Guest guest Report post Posted February 24, 1999 DEAR PRABHU MY NAME IS PREMANANDA GOURA AT YOUE SERVICE,THERE IS A WONDERFULL SUBJI EGGPLANT ,POTATO, JUST DEEP FRY THE POTATOS MAKE SHURE CUT THE POTATO IN SMALL CUBICS,THE GUI OR OIL HAS TO BE HOT FRY ALL THE POTATOS AND EGGPLANT PUT IT TOGETHER IN A POT AND TAKE SOUR CREAM,ASIDE MAKE A CHUNCE OF CORIANDER SEEDS GRATED GINGER,AZAFOETIDA,AND FENNEL SEEDS AD TO THE SOUR CREAM,MIX TOGHETHER AND ADD TO THE VEGETABLES MIX TOGHETER MAKE SURE IS NOT TO DRY YOU CAN ADD A LITTLE MILK TO MAKE IT CREME,ITS FAST GOOD SUBJI,AT THE END ADD FRESH CORIANDER I SUGEST KURMA PRABHU BEAUTIFUUL RECEPIES YOURS PREMA Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 7, 1999 Yes, all of you out there, cooking: get Kurmas new book "Cooking with Kurma", by Chakra Press, it´s great (this is a cook speaking...) And specially all of you who are learning, there is no need to speculate (that you can do when you are expert...), just get some cookbooks and follow the recipes, and you´ll be fine. Good luck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 5, 1999 Hari Bol, Pamho All glories to Srila Prabhpada and to Iskcon Guru Vrinda. Can someone please tell me whether we can use the following on Ekadasi: Cumin seeds(jeera) mustard seeds sesame seeds. Happy cooking, your servant Sravaniya Devi Dasi Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 5, 1999 Hari Bol, Pamho All glories to Srila Prabhpada and to Iskcon Guru Vrinda. Can someone please tell me whether we can use the following on Ekadasi: Cumin seeds(jeera) mustard seeds sesame seeds. Happy cooking, your servant Sravaniya Devi Dasi Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 5, 1999 Hare Krishna. > Can someone please tell me whether we can use the following on Ekadasi: > Cumin seeds(jeera) > mustard seeds > sesame seeds. We don't eat grains or beans on Ekadasi. If it's not a grain or a bean, it's OK for Ekadasi. The spices you mention are not grains or beans, so they are OK. ys, Balarama Dasa Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 5, 1999 Hare Krishna. > Can someone please tell me whether we can use the following on Ekadasi: > Cumin seeds(jeera) > mustard seeds > sesame seeds. We don't eat grains or beans on Ekadasi. If it's not a grain or a bean, it's OK for Ekadasi. The spices you mention are not grains or beans, so they are OK. ys, Balarama Dasa Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 5, 1999 yes kurma prabhu is wonderfull his last book shows it you can get it from new york temple yours premananda goura Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 5, 1999 yes kurma prabhu is wonderfull his last book shows it you can get it from new york temple yours premananda goura Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 7, 1999 On 05 Apr 1999, Sravaniya dd wrote: > Cumin seeds(jeera) Yes > mustard seeds NO > sesame seeds. Yes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 7, 1999 On 05 Apr 1999, Sravaniya dd wrote: > Cumin seeds(jeera) Yes > mustard seeds NO > sesame seeds. Yes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 7, 1999 > On 05 Apr 1999, Sravaniya dd wrote: > > > Cumin seeds(jeera) Yes > > mustard seeds NO > > sesame seeds. Yes Mustard seeds are not grains, nor are they beans. Prabhupada ate them on Ekadasi (see Yamuna's Cookbook for proof.) Some Hindus say that you can't eat them on Ekadasi because they are in the mode of passion. If you want to add extra austerity to your Ekadasi Vrata, you may choose to exclude them -- but to say that they are forbidden for ekadasi accoring to our siddhanta is simply wrong. ys, Balarama Dasa Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 7, 1999 > On 05 Apr 1999, Sravaniya dd wrote: > > > Cumin seeds(jeera) Yes > > mustard seeds NO > > sesame seeds. Yes Mustard seeds are not grains, nor are they beans. Prabhupada ate them on Ekadasi (see Yamuna's Cookbook for proof.) Some Hindus say that you can't eat them on Ekadasi because they are in the mode of passion. If you want to add extra austerity to your Ekadasi Vrata, you may choose to exclude them -- but to say that they are forbidden for ekadasi accoring to our siddhanta is simply wrong. ys, Balarama Dasa Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 8, 1999 PAMHO. AGTSP. But in Pancaratra Pradipa it is stated that we are not to eat(offer to deitys) mustard and sesame seeds on ekadasi. There is only one ekadasi in a year when we can eat sesame seeds otherwise not. What about that? YS bhn Teja Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 8, 1999 PAMHO. AGTSP. But in Pancaratra Pradipa it is stated that we are not to eat(offer to deitys) mustard and sesame seeds on ekadasi. There is only one ekadasi in a year when we can eat sesame seeds otherwise not. What about that? YS bhn Teja Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 8, 1999 PAMHO > But in Pancaratra Pradipa it is stated that we are not to eat(offer to > deitys) mustard and sesame seeds on ekadasi. There is only one ekadasi in > a year when we can eat sesame seeds otherwise not. > What about that? Do you know that it is stated that we must fast completly on ekadasi? What about that? Sindhu Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 8, 1999 PAMHO > But in Pancaratra Pradipa it is stated that we are not to eat(offer to > deitys) mustard and sesame seeds on ekadasi. There is only one ekadasi in > a year when we can eat sesame seeds otherwise not. > What about that? Do you know that it is stated that we must fast completly on ekadasi? What about that? Sindhu Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 8, 1999 > PAMHO. AGTSP. > But in