Sat and Rahu together(Shrapit) - Chandrashekar Ji

October 8, 2003

Dear Chandrashekar ji ,Weiss ji and other respected members

Inspite of having learned from the basics, one(the beginners!) tends

to assume reults based on stand alone placements and yogas,without

considering factors like, Position, Aspects,Rulership Nature etc.

That too when the author of an article explains things with well

crafted examples!Such was the case, shrapit yoga article,the author

trying to impose or generalise his trial and error experience.

Thanks for the right guidance.

Chandrashekar ji, I had a chance to look at your chart from the SJC

files section, while trying to understand this Rahu/Mars/Saturn

Conjunction.My understandings will be more or less of an elementary

level, as you are aware of the depth of my knowledge :-)

As per Jataka Chandrika Rahu or Ketu gives good results if they join

trikona lords in kendra.In your case Mars is a trikona lord.Saturn is

the lord of the 2nd and third houses(thereby lording kutumba

stana).Again as you have said before, 'Sthana rakshathi

Mandaha',Saturn should protect the house in which it is placed,

kalathra bhava in your case.Thus Rahu,Saturn and Mars can give good

results.Also it is being aspected by jupiter the ascendant lord from

labha sthana,forming Guru Mangala as well.Moreover a Gajakesari yoga

and Dharma karma adhipati yoga are also present in the chart.Jupiter

is aspecting Puthrasthana,thereby helping progeny.Some of these are

repeating in Navamsa as well.If you have time teach me to analyse

more :-)

This helps one to understand that one should not go by stand alone

placement or aspect based yogas, and assume results.

I have one similar question here,which i had asked before,ie Brahmin

Shapa.I have read that if Jupiter is being aspected by Saturn or

Mars ,there is a Brahmina Shapa.In that case what is the difference

between Guru Mangala and Brahmin shapa? So are there more factors to

be considered.

Thanks and respect

Pradeep

vedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar Sharma"

<boxdel> wrote:

> Dear Shriram,

> Thank you for remembering my chart.I am not clear as to why you

think Aries

> should be the navamsha Lagna. This would place Venus n 11th from

Karakamsha

> and the indications do not match. Well that is besides the thread.

> The reason I posed the question is to know opinion as to why Saturn

Rahu

> should form a shrapit dosha/yoga? I have laready explained how the

yoga

> would work. I know that Rahu is associated with Sarpa, but you

might find it

> interesting to read opinion of Acharya Varaha Mihira on this in his

Brihat

> Samhita.

> Regards,

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> Shriram Srinivasan [shris1]

> Saturday, October 04, 2003 11:55 AM

> vedic astrology

> [vedic astrology] Re: Sat ® and Rahu together in

Second house

>

> Dear Chandrashekar,

> I remember your chart (that in posed in the

list

> a long time before). The strong parivartana (vargottam

parivartana)

> between 2nd lord Saturn and 7th Lord Mercury (The two strongest

> planets in your chart) has changed things. This parvartana

involves

> your 10th & 2nd lord as well!!

>

> I still think that Venus should be in Navamsa lagna (which means

> Navamsa Lagna should be Aries instead of Taurus).

>

> kind regards,

> Shriram

>

> vedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar Sharma"

> <boxdel> wrote:

> > Dear Jay, Dileep and other learned astrologers,

> > I have been reading about the terrible effects of Saturn Rahu

and

> Mars Rahu

> > yogas. I have Saturn Mars and Rahu in 7th,nodoubt receiving

aspect of

> > Jupiter, but have neither progeny related nor marital

problems.We are in

> > 30th year of our marriage and my Son works with me.He was born 2

> years after

> > my marriage.

> > Could some one explain the logic behind the yoga? Rahu acts as

> Saturn when

> > alone"Manda sama Rahu" and his association with Saturn would,

> logically give

> > results similar to Saturn. So my question is why should the

yoga be

> depicted

> > as a terrible yoga, irrespective to refference to House in

which the

> yoga

> > occurs ans without considering house lordship of planets

involved?

