-Dwisaptati Sama Dasa - Saurav ji

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|| Hare Rama Krsna ||

 

Dear Prafulla-ji,

 

Namaskar. Please find comments below.

 

Best wishes,

 

Sourav

 

================================================================

, Prafulla Gang <jyotish wrote:

>

> Namaskar Saurav ji,

>

> Many thanks.

>

> Fine! But rahu mahadasha (even for 12th AL) was good inspite of its

relationship with mars and positioning in Badhakasthana; and rahu

mahadasha (vimshotri) was also good. Does it not mean that, for leo

lagna - mars will not be harmful (sort of sarp dosha / curse gets

nullified??).

 

[sourav]: Mangal is very good graha being owner of 4th and 9th houses

and is a yogakaraka ! But Mangal is also Badhakesh to Simha Lagna also.

Hence Mangal will do both these functions. However, when a malefic is

sitting in the Badhaka rasi, focus goes there, rather than to the

badhakesha. You need to wear a yellow sapphire in gold in ring finger

due to Rahu and do the appropriate Badhaka remedies and Badhakesha is in

Nodal axis. Where is Sarpa dosha ? Curse is not nullified at all. Rahu

is in Simha amsa and Simha is your lagna. Hence Rahu is in lagnaamsa and

boosts 1st house significances. However, in Rahu (Vim.) dasa,

obstructions would have been there due to being Badhaka.

 

 

>

> Current sub period of budha is much better than earlier sub periods.

Yes, sort of changes are taking place (or say I am opting for major

structural changes - perhaps in line with your explanation of Daavaagni

Sashtyamsa ). Incidently during jupiter's sub period, guru will transit

in 11th from it- with favourable shani (PL lord) aspecting its lagna.

 

[sourav]: Notice that Shani is transiting Karka rasi and in Dasamsa

chart, Karka rasi holds Budha who is lord of the 8th house form Lagna

and also 8th from 4th house. Hence during this transit, Shani will

definitely give major changes in office and identity in career. In Rasi

the transit is over Guru who is lord of 8th house and also lord 5th (8th

from 10th) and this again indicates stresses in health and career

matters. The indications of Moola dasa graha Davaagni sashtyamsa

matches. Now see how various dasas co-incide on these. Each Dasa is like

a window in a house a tree outside is visible through these windows, but

through some window the visibility is best. That is how various dasas

work in harmony.

 

 

>

> Re jupiter there are lots of contradictory opinions /

experiences..first 8 years of dasha (Vimshotri) was phenomenally good

(coincides with rahu's dasha); second dasha was more around investments

/ creations..But, once guru is exalted and debilitated - is it not more

geared for VRY effects (unlike with strong planets in 6/8/12..).

 

[sourav]: Retrograde grahas in dusthanas are not good as they show

struggles in those areas. VRY is full if the graha is *weak*. Forget

about which rasi. When a graha is retrograde it is very strong ! Also

dont forget that your Guru is not only 8th lord but also lord of 5th

house, its moolatrikona. 5th house is lord of 8th from 10th. So Guru is

affecting health and also affecting career. It is giving virodhargala to

both these houses also. The rasi aspect of Lagna lord and 2nd/11th lord

causes it to make investments.

 

 

>

> Yes, i understand there are always multiplicity of factors, and many a

times - they override each other. I was rather amazed with the same

planets causing good results in Vimshotri..but becoming bit obsrructive

(or say less fulfilling) in Dwisaptati Sama Dasa.

 

[sourav]: Lets not blame the dasa-system. Rather, I should say that our

knowledge and intuitive guidence is not sufficiently strong.

 

 

>

> Should the changes in budha bhukti (operating even in moola dasha)

will be difficult to deal with, for next bhukti of guru - or other

overriding factors like (shani mahadasha / guru transit) etc..will be

able to draw the balance. Not to go back in circles, but major concern

looms - whether good Vimshotri will prevail over little obstructive

period.

 

[sourav]: Some struggle will continue across the Rahu bhukti (Vim.) or

Guru antar (Dwisaptati Sama). income may be unstable as Surya-Rahu yoga

in present in the Dasamsa chart. I expect positive changes after March

2008.