Pancaratra Pradipa it is stated that we are not to eat(offer to > deitys) mustard and sesame seeds on ekadasi. There is only one ekadasi in > a year when we can eat sesame seeds otherwise not. > What about that? > YS bhn Teja Srila Prabhupada gave us a simple system -- no grains or beans on ekadasi. That is what his instructions to us were. Simple, no? Nothing hard to understand there. This is the standard for our society -- no grains or beans on ekadasi. Now, if you personally desire to increase your austerity, there are other restrictions you can choose to voluntarily take upon yourself -- but such restrictions should be clearly understood to be *your* personal, voluntary vrata -- not something which everyone is required to follow. Just like if you want to chant more than 16 rounds you are welcome to do it and that is very good -- but you should not say that everyone must chant like you do. Srila Prabhupada set the standards and we should not change them whimsically, no matter what it says in the Pancaratra Pradipa. Hare Krishna -- your servant, Balarama Dasa Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 8, 1999 > PAMHO. AGTSP. > But in Pancaratra Pradipa it is stated that we are not to eat(offer to > deitys) mustard and sesame seeds on ekadasi. There is only one ekadasi in > a year when we can eat sesame seeds otherwise not. > What about that? > YS bhn Teja Srila Prabhupada gave us a simple system -- no grains or beans on ekadasi. That is what his instructions to us were. Simple, no? Nothing hard to understand there. This is the standard for our society -- no grains or beans on ekadasi. Now, if you personally desire to increase your austerity, there are other restrictions you can choose to voluntarily take upon yourself -- but such restrictions should be clearly understood to be *your* personal, voluntary vrata -- not something which everyone is required to follow. Just like if you want to chant more than 16 rounds you are welcome to do it and that is very good -- but you should not say that everyone must chant like you do. Srila Prabhupada set the standards and we should not change them whimsically, no matter what it says in the Pancaratra Pradipa. Hare Krishna -- your servant, Balarama Dasa Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 13, 1999 [Text 76288 from SOCHI] > > PAMHO. AGTSP. > > But in Pancaratra Pradipa it is stated that we are not to eat(offer to > > deitys) mustard and sesame seeds on ekadasi. There is only one ekadasi > > in a year when we can eat sesame seeds otherwise not. > > What about that? > > YS bhn Teja > > Srila Prabhupada gave us a simple system -- no grains or beans on ekadasi. > That is what his instructions to us were. Simple, no? Nothing hard to > understand there. This is the standard for our society -- no grains or > beans on ekadasi. > > Now, if you personally desire to increase your austerity, there are other > restrictions you can choose to voluntarily take upon yourself -- but such > restrictions should be clearly understood to be *your* personal, voluntary > vrata -- not something which everyone is required to follow. Just like if > you want to chant more than 16 rounds you are welcome to do it and that is > very good -- but you should not say that everyone must chant like you do. > Srila Prabhupada set the standards and we should not change them > whimsically, no matter what it says in the Pancaratra Pradipa. Isn't the Pancaratra Pradipa meant to set the standards for our society? It says: "Srila Prabhupada specified foodgrains and beans (pulses) as foods that must be avoided on Ekadasi. One may use spices for cooking, although mustard seeds should be avoided." I think better to first find out where this injunction comes from and whether it's optional. Your servant Mundita-mastaka das Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 13, 1999 [Text 76288 from SOCHI] > > PAMHO. AGTSP. > > But in Pancaratra Pradipa it is stated that we are not to eat(offer to > > deitys) mustard and sesame seeds on ekadasi. There is only one ekadasi > > in a year when we can eat sesame seeds otherwise not. > > What about that? > > YS bhn Teja > > Srila Prabhupada gave us a simple system -- no grains or beans on ekadasi. > That is what his instructions to us were. Simple, no? Nothing hard to > understand there. This is the standard for our society -- no grains or > beans on ekadasi. > > Now, if you personally desire to increase your austerity, there are other > restrictions you can choose to voluntarily take upon yourself -- but such > restrictions should be clearly understood to be *your* personal, voluntary > vrata -- not something which everyone is required to follow. Just like if > you want to chant more than 16 rounds you are welcome to do it and that is > very good -- but you should not say that everyone must chant like you do. > Srila Prabhupada set the standards and we should not change them > whimsically, no matter what it says in the Pancaratra Pradipa. Isn't the Pancaratra Pradipa meant to set the standards for our society? It says: "Srila Prabhupada specified foodgrains and beans (pulses) as foods that must be avoided on Ekadasi. One may use spices for cooking, although mustard seeds should be avoided." I think better to first find out where this injunction comes from and whether it's optional. Your servant Mundita-mastaka das Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 13, 1999 Hare Krishna. > Isn't the Pancaratra Pradipa meant to set the standards for our society? Srila Prabhupada's books and actions are meant to set the standards for our society. There is nary a word in either about not eating mustard seeds on