> > Regards,

> > Chandrashekhar.

> >

> > drdilip@s... [drdilip@s...]

> > Friday, October 03, 2003 1:19 PM

> > vedic astrology

> > Re: [vedic astrology] Sat ® and Rahu together in

Second

> house

> >

> > II OM HREEM DUM DURGAYAI NAMAH II

> >

> > Dear Jay,

> > Namaste,

> >

> > I have read the article of your reference to Kaimal ji. The

> astrologer,

> > who had written it, had given some examples, and portrayed a

horrible

> > picture of the Yoga. I have this yoga in my rasi chart in the

2nd

> house in

> > scorpio. This combination is aspected by exalted and retrograde

> Jupiter from

> > 10th house ( both Rasi drishti & Graha Drishti ) and by

Lagnadhipati

> Venus

> > from 8th house ( Graha Drishti).I am now running 48th year of my

> life. At

> > least some terrible thing should have happened in my. With the

Grace of

> > God, it has been sailing smoothly so far. I think, the aspect of

> Jupiter has

> > made all the difference. This is a general understanding that

the

> aspect of

> > Jupiter to Rahu ( or any planet ), tones down the maleficience.

If

> this is

> > the case, why jupiter does not tones down the virulence of such

a

> > combination?

> >

> > I think, Gurus and learned members can enlighten us more about

> this yoga.

> >

> > Warm regards

> > Dilip Banerjee.

> >

> > -

> > J. Weiss

> > vedic astrology

> > Friday, October 03, 2003 10:44 AM

> > Re: [vedic astrology] Sat ® and Rahu together in

> Second house

> >

> > Dear Kaimal,

> > The answer is NO and therefore I referred you to the

article as

> I was

> > looking for some material as well (due to a chart that I

have).

> > I have my doubts as well due to the fact that even a very

tight

> > conjunction

> > of Saturn/Rahu will last for a relatively long time (weeks)

with the

> > result

> > of MILLIONS of people born with this combination. In my

opinion

> there

> > must

> > be more to it.

> > Furthermore, this yoga is not mentioned in any of the books

> dealing with

> > yogas that I have.

> > Maybe one of the advanced gurus (based on experience, not

only

> theory)

> > can

> > shade some light on the shrapit Yoga.

> > "I rest my case"...

> >

> > Regards

> > Jay Weiss

> >

> > -

> > "SRCKaimal" <srckaimal@a...>

> > <vedic astrology>

> > Friday, October 03, 2003 5:45 AM

> > Re: [vedic astrology] Sat ® and Rahu together in

> Second house

> >

> > > Dear Shri.Jay Weiss,

> > > I went through the article but many doubts remain.If you

have

> studied

> > the

> > > Yoga and its effects,please let us know.For this Yoga to

be

> > effective,is

> > it

> > > enough Saturn and Rahu are in the same sign or have they

to be

> close

> > with

> > in

> > > certain degrees?For Aquarius Lagna,if Saturn and Rahu are

in

> Leo,is

> > the

> > yoga

> > > present?Will its evil effects be mitigated by the

presence of

> Venus in

> > the

> > > 9th in Libra?If not how it will manifest.

> > > Kindly let me know what you think.

