Guest guest Posted November 17, 2006 Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 Sridhar ji, I am relieved to hear that my post was useful for you. I have not read the discussion about the inner and outer planets but when I wrote what I wrote originally, the cw vs ccw counting of aspects (the original question) made sense only in the case of outer planets. Assuming that we are discussing only the full and special aspects. The inner planets have a different twist in terms of their actual motion vis a vis the zodiac, depending on whether they are in the inferior or superior part of their orbit (between sun and earth or on the other side of sun) but since they (mercury and venus) only have the full seventh drishti, it would not matter whether you counted clockwise or counterclockwise :-) Hence I did not talk about that ;-) Makes sense? RR vedic astrology, "ashwin_062k" <ashwin_062k wrote: > > Dear Sir > > Absolutely useful and thanks once again for your support. > > As we are in this subject, I read one response on the same subject > in another group. This was a discussion between two other leanered > members on that group. From their postings, I came to understand > that all inner planets have one aspect and the outer planets has > multiple aspects. > > I have posted in that group a query to enlighten me the reason for > this. > > I also take advantage of this posting and request the leanered > members of this group to share your knowledge in this regard. > > Regards > Sridhar > > vedic astrology, "Rohiniranjan" > <rohini_ranjan@> wrote: > > > > Dear Sridhar ji, > > > > No need to apologize for using the SI chart! It is as respected > and > > valid a chart as the square NI one or the round EI one and so on. > And > > it was clear from your description which one you were using. > > > > Hopefully my answer about retrograde drishti was useful to you. > > > > RR > > > > > > vedic astrology, "ashwin_062k" > > <ashwin_062k@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sir > > > > > > yes, I saw your response and all other members of this group > too. > > > Thanks for guiding me. > > > > > > I had gone through the responses by all members in this group > and > > > other groups too. > > > > > > When I posted this query, I should have mentioned clearly that I > > > follow the "South Indian" style of chart. Please accept my > sincere > > > apology. > > > > > > Regards > > > Sridhar > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Rohiniranjan" > > > <rohini_ranjan@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Sridhar, > > > > > > > > If you go to Jyotish_remedies, where you posted the identical > > > > question, you will find my answer there. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Ranjan > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "ashwin_062k" > > > > <ashwin_062k@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Gurujans > > > > > > > > > > I would appreciate if you could clarify my doubt on the > > > following: > > > > > > > > > > When we determine the aspects of planets in a direct motion > we > > > > count > > > > > the houses in a clockwise direction (except for rahu and > ketu > > > who > > > > > moves in retrograde motion always). Correct me if I am > wrong. > > > > > > > > > > If we have a planet which is retrograde in the birth chart, > do > > > we > > > > > still calculate the Aspects for that planet in a clockwise > > > > direction? > > > > > or we have to consider the direction of the planet's motion. > > > > > > > > > > Please pardon me, if this is a silly question. > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Sridhar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2006 Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 Sheenu, Shri Rohini Ranjan has been in Jyotish for forty years. He had been writing in the Astrological Magazine even perhaps before you were born. You can read his articles all over the internet too. I would suggest that you apologise for your outburst. The Rahu/ Ketu drishti issue is one of the several issues over which Jyotish has reached no consensus over several decades. It is a discussion on a different plane of Jyotish. The classical texts rarely support Rahu drishti. Read more and then talk on such issues. Rishi , "sheenutiwari" <sheenutiwari wrote: > > Rohini, > > > You do not consider Rahu and Ketu capable of causing Dhristi ? > Are you astrologer or what ? > What are you doing on this forum ? > What is your existence as newcomer learner in this Forum of astrology > or expert ? > Why dont you read some basic books on astrology before making such > comments. > Sheenu . > > > > > > > , "Rohiniranjan" > <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > Dear Sridhar ji, > > > > No question is ever silly, though many answers often are, or at > least > > can be! <not on this august forum, of course - ever ever!> > > > > Since no planet really is moving backwards but merely observed by > our > > earth-based orientation to appear to be moving backwards -- planets > > only go forwards, and therefore their drishti, their glance, their > > vision is always forward, counted counterclockwise in a north > indian > > diamond horoscope chart. In the south indian chart, which you were > > presumably referring to, the drishti would be counted clockwise > since > > the signs are placed in that order, as if someone is viewing the > sky > > from south of the ecliptic (hence the order is cw). > > > > Rahu and ketu are mathematical points, which in their true motion > can > > move forwards and backwards, although their mean motion is always > > backwards. I do not consider them capable of casting drishti so > would > > not comment on it. > > > > Some individuals report a special influence for retrograde planets > in > > the 12th from where they are located. This is not drishti and this > > does not mean that the retrograde planet shifts back one house. > This > > is described in one of the nadis. Not everyone accepts that to be > the > > case. > > > > Written just as a forum member since I am not a gurujan. > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > , "ashwin_062k" > > <ashwin_062k@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Gurujans > > > > > > I would appreciate if you could clarify my doubt on the following: > > > > > > When we determine the aspects of planets in a direct motion we > > count > > > the houses in a clockwise direction (except for rahu and ketu who > > > moves in retrograde motion always). Correct me if I am wrong. > > > > > > If we have a planet which is retrograde in the birth chart, do we > > > still calculate the Aspects for that planet in a clockwise > > direction? > > > or we have to consider the direction of the planet's motion. > > > > > > Please pardon me, if this is a silly question. > > > > > > Regards > > > Sridhar > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2006 Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 She/He/IT was attacking his/her image of this Rohini person, Rishi! Now you have really confused him/her/it! :-) But only through confusion and questions do we decide to pursue further! My first question in life was: Bhool chook leni deni! Why did my parents ask for forgiveness before they even commited the MISTAKE? ANYONE WILLING AND ABLE TO EXPLAIN THAT -- WILLING TO STEP FORWARD ON JYOTISH_REMEDIES FORUM AND ENLIGHTEN AND EDUCATE ME AND OTHERS? With some examples? <psst! astrological?? the jyotish kind???