Guest guest Posted July 2, 2003 Report Share Posted July 2, 2003 Respected members If a debiliated jupiter (Jupiter in capricorn) in lagna is present,can it still give some luck to the individual.I have found this from a chart.Can this jupiter still bless the houses which it aspects. Thanks Pradeep **************************************************************************** The content of this e-mail is intended only for the confidential use of the person addressed. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by electronic mail, by telephone or by fax at the above num- bers. E-mail communications are not secure and therefore we do not accept any res- ponsibility for the confidentiality or altered contents of this message. Please be aware that SIS Group and its subsidiary companies cannot accept any orders or other legally binding correspondence with a participant as part of an E-mail. The views expressed above are not necessarily those held by SIS Group and its subsidiary companies and not binding for them. ************************************************************************exfe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2003 Report Share Posted July 2, 2003 ---Om Brihaspataye Namah--- Dear Pradeep, Yes, it can give luck to the individual and such an individual shall never be short of money or fulfillment of needs. The question is why? regards Hari vedic astrology, "Vijayadas, Pradeep Kumar" <PradeepKumar.Vijayadas@s...> wrote: > Respected members > > If a debiliated jupiter (Jupiter in capricorn) in lagna is present,can > it still give some luck to the individual.I have found this from a > chart.Can this jupiter still bless the houses which it aspects. > > Thanks > Pradeep > > > ********************************************************************* ******* > The content of this e-mail is intended only for the confidential use of the > person addressed. If you have received this message in error, please notify > us immediately by electronic mail, by telephone or by fax at the above num- > bers. > > E-mail communications are not secure and therefore we do not accept any res- > ponsibility for the confidentiality or altered contents of this message. > > Please be aware that SIS Group and its subsidiary companies cannot accept > any orders or other legally binding correspondence with a participant as > part of an E-mail. The views expressed above are not necessarily those held > by SIS Group and its subsidiary companies and not binding for them. > ********************************************************************* ***exfe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2003 Report Share Posted July 2, 2003 Dear Hari My interpretation of this position was ,debiliation will harm the house it rules and aspects.The individual was unable to grab some good opportunities in life ,though has good position in society,but what you had told is right,never short of money and other needs.Hence the question.This individual has no faith in god after child hood. Moreover I have found there is saturn and venus present in the third house in pisces.hence I believe there is a neecha bhanga as well due to parivartan??( jupiter in capricorn and saturn in pisces ). Thanks Pradeep onlyhari [onlyhari] Mittwoch, 2. Juli 2003 14:25 vedic astrology [vedic astrology] Re: Debiliated Jupiter in LAGNA. ---Om Brihaspataye Namah--- Dear Pradeep, Yes, it can give luck to the individual and such an individual shall never be short of money or fulfillment of needs. The question is why? regards Hari vedic astrology, "Vijayadas, Pradeep Kumar" <PradeepKumar.Vijayadas@s...> wrote: > Respected members > > If a debiliated jupiter (Jupiter in capricorn) in lagna is present,can > it still give some luck to the individual.I have found this from a > chart.Can this jupiter still bless the houses which it aspects. > > Thanks > Pradeep > > > ********************************************************************* ******* > The content of this e-mail is intended only for the confidential use of the > person addressed. If you have received this message in error, please notify > us immediately by electronic mail, by telephone or by fax at the above num- > bers. > > E-mail communications are not secure and therefore we do not accept any res- > ponsibility for the confidentiality or altered contents of this message. > > Please be aware that SIS Group and its subsidiary companies cannot accept > any orders or other legally binding correspondence with a participant as > part of an E-mail. The views expressed above are not necessarily those held > by SIS Group and its subsidiary companies and not binding for them. > ********************************************************************* ***exfe Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2003 Report Share Posted July 2, 2003 JAYA JAGANNATHA! Dear Pradeep, Namaste. > Respected members > > If a debiliated jupiter (Jupiter in capricorn) in lagna is present,can > it still give some luck to the individual.I have found this from a > chart.Can this jupiter still bless the houses which it aspects. > > Thanks > Pradeep The glance of Jupiter is always auspicious, however in this case he is very weak, unless some neechabhanga yogas are present. Plus he is lord of two dusthanas (3rd and 12th house), therefore he is capable only of giving vipareeta Rajayoga, if conjoined by any other dusthana lord (mercury or Sun in this case). Yours, Gauranga das > > > **************************************************************************** > The content of this e-mail is intended only for the confidential use of the > person addressed. If you have received this message in error, please notify > us immediately by electronic mail, by telephone or by fax at the above num- > bers. > > E-mail communications are not secure and therefore we do not accept any res- > ponsibility for the confidentiality or altered contents of this message. > > Please be aware that SIS Group and its subsidiary companies cannot accept > any orders or other legally binding correspondence with a participant as > part of an E-mail. The views expressed above are not necessarily those held > by SIS Group and its subsidiary companies and not binding for them. > ************************************************************************exfe > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > GIF89a > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2003 Report Share Posted July 2, 2003 Dear Gauranga jee Namaste Thanks for the information. The chart belongs to an elderly person.I am learning astrology.So I will try to analylse and learn why specific results has happened. pradeep Gauranga Das [gauranga] Mittwoch, 2. Juli 2003 16:13 vedic astrology Re: [vedic astrology] Debiliated Jupiter in LAGNA. JAYA JAGANNATHA! Dear Pradeep, Namaste. > Respected members > > If a debiliated jupiter (Jupiter in capricorn) in lagna is present,can > it still give some luck to the individual.I have found this from a > chart.Can this jupiter still bless the houses which it aspects. > > Thanks > Pradeep The glance of Jupiter is always auspicious, however in this case he is very weak, unless some neechabhanga yogas are present. Plus he is lord of two dusthanas (3rd and 12th house), therefore he is capable only of giving vipareeta Rajayoga, if conjoined by any other dusthana lord (mercury or Sun in this case). Yours, Gauranga das > > > ************************************************************************ **** > The content of this e-mail is intended only for the confidential use > of the > person addressed. If you have received this message in error, please notify > us immediately by electronic mail, by telephone or by fax at the above num- > bers. > > E-mail communications are not secure and therefore we do not accept > any res- > ponsibility for the confidentiality or altered contents of this > message. > > Please be aware that SIS Group and its subsidiary companies cannot > accept any orders or other legally binding correspondence with a > participant as part of an E-mail. The views expressed above are not > necessarily those held > by SIS Group and its subsidiary companies and not binding for them. > ************************************************************************ exfe > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > GIF89a > Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2003 Report Share Posted July 2, 2003 JAYA JAGANNATHA! Dear Pradeep, Namaste. Please check which chara karaka's place is ocuppied by Jupiter. Also, if any problems are in dharma, then the weakness of Jupiter in Navamsa should be studied for this. If there's weeknesses in other areas, then Jupiter's position in D-30 should be analysed. Shiv Pujan has given a noice article with remedies in the Varga Chakra book. Yours, Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer gauranga Jyotish Remedies: WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET Phone:+36-309-140-839 - "Vijayadas, Pradeep Kumar" <PradeepKumar.Vijaya> <vedic astrology> Wednesday, July 02, 2003 5:13 PM RE: [vedic astrology] Debiliated Jupiter in LAGNA. > Dear Gauranga jee > > Namaste > Thanks for the information. > The chart belongs to an elderly person.I am learning astrology.So I will > try to analylse and learn why specific results has happened. > > pradeep > > > > Gauranga Das [gauranga] > Mittwoch, 2. Juli 2003 16:13 > vedic astrology > Re: [vedic astrology] Debiliated Jupiter in LAGNA. > > > JAYA JAGANNATHA! > > Dear Pradeep, > > Namaste. > > > Respected members > > > > If a debiliated jupiter (Jupiter in capricorn) in lagna is present,can > > > it still give some luck to the individual.I have found this from a > > chart.Can this jupiter still bless the houses which it aspects. > > > > Thanks > > Pradeep > > The glance of Jupiter is always auspicious, however in this case he is > very weak, unless some neechabhanga yogas are present. Plus he is lord > of two dusthanas (3rd and 12th house), therefore he is capable only of > giving vipareeta Rajayoga, if conjoined by any other dusthana lord > (mercury or Sun in this case). > > Yours, > > Gauranga das > > > > > > > > > > ************************************************************************ > **** > > The content of this e-mail is intended only for the confidential use > > of > the > > person addressed. If you have received this message in error, please > notify > > us immediately by electronic mail, by telephone or by fax at the above > num- > > bers. > > > > E-mail communications are not secure and therefore we do not accept > > any > res- > > ponsibility for the confidentiality or altered contents of this > > message. > > > > Please be aware that SIS Group and its subsidiary companies cannot > > accept any orders or other legally binding correspondence with a > > participant as part of an E-mail. The views expressed above are not > > necessarily those > held > > by SIS Group and its subsidiary companies and not binding for them. > > > ************************************************************************ > exfe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GIF89a > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > GIF89a > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2003 Report Share Posted July 2, 2003 Dear Guru's Yeah I too had read somewhere in list before that for a capri lagna natives, a debiliated Guru in lagna is more favourable for them than a exalted Guru in the 7th. Why is that though Guru cause the famous Mahapurusha Yoga in the 7th but it's still better to have Guru deb. in lagna?? Can anyone enlighten please? Thanks Mofie onlyhari wrote: ---Om Brihaspataye Namah--- Dear Pradeep, Yes, it can give luck to the individual and such an individual shall never be short of money or fulfillment of needs. The question is why? regards Hari vedic astrology, "Vijayadas, Pradeep Kumar" <PradeepKumar.Vijayadas@s...> wrote: > Respected members > > If a debiliated jupiter (Jupiter in capricorn) in lagna is present,can > it still give some luck to the individual.I have found this from a > chart.Can this jupiter still bless the houses which it aspects. > > Thanks > Pradeep > > > ********************************************************************* ******* > The content of this e-mail is intended only for the confidential use of the > person addressed. If you have received this message in error, please notify > us immediately by electronic mail, by telephone or by fax at the above num- > bers. > > E-mail communications are not secure and therefore we do not accept any res- > ponsibility for the confidentiality or altered contents of this message. > > Please be aware that SIS Group and its subsidiary companies cannot accept > any orders or other legally binding correspondence with a participant as > part of an E-mail. The views expressed above are not necessarily those held > by SIS Group and its subsidiary companies and not binding for them. > ********************************************************************* ***exfe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2003 Report Share Posted July 2, 2003 JAYA JAGANNATHA! Dear Mofie, Namaste. I do not agree with this in principle, although Mahapurusha yogas undoubtedly get modified by the placement of the houses lorded by the Yoga Karak. In this case Jupiter is still dusthana lord. A general observation I would make is a debilitated benefic indicated difficulties that the native should overcome, hence he will develop in hcaracter by that. An exalted benefic however indicates some pious karma from past life, the results oif which he is already enjoying. So he may not necessarily develop so much. Yours, Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer gauranga (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net Jyotish Remedies: WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET Phone:+36-309-140-839 - Mofie Augustine vedic astrology Wednesday, July 02, 2003 7:04 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Debiliated Jupiter in LAGNA. Dear Guru'sYeah I too had read somewhere in list before that for a capri lagna natives, a debiliated Guru in lagna is morefavourable for them than a exalted Guru in the 7th. Why is that though Guru cause the famous MahapurushaYoga in the 7th but it's still better to have Guru deb. in lagna?? Can anyone enlighten please?Thanks Mofieonlyhari wrote: ---Om Brihaspataye Namah---Dear Pradeep,Yes, it can give luck to the individual and such an individual shall never be short of money or fulfillment of needs.The question is why?regardsHarivedic astrology, "Vijayadas, Pradeep Kumar" <PradeepKumar.Vijayadas@s...> wrote:> Respected members> > If a debiliated jupiter (Jupiter in capricorn) in lagna is present,can> it still give some luck to the individual.I have found this from a> chart.Can this jupiter still bless the houses which it aspects.> > Thanks> Pradeep> > > ****************************************************************************> The content of this e-mail is intended only for the confidential use of the> person addressed. If you have received this message in error, please notify> us immediately by electronic mail, by telephone or by fax at the above num-> bers.> > E-mail communications are not secure and therefore we do not accept any res-> ponsibility for the confidentiality or altered contents of this message.> > Please be aware that SIS Group and its subsidiary companies cannot accept> any orders or other legally binding correspondence with a participant as> part of an E-mail. The views expressed above are not necessarily those held> by SIS Group and its subsidiary companies and not binding for them.> ************************************************************************exfeArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2003 Report Share Posted July 2, 2003 Om Namo Narayanaya, Dear Kumar, See Bhavarth Ratnakar, Guru in Capricorn lagna will be in 2nd house counted from his sign dhanu and in 11th house from his sign meen, hense unfavourable, though some yoga results are given. Even if Guru is in low dignity, it is still guru, hense material aspects and education will be there in case there is neecha bhanga yoga. If he is in conjunction with, surya or budh, preferably infleunceing ghati/hora lagna, there will be supreme Veepreta Yoga in case grahas are strong in Navamsa Best wishes Zoran Vijayadas, Pradeep Kumar wrote: >Respected members > >If a debiliated jupiter (Jupiter in capricorn) in lagna is present,can >it still give some luck to the individual.I have found this from a >chart.Can this jupiter still bless the houses which it aspects. > >Thanks >Pradeep > > >**************************************************************************** >The content of this e-mail is intended only for the confidential use of the >person addressed. If you have received this message in error, please notify >us immediately by electronic mail, by telephone or by fax at the above num- >bers. > >E-mail communications are not secure and therefore we do not accept any res- >ponsibility for the confidentiality or altered contents of this message. > >Please be aware that SIS Group and its subsidiary companies cannot accept >any orders or other legally binding correspondence with a participant as >part of an E-mail. The views expressed above are not necessarily those held >by SIS Group and its subsidiary companies and not binding for them. >************************************************************************exfe > > > > > > > > > >....