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Hare Rama Krishna

Dear List,

 

i) Avoid wearing the Gem of the Lagna lord if its placed in - Marana Karaka

Sthana, or Dusthana. The result of wearing such a gem will enhance the evil

effects of the placement. Instead advise gem of the lord of exaltation sign.

Mantra is more advisable here.

 

ii) If the Lagna Lord is in own sign, but still in a Dusthana, wearing the gem

will enhance the health but will also enhance the natives ability todo evil.

One should advise the gem of the lord of exaltation sign.

 

iii) Gem of 6th lord will enhance hatred towards the house 6th lord is in. Ill

health will follow. Mitigative gem should be used (i.e. using weekday scheme or

Kaalachakra).

 

iv) Gem of 8th lord will enhance sorrow and ill health will follow in the sign

8th lord is in. Mitigative gem should be used (i.e. using weekday scheme or

Kaalachakra).

 

v) Gems for debilitated planets will render the planet useless, unless it is in

a Kendra to Lagna, or causing Vipareet Raja Yoga.

 

vi) Gems for wealth should be enunciated from Arudha Lagna. Wearing gems for

grahas in 11th from AL will enhance wealth, no matter their state. All above

points should be kept in mind as well.

 

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Hare Rama Krsna

Dear Ramapriya,

Rabindranath Tagore, had Gulika in Jupiters Nakshatra. Thats why he died during Jupiter Dasa.

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Wednesday, February 05, 2003 5:21 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Suitable Gems

Dear Swee,

 

May I add here that it isn't a set-in-stone principle that the lagna lord always

protects. I've seen in both Bhavartha Ratnakara and Jataka Chandrika that any

planet can become a maraka. The former work clearly states that, for Librans,

Venus in asc proves to be a maraka. I've also read B V Raman state that this is

proven in a number of cases; a notable case being that of Rabindranath Tagore

who was killed by Jupiter, his asc lord.

 

Warm regards,

 

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Tuesday, February 04, 2003 3:32 PM

RE: [vedic astrology] Suitable Gems

Jaya Jagannatha

 

Dear Ramapriya,

 

The lagna lord always protects.

 

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Hello Mr.Das, Your reply is profound and i appreciate your manner of

explaining things.I agree totally with your view that a gemstone

needs to be tested before use.Only the wearer can finally say what is

good for him.However i would say that no fixed rules can be set while

prescribing a gem.It is the totality of the horoscope which has to be

judged.To say that gems relating to planets in a dusthana should not

be worn is not a correct statement.Planets in dusthanas grant

vipreetraj yogas.Gems relating to vipreet rajyogas have given a lot

to people.Top spiritualists of the world have planets in 8th or 12th

bhavas.In my opinion dusthanas are not totally bad.In fact going a

step further i would say that all houses, like all signs have some

good points and some bad points.After all houses are no different

from signs.Therefore when all signs have some positve and negative

traits,so are all houses bound to have.It is one's karma which culls

out the good or bad out of the respective houses or signs.While

coming to your conclusion, you are forgetting that properties are

attributed to the planets by lordship and significations(karaktawa)

and not occupation.It is the effects of a planet which are attributed

to occupation.Effects,i am sure you will agree, are different from

properties.Thus whether a planet is malefic or benefic is more

related to its ownership rather than placement.You may also note that

moon's karaktava improves on account of its placement in the 12th

bhava,as said in a famous dictum in bhavarth ratnakara that a

planet's karaktawa gets better in the 12th bhava.Besides you are

totally ignoring the science of numerology when not agreeing to the

pearl.That apart,i also do not agree to your statement that left is

impure and right is pure.There is no logic to it.It is something

similar to saying that women are impure--- that foolish---

considering one's mother impure.I believe that the total body is pure

or impure depending upon your karma.There is a lot of interest

generated on the topic.I have not found time to read all the

posts.But i was looking for your reply and found it very

nice.Disagreements are on principle only.Bye RK In vedic-

astrology, Gauranga Das <gauranga@b...> wrote:

> JAYA JAGANNATHA!

>

> Dear Jyotisha,

>

> Namaste.

