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Colour code for Iran's 'infidels' so Muslims can avoid shaking hands by mistake!!!

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A colour code for Iran's 'infidels'

<TABLE width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD colSpan=2> </TD></TR><TR><TD>Amir Taheri</TD><TD>[url="http://www.canada.com/components/print.aspx?id=398274b5-9210-43e4-ba59-fa24f4c66ad4&k=28534#Soundoff"]</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=2>National Post</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Friday, May 19, 2006

 

<!--begin story text--><TABLE style="FLOAT: right" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=3 width=250 align=right border=0 valign="top"><TBODY><TR><TD><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=2 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD>215793-72785.jpg?size=l</TD></TR><TR><TD class=storycredit>CREDIT: Hulton Archive, Getty Images</TD></TR><TR><TD class=storycredit>A middle-class businessman in Berlin in 1935, with a yellow star on his overcoat to indicate he is a Jew.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>While the Iranian economy appears to be heading for recession, one sector may have some reason for optimism. That sector is the garment industry and the reason for hopefulness is a law passed by the Islamic Majlis (parliament) on Monday.

The law mandates the government to make sure that all Iranians wear "standard Islamic garments" designed to remove ethnic and class distinctions reflected in clothing, and to eliminate "the influence of the infidel" on the way Iranians, especially, the young dress. It also envisages separate dress codes for religious minorities, Christians, Jews and Zoroastrians, who will have to adopt distinct colour schemes to make them identifiable in public. The new codes would enable Muslims to easily recognize non-Muslims so that they can avoid shaking hands with them by mistake, and thus becoming najis (unclean).

The new law, drafted during the presidency of Muhammad Khatami in 2004, had been blocked within the Majlis. That blockage, however, has been removed under pressure from Khatami's successor, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

The new law replaces the one passed in 1982 dealing with women's clothes. That law imposed the hijab and focused on the need to force women to cover their hair in public. The emphasis on the hijab was based on the belief that women's hair emanates an "evil ray" that drives men "into lustful irrationality" and thus causes harm to Islam. The new law cannot come into effect until consensus is reached on what constitutes "authentic Islamic attire."

The world's estimated 1.3 billion Muslims live in more than 180 different countries and dress in a bewilderingly large number of styles reflecting national, tribal, ethnic and folkloric traditions. The Ethnological Museum in Tehran shows that Iran itself is home to hundreds of different styles of clothing for men and women.

According to Ahmadinejad, the new Islamic uniforms will establish "visual equality" for Iranians as they prepare for the return of the Hidden Imam.

A committee that consists of members from the Ministry of Islamic Orientation, the Ministry of Commerce and the Cultural Subcommittee of the Islamic Majlis is scheduled to propose the new uniforms by next autumn. These would then have to be approved by the "Supreme Guide" Ali Khamenei before being imposed by law.

Although the final shape of the uniforms is yet to be established, there is consensus on a number of points. The idea of adopting an Arab-style robe (known as dishdash) for men has been rejected along with a proposal that men wear a form of turban.

"Iranians have always worn trousers," says Mostafa Pourhardani, Minister of Islamic Orientation. "Even when the ancient Greeks wore woman-style dresses with skirts, the Persians had trousers. We are not going to force Iranian men to do away with trousers although they predate Islam."

What men will wear on top is not clear yet.

Some Islamic experts want a kind of long, almost European-style, jacket known as "sardari" and used in Iran for centuries. Others propose only a waistcoat.

On colour schemes, however, there seems to be consensus.

Islamic legislators are unanimous that Islam is incompatible with "gay, wild, provocative colours" such as red, yellow, and light blue, which are supposed to be favoured by Satan. The colours to be imposed by law are expected to be black, brown, dark blue and dark grey.

Some Majlis members have been trying to lift the ban on green, which is, after all, the colour of the Bani Hashem, the family of the Prophet Muhammad, and thus regarded as the colour of Islam. The majority view, however, is that green is not "serious enough" to underline the gravity of a Muslim man's position.