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > >Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2003 Report Share Posted July 2, 2003 || Jaya Jagannath ||Dear Pradeep, This is one of the greatest blessing one can have. Jupiter is only weak by its placement and not evil. This shall protect the native from many hard times in his life and as usual, the graha drsti of Jupiter is termed as Amrita or necter and shall be there and this shall promote the house which are being aspected. We use the natural nature of planets in graha aspects, unless we are concerned about any yogas formed due to the lordship and placement. Best Wishes Sarajit - "Vijayadas, Pradeep Kumar" <PradeepKumar.Vijayadas (AT) sisclear (DOT) com> <vedic astrology> Wednesday, July 02, 2003 8:19 PM [vedic astrology] Debiliated Jupiter in LAGNA. > Respected members> > If a debiliated jupiter (Jupiter in capricorn) in lagna is present,can> it still give some luck to the individual.I have found this from a> chart.Can this jupiter still bless the houses which it aspects.> > Thanks> Pradeep> > > ****************************************************************************> The content of this e-mail is intended only for the confidential use of the> person addressed. If you have received this message in error, please notify> us immediately by electronic mail, by telephone or by fax at the above num-> bers.> > E-mail communications are not secure and therefore we do not accept any res-> ponsibility for the confidentiality or altered contents of this message.> > Please be aware that SIS Group and its subsidiary companies cannot accept> any orders or other legally binding correspondence with a participant as> part of an E-mail. The views expressed above are not necessarily those held> by SIS Group and its subsidiary companies and not binding for them.> ************************************************************************exfe> > > ------------------------ Sponsor ---------------------~-->> Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions.> http://us.click./Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/ySSFAA/.8XolB/TM> ---~->> > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > Your use of is subject to > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2003 Report Share Posted July 3, 2003 Dear Mofie, 3rd lord debilitates forms a raja yoga, so that is why Jupiter is preferred in lagna in capricorn. Jai Ram, Ernst Wilhelm www.vedic astrology.net Mofie Augustine [mofieA (AT) netscape (DOT) net] Wednesday, July 02, 2003 10:04 AMTo: vedic astrologySubject: Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Debiliated Jupiter in LAGNA.Dear Guru'sYeah I too had read somewhere in list before that for a capri lagna natives, a debiliated Guru in lagna is morefavourable for them than a exalted Guru in the 7th. Why is that though Guru cause the famous MahapurushaYoga in the 7th but it's still better to have Guru deb. in lagna?? Can anyone enlighten please?Thanks Mofieonlyhari wrote: ---Om Brihaspataye Namah---Dear Pradeep,Yes, it can give luck to the individual and such an individual shall never be short of money or fulfillment of needs.The question is why?regardsHarivedic astrology, "Vijayadas, Pradeep Kumar" <PradeepKumar.Vijayadas@s...> wrote:> Respected members> > If a debiliated jupiter (Jupiter in capricorn) in lagna is present,can> it still give some luck to the individual.I have found this from a> chart.Can this jupiter still bless the houses which it aspects.> > Thanks> Pradeep> > > ****************************************************************************> The content of this e-mail is intended only for the confidential use of the> person addressed. If you have received this message in error, please notify> us immediately by electronic mail, by telephone or by fax at the above num-> bers.> > E-mail communications are not secure and therefore we do not accept any res-> ponsibility for the confidentiality or altered contents of this message.> > Please be aware that SIS Group and its subsidiary companies cannot accept> any orders or other legally binding correspondence with a participant as> part of an E-mail. The views expressed above are not necessarily those held> by SIS Group and its subsidiary companies and not binding for them.> ************************************************************************exfeArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2003 Report Share Posted July 3, 2003 Dear Ernst Jee So it means, for capri lagnas third house is pisces and hence its lord jupiter if debiliated gives rise to raja yoga.Am i right.Yes the individual about whom i am speaking has got fame and position in life but there was lots of bad luck. Thanks Pradeep Ernst Wilhelm [ernst (AT) vedic astrology (DOT) net] Donnerstag, 3. Juli 2003 17:02vedic astrologySubject: RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Debiliated Jupiter in LAGNA. Dear Mofie, 3rd lord debilitates forms a raja yoga, so that is why Jupiter is preferred in lagna in capricorn. Jai Ram, Ernst Wilhelm www.vedic astrology.net Mofie Augustine [mofieA (AT) netscape (DOT) net] Wednesday, July 02, 2003 10:04 AMTo: vedic astrologySubject: Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Debiliated Jupiter in LAGNA.Dear Guru'sYeah I too had read somewhere in list before that for a capri lagna natives, a debiliated Guru in lagna is morefavourable for them than a exalted Guru in the 7th. Why is that though Guru cause the famous MahapurushaYoga in the 7th but it's still better to have Guru deb. in lagna?? Can anyone enlighten please?Thanks Mofieonlyhari wrote: ---Om Brihaspataye Namah---Dear Pradeep,Yes, it can give luck to the individual and such an individual shall never be short of money or fulfillment of needs.The question is why?regardsHarivedic astrology, "Vijayadas, Pradeep Kumar" <PradeepKumar.Vijayadas@s...> wrote:> Respected members> > If a debiliated jupiter (Jupiter in capricorn) in lagna is present,can> it still give some luck to the individual.I have found this from a> chart.Can this jupiter still bless the houses which it aspects.> > Thanks> Pradeep> > > ****************************************************************************> The content of this e-mail is intended only for the confidential use of the> person addressed. If you have received this message in error, please notify> us immediately by electronic mail, by telephone or by fax at the above num-> bers.> > E-mail communications are not secure and therefore we do not accept any res-> ponsibility for the confidentiality or altered contents of this message.> > Please be aware that SIS Group and its subsidiary companies cannot accept> any orders or other legally binding correspondence with a participant as> part of an E-mail. The views expressed above are not necessarily those held> by SIS Group and its subsidiary companies and not binding for them.> ************************************************************************exfeArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... **************************************************************************** The content of this e-mail is intended only for the confidential use of the person addressed. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by electronic mail, by telephone or by fax at the above num- bers. E-mail communications are not secure and therefore we do not accept any res- ponsibility for the confidentiality or altered contents of this message. Please be aware that SIS Group and its subsidiary companies cannot accept any orders or other legally binding correspondence with a participant as part of an E-mail. The views expressed above are not necessarily those held by SIS Group and its subsidiary companies and not binding for them. ***********************************************************************hexfe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2003 Report Share Posted July 3, 2003 Dear Mofie, mahapurusha yoga is given rise to in any of the Quadrants, and not just 7th. The reason for Jupiter's good result in debilitation is that Jupiter is said to harm the house that he is placed in (Sthana Bhrashta), in exaltation his strength increases. Again he aspects his exaltation sign when placed in debilitation, leading to beneficial effects. As a matter of fact one learned Jyotishi, Shri Katwe, was of the firm opinion that it is the debilitated planets that give rise to benefic yogas. Of course this is not a generally held opinion. Chandrashekhar. Mofie Augustine wrote: Dear Guru's Yeah I too had read somewhere in list before that for a capri lagna natives, a debiliated Guru in lagna is more favourable for them than a exalted Guru in the 7th. Why is that though Guru cause the famous Mahapurusha Yoga in the 7th but it's still better to have Guru deb. in lagna?? Can anyone enlighten please? Thanks Mofie onlyhari wrote: ---Om Brihaspataye Namah--- Dear Pradeep, Yes, it can give luck to the individual and such an individual shall never be short of money or fulfillment of needs. The question is why? regards Hari vedic astrology, "Vijayadas, Pradeep Kumar" <PradeepKumar.Vijayadas@s...> wrote: > Respected members > > If a debiliated jupiter (Jupiter in capricorn) in lagna is present,can > it still give some luck to the individual.I have found this from a > chart.Can this jupiter still bless the houses which it aspects. > > Thanks > Pradeep > > > ********************************************************************* ******* > The content of this e-mail is intended only for the confidential use of the > person addressed. If you have received this message in error, please notify > us immediately by electronic mail, by telephone or by fax at the above num- > bers. > > E-mail communications are not secure and therefore we do not accept any res- > ponsibility for the confidentiality or altered contents of this message. > > Please be aware that SIS Group and its subsidiary companies cannot accept > any orders or other legally binding correspondence with a participant as > part of an E-mail. The views expressed above are not necessarily those held > by SIS Group and its subsidiary companies and not binding for them. > ********************************************************************* ***exfe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2003 Report Share Posted July 3, 2003 Dear Pradeep, yes, so Jupiter will cause raja yoga. There is one thing that gives rise in life- inspired activity, the other is the ability to overcome any obstacles that may come in one's way. Most raja yogas indicate inspired activity that is rewarded. The other type helps us overcome anything in the way, or get rid of what would otherwise get in our way. The 3rd lord debilitated is one such yoga that helps us get rid of what is in the way. One very big thing that gets in the way of success and also wellbeing is the inability to move beyond our paridigm- a problem can only be overcome by being solved on a higher level than it originated. The 3rd lord debilited, or a planet in the 3rd being debilitated gives this quality. Generally the yogas that help give success by overcoming obstacles do not give success the easy way as can other raja yogas. Often these yogas are seen in the charts of those who became successful in difficult times or through difficult experiences. War hereos are one such example. Jai Ram, Ernst Wilhelm www.vedic astrology.net Vijayadas, Pradeep Kumar [PradeepKumar.Vijayadas (AT) sisclear (DOT) com] Thursday, July 03, 2003 8:10 AMvedic astrologySubject: RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Debiliated Jupiter in LAGNA. Dear Ernst Jee So it means, for capri lagnas third house is pisces and hence its lord jupiter if debiliated gives rise to raja yoga.Am i right.Yes the individual about whom i am speaking has got fame and position in life but there was lots of bad luck. Thanks Pradeep Ernst Wilhelm [ernst (AT) vedic astrology (DOT) net] Donnerstag, 3. Juli 2003 17:02vedic astrologySubject: RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Debiliated Jupiter in LAGNA. Dear Mofie, 3rd lord debilitates forms a raja yoga, so that is why Jupiter is preferred in lagna in capricorn. Jai Ram, Ernst Wilhelm www.vedic astrology.net Mofie Augustine [mofieA (AT) netscape (DOT) net] Wednesday, July 02, 2003 10:04 AMTo: vedic astrologySubject: Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Debiliated Jupiter in LAGNA.Dear Guru'sYeah I too had read somewhere in list before that for a capri lagna natives, a debiliated Guru in lagna is morefavourable for them than a exalted Guru in the 7th. Why is that though Guru cause the famous MahapurushaYoga in the 7th but it's still better to have Guru deb. in lagna?? Can anyone enlighten please?Thanks Mofieonlyhari wrote: ---Om Brihaspataye Namah---Dear Pradeep,Yes, it can give luck to the individual and such an individual shall never be short of money or fulfillment of needs.The question is why?regardsHarivedic astrology, "Vijayadas, Pradeep Kumar" <PradeepKumar.Vijayadas@s...> wrote:> Respected members> > If a debiliated jupiter (Jupiter in capricorn) in lagna is present,can> it still give some luck to the individual.I have found this from a> chart.Can this jupiter still bless the houses which it aspects.> > Thanks> Pradeep> > > ****************************************************************************> The content of this e-mail is intended only for the confidential use of the> person addressed. 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Guest guest Posted July 3, 2003 Report Share Posted July 3, 2003 Dear Chandrakeshar, Ernst has given a very valid thinking, 3rd, 6th and 8th lords in debilitation while Lagnesh is well placed, gives Raja Yoga see Parashara. Further, Tasmin Ucha Neecha Ve Shrimanath- Jaimini, so exalted and debilitated grahas are giver of wealth, If Guru is in Capricorn Lagna while, Shani is in own sign in kumbha, a great wealth may come Best wishes Zoran Chandrashekhar Sharma wrote: Dear Mofie, mahapurusha yoga is given rise to in any of the Quadrants, and not just 7th. The reason for Jupiter's good result in debilitation is that Jupiter is said to harm the house that he is placed in (Sthana Bhrashta), in exaltation his strength increases. Again he aspects his exaltation sign when placed in debilitation, leading to beneficial effects. As a matter of fact one learned Jyotishi, Shri Katwe, was of the firm opinion that it is the debilitated planets that give rise to benefic yogas. Of course this is not a generally held opinion. Chandrashekhar. Mofie Augustine wrote: Dear Guru's Yeah I too had read somewhere in list before that for a capri lagna natives, a debiliated Guru in lagna is more favourable for them than a exalted Guru in the 7th. Why is that though Guru cause the famous Mahapurusha Yoga in the 7th but it's still better to have Guru deb. in lagna?? Can anyone enlighten please? Thanks Mofie onlyhari wrote: ---Om Brihaspataye Namah--- Dear Pradeep, Yes, it can give luck to the individual and such an individual shall never be short of money or fulfillment of needs. The question is why? regards Hari vedic astrology , "Vijayadas, Pradeep Kumar" <PradeepKumar.Vijayadas@s...