>

> regards / Prafulla Gang

>

> Since the general civilization of mankind, I believe there are more

instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people, by gradual and

silent encroachments of those in power, than by violent and sudden

usurpations.

>

>

> >

> > souravc108

> > Wed, 02 Aug 2006 23:41:03 -0000

> >

> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] a question on rahu(for visti)-

> >

> >

> > || Hare Rama Krsna ||

> >

> > Dear Prafulla-ji,

> >

> > Namaskar. Let me discuss based on

> > Dwisaptati Sama Dasa. You were running Rahu Maha dasa till 2002 and

> > reported great career and achievements. Note positions from

Pakalagna.

> > Rahu is co-lord of Pakalagna and 3rd from it (upachaya). In the

> > PakaLagna, 7th lord Surya is present with 5th and 8th lord Budha

giving

> > a Raja yoga with some troubles and also conjoins A5 (reputation).

Shani

> > is also co-lord of Pakalagna and is 2nd from it with exalted 9th

lord

> > and friend Shukra. So during Rahu dasa things went well overall.

With

> > advent of Surya Dasa and Surya antar, Budha exchanges antardasa with

> > Surya and gives career changes and challenges (note Budha owns 5th

house

> > which is 8th from 10th house and also 8th house from Pakalagna).

Chandra

> > is a malefic by Paksha and is involved in Vipareet Raja yoga with

> > drishti on its own house 6th from Pakalagna reference where Guru,

lord

> > of 2nd and 11th from Pakalagna, is exalted but retrograde giving

results

> > akin to debilitation. In Mangal antar, the Badhaka results will be

there

> > as well and Tula is badhaka-rasi from Kumbha Pakalagna. Surprisingly

(or

> > is it ?) during this same Mangal antar, Ketu Moola Dasa Rahu antar

dasa

> > had been operating when the Sadhu-shaapa fructified (Ketu is

aspected

> > conjoined by Mangal and aspected by Rahu; Ketu represents Sadhu's,

Nagas

> > etc). Note Mangal owns 10th house from Pakalagna. Ketu Moola dasa

will

> > involve challanges on many fronts as it is in Daavaagni Sashtyamsa

and

> > this Daavaagni represents forest fire which destroys the undergrowth

and

> > unnecessary garbage and opens the ground for fresh foliage

(symbology).

> > So this Sashtyamsa should bear this connotation. Hope to get better

> > results from Shukra antar (after March 2008) that is also fag end of

> > Ketu dasa signifying rejuvenation.

> >

> > I hope I managed to give enough hints.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > Sourav

> >

> > ================================================================

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , Prafulla Gang jyotish@ wrote:

> >>

> >> Namaskar Saurav ji

> >>

> >> Many thanks.

> >>

> >> Now in 2007 mid, shani dasha (Vimshotri) will commence (bhukti in

guru

> > mahadasha was good); and will coincide with sun mahadasha

(dwi-saptati

> > sama dasha started in 2002 - which was more around creation, less

> > success on commercial end) unti 2009 (with the bhuktis - mostly

having

> > 6/8 or 2/12 relations with dasha nath sun). Saturn is well poised

(3rd

> > from natal moon, 11th from AL, participating in VRY, conjuncting

with

> > exalted venus, its sub being of budha - 11th and 2nd lord) and if

sun

> > not that well poised; then which one will finally decide the outcome

> > from professional fulfillemnt perspective. (that question was always

> > huanting me)

> >>

> >> Professionally, things are always around desires and fulfillemnt of

> > ambitions. Guru mahadasha until 2002 gave all those accomplishments

to

> > highest extent, after then, diverted me to different field

(IT..where I

> > spent most time in acquiring, building and promoting products). On

the

> > domain (of desires / fulfillment), sun does not seem to be weak

either

> > from fundamentals perspective. So why this contrast? and will this

> > continue in remaining sub periods.

> >>

> >> regards / Prafulla Gang

> >>

> >> Since the general civilization of mankind, I believe there are more

> > instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people, by gradual

and

> > silent encroachments of those in power, than by violent and sudden

> > usurpations.