> > > Regards

> > > Kaimal

> > > -

> > > J. Weiss <jayhw@t...>

> > > <vedic astrology>

> > > Friday, October 03, 2003 2:30 AM

> > > Re: [vedic astrology] Sat ® and Rahu together

in Second

> > house

> > >

> > > > Dear KPK

> > > > As to your first question: read the article at

> > > > http://www.hinduastrology.com/articles/shrapit.asp

> > > > Regards

> > > > Jay Weiss

> > > >

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October 9, 2003

Dear Pradeep,

You have understood the logic behind hora very well.As to Bramhana Shapa and for

that matter other shapas, I have a sloghtly different point of view.I think that

the shapas being of previous birth, one will have to get their phala when the

time becomes right. This is part of destiny and I personally do not like to be

obssessed by them. Guru Shani aspects usually give a understanding of Adhyatma

and Guru Mangal aspect can give one Mark of Shiva, certainly an auspicious

happening.In light of this , I personally feel that shapas are seen very

casually without looking in to the saptavargaj Bala of the planets. Shapas if

really effective are difficult to get rid of as they form part of Dhrudhamula

Karma. Jyotish being the science of giving succour to those ho are in

difficulty, one's knowing about some problem to which there is no solution, to

me is infructious.

One might find my logic difficult to digest. Look at it this way, Raja Dashrath

had to suffer Putra Dukkha on account of Shapa he received and though Rama was

God incarnate he could not remove the effects of teh shapa. Puranas are replete

with examples of such shapas and their effects.

Of course this is my personal opinion and other more learned than me may hold different opinions.

Chandrashekhar.

vijayadas_pradeep

[vijayadas_pradeep ]Wednesday, October 08, 2003 8:08

PMvedic astrologySubject: [vedic astrology] Sat and Rahu

together(Shrapit) - Chandrashekar JiDear Chandrashekar ji ,Weiss ji and other

respected membersInspite of having learned from the basics, one(the beginners!)

tends to assume reults based on stand alone placements and yogas,without

considering factors like, Position, Aspects,Rulership Nature etc. That too when

the author of an article explains things with well crafted examples!Such was the

case, shrapit yoga article,the author trying to impose or generalise his trial

and error experience.Thanks for the right guidance.Chandrashekar ji, I had a

chance to look at your chart from the SJC files section, while trying to

understand this Rahu/Mars/Saturn Conjunction.My understandings will be more or

less of an elementary level, as you are aware of the depth of my knowledge

:-)As per Jataka Chandrika Rahu or Ketu gives good results if they join trikona

lords in kendra.In your case Mars is a trikona lord.Saturn is the lord of the

2nd and third houses(thereby lording kutumba stana).Again as you have said

before, 'Sthana rakshathi Mandaha',Saturn should protect the house in which it

is placed, kalathra bhava in your case.Thus Rahu,Saturn and Mars can give good

results.Also it is being aspected by jupiter the ascendant lord from labha

sthana,forming Guru Mangala as well.Moreover a Gajakesari yoga and Dharma karma

adhipati yoga are also present in the chart.Jupiter is aspecting

Puthrasthana,thereby helping progeny.Some of these are repeating in Navamsa as

well.If you have time teach me to analyse more :-)This helps one to understand

that one should not go by stand alone placement or aspect based yogas, and

assume results. I have one similar question here,which i had asked before,ie

Brahmin Shapa.I have read that if Jupiter is being aspected by Saturn or Mars

,there is a Brahmina Shapa.In that case what is the difference between Guru

Mangala and Brahmin shapa? So are there more factors to be considered.Thanks

and respectPradeepvedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar

Sharma" <boxdel> wrote:> Dear Shriram,> Thank you for remembering my

chart.I am not clear as to why you think Aries> should be the navamsha Lagna.

This would place Venus n 11th from Karakamsha> and the indications do not

match. Well that is besides the thread.> The reason I posed the question is to

know opinion as to why Saturn Rahu> should form a shrapit dosha/yoga? I have

laready explained how the yoga> would work. I know that Rahu is associated with

Sarpa, but you might find it> interesting to read opinion of Acharya Varaha

Mihira on this in his Brihat> Samhita.> Regards,> Chandrashekhar.>

> Shriram Srinivasan [shris1]>

Saturday, October 04, 2003 11:55 AM> To:

vedic astrology> [vedic astrology] Re: Sat ® and

Rahu together in Second house> > > Dear Chandrashekar,>

I remember your chart (that in posed in the list> a long time before). The

strong parivartana (vargottam parivartana)> between 2nd lord Saturn and 7th

Lord Mercury (The two strongest> planets in your chart) has changed things.