Religious minorities would have their own colour schemes. They will also have to wear special insignia, known as zonnar, to indicate their non-Islamic faiths. Jews would be marked out with a yellow strip of cloth sewn in front of their clothes while Christians will be assigned the colour red. Zoroastrians end up with Persian blue as the colour of their zonnar. It is not clear what will happen to followers of other religions, including Hindus, Bahais and Buddhists, not to mention plain agnostics and atheists, whose very existence is denied by the Islamic Republic.

The new law imposes a total ban on wearing neckties and bow-ties which are regarded as "symbols of the Cross." Will Iranian Christians be allowed to wear them, nevertheless? No one knows.

The law also mandates the government to wage a campaign against "expensive attire" without defining it. Some mullahs, for example, wear robes made of pure hand-woven silk that costs several thousands dollars. Nor is it clear whether or not the kind of blouson (long shirt) that Ahmadinejad often wears would be deemed Islamic. (Shops in Tehran are selling the so-called "presidential" blouson for US$3 apiece.)

One aim of the new law is to impose a total ban on imports of clothes and dress designs from the West. The Majlis hopes that all jeans will disappear from the Iranian scene within five years. The boutiques selling haute couture Western gear for men and women will also be closed over the next few years. A total ban on designer items, marked by logos, will come into force by the end of the year.

"There is no sense in a Muslim man or woman wearing something that is, in fact, an advertisement for an infidel designer or clothing merchant," says Pourharandi.

Another aim of the new law is to abolish the chador, the overall piece of cloth that Iranian women have tucked themselves in for centuries. The reason is that the chador existed before the Khomeinist revolution and thus cannot be regarded as "properly Islamic." Women must wear clothes that would, in fact, transform them into advertising billboards for the regime's ideology.

One remaining problem is to decide the age at which girls should wear the uniforms. At present the hijab is mandatory from the age of six. But some of Ahmadinejad's advisers want to reduce that to four.

During the committee debates on the new law, some Majlis members tried to include articles determining the shape and size of men's beards and mustaches and impose an Islamic standard for male facial hair. But it was agreed that the issue be tackled in another bill to be presented to the Majlis next year.

By September the Majlis is expected to approve an initial budget of US$800-million to help "the poor and the needy" to adopt the new uniforms. All public sector workers, estimated to number 4.5 million, will be in uniform by 2009 at the latest.

What is already labelled "the Islamic clothes revolution" will not be limited to Iran. Tehran has already sent a team to Lebanon to inform the Hezbollah of the new law and train cadres to impose it on Lebanese Shiites.

"Our aim is to make sure that every Muslim, wherever he or she happens to be on this Earth, is a living and walking symbol of Islam," says Pourharandi.

- Iranian author and journalist Amir Taheri is a member of Benador Associates.

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Jews would be marked out with a yellow strip of cloth sewn in front of their ..

 

Now where have we heard this before? Oh yeah, the Nazis made the Jews sew yellow stars of David on their clothes to identify them. (Just now saw the picture.)

 

Also made me think of brahmana's who were supposed to jump in a holy river with their clothes on if they contacted the shadow of a sudra.

 

GITA

TRANSLATION 5.18

The humble sages, by virtue of true knowledge, see with equal vision a learned and gentle brähmaëa, a cow, an elephant, a dog and a dog-eater [outcaste].

 