> >>

> >>

> >>>

> >>> souravc108@

> >>> Tue, 01 Aug 2006 21:36:35 -0000

> >>>

> >>> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] a question on rahu(for visti)-

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> || Hare Rama Krishna ||

> >>>

> >>> Dear Prafulla-ji,

> >>>

> >>> Namaskar. Please specifiy a couple of

> >>> questions about dasas /events. I would be happy to take the

> > exercise.

> >>> There are some special rules for Vimsottari dasa apart from the

> >>> philosphical perspective I just stated. These are slowly being

> > revealed

> >>> by Guru's. However, nakshatra dasas are similar in usage.

> >>>

> >>> Best wishes,

> >>>

> >>> Sourav

> >>>

> >>> =================================================================

> >>> , Prafulla Gang jyotish@ wrote:

> >>>>

> >>>> Dear Saurav ji

> >>>>

> >>>> In fact, this is exactly what I was trying to explore (though not

> > with

> >>> PL) and confused with .I have Dwisaptati Sama dasa applicable

(March

> > 8,

> >>> 1967 - 17.40 IST, 73E04 / 26N17 Jodhpur India), and could trace

most

> >>> events from Vimshotri Dasha. But, i could not trace the events.

Dasa

> > of

> >>> Sun (in dwisaptati sama dasha scheme ) - where fullfilment of

> > desires

> >>> had rather much more tougher challenges (yes with lots of

> > creativity)

> >>> esp in sun/moon/mars bhukti - Rather I must say, in relative terms

-

> > the

> >>> toughest challenges. Will the rules of interpreting conditional

dasa

> > be

> >>> the same as of Vimshotri dasha?

> >>>>

> >>>> regards / Prafulla Gang

> >>>>

> >>>> Lincoln studied by the light of a fireplace. Mozart composed by

> >>> candlelight. Galileo invented by oil lamp. Didn't they ever think

to

> > do

> >>> their work during the daytime?

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>> souravc108@

> >>>>> Tue, 01 Aug 2006 20:47:31 -0000

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] a question on rahu(for visti)-

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>> || Hare Rama Krishna ||

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Dear Prafulla-ji,

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Namaskar. It is not a question of

> >>>>> prevailing but question of what you want to see. Vimsottari is

> >>> givenby

> >>>>> Maharsi Parasara for all charts. If a conditional dasa is

> > applicable

> >>> and

> >>>>> if the dasa-karaka is not in dusthana from AK in Rasi chart,

then

> >>> the

> >>>>> conditional dasa will also reveal somethings. Conditional dasa

> >>> doesn't

> >>>>> mean that the dasa will always be applicable no matter what. It

> > has

> >>> to

> >>>>> do with conditions. For example, if Dwisaptati Sama is

applicable,

> >>> then

> >>>>> it has to do with desires and fulfillment of such desires (7th

> > house

> >>>>> involved). You can see it from Paka lagna reference. If it is

> >>>>> Chaturaseeti Sama Dasa, then events with career focus will be

> >>> explained

> >>>>> much better with this conditional dasa.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Best wishes,

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Sourav

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

=================================================================

> >>>>> , Prafulla Gang jyotish@

wrote:

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> Dear Saurav ji

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> If the conditional dasa is also applicable, then which one will

> >>>>> prevail - Vimshotri or the said conditional one.

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> Lincoln studied by the light of a fireplace. Mozart composed by

> >>>>> candlelight. Galileo invented by oil lamp. Didn't they ever

think

> > to

> >>> do

> >>>>> their work during the daytime?

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> souravc108@

> >>>>>>> Tue, 01 Aug 2006 20:01:42 -0000

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] a question on rahu(for visti)-

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> || Hare Rama Krsna ||

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Dear Sameer,

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Namaskar. This is from Parampara and is

> >>>>>>> discussed in Visti-ji's audio lectures. Its for Vimsottari

dasa

> >>>>> only.

> >>>>>>> Vimsottari Dasa works for all charts. If it were to be

> > applicable

> >>>>> for

> >>>>>>> conditional dasas, and if the antar dasa is different from

> >>>>> Vimsottari

> >>>>>>> antar then other arudhas will be activated and hence we will

> > have

> >>> no

> >>>>> use

> >>>>>>> of the rule.