> wrote: > Respected members > > If a debiliated jupiter (Jupiter in capricorn) in lagna is present,can > it still give some luck to the individual.I have found this from a > chart.Can this jupiter still bless the houses which it aspects. > > Thanks > Pradeep > > > ********************************************************************* ******* > The content of this e-mail is intended only for the confidential use of the > person addressed. If you have received this message in error, please notify > us immediately by electronic mail, by telephone or by fax at the above num- > bers. > > E-mail communications are not secure and therefore we do not accept any res- > ponsibility for the confidentiality or altered contents of this message. > > Please be aware that SIS Group and its subsidiary companies cannot accept > any orders or other legally binding correspondence with a participant as > part of an E-mail. The views expressed above are not necessarily those held > by SIS Group and its subsidiary companies and not binding for them. > ********************************************************************* ***exfe Archives: vedic astrology Group info: vedic astrology/info.html To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- Terms of Service .. Archives: vedic astrology Group info: vedic astrology/info.html Terms of Service .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2003 Report Share Posted July 4, 2003 Dear Ernst Jee The explanation given by you is amazing.The individual about whom i was mentioning did not get success by virtue of luck.He always had obstacles and diffulties to be overcomed.But somehow even during difficult times strength and energy were there in a persistent fashion.Thus this could be attributed to the debiliated raja yoga you had mentioned. Plus another interesting thing is this individual has jyeshta nakshathra in moon rashi.I had read somewhere jyeshta people have to fight and strive hard for success. Thanks a lot. Pradeep Ernst Wilhelm [ernst (AT) vedic astrology (DOT) net] Freitag, 4. Juli 2003 05:05vedic astrologySubject: RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Debiliated Jupiter in LAGNA. Dear Pradeep, yes, so Jupiter will cause raja yoga. There is one thing that gives rise in life- inspired activity, the other is the ability to overcome any obstacles that may come in one's way. Most raja yogas indicate inspired activity that is rewarded. The other type helps us overcome anything in the way, or get rid of what would otherwise get in our way. The 3rd lord debilitated is one such yoga that helps us get rid of what is in the way. One very big thing that gets in the way of success and also wellbeing is the inability to move beyond our paridigm- a problem can only be overcome by being solved on a higher level than it originated. The 3rd lord debilited, or a planet in the 3rd being debilitated gives this quality. Generally the yogas that help give success by overcoming obstacles do not give success the easy way as can other raja yogas. Often these yogas are seen in the charts of those who became successful in difficult times or through difficult experiences. War hereos are one such example. Jai Ram, Ernst Wilhelm www.vedic astrology.net Vijayadas, Pradeep Kumar [PradeepKumar.Vijayadas (AT) sisclear (DOT) com] Thursday, July 03, 2003 8:10 AMvedic astrologySubject: RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Debiliated Jupiter in LAGNA. Dear Ernst Jee So it means, for capri lagnas third house is pisces and hence its lord jupiter if debiliated gives rise to raja yoga.Am i right.Yes the individual about whom i am speaking has got fame and position in life but there was lots of bad luck. Thanks Pradeep Ernst Wilhelm [ernst (AT) vedic astrology (DOT) net] Donnerstag, 3. Juli 2003 17:02vedic astrologySubject: RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Debiliated Jupiter in LAGNA. Dear Mofie, 3rd lord debilitates forms a raja yoga, so that is why Jupiter is preferred in lagna in capricorn. Jai Ram, Ernst Wilhelm www.vedic astrology.net Mofie Augustine [mofieA (AT) netscape (DOT) net] Wednesday, July 02, 2003 10:04 AMTo: vedic astrologySubject: Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Debiliated Jupiter in LAGNA.Dear Guru'sYeah I too had read somewhere in list before that for a capri lagna natives, a debiliated Guru in lagna is morefavourable for them than a exalted Guru in the 7th. Why is that though Guru cause the famous MahapurushaYoga in the 7th but it's still better to have Guru deb. in lagna?? Can anyone enlighten please?Thanks Mofieonlyhari wrote: ---Om Brihaspataye Namah---Dear Pradeep,Yes, it can give luck to the individual and such an individual shall never be short of money or fulfillment of needs.The question is why?regardsHarivedic astrology, "Vijayadas, Pradeep Kumar" <PradeepKumar.Vijayadas@s...> wrote:> Respected members> > If a debiliated jupiter (Jupiter in capricorn) in lagna is present,can> it still give some luck to the individual.I have found this from a> chart.Can this jupiter still bless the houses which it aspects.> > Thanks> Pradeep> > > ****************************************************************************> The content of this e-mail is intended only for the confidential use of the> person addressed. 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Guest guest Posted July 4, 2003 Report Share Posted July 4, 2003 ---Om Brihaspataye Namah--- Dear Pradeep, A lady that I know of has Ju + Ma in Cp lagna. Comforts, care, money all in adequate measure throughout this lady's life but the crucial difference here is the lady didnt have to face/overcome obstacles in order to reach that status unlike the gentleman you are mentioning about. I guess that the Ruchaka yoga is at work here and come to think of it, she also has a gajakesari yoga though I am less certain whether both yogas will fructify in her life (Ju dasha over and Ma dasha comes very late). Regarding the point about Jyestha nakshatra, I should add that your observation may be true for people born with lagna in Jyestha nakshatra also. The first half of their lives is full of troubles while the second half is probably better and happier. At least for the moon in Jyestha nakshatra, is it because the Saturn Mahadasha comes relatively early in their lives? regards Hari > Dear Ernst Jee > > The explanation given by you is amazing.The individual about whom i was > mentioning did not get success by virtue of luck.He always had obstacles > and diffulties to be overcomed.But somehow even during difficult times > strength and energy were there in a persistent fashion.Thus this could > be attributed to the debiliated raja yoga you had mentioned. > > Plus another interesting thing is this individual has jyeshta nakshathra > in moon rashi.I had read somewhere jyeshta people have to fight and > strive hard for success. > > Thanks a lot. > Pradeep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2003 Report Share Posted July 4, 2003 Dear Hari jee I am only a beginner and cannot explain the reasons.I was just trying to relate real life experiences with the classical references.May be the learned members can. Thanks Pradeep onlyhari [onlyhari] Freitag, 4. Juli 2003 10:18 vedic astrology [vedic astrology] Re: Debiliated Jupiter in LAGNA. ---Om Brihaspataye Namah--- Dear Pradeep, A lady that I know of has Ju + Ma in Cp lagna. Comforts, care, money all in adequate measure throughout this lady's life but the crucial difference here is the lady didnt have to face/overcome obstacles in order to reach that status unlike the gentleman you are mentioning about. I guess that the Ruchaka yoga is at work here and come to think of it, she also has a gajakesari yoga though I am less certain whether both yogas will fructify in her life (Ju dasha over and Ma dasha comes very late). Regarding the point about Jyestha nakshatra, I should add that your observation may be true for people born with lagna in Jyestha nakshatra also. The first half of their lives is full of troubles while the second half is probably better and happier. At least for the moon in Jyestha nakshatra, is it because the Saturn Mahadasha comes relatively early in their lives? regards Hari > Dear Ernst Jee > > The explanation given by you is amazing.The individual about whom i was > mentioning did not get success by virtue of luck.He always had obstacles > and diffulties to be overcomed.But somehow even during difficult times > strength and energy were there in a persistent fashion.Thus this could > be attributed to the debiliated raja yoga you had mentioned. > > Plus another interesting thing is this individual has jyeshta nakshathra > in moon rashi.I had read somewhere jyeshta people have to fight and > strive hard for success. > > Thanks a lot. > Pradeep Your use of is subject to **************************************************************************** The content of this e-mail is intended only for the confidential use of the person addressed. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by electronic mail, by telephone or by fax at the above num- bers. E-mail communications are not secure and therefore we do not accept any res- ponsibility for the confidentiality or altered contents of this message. Please be aware that SIS Group and its subsidiary companies cannot accept any orders or other legally binding correspondence with a participant as part of an E-mail. The views expressed above are not necessarily those held by SIS Group and its subsidiary companies and not binding for them. ************************************************************************exfe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2003 Report Share Posted July 4, 2003 Dear Zoran ji and chandrashekar ji How could be the results if there is an exchange between lagna lord and debiliated 3rd lord.eg. for Capri lagna jupiter the lord of third is in lagna and shani lord of lagna is in third.What general results can be expected because of third and lagna lords. Thanks Pradeep Zoran Radosavljevic [ahimsa (AT) NSpoint (DOT) net] Freitag, 4. Juli 2003 05:13vedic astrologySubject: Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Debiliated Jupiter in LAGNA.Dear Chandrakeshar,Ernst has given a very valid thinking, 3rd, 6th and 8th lords in debilitation while Lagnesh is well placed, gives Raja Yogasee Parashara. Further, Tasmin Ucha Neecha Ve Shrimanath- Jaimini, so exalted and debilitated grahas are giver of wealth,If Guru is in Capricorn Lagna while, Shani is in own sign in kumbha, a great wealth may comeBest wishesZoranChandrashekhar Sharma wrote: Dear Mofie,mahapurusha yoga is given rise to in any of the Quadrants, and not just 7th. The reason for Jupiter's good result in debilitation is that Jupiter is said to harm the house that he is placed in (Sthana Bhrashta), in exaltation his strength increases. Again he aspects his exaltation sign when placed in debilitation, leading to beneficial effects. As a matter of fact one learned Jyotishi, Shri Katwe, was of the firm opinion that it is the debilitated planets that give rise to benefic yogas. Of course this is not a generally held opinion.Chandrashekhar.Mofie Augustine wrote: Dear Guru'sYeah I too had read somewhere in list before that for a capri lagna natives, a debiliated Guru in lagna is morefavourable for them than a exalted Guru in the 7th. Why is that though Guru cause the famous MahapurushaYoga in the 7th but it's still better to have Guru deb. in lagna?? Can anyone enlighten please?Thanks Mofieonlyhari wrote: ---Om Brihaspataye Namah---Dear Pradeep,Yes, it can give luck to the individual and such an individual shall never be short of money or fulfillment of needs.The question is why?regardsHarivedic astrology , "Vijayadas, Pradeep Kumar" <PradeepKumar.Vijayadas@s...> wrote:> Respected members> > If a debiliated jupiter (Jupiter in capricorn) in lagna is present,can> it still give some luck to the individual.I have found this from a> chart.Can this jupiter still bless the houses which it aspects.> > Thanks> Pradeep> > > ****************************************************************************> The content of this e-mail is intended only for the confidential use of the> person addressed. If you have received this message in error, please notify> us immediately by electronic mail, by telephone or by fax at the above num-> bers.> > E-mail communications are not secure and therefore we do not accept any res-> ponsibility for the confidentiality or altered contents of this message.> > Please be aware that SIS Group and its subsidiary companies cannot accept> any orders or other legally binding correspondence with a participant as> part of an E-mail. The views expressed above are not necessarily those held> by SIS Group and its subsidiary companies and not binding for them.> ************************************************************************exfeArchives: vedic astrology Group info: vedic astrology/info.html To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......|| Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || Terms of Service .. Group info: vedic astrology/info.html To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......|| Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || Terms of Service . **************************************************************************** The content of this e-mail is intended only for the confidential use of the person addressed. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by electronic mail, by telephone or by fax at the above num- bers. E-mail communications are not secure and therefore we do not accept any res- ponsibility for the confidentiality or altered contents of this message. Please be aware that SIS Group and its subsidiary companies cannot accept any orders or other legally binding correspondence with a participant as part of an E-mail. The views expressed above are not necessarily those held by SIS Group and its subsidiary companies and not binding for them. ***********************************************************************hexfe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2003 Report Share Posted July 4, 2003 Dear Ernst, Does BPHS not attribute similar results to 3rd lord(Neither debilitated nor exalted) in 1st in chapter 24 shloka25? Chandrashekhar. Ernst Wilhelm wrote: Message Dear Pradeep, yes, so Jupiter will cause raja yoga. There is one thing that gives rise in life- inspired activity, the other is the ability to overcome any obstacles that may come in one's way. Most raja yogas indicate inspired activity that is rewarded. The other type helps us overcome anything in the way, or get rid of what would otherwise get in our way. The 3rd lord debilitated is one such yoga that helps us get rid of what is in the way. One very big thing that gets in the way of success and also wellbeing is the inability to move beyond our paridigm- a problem can only be overcome by being solved on a higher level than it originated. The 3rd lord debilited, or a planet in the 3rd being debilitated gives this quality. Generally the yogas that help give success by overcoming obstacles do not give success the easy way as can other raja yogas. Often these yogas are seen in the charts of those who became successful in difficult times or through difficult experiences. War hereos are one such example. Jai Ram, Ernst Wilhelm www.vedic astrology.net Vijayadas, Pradeep Kumar [PradeepKumar.Vijayadas (AT) sisclear (DOT) com] Thursday, July 03, 2003 8:10 AM vedic astrology RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Debiliated Jupiter in LAGNA. Dear Ernst Jee So it means, for capri lagnas third house is pisces and hence its lord jupiter if debiliated gives rise to raja yoga.Am i right.Yes the individual about whom i am speaking has got fame and position in life but there was lots of bad luck. Thanks Pradeep Ernst Wilhelm [ernst (AT) vedic astrology (DOT) net] Donnerstag, 3. Juli 2003 17:02 vedic astrology RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Debiliated Jupiter in LAGNA. Dear Mofie, 3rd lord debilitates forms a raja yoga, so that is why Jupiter is preferred in lagna in capricorn. Jai Ram, Ernst Wilhelm www.vedic astrology.net Mofie Augustine [mofieA (AT) netscape (DOT) net] Wednesday, July 02, 2003 10:04 AM vedic astrology Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Debiliated Jupiter in LAGNA. Dear Guru's Yeah I too had read somewhere in list before that for a capri lagna natives, a debiliated Guru in lagna is more favourable for them than a exalted Guru in the 7th. Why is that though Guru cause the famous Mahapurusha Yoga in the 7th but it's still better to have Guru deb. in lagna?? Can anyone enlighten please? Thanks Mofie onlyhari wrote: ---Om Brihaspataye Namah--- Dear Pradeep, Yes, it can give luck to the individual and such an individual shall never be short of money or fulfillment of needs. The question is why? regards Hari vedic astrology, "Vijayadas, Pradeep Kumar" <PradeepKumar.Vijayadas@s...