PURPORT

A Krsna conscious person does not make any distinction between species or castes. The brähmaëa and the outcaste may be different from the social point of view, or a dog, a cow, and an elephant may be different from the point of view of species, but these differences of body are meaningless from the viewpoint of a learned transcendentalist. This is due to their relationship to the Supreme, for the Supreme Lord, by His plenary portion as Paramätmä, is present in everyone's heart. Such an understanding of the Supreme is real knowledge. As far as the bodies are concerned in different castes or different species of life, the Lord is equally kind to everyone because He treats every living being as a friend yet maintains Himself as Paramätmä regardless of the circumstances of the living entities. The Lord as Paramätmä is present both in the outcaste and in the brähmaëa, although the body of a brähmaëa and that of an outcaste are not the same. The bodies are material productions of different modes of material nature, but the soul and the Supersoul within the body are of the same spiritual quality. The similarity in the quality of the soul and the Supersoul, however, does not make them equal in quantity, for the individual soul is present only in that particular body whereas the Paramätmä is present in each and every body. A Krsna conscious person has full knowledge of this, and therefore he is truly learned and has equal vision. The similar characteristics of the soul and Supersoul are that they are both conscious, eternal and blissful. But the difference is that the individual soul is conscious within the limited jurisdiction of the body whereas the Supersoul is conscious of all bodies. The Supersoul is present in all bodies without distinction.

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Can't they see their leader is nutz? Talk about loose cannons!

 

 

That is the point - when one sees a bent leader - who doesn't thus see that the usual first victims of such 'leaders' - are the people of the particular nation where the tyrant is - thus - I would hope that enough people in Iran can indeed see that he is 'nutz' - without being any more victimized to find out the need for change.

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See the 12th council below of 1215:

List of ecumenical councils

 

 

The Seven Ecumenical Councils

 

Councils #8 and #9

 

 

 

#8 and #9 for Roman Catholics
  • 8 (rc).
    , (
    –
    ); deposed Patriarch Photios of Constantinople (who was later made a saint by the Orthodox Church) because of certain irregularities involved in his assumption of the patriarchal throne, such as the fact that his predecessor St. Ignatius had not been validly deposed. This deposition was not accepted by the
    Church at the time, but was within a few years. In any case, after the death of St. Ignatius, Photios was reinstated as Patriarch and reconciled with the Papacy.

     

     

     

    [*]
    9 (rc)
    , (
    ); dealt with one of the pressing issues of the time, the question of the rights of the Catholic Church and those of the Holy Roman Emperors with respect to the investment of bishops.

 

#8 and #9 for some Eastern Orthodox

 

 

The next two are regarded as ecumenical by some in the
but not by other Eastern Orthodox Christians, who instead consider them to be important local councils. They have nevertheless received universal acceptance by all Orthodox Churches even where their ecumenicity is not recognized.

 

Councils #10 to #21 for Roman Catholics

 

Source:

 

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See the 12th council below of 1215:

List of ecumenical councils

 

 

The Seven Ecumenical Councils

Councils #8 and #9

 

 

 

#8 and #9 for Roman Catholics
  • 8 (rc).
    , (
    –
    ); deposed Patriarch Photios of Constantinople (who was later made a saint by the Orthodox Church) because of certain irregularities involved in his assumption of the patriarchal throne, such as the fact that his predecessor St. Ignatius had not been validly deposed. This deposition was not accepted by the
    Church at the time, but was within a few years. In any case, after the death of St. Ignatius, Photios was reinstated as Patriarch and reconciled with the Papacy.

     

     

     

    [*]
    9 (rc)
    , (
    ); dealt with one of the pressing issues of the time, the question of the rights of the Catholic Church and those of the Holy Roman Emperors with respect to the investment of bishops.

#8 and #9 for some Eastern Orthodox

 

 

The next two are regarded as ecumenical by some in the
but not by other Eastern Orthodox Christians, who instead consider them to be important local councils. They have nevertheless received universal acceptance by all Orthodox Churches even where their ecumenicity is not recognized.

Councils #10 to #21 for Roman Catholics

 

Source:

 

Hari Bolo!

 

So what does this have to do with Iran? What went on 800 years ago is one thing - but what about today?

 

Is it that you're saying if the Iranian regime continues with this program it could end up that the christian nations shall require it too in the future - that Muslims would have to wear an identifier - after all - what was once in 1215 - could be again today?

 

YS,

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But no one cares whether the truth is told, they believe what they want. The fact is that this story has been around for awhile, written by a neo-con, and published in Jewish right wing media outlets. totally meant to fan the flames of the "never again" mentality.