>

>

> > Hi, The theory about not wearing gems of planets in a dusthana

would

> > definitely not apply to moon as it is routinely stated in all

books

> > of vedic astrology that the house in which moon is placed becomes

> > like a lagna.It is mentioned in all leading astro books that a

planet

> > in the 12th behaves like as if it is imprisoned.Moon primarily

> > represents mind. I therefore see no reason why it should not be

> > strengthened,particularly when it is in bondage in view of its

> > position in the 12th.In these circumstances i see no malefic

effect

> > whatsoever in wearing a pearl by this native.I would definitely

like

> > to know what specific malefic effect is being anticipated by

Sh.Das

> > in this case by wearing a pearl and why so.Incidentally i may

mention

> > here that both Cheiro and Linda Goodman who are leading

international

> > celebrities in the field do rcommend wearing a pearl by birth no.2

> > people.I would also love to know from the native whether he had

any

> > problems after he wore a pearl.As regards wearing of pearl in left

> > hand,i have no problem with that since all books on vedic

astrology

> > recommend wearing a pearl in left hand only in all given

> > circumstances.In fact leading western astrologers are of the

opinion

> > that it is sufficient if a gemstone merely touches the skin.The

> > conclusions of western astrologers which are generally drawn after

> > painstaking reseach can in no circumstances be considered to be

> > devoid of logic.In thge end i may mention that for prescribing a

gem

> > it is the lordship of the planet which carries more weight than

> > placement.Bye

>

> A few thoughts regarding pearls and Ashish's chart:

>

> Moon is a very gentle planet, so most of the poeple like ewaring

pearls and

> feel no problems with them. However in some cases you may feel

constrained

> or depressed after strengthening the Moon if it's badly placed,

aspected or

> associated. So the golden rule for any gems is to put on, wear for

a few

> months and see how you feel like. Then put down, see the

difference. If it's

> better wearing than not, then go ahead. The main point is that any

gem will

> have a very subtle influence on the personality and other featiures

of the

> native. I have seen people being completely changed while weraing

geme,s

> especially if there were 2/3 different (often times naturallt or

temporally

> conflicting) planets. As soon as the native put the gems down, he

became his

> real self. So watch out for these effects.

>

> Next thought: Chandra Lagna or shubha. True, the sign and Nakshatra

ocuppied

> by the Moon becomes auspicious, and can be treated like a Lagna for

a mental

> or emotional perspective of the chart. However Moon is sensitive,

so you

> should consider all influences on her before strengthening the sign

she is

> placed in. But in the case of Ashish, by wearing pokhraj, the

Subhapati

> Jupiter is strengthened, and a smoother effect could be reached in

my

> opinion.

>

> Next thought on left hand: There is a substantial differtence

between the

> right and left hands, both for males and females. The right hand is

> considered to be more pure, so while offering things to Bhagavan in

puja, or

> eating Mahaprasad, or giving a donation, etc. the right hand is

used.

> Similarly, if wering gems which are naturally or functionally

benefic for

> the native, the pious effect gets increased. The left hand is

considered to

> be more contaminated, so if we touch anything impure, the left hand

should

> be preferred. Also, if we want to get rid of the malefic effect of

a crtain

> planet, by weaing the gem on the left hand, this purification will

take

> place. However here continuous wearing is usually not recommended.

I woudl

> prefer putting all malefic gems like Neelam, Gomed etc. on the left

hand.

>

> Next thought on Moon's effect in Ashish's chart: Moon in Pisces is

very

> favourable for spirituality and renunciation, especially noting that

> Subhapati is in 12th from it. She is vargottama, and strengthening

her may

> even be favourable for wealth (Sri Lagna conjoining). However Moon

is

> Atmakaraka, so we usually don't strengthen the Atmakaraka, but

rather the

> Ishta. Hanuman got a Ruby ring from Rama which he had to deliver to

Sita

> Devi. This ruby represented Sri Rama. Also, Moon in 12th is

unfavourable for

> mother's luck and longevity. Moon is in badhaka sthana from Mars

(sthira

> karaka for mother) so her longevity may also get hindered. So again

I would

> recommend wearing the gem for the ishta devata Jupiter.

>

> Yours,

>

> Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer

> gauranga@b...

> Jyotish Remedies:

> WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET

> Phone:+36-309-140-839

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Dear Visti,

 

If in following points some contradictions occur then

which point should get more preference over others.

For ex if jupiter (Retro) is 11th from AL and is in

its maran Karaksthan (i.e. in 3rd house and lord of

lagna too)then will it advisable to wear its gem.

 

Regards

Parag

 

 

--- Visti Larsen <vishnu wrote:

> Hare Rama Krishna

>

>

--

>

> Dear List,

>

> i) Avoid wearing the Gem of the Lagna lord if its

> placed in - Marana Karaka Sthana, or Dusthana. The

> result of wearing such a gem will enhance the evil

> effects of the placement. Instead advise gem of the

> lord of exaltation sign. Mantra is more advisable

> here.