> If I am being too 'funny' -- know this folks! The least I ever understood intellectually in my life was from my one and only encounter with my dadu (maternal grandfather) once in my life after he was ousted from his lifetime in East Bengal and then East Pakistan before it became -- Bangaladesh! Pronaaams Dadu -- I finally get it (!) really all of it -- now! As YOU can SEE!! Thanks for being there in all five thousands of your fragments! Maybe more? RR , "rishi_2000in<rishi_2000in wrote: > > Sheenu, > Shri Rohini Ranjan has been in Jyotish for forty years. He had been > writing in the Astrological Magazine even perhaps before you were > born. You can read his articles all over the internet too. > I would suggest that you apologise for your outburst. > The Rahu/ Ketu drishti issue is one of the several issues over which > Jyotish has reached no consensus over several decades. It is a > discussion on a different plane of Jyotish. The classical texts > rarely support Rahu drishti. > Read more and then talk on such issues. > Rishi > > > , "sheenutiwari" > <sheenutiwari@> wrote: > > > > Rohini, > > > > > > You do not consider Rahu and Ketu capable of causing Dhristi ? > > Are you astrologer or what ? > > What are you doing on this forum ? > > What is your existence as newcomer learner in this Forum of > astrology > > or expert ? > > Why dont you read some basic books on astrology before making such > > comments. > > Sheenu . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Rohiniranjan" > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sridhar ji, > > > > > > No question is ever silly, though many answers often are, or at > > least > > > can be! <not on this august forum, of course - ever ever!> > > > > > > Since no planet really is moving backwards but merely observed by > > our > > > earth-based orientation to appear to be moving backwards -- > planets > > > only go forwards, and therefore their drishti, their glance, > their > > > vision is always forward, counted counterclockwise in a north > > indian > > > diamond horoscope chart. In the south indian chart, which you > were > > > presumably referring to, the drishti would be counted clockwise > > since > > > the signs are placed in that order, as if someone is viewing the > > sky > > > from south of the ecliptic (hence the order is cw). > > > > > > Rahu and ketu are mathematical points, which in their true motion > > can > > > move forwards and backwards, although their mean motion is always > > > backwards. I do not consider them capable of casting drishti so > > would > > > not comment on it. > > > > > > Some individuals report a special influence for retrograde > planets > > in > > > the 12th from where they are located. This is not drishti and > this > > > does not mean that the retrograde planet shifts back one house. > > This > > > is described in one of the nadis. Not everyone accepts that to be > > the > > > case. > > > > > > Written just as a forum member since I am not a gurujan. > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "ashwin_062k" > > > <ashwin_062k@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Gurujans > > > > > > > > I would appreciate if you could clarify my doubt on the > following: > > > > > > > > When we determine the aspects of planets in a direct motion we > > > count > > > > the houses in a clockwise direction (except for rahu and ketu > who > > > > moves in retrograde motion always). Correct me if I am wrong. > > > > > > > > If we have a planet which is retrograde in the birth chart, do > we > > > > still calculate the Aspects for that planet in a clockwise > > > direction? > > > > or we have to consider the direction of the planet's motion. > > > > > > > > Please pardon me, if this is a silly question. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Sridhar > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2006 Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 Dear Rishi, Would it be possible to list articles written by Mr. Rohini in AM as well as the web link through which the list members could access his writeups and get benefitted by his wisdom. Thanks Vijay Kumar - rishi_2000in Friday, November 17, 2006 7:54 AM Re: Aspect of Retrograde Planet Sheenu, Shri Rohini Ranjan has been in Jyotish for forty years. He had been writing in the Astrological Magazine even perhaps before you were born. You can read his articles all over the internet too. I would suggest that you apologise for your outburst. The Rahu/ Ketu drishti issue is one of the several issues over which Jyotish has reached no consensus over several decades. It is a discussion on a different plane of Jyotish. The classical texts rarely support Rahu drishti. Read more and then talk on such issues. Rishi , "sheenutiwari" <sheenutiwari wrote: > > Rohini, > > > You do not consider Rahu and Ketu capable of causing Dhristi ? > Are you astrologer or what ? > What are you doing on this forum ? > What is your existence as newcomer learner in this Forum of astrology > or expert ? > Why dont you read some basic books on astrology before making such > comments. > Sheenu . > > > > > > > , "Rohiniranjan" > <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > Dear Sridhar ji, > > > > No question is ever silly, though many answers often are, or at > least > > can be! <not on this august forum, of course - ever ever!