 

These nbeocons are desperate, because they are clearly known as fascists, and theyve lost it completely.

 

But please, do some critical thinking. Find out whether drivel presented as fact has any basis of fact in it. For one thing, no laws of this type have been passed, in fact, there are no jew problems in Iran, because judaism is not allowed. (before you gasp in hoorror, realize that in Israel, a Jew cannot marry a christian).

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But no one cares whether the truth is told, they believe what they want. The fact is that this story has been around for awhile, written by a neo-con, and published in Jewish right wing media outlets. totally meant to fan the flames of the "never again" mentality.

 

These nbeocons are desperate, because they are clearly known as fascists, and theyve lost it completely.

 

But please, do some critical thinking. Find out whether drivel presented as fact has any basis of fact in it. For one thing, no laws of this type have been passed, in fact, there are no jew problems in Iran, because judaism is not allowed. (before you gasp in hoorror, realize that in Israel, a Jew cannot marry a christian).

 

Quote:

 

totally meant to fan the flames of the "never again" mentality

 

Reply:

 

You say that like it's a bad thing! I hope you're not saying that you'd just as well as give up on that program - as the "never again" part - interferes with whose programs?

 

Unless you too are in denial about what happened - to millions at the hands of the nazis!?

 

So what - it turns out that the title post news piece isn't true - well - it ain't exactly true. Can you [any westerners] obtain a true copy of their new law - to see the exact wordings? I doubt it!

 

Here is something [very true] about the leader of iran:

 

He was brought up in the rough neighbourhoods of south Tehran, where a cocktail of poverty, frustration and xenophobia in the heydays of the Shah’s elitist regime provided fertile grounds for the rise of Islamic fundamentalism...Soon the whirlwind of Islamic revolution led by Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini swept him from the classroom to the mosque and he joined a generation of firebrand Islamic fundamentalists dedicated to the cause of an Islamic world revolution....During the crackdown on universities in 1980, which Khomeini called the “Islamic Cultural Revolution”, Ahmadinejad and the OSU played a critical role in purging dissident lecturers and students many of whom were arrested and later executed. Universities remained closed for three years and Ahmadinejad joined the Revolutionary Guards...In the early 1980s, Ahmadinejad worked in the “Internal Security” department of the IRGC and earned notoriety as a ruthless interrogator and torturer. According to the state-run website Baztab, allies of outgoing President Mohammad Khatami have revealed that Ahmadinejad worked for some time as an executioner in the notorious Evin Prison, where thousands of political prisoners were executed in the bloody purges of the 1980s.

 

http://www.iranfocus.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=2605

 

Yes I'm sure there are Jews Christians Zoroastrians and maybe - even a few hare krishna devotees in Iran - after all Srila Prabhupada did go there!

 

Were any of the thousands of people tortured and murdered in the bloody purges of the 1980's - murdered for having one such book? How can we know? If they are there now - they aught to find a way out as - it's quite clear what this guy thinks!?

 

Do you think Iran is a model for Islam and what is best for the world - if we could just all be like them? Is that what you think? What do you think of these things?

 

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(before you gasp in hoorror, realize that in Israel, a Jew cannot marry a christian)

 

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Is that so? Are you saying they cannot get a civil court to marry them? Even if it were so - that is NOTHING like these guys in Iran - just think about it - ok?

 

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OTTAWA (Reuters) - A Canadian newspaper apologized on Wednesday for a story that said Iran planned to force Jews and other religious minorities to wear distinctive clothing to distinguish themselves from Muslims.

 

The conservative National Post ran the story on its front page last Friday along with a large photo from 1944 which showed a Hungarian couple wearing the yellow stars that the Nazis forced Jews to sew to their clothing.

The story, which included tough anti-Iran comments from prominent Jewish groups, was picked up widely by Web sites and by other media.

"Is Iran turning into the new Nazi Germany? Share your opinion online," the paper asked readers last Friday.