>

> ii) If the Lagna Lord is in own sign, but still in a

> Dusthana, wearing the gem will enhance the health

> but will also enhance the natives ability todo evil.

> One should advise the gem of the lord of exaltation

> sign.

>

> iii) Gem of 6th lord will enhance hatred towards the

> house 6th lord is in. Ill health will follow.

> Mitigative gem should be used (i.e. using weekday

> scheme or Kaalachakra).

>

> iv) Gem of 8th lord will enhance sorrow and ill

> health will follow in the sign 8th lord is in.

> Mitigative gem should be used (i.e. using weekday

> scheme or Kaalachakra).

>

> v) Gems for debilitated planets will render the

> planet useless, unless it is in a Kendra to Lagna,

> or causing Vipareet Raja Yoga.

>

> vi) Gems for wealth should be enunciated from Arudha

> Lagna. Wearing gems for grahas in 11th from AL will

> enhance wealth, no matter their state. All above

> points should be kept in mind as well.

>

> Best wishes

> Visti

> ---

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> Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org

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>

 

 

 

 

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Hare Rama Krsna

Some people die for money. If Jupiter is in Kendra from Moon, advise a pearl and

the money will come.

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parag dharmadhikari

vedic astrology

Wednesday, February 05, 2003 8:46 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Suitable Gems

Dear Visti,If in following points some contradictions occur thenwhich point

should get more preference over others.For ex if jupiter (Retro) is 11th from

AL and is inits maran Karaksthan (i.e. in 3rd house and lord oflagna too)then

will it advisable to wear its gem.RegardsParag--- Visti Larsen <vishnu (AT) lbq (DOT) dk>

wrote:> Hare Rama Krishna>

>-->

> Dear List,> > i) Avoid wearing the Gem of the Lagna lord if its> placed in -

Marana Karaka Sthana, or Dusthana. The> result of wearing such a gem will

enhance the evil> effects of the placement. Instead advise gem of the> lord of

exaltation sign. Mantra is more advisable> here.> > ii) If the Lagna Lord is in

own sign, but still in a> Dusthana, wearing the gem will enhance the health> but

will also enhance the natives ability todo evil.> One should advise the gem of

the lord of exaltation> sign.> > iii) Gem of 6th lord will enhance hatred

towards the> house 6th lord is in. Ill health will follow.> Mitigative gem

should be used (i.e. using weekday> scheme or Kaalachakra).> > iv) Gem of 8th

lord will enhance sorrow and ill> health will follow in the sign 8th lord is

in.> Mitigative gem should be used (i.e. using weekday> scheme or

Kaalachakra).> > v) Gems for debilitated planets will render the> planet

useless, unless it is in a Kendra to Lagna,> or causing Vipareet Raja Yoga.> >

vi) Gems for wealth should be enunciated from Arudha> Lagna. Wearing gems for

grahas in 11th from AL will> enhance wealth, no matter their state. All above>

points should be kept in mind as well.> > Best wishes> Visti> ---> Sri

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Dear Visti Ji,

My questions in red.

> i) Avoid wearing the Gem of the Lagna lord if its> placed in - Marana Karaka

Sthana, or Dusthana. The> result of wearing such a gem will enhance the evil>

effects of the placement. Instead advise gem of the> lord of exaltation sign.

Mantra is more advisable> here.> The lagna lord mars in Marana Karaka

Sthana.Saturn is the lord of exaltation sign and is in 8th(scorpio)and is not

good for Aries Lagna,Would you still recommend Blue saphire and during what

dasa period?> ii) If the Lagna Lord is in own sign, but still in a> Dusthana,

wearing the gem will enhance the health> but will also enhance the natives

ability to do evil.> One should advise the gem of the lord of exaltation>

sign.> Mars as lagna lord in 8th in scorpio,Would you recommend Blue Saphire?>

vi) Gems for wealth should be enunciated from Arudha> Lagna. Wearing gems for

grahas in 11th from AL will> enhance wealth, no matter their state. All above>

points should be kept in mind as well.

What if the planets in 11 from AL are enemies of Lagna lord and are in Dusthana

of natal house?With regards,

Jameet

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Hare Rama Krsna

Dear Jagmeet,

Comments below.

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vedic astrology

Wednesday, February 05, 2003 10:06 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Suitable Gems

Dear Visti Ji,

My questions in red.

> i) Avoid wearing the Gem of the Lagna lord if its> placed in - Marana Karaka

Sthana, or Dusthana. The> result of wearing such a gem will enhance the evil>

effects of the placement. Instead advise gem of the> lord of exaltation sign.