This parvartana involves> your 10th & 2nd lord as well!!> > I still think

that Venus should be in Navamsa lagna (which means> Navamsa Lagna should be

Aries instead of Taurus).> > kind regards,> Shriram> > --- In

vedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar Sharma"> <boxdel>

wrote:> > Dear Jay, Dileep and other learned astrologers,> > I have been

reading about the terrible effects of Saturn Rahu and> Mars Rahu> > yogas.

I have Saturn Mars and Rahu in 7th,nodoubt receiving aspect of> > Jupiter,

but have neither progeny related nor marital problems.We are in> > 30th year

of our marriage and my Son works with me.He was born 2> years after> > my

marriage.> > Could some one explain the logic behind the yoga? Rahu acts as>

Saturn when> > alone"Manda sama Rahu" and his association with Saturn would,>

logically give> > results similar to Saturn. So my question is why should

the yoga be> depicted> > as a terrible yoga, irrespective to refference to

House in which the> yoga> > occurs ans without considering house lordship

of planets involved?> > Regards,> > Chandrashekhar.> > -----Original

Message-----> > drdilip@s... [drdilip@s...]> > Sent:

Friday, October 03, 2003 1:19 PM> > vedic astrology>

> Re: [vedic astrology] Sat ® and Rahu together in Second>

house> >> >> > II OM HREEM DUM DURGAYAI NAMAH II> >> > Dear

Jay,> > Namaste,> >> > I have read the article of your reference to

Kaimal ji. The> astrologer,> > who had written it, had given some examples,

and portrayed a horrible> > picture of the Yoga. I have this yoga in my rasi

chart in the 2nd> house in> > scorpio. This combination is aspected by

exalted and retrograde> Jupiter from> > 10th house ( both Rasi drishti &

Graha Drishti ) and by Lagnadhipati> Venus> > from 8th house ( Graha

Drishti).I am now running 48th year of my> life. At> > least some terrible

thing should have happened in my. With the Grace of> > God, it has been

sailing smoothly so far. I think, the aspect of> Jupiter has> > made all

the difference. This is a general understanding that the> aspect of> >

Jupiter to Rahu ( or any planet ), tones down the maleficience. If> this is>

> the case, why jupiter does not tones down the virulence of such a> >

combination?> >> > I think, Gurus and learned members can enlighten us

more about> this yoga.> >> > Warm regards> > Dilip Banerjee.> >>

> -> > J. Weiss> > To:

vedic astrology> > Friday, October 03, 2003 10:44

AM> > Re: [vedic astrology] Sat ® and Rahu together in>

Second house> >> >> > Dear Kaimal,> > The answer is NO and

therefore I referred you to the article as> I was> > looking for some

material as well (due to a chart that I have).> > I have my doubts as

well due to the fact that even a very tight> > conjunction> > of

Saturn/Rahu will last for a relatively long time (weeks) with the> > result>

> of MILLIONS of people born with this combination. In my opinion> there>

> must> > be more to it.> > Furthermore, this yoga is not

mentioned in any of the books> dealing with> > yogas that I have.> >

Maybe one of the advanced gurus (based on experience, not only> theory)>

> can> > shade some light on the shrapit Yoga.> > "I rest my

case"...> >> > Regards> > Jay Weiss> >> >> >> >> >> >

-> > "SRCKaimal" <srckaimal@a...>>

> <vedic astrology>> > Friday, October 03,

2003 5:45 AM> > Re: [vedic astrology] Sat ® and Rahu together

in> Second house> >> >> > > Dear Shri.Jay Weiss,> > > I went

through the article but many doubts remain.If you have> studied> > the> >

> Yoga and its effects,please let us know.For this Yoga to be> >

effective,is> > it> > > enough Saturn and Rahu are in the same sign

or have they to be> close> > with> > in> > > certain degrees?For

Aquarius Lagna,if Saturn and Rahu are in> Leo,is> > the> > yoga> >

> present?Will its evil effects be mitigated by the presence of> Venus in>

> the> > > 9th in Libra?If not how it will manifest.> > > Kindly let

me know what you think.> > > Regards> > > Kaimal> > > -----

Original Message -----> > > J. Weiss <jayhw@t...>> > > To:

<vedic astrology>> > > Friday, October 03, 2003

2:30 AM> > > Re: [vedic astrology] Sat ® and Rahu together in

Second> > house> > >> > >> > > > Dear KPK> > > > As

to your first question: read the article at> > > >

http://www.hinduastrology.com/articles/shrapit.asp> > > > Regards> >

> > Jay Weiss> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> >

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October 10, 2003

Dear Chandra shekhar ji

Thanks for the reply.If at all i have grasped a bit of basic

principles of hora,then it is due to the company of learned and

respected members in .I consider this as a 'mun janma

sukrutham' (good deeds of past or ancestors) to be in company with

you all.Another saying is ''Mulla poompodi eyttu kidakkum kallinum

undamoru Saurabhyam'' -It means even those stones which are in the

company of jasmine flower pollens would have some fragrance.

I hope the blessings of the Gurus will help me to continue this

learning, which is vast like the ocean of music.

Regarding Brahmna shapa,i was curious because some astrologers

recommend remedies or prathi vidhees.Now i have to read more about

Dhrudhamula karma ( i believe this is something which cannot be

overridden by good karmas in present life).Bhagawan Shri Ramachandra

jis example was good enough.I have seen this analysis by Sanjay ji

somewhere on the net.

Also i have read somewhere a statement from Chanakya which i am

citing as, A calf would be able to identify its mother even from a

flock of thousands of cows.Similarly One's Karmas or actions will

definitely identify him(the originator).So thus we have to accept the

reactions for our actions.Thanks for this.

Regds & Respect

Pradeep

vedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar Sharma"

<boxdel> wrote:

> Dear Pradeep,

> You have understood the logic behind hora very well.As to Bramhana

Shapa and

> for that matter other shapas, I have a sloghtly different point of

view.I

> think that the shapas being of previous birth, one will have to get

their

> phala when the time becomes right. This is part of destiny and I

personally

> do not like to be obssessed by them. Guru Shani aspects usually

give a

> understanding of Adhyatma and Guru Mangal aspect can give one Mark

of Shiva,

> certainly an auspicious happening.In light of this , I personally

feel that

> shapas are seen very casually without looking in to the saptavargaj

Bala of

> the planets. Shapas if really effective are difficult to get rid of

as they

> form part of Dhrudhamula Karma. Jyotish being the science of giving

succour

> to those ho are in difficulty, one's knowing about some problem to

which

> there is no solution, to me is infructious.

> One might find my logic difficult to digest. Look at it this way,

Raja

> Dashrath had to suffer Putra Dukkha on account of Shapa he received

and

> though Rama was God incarnate he could not remove the effects of

teh shapa.

> Puranas are replete with examples of such shapas and their effects.

> Of course this is my personal opinion and other more learned than

me may

> hold different opinions.

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> vijayadas_pradeep [vijayadas_pradeep]

> Wednesday, October 08, 2003 8:08 PM

> vedic astrology

> [vedic astrology] Sat and Rahu together(Shrapit) -

Chandrashekar

> Ji

>

> Dear Chandrashekar ji ,Weiss ji and other respected members

>

> Inspite of having learned from the basics, one(the beginners!)

tends

> to assume reults based on stand alone placements and yogas,without

> considering factors like, Position, Aspects,Rulership Nature etc.

> That too when the author of an article explains things with well

> crafted examples!Such was the case, shrapit yoga article,the

author

> trying to impose or generalise his trial and error experience.

> Thanks for the right guidance.