> > > > > Since no planet really is moving backwards but merely observed by > our > > earth-based orientation to appear to be moving backwards -- planets > > only go forwards, and therefore their drishti, their glance, their > > vision is always forward, counted counterclockwise in a north > indian > > diamond horoscope chart. In the south indian chart, which you were > > presumably referring to, the drishti would be counted clockwise > since > > the signs are placed in that order, as if someone is viewing the > sky > > from south of the ecliptic (hence the order is cw). > > > > Rahu and ketu are mathematical points, which in their true motion > can > > move forwards and backwards, although their mean motion is always > > backwards. I do not consider them capable of casting drishti so > would > > not comment on it. > > > > Some individuals report a special influence for retrograde planets > in > > the 12th from where they are located. This is not drishti and this > > does not mean that the retrograde planet shifts back one house. > This > > is described in one of the nadis. Not everyone accepts that to be > the > > case. > > > > Written just as a forum member since I am not a gurujan. > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > , "ashwin_062k" > > <ashwin_062k@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Gurujans > > > > > > I would appreciate if you could clarify my doubt on the following: > > > > > > When we determine the aspects of planets in a direct motion we > > count > > > the houses in a clockwise direction (except for rahu and ketu who > > > moves in retrograde motion always). Correct me if I am wrong. > > > > > > If we have a planet which is retrograde in the birth chart, do we > > > still calculate the Aspects for that planet in a clockwise > > direction? > > > or we have to consider the direction of the planet's motion. > > > > > > Please pardon me, if this is a silly question. > > > > > > Regards > > > Sridhar > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2006 Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 do a google search and u lll loads of it Vijay Kumar <v_kumar (AT) cdotb (DOT) ernet.in> wrote: Dear Rishi, Would it be possible to list articles written by Mr. Rohini in AM as well as the web link through which the list members could access his writeups and get benefitted by his wisdom. Thanks Vijay Kumar - rishi_2000in Friday, November 17, 2006 7:54 AM Re: Aspect of Retrograde Planet Sheenu, Shri Rohini Ranjan has been in Jyotish for forty years. He had been writing in the Astrological Magazine even perhaps before you were born. You can read his articles all over the internet too. I would suggest that you apologise for your outburst. The Rahu/ Ketu drishti issue is one of the several issues over which Jyotish has reached no consensus over several decades. It is a discussion on a different plane of Jyotish. The classical texts rarely support Rahu drishti. Read more and then talk on such issues. Rishi , "sheenutiwari" <sheenutiwari wrote: > > Rohini, > > > You do not consider Rahu and Ketu capable of causing Dhristi ? > Are you astrologer or what ? > What are you doing on this forum ? > What is your existence as newcomer learner in this Forum of astrology > or expert ? > Why dont you read some basic books on astrology before making such > comments. > Sheenu . > > > > > > > , "Rohiniranjan" > <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > Dear Sridhar ji, > > > > No question is ever silly, though many answers often are, or at > least > > can be! <not on this august forum, of course - ever ever!> > > > > Since no planet really is moving backwards but merely observed by > our > > earth-based orientation to appear to be moving backwards -- planets > > only go forwards, and therefore their drishti, their glance, their > > vision is always forward, counted counterclockwise in a north > indian > > diamond horoscope chart. In the south indian chart, which you were > > presumably referring to, the drishti would be counted clockwise > since > > the signs are placed in that order, as if someone is viewing the > sky > > from south of the ecliptic (hence the order is cw). > > > > Rahu and ketu are mathematical points, which in their true motion > can > > move forwards and backwards, although their mean motion is always > > backwards. I do not consider them capable of casting drishti so > would > > not comment on it. > > > > Some individuals report a special influence for retrograde planets > in > > the 12th from where they are located. This is not drishti and this > > does not mean that the retrograde planet shifts back one house. > This > > is described in one of the nadis. Not everyone accepts that to be > the > > case. > > > > Written just as a forum member since I am not a gurujan. > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > , "ashwin_062k" > > <ashwin_062k@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Gurujans > > > > > > I would appreciate if you could clarify my doubt on the following: > > > > > > When we determine the aspects of planets in a direct motion we > > count > > > the houses in a clockwise direction (except for rahu and ketu who > > > moves in retrograde motion always). Correct me if I am wrong. > > > > > > If we have a planet which is retrograde in the birth chart, do we > > > still calculate the Aspects for that planet in a clockwise > > direction? > > > or we have to consider the direction of the planet's motion. > > > > > > Please pardon me, if this is a silly question. > > > > > > Regards > > > Sridhar > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2006 Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 Dear V_Kumar, Rather than hasseling Rishiji who has better things to do that to do citation searches for the likes of you, I am sure, have you tried something as simple as clicking on www.google.com and typing rohiniranjan and see what you come up with? :-) As far as A.M. is concerned you must really ask them (they have a website), that is if you are really interested in reading what rohiniji wrote! <posted on behalf of RD> , "Vijay Kumar" <v_kumar wrote: > > Dear Rishi, > > Would it be possible to list articles written by Mr. Rohini in AM as well as the web link through which the list members could access his writeups and get benefitted by his wisdom. > > Thanks > > Vijay Kumar > > - > rishi_2000in > > Friday, November 17, 2006 7:54 AM > Re: Aspect of Retrograde Planet > > > Sheenu, > Shri Rohini Ranjan has been in Jyotish for forty years. He had been > writing in the Astrological Magazine even perhaps before you were > born. You can read his articles all over the internet too. > I would suggest that you apologise for your outburst. > The Rahu/ Ketu drishti issue is one of the several issues over which > Jyotish has reached no consensus over several decades. It is a > discussion on a different plane of Jyotish. The classical texts > rarely support Rahu drishti. > Read more and then talk on such issues. > Rishi > > , "sheenutiwari" > <sheenutiwari@> wrote: > > > > Rohini, > > > > > > You do not consider Rahu and Ketu capable of causing Dhristi ? > > Are you astrologer or what ? > > What are you doing on this forum ? > > What is your existence as newcomer learner in this Forum of > astrology > > or expert ? > > Why dont you read some basic books on astrology before making such > > comments. > > Sheenu . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Rohiniranjan" > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sridhar ji, > > > > > > No question is ever silly, though many answers often are, or at > > least > > > can be! <not on this august forum, of course - ever ever!> > > > > > > Since no planet really is moving backwards but merely observed by > > our > > > earth-based orientation to appear to be moving backwards -- > planets > > > only go forwards, and therefore their drishti, their glance, > their > > > vision is always forward, counted counterclockwise in a north > > indian > > > diamond horoscope chart. In the south indian chart, which you > were > > > presumably referring to, the drishti would be counted clockwise > > since > > > the signs are placed in that order, as if someone is viewing the > > sky > > > from south of the ecliptic (hence the order is cw). > > > > > > Rahu and ketu are mathematical points, which in their true motion > > can > > > move forwards and backwards, although their mean motion is always > > > backwards. I do not consider them capable of casting drishti so > > would > > > not comment on it. > > > > > > Some individuals report a special influence for retrograde > planets > > in > > > the 12th from where they are located. This is not drishti and > this > > > does not mean that the retrograde planet shifts back one house. > > This > > > is described in one of the nadis. Not everyone accepts that to be > > the > > > case. > > > > > > Written just as a forum member since I am not a gurujan. > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "ashwin_062k" > > > <ashwin_062k@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Gurujans > > > > > > > > I would appreciate if you could clarify my doubt on the > following: > > > > > > > > When we determine the aspects of planets in a direct motion we > > > count > > > > the houses in a clockwise direction (except for rahu and ketu > who > > > > moves in retrograde motion always). Correct me if I am wrong. > > > > > > > > If we have a planet which is retrograde in the birth chart, do > we > > > > still calculate the Aspects for that planet in a clockwise > > > direction? > > > > or we have to consider the direction of the planet's motion. > > > > > > > > Please pardon me, if this is a silly question. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Sridhar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2006 Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 Thanks Bobby but that could overload his/her neurites! Be gentle!! :-) , Bobby Mehrotra <bobbyusd wrote: > > do a google search and u lll loads of it > > Vijay Kumar <v_kumar wrote: Dear Rishi, > > Would it be possible to list articles written by Mr. Rohini in AM as well as the web link through which the list members could access his writeups and get benefitted by his wisdom. > > Thanks > > Vijay Kumar > > - > rishi_2000in > > Friday, November 17, 2006 7:54 AM > Re: Aspect of Retrograde Planet > > Sheenu, > Shri Rohini Ranjan has been in Jyotish for forty years. He had been > writing in the Astrological Magazine even perhaps before you were > born. You can read his articles all over the internet too. > I would suggest that you apologise for your outburst. > The Rahu/ Ketu drishti issue is one of the several issues over which > Jyotish has reached no consensus over several decades. It is a > discussion on a different plane of Jyotish. The classical texts > rarely support Rahu drishti. > Read more and then talk on such issues. > Rishi > > , "sheenutiwari" > <sheenutiwari@> wrote: > > > > Rohini, > > > > > > You do not consider Rahu and Ketu capable of causing Dhristi ? > > Are you astrologer or what ? > > What are you doing on this forum ? > > What is your existence as newcomer learner in this Forum of > astrology > > or expert ? > > Why dont you read some basic books on astrology before making such > > comments. > > Sheenu . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Rohiniranjan" > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sridhar ji, > > > > > > No question is ever silly, though many answers often are, or at > > least > > > can be! <not on this august forum, of course - ever ever!> > > > > > > Since no planet really is moving backwards but merely observed by > > our > > > earth-based orientation to appear to be moving backwards -- > planets > > > only go forwards, and therefore their drishti, their glance, > their > > > vision is always forward, counted counterclockwise in a north > > indian > > > diamond horoscope chart. In the south indian chart, which you > were > > > presumably referring to, the drishti would be counted clockwise > > since > > > the signs are placed in that order, as if someone is viewing the > > sky > > > from south of the ecliptic (hence the order is cw). > > > > > > Rahu and ketu are mathematical points, which in their true motion > > can > > > move forwards and backwards, although their mean motion is always > > > backwards. I do not consider them capable of casting drishti so > > would > > > not comment on it. > > > > > > Some individuals report a special influence for retrograde > planets > > in > > > the 12th from where they are located. This is not drishti and > this > > > does not mean that the retrograde planet shifts back one house. > > This > > > is described in one of the nadis. Not everyone accepts that to be > > the > > > case. > > > > > > Written just as a forum member since I am not a gurujan. > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "ashwin_062k" > > > <ashwin_062k@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Gurujans > > > > > > > > I would appreciate if you could clarify my doubt on the > following: > > > > > > > > When we determine the aspects of planets in a direct motion we > > > count > > > > the houses in a clockwise direction (except for rahu and ketu > who > > > > moves in retrograde motion always). Correct me if I am wrong. > > > > > > > > If we have a planet which is retrograde in the birth chart, do > we > > > > still calculate the Aspects for that planet in a clockwise > > > direction? > > > > or we have to consider the direction of the planet's motion. > > > > > > > > Please pardon me, if this is a silly question. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Sridhar > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2006 Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 Dear sir, Though, AM has a website, but they need at least the years in which publications are made. If possible, indicate the years in which the Rohini's publications were made in AM. Since, I too have AM archives from 1978, if years are known I may go through the articles myself. If not posible, pl leave at this point itself. I will search through google mail parallely. Thanks for your concern. Vijay Kumar - Rohiniranjan Friday, November 17, 2006 11:16 AM Re: Aspect of Retrograde Planet Dear V_Kumar, Rather than hasseling Rishiji who has better things to do that to do citation searches for the likes of you, I am sure, have you tried something as simple as clicking on www.google.com and typing rohiniranjan and see what you come up with? :-) As far as A.M. is concerned you must really ask them (they have a website), that is if you are really interested in reading what rohiniji wrote! <posted on behalf of RD> , "Vijay Kumar" <v_kumar wrote: > > Dear Rishi, > > Would it be possible to list articles written by Mr. Rohini in AM as well as the web link through which the list members could access his writeups and get benefitted by his wisdom. > > Thanks > > Vijay Kumar > > - > rishi_2000in > > Friday, November 17, 2006 7:54 AM > Re: Aspect of Retrograde Planet > > > Sheenu, > Shri Rohini Ranjan has been in Jyotish for forty years. He had been > writing in the Astrological Magazine even perhaps before you were > born. You can read his articles all over the internet too. > I would suggest that you apologise for your outburst. > The Rahu/ Ketu drishti issue is one of the several issues over which > Jyotish has reached no consensus over several decades. It is a > discussion on a different plane of Jyotish. The classical texts > rarely support Rahu drishti. > Read more and then talk on such issues. > Rishi > > , "sheenutiwari" > <sheenutiwari@> wrote: > > > > Rohini, > > > > > > You do not consider Rahu and Ketu capable of causing Dhristi ? > > Are you astrologer or what ? > > What are you doing on this forum ? > > What is your existence as newcomer learner in this Forum of > astrology > > or expert ? > > Why dont you read some basic books on astrology before making such > > comments. > > Sheenu . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Rohiniranjan" > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sridhar ji, > > > > > > No question is ever silly, though many answers often are, or at > > least > > > can be! <not on this august forum, of course - ever ever!> > > > > > > Since no planet really is moving backwards but merely observed by > > our > > > earth-based orientation to appear to be moving backwards -- > planets > > > only go forwards, and therefore their drishti, their glance, > their > > > vision is always forward, counted counterclockwise in a north > > indian > > > diamond horoscope chart. In the south indian chart, which you > were > > > presumably referring to, the drishti would be counted clockwise > > since > > > the signs are placed in that order, as if someone is viewing the > > sky > > > from south of the ecliptic (hence the order is cw). > > > > > > Rahu and ketu are mathematical points, which in their true motion > > can > > > move forwards and backwards, although their mean motion is always > > > backwards. I do not consider them capable of casting drishti so > > would > > > not comment on it. > > > > > > Some individuals report a special influence for retrograde > planets > > in > > > the 12th from where they are located. This is not drishti and > this > > > does not mean that the retrograde planet shifts back one house. > > This > > > is described in one of the nadis. Not everyone accepts that to be > > the > > > case. > > > > > > Written just as a forum member since I am not a gurujan. > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "ashwin_062k" > > > <ashwin_062k@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Gurujans > > > > > > > > I would appreciate if you could clarify my doubt on the > following: > > > > > > > > When we determine the aspects of planets in a direct motion we > > > count > > > > the houses in a clockwise direction (except for rahu and ketu > who > > > > moves in retrograde motion always). Correct me if I am wrong. > > > > > > > > If we have a planet which is retrograde in the birth chart, do > we > > > > still calculate the Aspects for that planet in a clockwise > > > direction? > > > > or we have to consider the direction of the planet's motion. > > > > > > > > Please pardon me, if this is a silly question. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Sridhar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2006 Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 Rohini ji, Would you be able to advise me as well. I have posted my details on the forum. I am worried about my own house. I live in a rented place. Regards, G.Keshav Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: Thanks Bobby but that could overload his/her neurites! Be gentle!! :-) , Bobby Mehrotra <bobbyusd wrote: > > do a google search and u lll loads of it > > Vijay Kumar <v_kumar wrote: Dear Rishi, > > Would it be possible to list articles written by Mr. Rohini in AM as well as the web link through which the list members could access his writeups and get benefitted by his wisdom. > > Thanks > > Vijay Kumar > > - > rishi_2000in > > Friday, November 17, 2006 7:54 AM > Re: Aspect of Retrograde Planet > > Sheenu, > Shri Rohini Ranjan has been in Jyotish for forty years. He had been > writing in the Astrological Magazine even perhaps before you were > born. You can read his articles all over the internet too. > I would suggest that you apologise for your outburst. > The Rahu/ Ketu drishti issue is one of the several issues over which > Jyotish has reached no consensus over several decades. It is a > discussion on a different plane of Jyotish. The classical texts > rarely support Rahu drishti. > Read more and then talk on such issues. > Rishi > > , "sheenutiwari" > <sheenutiwari@> wrote: > > > > Rohini, > > > > > > You do not consider Rahu and Ketu capable of causing Dhristi ? > > Are you astrologer or what ? > > What are you doing on this forum ? > > What is your existence as newcomer learner in this Forum of > astrology > > or expert ? > > Why dont you read some basic books on astrology before making such > > comments. > > Sheenu . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Rohiniranjan" > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sridhar ji, > > > > > > No question is ever silly, though many answers often are, or at > > least > > > can be! <not on this august forum, of course - ever ever!