Mantra is more advisable> here.> The lagna lord mars in Marana Karaka

Sthana.Saturn is the lord of exaltation sign and is in 8th(scorpio)and is not

good for Aries Lagna,Would you still recommend Blue saphire and during what

dasa period?

Visti: These rules aren't written in stone. We wear Ruby for a Mercury or

Mars (as lagna lords) when in a weak position.

> ii) If the Lagna Lord is in own sign, but still in a> Dusthana, wearing the

gem will enhance the health> but will also enhance the natives ability to do

evil.> One should advise the gem of the lord of exaltation> sign.> Mars as

lagna lord in 8th in scorpio,Would you recommend Blue Saphire?

Visti: Ruby.> vi) Gems for wealth should be enunciated from Arudha> Lagna.

Wearing gems for grahas in 11th from AL will> enhance wealth, no matter their

state. All above> points should be kept in mind as well.

What if the planets in 11 from AL are enemies of Lagna lord

and are in Dusthana of natal house?

Visti: No here i must let u think. Gurudev has Arudha Lagna in 10th house and

the 11th therefrom is the 8th... he gains from Astrology and Occult studies.

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|| Om Gurave Namah :: Om Namo Naaraayanaaya ||

Namaste Visti,

WRT your point:

> vi) Gems for wealth should be enunciated from Arudha Lagna. Wearing gems for

grahas in 11th from AL will enhance wealth, no matter their state.

What if the planets in 11 from AL are enemies of Lagna lord

and are in Dusthana of natal house?

Visti: No here i must let u think. Gurudev has Arudha Lagna in 10th house and

the 11th therefrom is the 8th... he gains from Astrology and Occult studies.

I have MA in 11th(SC - 2H) from AL(CP - 4H). My experience with Red Coral has

been terrible - I tried it twice (I am not very sure but I think it was during

MA Mahadasa).

Am I missing something,

Shailesh

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Hi,

 

While on the subject of gems, I see that nobody has mentioned (not even Sanjay

in VRA) that all the rules get reversed for southpaws. In the absence of a

denial, I'll take my assumption to be okay. Wearing gems on the karmic hand

looks kinda logical...

 

Warm regards,

 

Ramapriya

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In order to prescribe a gem,i will need the entire horoscope,as also

the date of birth.In ketu dsaha,the native is likely to suffer from

piles and other diseaes of private parts;as also diseaes of the mind

like great indecision and wavering thereof. RKvedic-

astrology, Bhandari <bhandariuk> wrote:

> Dear All

>

> How would this effect if Moon was in 8th house at 3.04

> degrees, Aries ascendant 18.59 degress with Ketu in

> 8th at 28.49 degrees ? What would be the impact

> especially in Ketu maha dasha ?

>

> Would appreciate some guidance.

>

> Regards

>

> Bhandari

>

> --- "R.K.Baqaya <rupkrishen@v...>"

> <rupkrishen@v...> wrote:

> > Hi, The theory about not wearing gems of planets in

> > a dusthana would

> > definitely not apply to moon as it is routinely

> > stated in all books

> > of vedic astrology that the house in which moon is

> > placed becomes

> > like a lagna.It is mentioned in all leading astro

> > books that a planet

> > in the 12th behaves like as if it is imprisoned.Moon

> > primarily

> > represents mind. I therefore see no reason why it

> > should not be

> > strengthened,particularly when it is in bondage in

> > view of its

> > position in the 12th.In these circumstances i see no

> > malefic effect

> > whatsoever in wearing a pearl by this native.I would

> > definitely like

> > to know what specific malefic effect is being

> > anticipated by Sh.Das

> > in this case by wearing a pearl and why

> > so.Incidentally i may mention

> > here that both Cheiro and Linda Goodman who are

> > leading international

> > celebrities in the field do rcommend wearing a pearl

> > by birth no.2

> > people.I would also love to know from the native

> > whether he had any

> > problems after he wore a pearl.As regards wearing of

> > pearl in left

> > hand,i have no problem with that since all books on

> > vedic astrology

> > recommend wearing a pearl in left hand only in all

> > given

> > circumstances.In fact leading western astrologers

> > are of the opinion

> > that it is sufficient if a gemstone merely touches

> > the skin.The

> > conclusions of western astrologers which are

> > generally drawn after

> > painstaking reseach can in no circumstances be

> > considered to be

> > devoid of logic.In thge end i may mention that for

> > prescribing a gem

> > it is the lordship of the planet which carries more

> > weight than

> > placement.Bye RK--- In

> > vedic astrology, Gauranga Das

> > <gauranga@b...> wrote:

> > > JAYA JAGANNATHA!