But the National Post, a long-time supporter of Israel and critic of Tehran, admitted on Wednesday it had not checked the piece thoroughly enough before running it.

"It is now clear the story is not true," National Post editor-in-chief Douglas Kelly wrote in a long editorial on page 2. "We apologize for the mistake and for the consternation it has caused not just National Post readers, but the broader public who read the story."

The story was based on a column by Iranian expatriate writer Amir Taheri, who said a law being debated by Iran's parliament would force Jews to sew a yellow strip of cloth to their clothes. Christians would wear a red strip while Zoroastrians would wear a blue one.

Iranian legislators dismissed the story.

The story and the column appeared at a time when the international community is pressuring Tehran over its nuclear program. Iran is also under fire for comments by President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in which he doubted the scale of the Holocaust.

Asked about the Post story last Friday, Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper said Iran "is very capable of this kind of action." He added: "It boggles the mind that any regime on the face of the Earth would want to do anything that could remind people of Nazi Germany."

A spokesman for Harper said the prime minister had started off his comments with the words "If this is true."

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there is a serious propaganda war going on between various demonic factions of this world. dont get DUPED into participation in their dirty games. they kill tens of thousands innocent people in the name of "demoncracy" and your own security. it is all lies, just like the one in this thread.

 

a brahmana can distinguish between the truth and the lie pretending to be the truth.

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Well let's move past this point [it may be true how can we know] and talk about the brutal and bloody purges of the 1980's - what would any brahmana think of that?

 

What do 'you' think of the Islamic revolution? What do you do when it captures you or your decendants?

 

To hear people defend Iran in it's current state is such a sad thing indeed.

 

We must know that our western leaders - even in all their ineptness are not out right evil - as we see in these others like the president of Iran. Nor is democracy anything like their bent plans for a global Islamic theocracy!

 

How many of his FELLOW COMPATRIOTS did he torture and execute in this Islamic revolution? How many to come? Can't people see that he's like a dog that keeps getting into the chicken coop and killing chickens - it's like he has a personal taste for blood. Such a great fellow to enter international political issues isn't he!

 

Just look into his eyes in the photos - what do you see?

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Oh, a lie. Okay, but lets move beyond that. No, we wont move beyond these liars, especially when the Srimad Bhagavatam clearly states that the diety of earth, mother Bhumi, can tolerate any burden, except a lie. No, we wont follow your logic. Look into eyes? What kind of test is this. I look into yasser arafats eyes, and I see sadness borne from years as living as a second class citizen, always a refugee3. I look into bin ladens eyes, and I see intelligence. Maybe you wont aedmit it, but a gang of rich thugs has defeaqted all the great armed forces of the twentieth century, first, the Soviets were crushed by their ill advised invasion of afghan, where ben laden and his gand of mujhadin wiped them out. Now, the US is defeated in every way by ben laden. I dont follow the dude, but if you analyze, he has brought the west to their knees. He defeated an incredibly weak leader (bush, aka IQ87), confused all the wests intelligence, and is just as much a threat to the US as he was prior to 9-11, before the war on terrorism (which is nothing more than the US becoming terrorists). He is also responsible for the us citizen losing their beloved constitution, throwing the US into the fascist way, etc. So what do I see looking into his eyes? I see an incredible apt warrior, tactician,etc.

 

As far as Islam goes, it aint no different thAN ANY OTHER THEOCRACY. If the leaders are fools guided by religiosity and biogotry, the citizens are crushed under such weight.

 

Will the US citizen send their children to die for the rights of Israel to exist? I think we should be allowed to vote on that one. Nowhere in the Constitution does it say we must defend a sovereigh nation other than our own. The treatys must be honored, but our main treaty is the UN charter, which Israel defies, and they also defy the treaty on nuclear non-proliferation. No, Israel (the nation) is not worth the lives of american children. They have caused irreparable damage by their treatment of the indigenous people of the region, and they must pay by the method right up the street.

 

But folks who dont care if they are lied to by ones whose very existance requires absolute truthfulness have no hope, no intelligence, and can engage in no debate worth approaching.