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Best wishes,

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Sourav

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

===============================================================

> >>>>>>> , "sameer_sawhney"

ssawhney@

> >>>>>>> wrote:

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> Dear Sourav, Namaskaar

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> I have seen you using this one particular rule that arudhas

in

> >>> 2nd

> >>>>>>>> and trines to bhukti lord become prominent during that

period.

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> Is this applicable for conditional dasas like dwi-saptati too

?

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> Regards,

> >>>>>>>> Sameer

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> , "Sourav" souravc108@

> > wrote:

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> || Hare Rama Krsna ||

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> Dear Suchitra-ji,

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> Namaskar. Permit me to discuss the

> >>>>>>>> chart

> >>>>>>>>> also. I don't find the native is running Budha-bhukti right

> > now.

> >>>>>>>> From

> >>>>>>>>> November 2005, he is running Ketu Bhukti. Ketu is exalted in

> > the

> >>>>>>>> 10th

> >>>>>>>>> house - the most important house also holding the AL. During

> >>> Ketu

> >>>>>>>>> bhukti, the arudhas in the 2nd and trines to Ketu becomes

> >>>>> prominant.

> >>>>>>>>> Notice, A8 in the 6th house (service). Chandra is located in

> > the

> >>>>> 5th

> >>>>>>>>> from AL. 5H from AL is seen to note how people perceive

> >>>>>>>>> reputation/skills/abilities of the person. Here Chandra is

> >>> posited

> >>>>>>>> and

> >>>>>>>>> aspected by Mangal from the 8th house closely (within 2

deg).

> >>> Ketu

> >>>>>>>>> further is in Tula navamsa and this falls in the 8th house

in

> >>> Rasi

> >>>>>>>> chart

> >>>>>>>>> indicating troubles. If the Dasamsa lagna is Simha, then

Rahu

> > is

> >>>>> 7th

> >>>>>>>>> lord in the 6th house (Rahu is maraka to the 6th house of

> >>> service)

> >>>>>>>> and

> >>>>>>>>> Ketu is in the 12 th house of losses and 10th from Chandra

> >>>>>>>> (sustenance)

> >>>>>>>>> hampering the career. Using Rasi Narayana Dasa, Kumbha MD is

> >>>>> running

> >>>>>>>>> from October 2004. The progressed lagna is 7th from Kumbha

and

> >>>>>>>> falls in

> >>>>>>>>> the 6th house with A8. Antardasa is Karka (5th house from

> >>>>>>>>> lagna-reputation) and 12-th from Progressed lagna (losses).

> > This

> >>>>>>>> dasa is

> >>>>>>>>> otherwise quite good for him materially with three malefics

in

> >>> the

> >>>>>>>>> upachayas from Progressed lagna benefic in the 8th and

Chandra

> >>> in

> >>>>>>>> the

> >>>>>>>>> 9th.

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> Siva is Ishtadevata and Vishnu should be worshipped as

> >>>>> Palanadevata

> >>>>>>>> as

> >>>>>>>>> Guru owns 6th from AmK and conjoins Budha in the Navamsa.

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> Note: Problem with Budha is that it is not only in MKS, the

> >>> karak

> >>>>>>>> of the

> >>>>>>>>> bhava it is in (here shukra) is debilitated in both rasi and

> >>>>>>>> navamsa and

> >>>>>>>>> also Budha is DK in deep rasi sandhi.

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> Best wishes,

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> Sourav

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>

> > ================================================================

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> , "suchitra_kamath"

> >>>>>>>>> <suchitra_kamath@> wrote:

> >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>> Namasakar Visti,

> >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>> Please study the following chart.This person is running

> > Mercury

> >>>>>>>>>> Antardasha in Rahu Mahadasha(both exalted)However from the

> >>> middle

> >>>>>>>> of

> >>>>>>>>>> Mercury AD his reputation in Career is being questioned.He

is

> >>>>>>>> having

> >>>>>>>>>> tremendous mental stress and is taking antidepressants. Is

> > this

> >>>>>>>>>> becuase Mercury is in Marana Karak Sthana?