> > >

> > > Dear members,

> > >

> > > Namaste.

> > >

> > > I would not recommend gems of planets in a

> > dusthana, as the malefic

> > effect

> > > gets strengthened also unless you wear it no the

> > left hand during

> > the dasa

> > > of the planet. Then the malefic effect decreases.

> > I would recommend

> > yellow

> > > sapphire instead, or as substitutes yellow

> > tourmaline or citrine.

> > >

> > > Yours,

> > >

> > > Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer

> > > gauranga@b...

> > > Jyotish Remedies:

> > > WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET

> > > Phone:+36-309-140-839

> > >

> > >

> > > -

> > > <rupkrishen@v...>

> > > <vedic astrology>

> > > Saturday, February 01, 2003 5:02 AM

> > > [vedic astrology] Re: Suitable Gems

> > >

> > >

> > > > The most suitable gem for you is the pearl,

> > since moon the 4th

> > lord

> > > > being adversely placed in the 12th,needs to be

> > strengthened to

> > give

> > > > you peace of mind.This conclusion draws support

> > from numerology

> > > > too,where a pearl is prescribed for people with

> > birth number 2.

> > > > RK vedic astrology,

> > ashish mishra

> > > > <gituyahu> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > khudarte trisharte janani smaranti

> > > > >

> > > > > sir,

> > > > >

> > > > > i sent the a detailed chart for prescription

> > of gems to wear to

> > > > alleviate the problems a bit. but that chart

> > was wrong . so im

> > > > sending the RIGHT CHART again with hope to find

> > the answer from

> > you

> > > > masters. Thanking you.

> > > > >

> > > > > ashish mishra

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Details

> > > > >

> > > > >

> >

> -------------------------------

> > ----

> > > > >

> > > > > These calculations were made using

> > "Jagannatha Hora Lite". It

> > is a

> > > > >

> > > > > free software from Sri Jagannath Vedic

> > Centre. You can

> > download it

> > > > >

> > > > > from http://www.geocities.com/~astrowhiz or

> > http://www.sjvc.net.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> >

> -------------------------------

> > ----

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Date of Birth: October 2, 1974

> > > > >

> > > > > Time of Birth: 7:55:00 pm

> > > > >

> > > > > Time Zone of Birth: 5:30 East of GMT

> > > > >

> > > > > Longitude of Birth: 83 E 58

> > > > >

> > > > > Latitude of Birth: 21 N 27

> > > > >

> > > > > Lunar month (maasa): Bhadrapada

> > > > >

> > > > > Lunar day (tithi): Krishna Dwitiya

> > > > >

> > > > > Tithi balance: 0.8814

> > > > >

> > > > > Nakshatra balance: 0.0810

> > > > >

> > > > > Sun-Moon Yoga: Vyaghata

> > > > >

> > > > > Sun-Moon Karana: Taitula

> > > > >

> > > > > Vara (weekday): Wednesday

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Sunrise = 5:45 am (Apparent rise - upper limb)

> > > > >

> > > > > Ayanamsa = 23-30-32

> > > > >

> > > > > Dasa year length chosen = 365.2425 days

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Planet Position Pada CharaK

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Ascdt 27 Ar 23 Krittika 1 -

> > > > >

> > > > > Sun 15 Vi 29 Hastha 2 PiK

> > > > >

> > > > > Moon 28 Pi 55 Revathi 4 AK

> > > > >

> > > > > Mars 19 Vi 23 Hastha 3 BK

> > > > >

> > > > > Mercury 11 Li 09 Swathi 2 PK

> > > > >

> > > > > Jupiter ® 16 Aq 07 Satabhisham 3 MK

> > > > >

> > > > > Venus 6 Vi 28 U.Pha. 3 DK

> > > > >

> > > > > Saturn 24 Ge 37 Punarvasu 2 AmK

> > > > >

> > > > > Rahu 19 Sc 52 Jyeshtha 1 GK

> > > > >

> > > > > Ketu 19 Ta 52 Rohini 3 -

> > > > >

> > > > > BhavaLg 17 Ar 18 Bharani 2 -

> > > > >

> > > > > HoraLg 19 Sc 41 Jyeshtha 1 -

> > > > >

> > > > > GhatiLg 26 Le 52 U.Pha. 1 -

> > > > >

> >

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It is common knowledge that benefics when weakened by their position

in dusthanas need to be strengthened.I am not aware of any authority

which backs your proposition. RKvedic-

astrology, "Swee Chan" <swee@c...> wrote:

> Jaya Jagannatha,

>

> Dear Bhandari,

>

> Never recommend for planets in their marana sthanas. The following

applies:

> Sun in 12th

> Moon in 8th

> Mars and Mercury in 7th

> Jupiter in 3rd

> Venus in 6th

> Saturn in 1st

>

> Hope this helps.