 

Oh, do the bloody purges of the 80s include Ariel Sharon going into refugee camps in southern lebanon and mowing down old men, women and children? How about the bloody purges against identity christians or branch davidians. How about the innocent children purged by the ATF in waco. How come Janet Reno is not on trial? Saddam is on trial for killing a cult of folks who tried to actively assassinate him, but all koresh did was sell a sawed off shotgun to the wrong dude, and also work dilligently on the seven seals leading to armageddon. My god, dude, wake up. All nations have their bloody purges, Israel is a kali yuga nation, as is the USA. The Israeli treats the indigenous folks of the area the way we treated chief joseph of the Nez perce and captain Jack of the Modocs. Never again? Not so, just the other end of the fascist stick, always again, but not to us, maybe, but never "never again". This is ignorant denial of the age we live in.

 

I dont defend Iran, they are the same garbage philosophy that is the USA, Israel, Egypt, India, Paki, China, and all their nukes will fly, and they dont care.

mahaksadasa

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Oh, a lie. Okay, but lets move beyond that. No, we wont move beyond these liars, especially when the Srimad Bhagavatam clearly states that the diety of earth, mother Bhumi, can tolerate any burden, except a lie. No, we wont follow your logic. Look into eyes? What kind of test is this. I look into yasser arafats eyes, and I see sadness borne from years as living as a second class citizen, always a refugee3. I look into bin ladens eyes, and I see intelligence. Maybe you wont aedmit it, but a gang of rich thugs has defeaqted all the great armed forces of the twentieth century, first, the Soviets were crushed by their ill advised invasion of afghan, where ben laden and his gand of mujhadin wiped them out. Now, the US is defeated in every way by ben laden. I dont follow the dude, but if you analyze, he has brought the west to their knees. He defeated an incredibly weak leader (bush, aka IQ87), confused all the wests intelligence, and is just as much a threat to the US as he was prior to 9-11, before the war on terrorism (which is nothing more than the US becoming terrorists). He is also responsible for the us citizen losing their beloved constitution, throwing the US into the fascist way, etc. So what do I see looking into his eyes? I see an incredible apt warrior, tactician,etc.

 

As far as Islam goes, it aint no different thAN ANY OTHER THEOCRACY. If the leaders are fools guided by religiosity and biogotry, the citizens are crushed under such weight.

 

Will the US citizen send their children to die for the rights of Israel to exist? I think we should be allowed to vote on that one. Nowhere in the Constitution does it say we must defend a sovereigh nation other than our own. The treatys must be honored, but our main treaty is the UN charter, which Israel defies, and they also defy the treaty on nuclear non-proliferation. No, Israel (the nation) is not worth the lives of american children. They have caused irreparable damage by their treatment of the indigenous people of the region, and they must pay by the method right up the street.

 

But folks who dont care if they are lied to by ones whose very existance requires absolute truthfulness have no hope, no intelligence, and can engage in no debate worth approaching.

 

Oh, do the bloody purges of the 80s include Ariel Sharon going into refugee camps in southern lebanon and mowing down old men, women and children? How about the bloody purges against identity christians or branch davidians. How about the innocent children purged by the ATF in waco. How come Janet Reno is not on trial? Saddam is on trial for killing a cult of folks who tried to actively assassinate him, but all koresh did was sell a sawed off shotgun to the wrong dude, and also work dilligently on the seven seals leading to armageddon. My god, dude, wake up. All nations have their bloody purges, Israel is a kali yuga nation, as is the USA. The Israeli treats the indigenous folks of the area the way we treated chief joseph of the Nez perce and captain Jack of the Modocs. Never again? Not so, just the other end of the fascist stick, always again, but not to us, maybe, but never "never again". This is ignorant denial of the age we live in.

 

I dont defend Iran, they are the same garbage philosophy that is the USA, Israel, Egypt, India, Paki, China, and all their nukes will fly, and they dont care.

mahaksadasa

 

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