> > > > > > > Since no planet really is moving backwards but merely observed by > > our > > > earth-based orientation to appear to be moving backwards -- > planets > > > only go forwards, and therefore their drishti, their glance, > their > > > vision is always forward, counted counterclockwise in a north > > indian > > > diamond horoscope chart. In the south indian chart, which you > were > > > presumably referring to, the drishti would be counted clockwise > > since > > > the signs are placed in that order, as if someone is viewing the > > sky > > > from south of the ecliptic (hence the order is cw). > > > > > > Rahu and ketu are mathematical points, which in their true motion > > can > > > move forwards and backwards, although their mean motion is always > > > backwards. I do not consider them capable of casting drishti so > > would > > > not comment on it. > > > > > > Some individuals report a special influence for retrograde > planets > > in > > > the 12th from where they are located. This is not drishti and > this > > > does not mean that the retrograde planet shifts back one house. > > This > > > is described in one of the nadis. Not everyone accepts that to be > > the > > > case. > > > > > > Written just as a forum member since I am not a gurujan. > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "ashwin_062k" > > > <ashwin_062k@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Gurujans > > > > > > > > I would appreciate if you could clarify my doubt on the > following: > > > > > > > > When we determine the aspects of planets in a direct motion we > > > count > > > > the houses in a clockwise direction (except for rahu and ketu > who > > > > moves in retrograde motion always). Correct me if I am wrong. > > > > > > > > If we have a planet which is retrograde in the birth chart, do > we > > > > still calculate the Aspects for that planet in a clockwise > > > direction? > > > > or we have to consider the direction of the planet's motion. > > > > > > > > Please pardon me, if this is a silly question. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Sridhar > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2006 Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 Dear Vijayji, This is a small writeup on Rohini Ranjanji. Go to the link and u'll find some articles written by him. Regards Bobby "Rohini Ranjan is a jyotishi writer with many years of experience. His learning began in India and still continues, for Jyotish is such a vast ocean.. There is always so much more to learn. Since early eighties, Rohini Ranjan has been very interested in telecommunication and in exploring the cyberspace as a progressive and efficient medium for teaching, learning and discussing Jyotish. Rohini Ranjan has served as Section Leader on Astrological Fora on CompuServe and GEnie and continues to remain an active contributor to astrology and Jyotish newsgroups and mailing lists. His astrology-related articles have appeared, since 1979, in The Astrological Magazine, Ascendant, Aspects, Rising Star, Times of Astrology, Express Starteller Magazine, S.H.A.P.E., Sagittarius rising and in cybermagazines such as those on Boloji, Astroexpert.com, Widget.com, Fraser Valley Guild, etc. Despite his fairly busy schedule, as a personal karmic mandate, from time to time he strives to provide free readings and astrological advice to a large number of people who request the same. Selected as Poet of the Week on January 29, 2006. Rohini Ranjan offers mentorship to carefully selected students, through Crystal Pages – an organization dedicated to serving Jyotish through readings, teaching and research activities. The Crystal Pages sites for information and readings include: Readings crystal_pages/ Discussions jyotish-vani/ Articles & Information http://www.geocities.com/clarity2020/ Email: clarity2020 Vijay Kumar <v_kumar (AT) cdotb (DOT) ernet.in> wrote: Dear sir, Though, AM has a website, but they need at least the years in which publications are made. If possible, indicate the years in which the Rohini's publications were made in AM. Since, I too have AM archives from 1978, if years are known I may go through the articles myself. If not posible, pl leave at this point itself. I will search through google mail parallely. Thanks for your concern. Vijay Kumar - Rohiniranjan Friday, November 17, 2006 11:16 AM Re: Aspect of Retrograde Planet Dear V_Kumar, Rather than hasseling Rishiji who has better things to do that to do citation searches for the likes of you, I am sure, have you tried something as simple as clicking on www.google.com and typing rohiniranjan and see what you come up with? :-) As far as A.M. is concerned you must really ask them (they have a website), that is if you are really interested in reading what rohiniji wrote! <posted on behalf of RD> , "Vijay Kumar" <v_kumar wrote: > > Dear Rishi, > > Would it be possible to list articles written by Mr. Rohini in AM as well as the web link through which the list members could access his writeups and get benefitted by his wisdom. > > Thanks > > Vijay Kumar > > - > rishi_2000in > > Friday, November 17, 2006 7:54 AM > Re: Aspect of Retrograde Planet > > > Sheenu, > Shri Rohini Ranjan has been in Jyotish for forty years. He had been > writing in the Astrological Magazine even perhaps before you were > born. You can read his articles all over the internet too. > I would suggest that you apologise for your outburst. > The Rahu/ Ketu drishti issue is one of the several issues over which > Jyotish has reached no consensus over several decades. It is a > discussion on a different plane of Jyotish. The classical texts > rarely support Rahu drishti. > Read more and then talk on such issues. > Rishi > > , "sheenutiwari" > <sheenutiwari@> wrote: > > > > Rohini, > > > > > > You do not consider Rahu and Ketu capable of causing Dhristi ? > > Are you astrologer or what ? > > What are you doing on this forum ? > > What is your existence as newcomer learner in this Forum of > astrology > > or expert ? > > Why dont you read some basic books on astrology before making such > > comments. > > Sheenu . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Rohiniranjan" > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sridhar ji, > > > > > > No question is ever silly, though many answers often are, or at > > least > > > can be! <not on this august forum, of course - ever ever!