>

> Swee

> swee@b...

>

> http://www.brihaspati.net/ <http://www.brihaspati.net/>

>

>

> Bhandari [bhandariuk]

> Monday, February 03, 2003 2:59 PM

> vedic astrology

> Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Suitable Gems

>

> Dear All

>

> How would this effect if Moon was in 8th house at 3.04

> degrees, Aries ascendant 18.59 degress with Ketu in

> 8th at 28.49 degrees ? What would be the impact

> especially in Ketu maha dasha ?

>

> Would appreciate some guidance.

>

> Regards

>

> Bhandari

>

> --- "R.K.Baqaya <rupkrishen@v...>"

> <rupkrishen@v...> wrote:

> > Hi, The theory about not wearing gems of planets in

> > a dusthana would

> > definitely not apply to moon as it is routinely

> > stated in all books

> > of vedic astrology that the house in which moon is

> > placed becomes

> > like a lagna.It is mentioned in all leading astro

> > books that a planet

> > in the 12th behaves like as if it is imprisoned.Moon

> > primarily

> > represents mind. I therefore see no reason why it

> > should not be

> > strengthened,particularly when it is in bondage in

> > view of its

> > position in the 12th.In these circumstances i see no

> > malefic effect

> > whatsoever in wearing a pearl by this native.I would

> > definitely like

> > to know what specific malefic effect is being

> > anticipated by Sh.Das

> > in this case by wearing a pearl and why

> > so.Incidentally i may mention

> > here that both Cheiro and Linda Goodman who are

> > leading international

> > celebrities in the field do rcommend wearing a pearl

> > by birth no.2

> > people.I would also love to know from the native

> > whether he had any

> > problems after he wore a pearl.As regards wearing of

> > pearl in left

> > hand,i have no problem with that since all books on

> > vedic astrology

> > recommend wearing a pearl in left hand only in all

> > given

> > circumstances.In fact leading western astrologers

> > are of the opinion

> > that it is sufficient if a gemstone merely touches

> > the skin.The

> > conclusions of western astrologers which are

> > generally drawn after

> > painstaking reseach can in no circumstances be

> > considered to be

> > devoid of logic.In thge end i may mention that for

> > prescribing a gem

> > it is the lordship of the planet which carries more

> > weight than

> > placement.Bye RK--- In

> > vedic astrology, Gauranga Das

> > <gauranga@b...> wrote:

> > > JAYA JAGANNATHA!

> > >

> > > Dear members,

> > >

> > > Namaste.

> > >

> > > I would not recommend gems of planets in a

> > dusthana, as the malefic

> > effect

> > > gets strengthened also unless you wear it no the

> > left hand during

> > the dasa

> > > of the planet. Then the malefic effect decreases.

> > I would recommend

> > yellow

> > > sapphire instead, or as substitutes yellow

> > tourmaline or citrine.

> > >

> > > Yours,

> > >

> > > Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer

> > > gauranga@b...

> > > Jyotish Remedies:

> > > WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET

> > > Phone:+36-309-140-839

> > >

> > >

> > > -

> > > <rupkrishen@v...>

> > > <vedic astrology>

> > > Saturday, February 01, 2003 5:02 AM

> > > [vedic astrology] Re: Suitable Gems

> > >

> > >

> > > > The most suitable gem for you is the pearl,

> > since moon the 4th

> > lord

> > > > being adversely placed in the 12th,needs to be

> > strengthened to

> > give

> > > > you peace of mind.This conclusion draws support

> > from numerology

> > > > too,where a pearl is prescribed for people with

> > birth number 2.

> > > > RK vedic astrology,

> > ashish mishra

> > > > <gituyahu> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > khudarte trisharte janani smaranti

> > > > >

> > > > > sir,

> > > > >

> > > > > i sent the a detailed chart for prescription

> > of gems to wear to

> > > > alleviate the problems a bit. but that chart

> > was wrong . so im

> > > > sending the RIGHT CHART again with hope to find

> > the answer from

> > you

> > > > masters. Thanking you.