>

> Chandrashekar ji, I had a chance to look at your chart from the

SJC

> files section, while trying to understand this Rahu/Mars/Saturn

> Conjunction.My understandings will be more or less of an

elementary

> level, as you are aware of the depth of my knowledge :-)

>

> As per Jataka Chandrika Rahu or Ketu gives good results if they

join

> trikona lords in kendra.In your case Mars is a trikona

lord.Saturn is

> the lord of the 2nd and third houses(thereby lording kutumba

> stana).Again as you have said before, 'Sthana rakshathi

> Mandaha',Saturn should protect the house in which it is placed,

> kalathra bhava in your case.Thus Rahu,Saturn and Mars can give

good

> results.Also it is being aspected by jupiter the ascendant lord

from

> labha sthana,forming Guru Mangala as well.Moreover a Gajakesari

yoga

> and Dharma karma adhipati yoga are also present in the

chart.Jupiter

> is aspecting Puthrasthana,thereby helping progeny.Some of these

are

> repeating in Navamsa as well.If you have time teach me to analyse

> more :-)

>

> This helps one to understand that one should not go by stand alone

> placement or aspect based yogas, and assume results.

>

> I have one similar question here,which i had asked before,ie

Brahmin

> Shapa.I have read that if Jupiter is being aspected by Saturn or

> Mars ,there is a Brahmina Shapa.In that case what is the

difference

> between Guru Mangala and Brahmin shapa? So are there more factors

to

> be considered.

>

> Thanks and respect

> Pradeep

>

> vedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar Sharma"

> <boxdel> wrote:

> > Dear Shriram,

> > Thank you for remembering my chart.I am not clear as to why you

> think Aries

> > should be the navamsha Lagna. This would place Venus n 11th from

> Karakamsha

> > and the indications do not match. Well that is besides the

thread.

> > The reason I posed the question is to know opinion as to why

Saturn

> Rahu

> > should form a shrapit dosha/yoga? I have laready explained how

the

> yoga

> > would work. I know that Rahu is associated with Sarpa, but you

> might find it

> > interesting to read opinion of Acharya Varaha Mihira on this in

his

> Brihat

> > Samhita.

> > Regards,

> > Chandrashekhar.

> >

> > Shriram Srinivasan [shris1]

> > Saturday, October 04, 2003 11:55 AM

> > vedic astrology

> > [vedic astrology] Re: Sat ® and Rahu together in

> Second house

> >

> > Dear Chandrashekar,

> > I remember your chart (that in posed in

the

> list

> > a long time before). The strong parivartana (vargottam

> parivartana)

> > between 2nd lord Saturn and 7th Lord Mercury (The two

strongest

> > planets in your chart) has changed things. This parvartana

> involves

> > your 10th & 2nd lord as well!!

> >

> > I still think that Venus should be in Navamsa lagna (which

means

> > Navamsa Lagna should be Aries instead of Taurus).

> >

> > kind regards,

> > Shriram

> >

> > vedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar

Sharma"

> > <boxdel> wrote:

> > > Dear Jay, Dileep and other learned astrologers,

> > > I have been reading about the terrible effects of Saturn

Rahu

> and

> > Mars Rahu

> > > yogas. I have Saturn Mars and Rahu in 7th,nodoubt receiving

> aspect of

> > > Jupiter, but have neither progeny related nor marital

> problems.We are in

> > > 30th year of our marriage and my Son works with me.He was

born 2

> > years after

> > > my marriage.

> > > Could some one explain the logic behind the yoga? Rahu acts

as

> > Saturn when

> > > alone"Manda sama Rahu" and his association with Saturn

would,

> > logically give

> > > results similar to Saturn. So my question is why should the

> yoga be

> > depicted

> > > as a terrible yoga, irrespective to refference to House in

> which the

> > yoga

> > > occurs ans without considering house lordship of planets

> involved?

> > > Regards,

> > > Chandrashekhar.