> wrote: > Respected members > > If a debiliated jupiter (Jupiter in capricorn) in lagna is present,can > it still give some luck to the individual.I have found this from a > chart.Can this jupiter still bless the houses which it aspects. > > Thanks > Pradeep > > > ********************************************************************* ******* > The content of this e-mail is intended only for the confidential use of the > person addressed. If you have received this message in error, please notify > us immediately by electronic mail, by telephone or by fax at the above num- > bers. > > E-mail communications are not secure and therefore we do not accept any res- > ponsibility for the confidentiality or altered contents of this message. > > Please be aware that SIS Group and its subsidiary companies cannot accept > any orders or other legally binding correspondence with a participant as > part of an E-mail. The views expressed above are not necessarily those held > by SIS Group and its subsidiary companies and not binding for them. > ********************************************************************* ***exfe **************************************************************************** The content of this e-mail is intended only for the confidential use of the person addressed. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by electronic mail, by telephone or by fax at the above num- bers. E-mail communications are not secure and therefore we do not accept any res- ponsibility for the confidentiality or altered contents of this message. Please be aware that SIS Group and its subsidiary companies cannot accept any orders or other legally binding correspondence with a participant as part of an E-mail. The views expressed above are not necessarily those held by SIS Group and its subsidiary companies and not binding for them. ***********************************************************************hexfe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2003 Report Share Posted July 4, 2003 Dear Zoran, I thought the discussion did not mention anything about Lagnesh in strength, and was about Jupiter in Capricorn occupying Lagna. Or was I wrong? Again for Capricorn, Jupiter is also lord of the 12th. Chandrashekhar. Zoran Radosavljevic wrote: Dear Chandrakeshar, Ernst has given a very valid thinking, 3rd, 6th and 8th lords in debilitation while Lagnesh is well placed, gives Raja Yoga see Parashara. Further, Tasmin Ucha Neecha Ve Shrimanath- Jaimini, so exalted and debilitated grahas are giver of wealth, If Guru is in Capricorn Lagna while, Shani is in own sign in kumbha, a great wealth may come Best wishes Zoran Chandrashekhar Sharma wrote: Dear Mofie, mahapurusha yoga is given rise to in any of the Quadrants, and not just 7th. The reason for Jupiter's good result in debilitation is that Jupiter is said to harm the house that he is placed in (Sthana Bhrashta), in exaltation his strength increases. Again he aspects his exaltation sign when placed in debilitation, leading to beneficial effects. As a matter of fact one learned Jyotishi, Shri Katwe, was of the firm opinion that it is the debilitated planets that give rise to benefic yogas. Of course this is not a generally held opinion. Chandrashekhar. Mofie Augustine wrote: Dear Guru's Yeah I too had read somewhere in list before that for a capri lagna natives, a debiliated Guru in lagna is more favourable for them than a exalted Guru in the 7th. Why is that though Guru cause the famous Mahapurusha Yoga in the 7th but it's still better to have Guru deb. in lagna?? Can anyone enlighten please? Thanks Mofie onlyhari wrote: ---Om Brihaspataye Namah--- Dear Pradeep, Yes, it can give luck to the individual and such an individual shall never be short of money or fulfillment of needs. The question is why? regards Hari vedic astrology , "Vijayadas, Pradeep Kumar" <PradeepKumar.Vijayadas@s...> wrote: > Respected members > > If a debiliated jupiter (Jupiter in capricorn) in lagna is present,can > it still give some luck to the individual.I have found this from a > chart.Can this jupiter still bless the houses which it aspects. > > Thanks > Pradeep > > > ********************************************************************* ******* > The content of this e-mail is intended only for the confidential use of the > person addressed. If you have received this message in error, please notify > us immediately by electronic mail, by telephone or by fax at the above num- > bers. > > E-mail communications are not secure and therefore we do not accept any res- > ponsibility for the confidentiality or altered contents of this message. > > Please be aware that SIS Group and its subsidiary companies cannot accept > any orders or other legally binding correspondence with a participant as > part of an E-mail. The views expressed above are not necessarily those held > by SIS Group and its subsidiary companies and not binding for them. > ********************************************************************* ***exfe Archives: vedic astrology Group info: vedic astrology/info.html To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- Terms of Service .. Archives: vedic astrology Group info: vedic astrology/info.html Terms of Service .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2003 Report Share Posted July 4, 2003 Dear Charashekhar, yes, BPHS gives favorable results to the 3rd lord in the lagna, but I am talking about the 3rd lord being debilitated, whatever the house, forming a raja yoga, which is a different matter. Jai Ram, Ernst Wilhelm www.vedic astrology.net Chandrashekhar Sharma [boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk] Friday, July 04, 2003 12:55 PMTo: vedic astrologySubject: Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Debiliated Jupiter in LAGNA.Dear Ernst,Does BPHS not attribute similar results to 3rd lord(Neither debilitated nor exalted) in 1st in chapter 24 shloka25?Chandrashekhar.Ernst Wilhelm wrote: Dear Pradeep, yes, so Jupiter will cause raja yoga. There is one thing that gives rise in life- inspired activity, the other is the ability to overcome any obstacles that may come in one's way. Most raja yogas indicate inspired activity that is rewarded. The other type helps us overcome anything in the way, or get rid of what would otherwise get in our way. The 3rd lord debilitated is one such yoga that helps us get rid of what is in the way. One very big thing that gets in the way of success and also wellbeing is the inability to move beyond our paridigm- a problem can only be overcome by being solved on a higher level than it originated. The 3rd lord debilited, or a planet in the 3rd being debilitated gives this quality. Generally the yogas that help give success by overcoming obstacles do not give success the easy way as can other raja yogas. Often these yogas are seen in the charts of those who became successful in difficult times or through difficult experiences. War hereos are one such example. Jai Ram, Ernst Wilhelm www.vedic astrology.net Vijayadas, Pradeep Kumar [PradeepKumar.Vijayadas (AT) sisclear (DOT) com] Thursday, July 03, 2003 8:10 AMvedic astrologySubject: RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Debiliated Jupiter in LAGNA. Dear Ernst Jee So it means, for capri lagnas third house is pisces and hence its lord jupiter if debiliated gives rise to raja yoga.Am i right.Yes the individual about whom i am speaking has got fame and position in life but there was lots of bad luck. Thanks Pradeep Ernst Wilhelm [ernst (AT) vedic astrology (DOT) net] Donnerstag, 3. Juli 2003 17:02vedic astrologySubject: RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Debiliated Jupiter in LAGNA. Dear Mofie, 3rd lord debilitates forms a raja yoga, so that is why Jupiter is preferred in lagna in capricorn. Jai Ram, Ernst Wilhelm www.vedic astrology.net Mofie Augustine [mofieA (AT) netscape (DOT) net] Wednesday, July 02, 2003 10:04 AMTo: vedic astrologySubject: Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Debiliated Jupiter in LAGNA.Dear Guru'sYeah I too had read somewhere in list before that for a capri lagna natives, a debiliated Guru in lagna is morefavourable for them than a exalted Guru in the 7th. Why is that though Guru cause the famous MahapurushaYoga in the 7th but it's still better to have Guru deb. in lagna?? Can anyone enlighten please?Thanks Mofieonlyhari wrote: ---Om Brihaspataye Namah---Dear Pradeep,Yes, it can give luck to the individual and such an individual shall never be short of money or fulfillment of needs.The question is why?regardsHarivedic astrology, "Vijayadas, Pradeep Kumar" <PradeepKumar.Vijayadas@s...