> > > > > > > Since no planet really is moving backwards but merely observed by > > our > > > earth-based orientation to appear to be moving backwards -- > planets > > > only go forwards, and therefore their drishti, their glance, > their > > > vision is always forward, counted counterclockwise in a north > > indian > > > diamond horoscope chart. In the south indian chart, which you > were > > > presumably referring to, the drishti would be counted clockwise > > since > > > the signs are placed in that order, as if someone is viewing the > > sky > > > from south of the ecliptic (hence the order is cw). > > > > > > Rahu and ketu are mathematical points, which in their true motion > > can > > > move forwards and backwards, although their mean motion is always > > > backwards. I do not consider them capable of casting drishti so > > would > > > not comment on it. > > > > > > Some individuals report a special influence for retrograde > planets > > in > > > the 12th from where they are located. This is not drishti and > this > > > does not mean that the retrograde planet shifts back one house. > > This > > > is described in one of the nadis. Not everyone accepts that to be > > the > > > case. > > > > > > Written just as a forum member since I am not a gurujan. > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "ashwin_062k" > > > <ashwin_062k@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Gurujans > > > > > > > > I would appreciate if you could clarify my doubt on the > following: > > > > > > > > When we determine the aspects of planets in a direct motion we > > > count > > > > the houses in a clockwise direction (except for rahu and ketu > who > > > > moves in retrograde motion always). Correct me if I am wrong. > > > > > > > > If we have a planet which is retrograde in the birth chart, do > we > > > > still calculate the Aspects for that planet in a clockwise > > > direction? > > > > or we have to consider the direction of the planet's motion. > > > > > > > > Please pardon me, if this is a silly question. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Sridhar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2006 Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 Look for issues around 79 and 80. One of the article would be about moon, the karaka for mind, another on a bala subsystem that I proposed. Also couple of good hits in astrological miscellany, etc RR , "Vijay Kumar" <v_kumar wrote: > > Dear sir, > > Though, AM has a website, but they need at least the years in which publications are made. If possible, indicate the years in which the Rohini's publications were made in AM. Since, I too have AM archives from 1978, if years are known I may go through the articles myself. > > If not posible, pl leave at this point itself. > > I will search through google mail parallely. > > Thanks for your concern. > > Vijay Kumar > > - > Rohiniranjan > > Friday, November 17, 2006 11:16 AM > Re: Aspect of Retrograde Planet > > > Dear V_Kumar, > > Rather than hasseling Rishiji who has better things to do that to do > citation searches for the likes of you, I am sure, have you tried > something as simple as clicking on www.google.com and typing > rohiniranjan > and see what you come up with? :-) > > As far as A.M. is concerned you must really ask them (they have a > website), that is if you are really interested in reading what > rohiniji wrote! > > <posted on behalf of RD> > > , "Vijay Kumar" <v_kumar@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Rishi, > > > > Would it be possible to list articles written by Mr. Rohini in AM > as well as the web link through which the list members could access > his writeups and get benefitted by his wisdom. > > > > Thanks > > > > Vijay Kumar > > > > - > > rishi_2000in > > > > Friday, November 17, 2006 7:54 AM > > Re: Aspect of Retrograde Planet > > > > > > Sheenu, > > Shri Rohini Ranjan has been in Jyotish for forty years. He had > been > > writing in the Astrological Magazine even perhaps before you were > > born. You can read his articles all over the internet too. > > I would suggest that you apologise for your outburst. > > The Rahu/ Ketu drishti issue is one of the several issues over > which > > Jyotish has reached no consensus over several decades. It is a > > discussion on a different plane of Jyotish. The classical texts > > rarely support Rahu drishti. > > Read more and then talk on such issues. > > Rishi > > > > , "sheenutiwari" > > <sheenutiwari@> wrote: > > > > > > Rohini, > > > > > > > > > You do not consider Rahu and Ketu capable of causing Dhristi ? > > > Are you astrologer or what ? > > > What are you doing on this forum ? > > > What is your existence as newcomer learner in this Forum of > > astrology > > > or expert ? > > > Why dont you read some basic books on astrology before making > such > > > comments. > > > Sheenu . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Rohiniranjan" > > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sridhar ji, > > > > > > > > No question is ever silly, though many answers often are, or > at > > > least > > > > can be! <not on this august forum, of course - ever ever!> > > > > > > > > Since no planet really is moving backwards but merely > observed by > > > our > > > > earth-based orientation to appear to be moving backwards -- > > planets > > > > only go forwards, and therefore their drishti, their glance, > > their > > > > vision is always forward, counted counterclockwise in a north > > > indian > > > > diamond horoscope chart. In the south indian chart, which you > > were > > > > presumably referring to, the drishti would be counted > clockwise > > > since > > > > the signs are placed in that order, as if someone is viewing > the > > > sky > > > > from south of the ecliptic (hence the order is cw). > > > > > > > > Rahu and ketu are mathematical points, which in their true > motion > > > can > > > > move forwards and backwards, although their mean motion is > always > > > > backwards. I do not consider them capable of casting drishti > so > > > would > > > > not comment on it. > > > > > > > > Some individuals report a special influence for retrograde > > planets > > > in > > > > the 12th from where they are located. This is not drishti and > > this > > > > does not mean that the retrograde planet shifts back one > house. > > > This > > > > is described in one of the nadis. Not everyone accepts that > to be > > > the > > > > case. > > > > > > > > Written just as a forum member since I am not a gurujan. > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "ashwin_062k" > > > > <ashwin_062k@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Gurujans > > > > > > > > > > I would appreciate if you could clarify my doubt on the > > following: > > > > > > > > > > When we determine the aspects of planets in a direct motion > we > > > > count > > > > > the houses in a clockwise direction (except for rahu and > ketu > > who > > > > > moves in retrograde motion always). Correct me if I am > wrong. > > > > > > > > > > If we have a planet which is retrograde in the birth chart, > do > > we > > > > > still calculate the Aspects for that planet in a clockwise > > > > direction? > > > > > or we have to consider the direction of the planet's motion. > > > > > > > > > > Please pardon me, if this is a silly question. > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Sridhar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2006 Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 Thanks for your kindness, Sh. Bobby. I would refere the details. Vijay kumar - Bobby Mehrotra Friday, November 17, 2006 2:04 PM Re: Re: Aspect of Retrograde Planet Dear Vijayji, This is a small writeup on Rohini Ranjanji. Go to the link and u'll find some articles written by him. Regards Bobby "Rohini Ranjan is a jyotishi writer with many years of experience. His learning began in India and still continues, for Jyotish is such a vast ocean. There is always so much more to learn. Since early eighties, Rohini Ranjan has been very interested in telecommunication and in exploring the cyberspace as a progressive and efficient medium for teaching, learning and discussing Jyotish. Rohini Ranjan has served as Section Leader on Astrological Fora on CompuServe and GEnie and continues to remain an active contributor to astrology and Jyotish newsgroups and mailing lists. His astrology-related articles have appeared, since 1979, in The Astrological Magazine, Ascendant, Aspects, Rising Star, Times of Astrology, Express Starteller Magazine, S.H.A.P.E., Sagittarius rising and in cybermagazines such as those on Boloji, Astroexpert.com, Widget.com, Fraser Valley Guild, etc. Despite his fairly busy schedule, as a personal karmic mandate, from time to time he strives to provide free readings and astrological advice to a large number of people who request the same. Selected as Poet of the Week on January 29, 2006. Rohini Ranjan offers mentorship to carefully selected students, through Crystal Pages - an organization dedicated to serving Jyotish through readings, teaching and research activities. The Crystal Pages sites for information and readings include: Readings crystal_pages/ Discussions jyotish-vani/ Articles & Information http://www.geocities.com/clarity2020/ Email: clarity2020 Vijay Kumar <v_kumar (AT) cdotb (DOT) ernet.in> wrote: Dear sir, Though, AM has a website, but they need at least the years in which publications are made. If possible, indicate the years in which the Rohini's publications were made in AM. Since, I too have AM archives from 1978, if years are known I may go through the articles myself. If not posible, pl leave at this point itself. I will search through google mail parallely. Thanks for your concern. Vijay Kumar - Rohiniranjan Friday, November 17, 2006 11:16 AM Re: Aspect of Retrograde Planet Dear V_Kumar, Rather than hasseling Rishiji who has better things to do that to do citation searches for the likes of you, I am sure, have you tried something as simple as clicking on www.google.com and typing rohiniranjan and see what you come up with? :-) As far as A.M. is concerned you must really ask them (they have a website), that is if you are really interested in reading what rohiniji wrote! <posted on behalf of RD> , "Vijay Kumar" <v_kumar wrote: > > Dear Rishi, > > Would it be possible to list articles written by Mr. Rohini in AM as well as the web link through which the list members could access his writeups and get benefitted by his wisdom. > > Thanks > > Vijay Kumar > > - > rishi_2000in > > Friday, November 17, 2006 7:54 AM > Re: Aspect of Retrograde Planet > > > Sheenu, > Shri Rohini Ranjan has been in Jyotish for forty years. He had been > writing in the Astrological Magazine even perhaps before you were > born. You can read his articles all over the internet too. > I would suggest that you apologise for your outburst. > The Rahu/ Ketu drishti issue is one of the several issues over which > Jyotish has reached no consensus over several decades. It is a > discussion on a different plane of Jyotish. The classical texts > rarely support Rahu drishti. > Read more and then talk on such issues. > Rishi > > , "sheenutiwari" > <sheenutiwari@> wrote: > > > > Rohini, > > > > > > You do not consider Rahu and Ketu capable of causing Dhristi ? > > Are you astrologer or what ? > > What are you doing on this forum ? > > What is your existence as newcomer learner in this Forum of > astrology > > or expert ? > > Why dont you read some basic books on astrology before making such > > comments. > > Sheenu . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Rohiniranjan" > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sridhar ji, > > > > > > No question is ever silly, though many answers often are, or at > > least > > > can be! <not on this august forum, of course - ever ever!> > > > > > > Since no planet really is moving backwards but merely observed by > > our > > > earth-based orientation to appear to be moving backwards -- > planets > > > only go forwards, and therefore their drishti, their glance, > their > > > vision is always forward, counted counterclockwise in a north > > indian > > > diamond horoscope chart. In the south indian chart, which you > were > > > presumably referring to, the drishti would be counted clockwise > > since > > > the signs are placed in that order, as if someone is viewing the > > sky > > > from south of the ecliptic (hence the order is cw). > > > > > > Rahu and ketu are mathematical points, which in their true motion > > can > > > move forwards and backwards, although their mean motion is always > > > backwards. I do not consider them capable of casting drishti so > > would > > > not comment on it. > > > > > > Some individuals report a special influence for retrograde > planets > > in > > > the 12th from where they are located. This is not drishti and > this > > > does not mean that the retrograde planet shifts back one house. > > This > > > is described in one of the nadis. Not everyone accepts that to be > > the > > > case. > > > > > > Written just as a forum member since I am not a gurujan. > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "ashwin_062k" > > > <ashwin_062k@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Gurujans > > > > > > > > I would appreciate if you could clarify my doubt on the > following: > > > > > > > > When we determine the aspects of planets in a direct motion we > > > count > > > > the houses in a clockwise direction (except for rahu and ketu > who > > > > moves in retrograde motion always). Correct me if I am wrong. > > > > > > > > If we have a planet which is retrograde in the birth chart, do > we > > > > still calculate the Aspects for that planet in a clockwise > > > direction? > > > > or we have to consider the direction of the planet's motion. > > > > > > > > Please pardon me, if this is a silly question. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Sridhar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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