> >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks

> >>>>>>>>>> Suchitra

> >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>> DOB Oct 5,1963

> >>>>>>>>>> Time:6.05 pm(evening)

> >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>> Banaras India

> >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>> , "Visti Larsen" visti@

> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:

> >>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> >>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>> Dear Rhoda, Namaskar

> >>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>> Whether or not a planets dristi should be considered good

or

> >>> not

> >>>>>>>>>> depends

> >>>>>>>>>>> solely on the bhavas and not on the rasis. Example: Saturn

> > in

> >>>>>>>> the

> >>>>>>>>>> sixth

> >>>>>>>>>>> house is called `amrita dristi', because Saturn will

aspect

> >>> the

> >>>>>>>>>> third,

> >>>>>>>>>>> eighth and twelfth houses, as well as conjoin the sixth

> > house

> >>>>>>>>>> itself, hence

> >>>>>>>>>>> destroying all the dusthanas. So it depends on bhavas and

> > not

> >>>>>>>>>> rasis.

> >>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>> Now to disprove that malefics aspecting their

> >>>>>>>>>> exaltation/mulatrikona/own

> >>>>>>>>>>> rasi can be good, i present the case of Christopher Reeve

> >>>>>>>>>> (superman) whose

> >>>>>>>>>>> Mercury in Virgo is joined Saturn and aspected by Rahu,

> >>> forming

> >>>>>>>> a

> >>>>>>>>>> diabolical

> >>>>>>>>>>> curse manifesting during the Moola Dasa of Saturn-Saturn

in

> >>> May

> >>>>>>>>>> 1995.

> >>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>> Now next question may be, why didn't Mercuries exaltation

> > help

> >>>>>>>>>> him? Well...

> >>>>>>>>>>> Exaltation doesn't have to benefit you, it can also

benefit

> >>> your

> >>>>>>>>>> enemy or

> >>>>>>>>>>> give terrible curses/problems... This is especially so in

> >>>>>>>>>> Dusthanas.

> >>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>> As for Saturn and Rahu being `like' each other. My brother

> > and

> >>> I

> >>>>>>>>>> are `like'

> >>>>>>>>>>> each other. But my brother likes to watch TV all the time,

> >>>>>>>> whilst

> >>>>>>>>>> i would

> >>>>>>>>>>> prefer to do some writing or meditate. So also Saturn and

> > Rahu

> >>>>>>>> are

> >>>>>>>>>> quite

> >>>>>>>>>>> similar but are still different. Rahu does ok in Libra

> > (saturn

> >>>>>>>>>> exalted),

> >>>>>>>>>>> whilst Ketu does not like Capricorn (mars exalted) at all.

> >>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>> Best wishes,

> >>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>> ***

> >>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>> Visti Larsen

> >>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>> For services and articles visit:

> >>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com

> >>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>> ***

> >>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>> _____

> >>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>> [] On

> >>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Rhoda Reporter

> >>>>>>>>>>> 01 August 2006 13:41

> >>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>> [Om Krishna Guru] a question on rahu(for visti)

> >>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>> dear visti,

> >>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>> namaskar!

> >>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>> just read about the rahu placements and it's exaltation in

> >>>>>>>>>> gemini.

> >>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>> does that mean that rahu's 9th aspect when placed in libra

,

> >>>>>>>>>> should be

> >>>>>>>>>>> considered pretty good? may sound like a dumb question,

but

> >>>>>>>> please

> >>>>>>>>>> do

> >>>>>>>>>>> answer.

> >>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>> and on the same note, if rahu behaves like saturn , then

> > rahu

> >>> in

> >>>>>>>>>> libra

> >>>>>>>>>>> should do well, considering saturn is exalted here in this

> >>> sign

> >>>>>>>> of

> >>>>>>>>>>> libra>>!!?

> >>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>> waiting for sure to hear from you, however dumb my

question

> >>> may

> >>>>>>>>>> be!!

> >>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>> best wishes

> >>>>>>>>>>>

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