A/ Women in leading positions.

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> > >

> > > Better to follow, not imitate, isn't it. Did Srila Prabhupada ever

> instruct

> > > any of his disciples to play soccer?

>

> > Did he ever instruct them not to?

>

> That is no answer to my question, prabhu--just a typical diversionary tactic,

> I humbly submit. But I'll answer the question for you: He did not instruct

his

> disciples to play soccer. Beyond that, in so many ways he also instructed us

> "not to." For, if we even *try* to follow even a *fraction* of the many

direct

> instructions which he *did* give us, then we barely have time to eat or

sleep,

> what to speak of wa

 

Here, you owe one. This could be used to imply we shouldn't play soccer if

you

felt strongly to make such a case.

 

Although we are part and parcel of God, mamaiväàço jéva-bhütaù, because we

have cyuta, fallen down from our spiritual atmosphere... Just like spiritual

atmosphere, Kåñëa’s friends, cowherd boys, they’re playing with Kåñëa. That

is also playing. And here in this material world the boys they also play

football play. But these two plays are different. One is spiritual and

another is material.

9/14/76 VRNDAVAN

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On 17 Dec 1999, Madhava Gosh wrote:

 

> Here, you owe one. This could be used to imply we shouldn't play soccer if

> you

> felt strongly to make such a case.

>

> Although we are part and parcel of God, mamaiväàço jéva-bhütaù, because we

> have cyuta, fallen down from our spiritual atmosphere... Just like spiritual

> atmosphere, Kåñëa's friends, cowherd boys, they're playing with Kåñëa. That

> is also playing. And here in this material world the boys they also play

> football play. But these two plays are different. One is spiritual and

> another is material.

> 9/14/76 VRNDAVAN

 

You punted?

 

(But seriously, prabhu, I thank you for the quote.)

 

We'll run it back for a quick...v

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On 17 Dec 1999, Madhava Gosh wrote:

 

> Here, you owe one. This could be used to imply we shouldn't play soccer if

> you

> felt strongly to make such a case.

>

> Although we are part and parcel of God, mamaiväàço jéva-bhütaù, because we

> have cyuta, fallen down from our spiritual atmosphere... Just like spiritual

> atmosphere, Kåñëa's friends, cowherd boys, they're playing with Kåñëa. That

> is also playing. And here in this material world the boys they also play

> football play. But these two plays are different. One is spiritual and

> another is material.

> 9/14/76 VRNDAVAN

 

You punted?

 

(But seriously, prabhu, I thank you for the quote.)

 

We'll run it back for a quick...v

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v

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>

> > Did he ever instruct them not to?

>

> That is no answer to my question, prabhu--just a typical diversionary

> tactic, I humbly submit. But I'll answer the question for you: He did not

> instruct his disciples to play soccer. Beyond that, in so many ways he

> also instructed us "not to." For, if we even *try* to follow even a

> *fraction* of the many direct instructions which he *did* give us, then we

> barely have time to eat or sleep, what to speak of wa

 

Your question is meant for zombies, that's the point.

 

If a zombi attempts to do something on his own, then you surprise

him with "have you ever been instructed to do so, my dear zombi?".

And then a zombi gets caught up, starts scratching his head, not

finding the "right" *answer*, spinning around aimlessly not knowing

what really to do next... till the programer redirects him

to somewhere that a zombi can be able to identifiy and

recognize as an already given instruction what to do.

 

How long we'll be insisting in creating a mental wracks through

such similar odd zombi programs?

 

 

- Mahanidhi das

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>

> > Did he ever instruct them not to?

>

> That is no answer to my question, prabhu--just a typical diversionary

> tactic, I humbly submit. But I'll answer the question for you: He did not

> instruct his disciples to play soccer. Beyond that, in so many ways he

> also instructed us "not to." For, if we even *try* to follow even a

> *fraction* of the many direct instructions which he *did* give us, then we

> barely have time to eat or sleep, what to speak of wa

 

Your question is meant for zombies, that's the point.

 

If a zombi attempts to do something on his own, then you surprise

him with "have you ever been instructed to do so, my dear zombi?".

And then a zombi gets caught up, starts scratching his head, not

finding the "right" *answer*, spinning around aimlessly not knowing

what really to do next... till the programer redirects him

to somewhere that a zombi can be able to identifiy and

recognize as an already given instruction what to do.

 

How long we'll be insisting in creating a mental wracks through

such similar odd zombi programs?

 

 

- Mahanidhi das

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On 16 Dec 1999, Madhava Gosh wrote:

 

> >

> >

> > In any event, I find it somewhat difficult to imagine our Vedic men-folk

heros behaving like a pack of frustrated whiners.

>

> If you have the content, then form follows naturally. If you lack the

> content, then it is necessary to whine about the necessity to follow form.

>

>

 

 

Yep, but at least they are whining about something a noble as Vedic culture,

however much unformed their content may be.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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On 16 Dec 1999, Madhava Gosh wrote:

 

> >

> >

> > In any event, I find it somewhat difficult to imagine our Vedic men-folk

heros behaving like a pack of frustrated whiners.

>

> If you have the content, then form follows naturally. If you lack the

> content, then it is necessary to whine about the necessity to follow form.

>

>

 

 

Yep, but at least they are whining about something a noble as Vedic culture,

however much unformed their content may be.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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>

> That is no answer to my question, prabhu--just a typical diversionary

tactic, I humbly submit. But I'll answer the question for you: He did not

instruct his disciples to play soccer. Beyond that, in so many ways he also

instructed us "not to." For, if we even *try* to follow even a *fraction* of

the many direct instructions which he *did* give us, then we barely have time

to eat or sleep, what to speak of wa

 

 

 

 

 

snore.......

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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>

> That is no answer to my question, prabhu--just a typical diversionary

tactic, I humbly submit. But I'll answer the question for you: He did not

instruct his disciples to play soccer. Beyond that, in so many ways he also

instructed us "not to." For, if we even *try* to follow even a *fraction* of

the many direct instructions which he *did* give us, then we barely have time

to eat or sleep, what to speak of wa

 

 

 

 

 

snore.......

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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> >

> > If you have the content, then form follows naturally. If you lack the

> > content, then it is necessary to whine about the necessity to follow form.

> >

> >

>

> Yep, but at least they are whining about something a noble as Vedic culture,

> however much unformed their content may be.

>

 

Granted. Just a question of balance though.

 

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>

> >

> > If you have the content, then form follows naturally. If you lack the

> > content, then it is necessary to whine about the necessity to follow form.

> >

> >

>

> Yep, but at least they are whining about something a noble as Vedic culture,

> however much unformed their content may be.

>

 

Granted. Just a question of balance though.

 

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