> > > > >

> > > > > ashish mishra

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Details

> > > > >

> > > > >

> >

> -------------------------------

> > ----

> > > > >

> > > > > These calculations were made using

> > "Jagannatha Hora Lite". It

> > is a

> > > > >

> > > > > free software from Sri Jagannath Vedic

> > Centre. You can

> > download it

> > > > >

> > > > > from http://www.geocities.com/~astrowhiz or

> > http://www.sjvc.net.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> >

> -------------------------------

> > ----

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Date of Birth: October 2, 1974

> > > > >

> > > > > Time of Birth: 7:55:00 pm

> > > > >

> > > > > Time Zone of Birth: 5:30 East of GMT

> > > > >

> > > > > Longitude of Birth: 83 E 58

> > > > >

> > > > > Latitude of Birth: 21 N 27

> > > > >

> > > > > Lunar month (maasa): Bhadrapada

> > > > >

> > > > > Lunar day (tithi): Krishna Dwitiya

> > > > >

> > > > > Tithi balance: 0.8814

> > > > >

> > > > > Nakshatra balance: 0.0810

> > > > >

> > > > > Sun-Moon Yoga: Vyaghata

> > > > >

> > > > > Sun-Moon Karana: Taitula

> > > > >

> > > > > Vara (weekday): Wednesday

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Sunrise = 5:45 am (Apparent rise - upper limb)

> > > > >

> > > > > Ayanamsa = 23-30-32

> > > > >

> > > > > Dasa year length chosen = 365.2425 days

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Planet Position Pada CharaK

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Ascdt 27 Ar 23 Krittika 1 -

> > > > >

> > > > > Sun 15 Vi 29 Hastha 2 PiK

> > > > >

> > > > > Moon 28 Pi 55 Revathi 4 AK

> > > > >

> > > > > Mars 19 Vi 23 Hastha 3 BK

> > > > >

> > > > > Mercury 11 Li 09 Swathi 2 PK

> > > > >

> > > > > Jupiter ® 16 Aq 07 Satabhisham 3 MK

> > > > >

> > > > > Venus 6 Vi 28 U.Pha. 3 DK

> > > > >

> > > > > Saturn 24 Ge 37 Punarvasu 2 AmK

> > > > >

> > > > > Rahu 19 Sc 52 Jyeshtha 1 GK

> > > > >

> > > > > Ketu 19 Ta 52 Rohini 3 -

> > > > >

> > > > > BhavaLg 17 Ar 18 Bharani 2 -

> > > > >

> > > > > HoraLg 19 Sc 41 Jyeshtha 1 -

> > > > >

> > > > > GhatiLg 26 Le 52 U.Pha. 1 -

> > > > >

> >

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Hare Rama Krsna

Dear Shailesh,

 

Mars is in Papakartari Yoga and is Marakesh - Worries, distress, disatisfaction, ill health.

 

Infact you will always be unsatisfied with your gains.

 

Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana:

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Re: [vedic astrology] Suitable Gems

|| Om Gurave Namah :: Om Namo Naaraayanaaya ||

Namaste Visti,

WRT your point:

> vi) Gems for wealth should be enunciated from Arudha Lagna. Wearing gems for

grahas in 11th from AL will enhance wealth, no matter their state.

What if the planets in 11 from AL are enemies of Lagna lord

and are in Dusthana of natal house?

Visti: No here i must let u think. Gurudev has Arudha Lagna in 10th house and

the 11th therefrom is the 8th... he gains from Astrology and Occult studies.

I have MA in 11th(SC - 2H) from AL(CP - 4H). My experience with Red Coral has

been terrible - I tried it twice (I am not very sure but I think it was during

MA Mahadasa).

Am I missing something,

Shailesh

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Om Gurave Namah

Dear Ramapriya

Tha Lagna lord, 8th lord and 10th lord if weak reduce longevity and act as

maraka. So it is necessary to strengthen them through gemstones,

mantra/upasana and good karma respectively.

At the feet of Guru Pandita Kasinatha,

I remain,

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Wednesday, February 05, 2003 9:51 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Suitable Gems

 

 

Dear Swee,

 

May I add here that it isn't a set-in-stone principle that the lagna lord

always protects. I've seen in both Bhavartha Ratnakara and Jataka Chandrika

that any planet can become a maraka. The former work clearly states that,

for Librans, Venus in asc proves to be a maraka. I've also read B V Raman

state that this is proven in a number of cases; a notable case being that of

Rabindranath Tagore who was killed by Jupiter, his asc lord.