> wrote:> Respected members> > If a debiliated jupiter (Jupiter in capricorn) in lagna is present,can> it still give some luck to the individual.I have found this from a> chart.Can this jupiter still bless the houses which it aspects.> > Thanks> Pradeep> > > ****************************************************************************> The content of this e-mail is intended only for the confidential use of the> person addressed. 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Guest guest Posted July 5, 2003 Report Share Posted July 5, 2003 || Jaya Jagannath || Dear Hari, One of the condition for Vipareeta Raja yoga is that the dusthana lords should be placed with a kendra/ kona lord in a kendra kona in strength. When Mars is exalted in the Lagna with Debilitated in the same place. First of all we have neechabhanga of Jupiter. This renders both Mars and Jupiter strong and thus bringing in the benefits of the VRY. The extent to which it shall bestow its result would depend on the association with AK or the lagna lord Saturn with this combination. Best Wishes Sarajit - "onlyhari" <onlyhari > <vedic astrology> Friday, July 04, 2003 4:18 PM [vedic astrology] Re: Debiliated Jupiter in LAGNA. > ---Om Brihaspataye Namah---> Dear Pradeep,> > A lady that I know of has Ju + Ma in Cp lagna. Comforts, care, money > all in adequate measure throughout this lady's life but the crucial > difference here is the lady didnt have to face/overcome obstacles in > order to reach that status unlike the gentleman you are mentioning > about. I guess that the Ruchaka yoga is at work here and come to > think of it, she also has a gajakesari yoga though I am less certain > whether both yogas will fructify in her life (Ju dasha over and Ma > dasha comes very late).> > Regarding the point about Jyestha nakshatra, I should add that your > observation may be true for people born with lagna in Jyestha > nakshatra also. The first half of their lives is full of troubles > while the second half is probably better and happier. At least for > the moon in Jyestha nakshatra, is it because the Saturn Mahadasha > comes relatively early in their lives?> > regards> Hari> > > > Dear Ernst Jee> > > > The explanation given by you is amazing.The individual about whom > i was> > mentioning did not get success by virtue of luck.He always had > obstacles> > and diffulties to be overcomed.But somehow even during difficult > times> > strength and energy were there in a persistent fashion.Thus this > could> > be attributed to the debiliated raja yoga you had mentioned.> > > > Plus another interesting thing is this individual has jyeshta > nakshathra> > in moon rashi.I had read somewhere jyeshta people have to fight and> > strive hard for success.> > > > Thanks a lot.> > Pradeep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2003 Report Share Posted July 5, 2003 ---Om Brihaspataye Namah--- Namaste Sarajit, The point about dusthana involvement in VRY implies that there will be rewards after initial struggles. But in this lady's case, no significant struggles or efforts to overcome problems! So how can this give benefits without struggles? That is what I am trying to understand! We shall discuss more on this tomorrow. regards Hari vedic astrology, "Sarajit Poddar" <sarajit@s...> wrote: > || Jaya Jagannath || > Dear Hari, > > One of the condition for Vipareeta Raja yoga is that the dusthana lords should be placed with a kendra/ kona lord in a kendra kona in strength. When Mars is exalted in the Lagna with Debilitated in the same place. First of all we have neechabhanga of Jupiter. This renders both Mars and Jupiter strong and thus bringing in the benefits of the VRY. The extent to which it shall bestow its result would depend on the association with AK or the lagna lord Saturn with this combination. > > Best Wishes > Sarajit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2003 Report Share Posted July 5, 2003 Dear Pradeep, In that case, the prson comes up in life by dint of his own efforts. Sometimes he gets help of his brothers in his elevation. Chandrashekhar. Vijayadas, Pradeep Kumar wrote: Message Dear Zoran ji and chandrashekar ji How could be the results if there is an exchange between lagna lord and debiliated 3rd lord.eg. for Capri lagna jupiter the lord of third is in lagna and shani lord of lagna is in third.What general results can be expected because of third and lagna lords. Thanks Pradeep Zoran Radosavljevic [ahimsa (AT) NSpoint (DOT) net] Freitag, 4. Juli 2003 05:13 vedic astrology Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Debiliated Jupiter in LAGNA. Dear Chandrakeshar, Ernst has given a very valid thinking, 3rd, 6th and 8th lords in debilitation while Lagnesh is well placed, gives Raja Yoga see Parashara. Further, Tasmin Ucha Neecha Ve Shrimanath- Jaimini, so exalted and debilitated grahas are giver of wealth, If Guru is in Capricorn Lagna while, Shani is in own sign in kumbha, a great wealth may come Best wishes Zoran Chandrashekhar Sharma wrote: Dear Mofie, mahapurusha yoga is given rise to in any of the Quadrants, and not just 7th. The reason for Jupiter's good result in debilitation is that Jupiter is said to harm the house that he is placed in (Sthana Bhrashta), in exaltation his strength increases. Again he aspects his exaltation sign when placed in debilitation, leading to beneficial effects. As a matter of fact one learned Jyotishi, Shri Katwe, was of the firm opinion that it is the debilitated planets that give rise to benefic yogas. Of course this is not a generally held opinion. Chandrashekhar. Mofie Augustine wrote: Dear Guru's Yeah I too had read somewhere in list before that for a capri lagna natives, a debiliated Guru in lagna is more favourable for them than a exalted Guru in the 7th. Why is that though Guru cause the famous Mahapurusha Yoga in the 7th but it's still better to have Guru deb. in lagna?? Can anyone enlighten please? Thanks Mofie onlyhari wrote: ---Om Brihaspataye Namah--- Dear Pradeep, Yes, it can give luck to the individual and such an individual shall never be short of money or fulfillment of needs. The question is why? regards Hari vedic astrology , "Vijayadas, Pradeep Kumar" <PradeepKumar.Vijayadas@s...> wrote: > Respected members > > If a debiliated jupiter (Jupiter in capricorn) in lagna is present,can > it still give some luck to the individual.I have found this from a > chart.Can this jupiter still bless the houses which it aspects. > > Thanks > Pradeep > > > ********************************************************************* ******* > The content of this e-mail is intended only for the confidential use of the > person addressed. If you have received this message in error, please notify > us immediately by electronic mail, by telephone or by fax at the above num- > bers. > > E-mail communications are not secure and therefore we do not accept any res- > ponsibility for the confidentiality or altered contents of this message. > > Please be aware that SIS Group and its subsidiary companies cannot accept > any orders or other legally binding correspondence with a participant as > part of an E-mail. The views expressed above are not necessarily those held > by SIS Group and its subsidiary companies and not binding for them. > ********************************************************************* ***exfe Terms of Service . Terms of Service . **************************************************************************** The content of this e-mail is intended only for the confidential use of the person addressed. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by electronic mail, by telephone or by fax at the above num- bers. E-mail communications are not secure and therefore we do not accept any res- ponsibility for the confidentiality or altered contents of this message. Please be aware that SIS Group and its subsidiary companies cannot accept any orders or other legally binding correspondence with a participant as part of an E-mail. The views expressed above are not necessarily those held by SIS Group and its subsidiary companies and not binding for them. ***********************************************************************hexfe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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