> > >

> > > drdilip@s... [drdilip@s...]

> > > Friday, October 03, 2003 1:19 PM

> > > vedic astrology

> > > Re: [vedic astrology] Sat ® and Rahu together

in

> Second

> > house

> > >

> > > II OM HREEM DUM DURGAYAI NAMAH II

> > >

> > > Dear Jay,

> > > Namaste,

> > >

> > > I have read the article of your reference to Kaimal ji.

The

> > astrologer,

> > > who had written it, had given some examples, and portrayed a

> horrible

> > > picture of the Yoga. I have this yoga in my rasi chart in

the

> 2nd

> > house in

> > > scorpio. This combination is aspected by exalted and

retrograde

> > Jupiter from

> > > 10th house ( both Rasi drishti & Graha Drishti ) and by

> Lagnadhipati

> > Venus

> > > from 8th house ( Graha Drishti).I am now running 48th year

of my

> > life. At

> > > least some terrible thing should have happened in my. With

the

> Grace of

> > > God, it has been sailing smoothly so far. I think, the

aspect of

> > Jupiter has

> > > made all the difference. This is a general understanding

that

> the

> > aspect of

> > > Jupiter to Rahu ( or any planet ), tones down the

maleficience.

> If

> > this is

> > > the case, why jupiter does not tones down the virulence of

such

> a

> > > combination?

> > >

> > > I think, Gurus and learned members can enlighten us more

about

> > this yoga.

> > >

> > > Warm regards

> > > Dilip Banerjee.

> > >

> > > -

> > > J. Weiss

> > > vedic astrology

> > > Friday, October 03, 2003 10:44 AM

> > > Re: [vedic astrology] Sat ® and Rahu

together in

> > Second house

> > >

> > > Dear Kaimal,

> > > The answer is NO and therefore I referred you to the

> article as

> > I was

> > > looking for some material as well (due to a chart that I

> have).

> > > I have my doubts as well due to the fact that even a

very

> tight

> > > conjunction

> > > of Saturn/Rahu will last for a relatively long time

(weeks)

> with the

> > > result

> > > of MILLIONS of people born with this combination. In my

> opinion

> > there

> > > must

> > > be more to it.

> > > Furthermore, this yoga is not mentioned in any of the

books

> > dealing with

> > > yogas that I have.

> > > Maybe one of the advanced gurus (based on experience,

not

> only

> > theory)

> > > can

> > > shade some light on the shrapit Yoga.

> > > "I rest my case"...

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Jay Weiss

> > >

> > > -

> > > "SRCKaimal" <srckaimal@a...>

> > > <vedic astrology>

> > > Friday, October 03, 2003 5:45 AM

> > > Re: [vedic astrology] Sat ® and Rahu

together in

> > Second house

> > >

> > > > Dear Shri.Jay Weiss,

> > > > I went through the article but many doubts remain.If

you

> have

> > studied

> > > the

> > > > Yoga and its effects,please let us know.For this Yoga

to

> be

> > > effective,is

> > > it

> > > > enough Saturn and Rahu are in the same sign or have

they

> to be

> > close

> > > with

> > > in

> > > > certain degrees?For Aquarius Lagna,if Saturn and Rahu

are

> in

> > Leo,is

> > > the

> > > yoga

> > > > present?Will its evil effects be mitigated by the

> presence of

> > Venus in

> > > the

> > > > 9th in Libra?If not how it will manifest.

> > > > Kindly let me know what you think.

> > > > Regards

> > > > Kaimal

> > > > -

> > > > J. Weiss <jayhw@t...>

> > > > <vedic astrology>

> > > > Friday, October 03, 2003 2:30 AM

> > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Sat ® and Rahu

together

> in Second

> > > house

> > > >

> > > > > Dear KPK

> > > > > As to your first question: read the article at

> > > > > http://www.hinduastrology.com/articles/shrapit.asp

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Jay Weiss

> > > > >

> > > >

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