ekadasi. What more do you need to know? > It says: "Srila Prabhupada specified foodgrains and beans (pulses) as > foods that must be avoided on Ekadasi. One may use spices for cooking, > although mustard seeds should be avoided." > > I think better to first find out where this injunction comes from and > whether it's optional. Srila Prabhupada was the Acarya for ISKCON. Acarya means "One who teaches by example." Srila Prabhupada ate mustard seeds on Ekadasi regularly. Also, he never said a word in his books, nor in person, about not eating mustard seeds on Ekadasi. If they were important, don't you think he would have said something? Further, in the quote which you give above, firstly it says what Srila Prabhupada said, "No grains or beans." Then, it says "mustard seeds should be avoided." Where does this "mustard seeds should be avoided" come from? The paragraph above implies that it comes from Srila Prabhupdada. I don't think it does. I think it is a smarta regulation which has been added by a well meaning translator. I'm sticking to my guns. If you want to, by all means avoid mustard seeds on Ekadasi. But please don't try to make it the standard for all of ISKCON. Hare Krishna -- your servant, Balarama Dasa Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 13, 1999 Hare Krishna. > Isn't the Pancaratra Pradipa meant to set the standards for our society? Srila Prabhupada's books and actions are meant to set the standards for our society. There is nary a word in either about not eating mustard seeds on ekadasi. What more do you need to know? > It says: "Srila Prabhupada specified foodgrains and beans (pulses) as > foods that must be avoided on Ekadasi. One may use spices for cooking, > although mustard seeds should be avoided." > > I think better to first find out where this injunction comes from and > whether it's optional. Srila Prabhupada was the Acarya for ISKCON. Acarya means "One who teaches by example." Srila Prabhupada ate mustard seeds on Ekadasi regularly. Also, he never said a word in his books, nor in person, about not eating mustard seeds on Ekadasi. If they were important, don't you think he would have said something? Further, in the quote which you give above, firstly it says what Srila Prabhupada said, "No grains or beans." Then, it says "mustard seeds should be avoided." Where does this "mustard seeds should be avoided" come from? The paragraph above implies that it comes from Srila Prabhupdada. I don't think it does. I think it is a smarta regulation which has been added by a well meaning translator. I'm sticking to my guns. If you want to, by all means avoid mustard seeds on Ekadasi. But please don't try to make it the standard for all of ISKCON. Hare Krishna -- your servant, Balarama Dasa Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 14, 1999 I heard in the early days (from Yamuna dd) that mustard seeds were not encouraged at all. They were commonly used in India in the food we ate, but the devotees that first came from America to India in 1971 looked down on such things. Some of our standards are a little vague: for instance whether to fast till moonrise on Rama's avirbhava , as he instructed in his letters, or to fast till noon, as he practiced up to 1976 in Vrndavan and other places according to witnesses. in which case using intelligence we should apply what sastric directives there are along with common behaviour among other gaudiya vaisnavas. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 14, 1999 I heard in the early days (from Yamuna dd) that mustard seeds were not encouraged at all. They were commonly used in India in the food we ate, but the devotees that first came from America to India in 1971 looked down on such things. Some of our standards are a little vague: for instance whether to fast till moonrise on Rama's avirbhava , as he instructed in his letters, or to fast till noon, as he practiced up to 1976 in Vrndavan and other places according to witnesses. in which case using intelligence we should apply what sastric directives there are along with common behaviour among other gaudiya vaisnavas. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 14, 1999 [Text 76339 from SOCHI] > > Isn't the Pancaratra Pradipa meant to set the standards for our society? > > Srila Prabhupada's books and actions are meant to set the standards for > our society. There is nary a word in either about not eating mustard seeds > on ekadasi. SP books are not necessarily meant to tell us about eating mustard seeds and all other minor rules followed by the Vaisnavas, but this doesn't mean these rules are all useless for us. SP didn't introduce many rules in the beginning, but later he would give more and more rules. My understanding is that Pancaratra Pradipa was written according to the instructions of SP by the competent devotees for the guidance of all ISKCON members. > What more do you need to know? I need to know what is your position to tell us that Pancaratra Pradipa is not so important and we can reject it's rules according to our knowledge of what SP said and did. > > I'm sticking to my guns. If you want to, by all means avoid mustard seeds > on Ekadasi. But please don't try to make it the standard for all of > ISKCON. Prabhu, you can stick to whatever you like, but please don't tell us that we can whimsically reject what is said in the ISKCON Deity Worship Handbook. If you are sure this particular rule is not meant for the Vaisnavas, but only for smartas, please show your evidence. The personal example of Srila Prabhupada, who is above all rules, is not always to be imitated by us. Haribol! YS Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