 

Warm regards,

 

Ramapriya

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Tuesday, February 04, 2003 3:32 PM

RE: [vedic astrology] Suitable Gems

 

 

Jaya Jagannatha

 

 

 

Dear Ramapriya,

 

 

 

The lagna lord always protects.

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

Swee

 

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JAYA JAGANNATHA!

 

Dear Rupkrishen,

 

Namaste.

 

> Hello Mr.Das, Your reply is profound and i appreciate your manner of

> explaining things.I agree totally with your view that a gemstone

> needs to be tested before use.Only the wearer can finally say what is

> good for him.However i would say that no fixed rules can be set while

> prescribing a gem.It is the totality of the horoscope which has to be

> judged.To say that gems relating to planets in a dusthana should not

 

I agree that totality should be judged, however we are supposed to use some

guidelines when judging the totality of the chart. So dusthanas giving bad

effect is also one of the rules. I agree that if the planet is giving

Vipreet Rajyoga, then you can consider risking the malefic effects to get

the benefic ones. Remember that Vipreer Rajyoga means that someone will lose

out for you to win. So if you want to give another kick to the bad happening

to the other person then you can try to wear a disthana gem.

 

On the general I think we should first consider thoroughly what are the

different roles played by a certain planet in a chart, and als consider what

Sarajit explained on AK: gems will mostly have an effect on the body and the

mind, and karma as well, but the soul is another cup of tea.

 

> be worn is not a correct statement.Planets in dusthanas grant

> vipreetraj yogas.Gems relating to vipreet rajyogas have given a lot

> to people.Top spiritualists of the world have planets in 8th or 12th

> bhavas.In my opinion dusthanas are not totally bad.In fact going a

> step further i would say that all houses, like all signs have some

> good points and some bad points.After all houses are no different

> from signs.Therefore when all signs have some positve and negative

> traits,so are all houses bound to have.It is one's karma which culls

> out the good or bad out of the respective houses or signs.

 

Agree, and also every planet will have some percentage of good and bad

effects (see vimsopaka bala for judgement). However my concern was that if

the planet is giving not only benefic effects (which is usually the case),

then you should consider and decide what risk you would like to take. I'm

wearing my lagnesh's stone Ruby which mostly has benefic effects on the 5th

house and the 9th also in my chart. However Sun being a natural malefic may

still cause some tension in my life. So one has to judge accordingly.

 

While

> coming to your conclusion, you are forgetting that properties are

> attributed to the planets by lordship and significations(karaktawa)

> and not occupation.It is the effects of a planet which are attributed

> to occupation.Effects,i am sure you will agree, are different from

> properties.Thus whether a planet is malefic or benefic is more

> related to its ownership rather than placement.

 

Natural properties and functional properties are different as we have

discussed earlier. However you should note that benefic/malefic qualities

related to owbnership always depend on what is the strating point we take.

Lagna, or Moon, or AL, or what not? So it's multidimensional.

 

 

You may also note that

> moon's karaktava improves on account of its placement in the 12th

> bhava,as said in a famous dictum in bhavarth ratnakara that a

> planet's karaktawa gets better in the 12th bhava.

 

I have not studied Bhavartha Ratnakara yet, as I don't have a copy of it

yet. But I'm interested to study it.

 

Besides you are

> totally ignoring the science of numerology when not agreeing to the

> pearl.That apart,i also do not agree to your statement that left is

> impure and right is pure.There is no logic to it.It is something

> similar to saying that women are impure--- that foolish---

> considering one's mother impure.I believe that the total body is pure

> or impure depending upon your karma.

 

You are coming from India I guess. No cultured man in India (in fact, in the

whole Far East) would use his left hand while eating or use his right hand

while touching his private parts. You may conclude that the mouth and anus

are equally pure, still some distinction is made. Shatstra should be studied

in this regard, as Vedic tradition means not just knowledge but culutre as

well. Unfortunately even Indians nowadays torn their face to the west and as

a result lose their finer culture. Western people don't distinguish between

the two hands, and do whatever nonsense with both.

 

Yours,

 

Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer

gauranga

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There is a lot of interest

> generated on the topic.I have not found time to read all the

> posts.But i was looking for your reply and found it very

> nice.Disagreements are on principle only.Bye RK In vedic-

> astrology, Gauranga Das <gauranga@b...> wrote:

> > JAYA JAGANNATHA!

> >

> > Dear Jyotisha,

> >

> > Namaste.

> >

> >

> > > Hi, The theory about not wearing gems of planets in a dusthana

> would

> > > definitely not apply to moon as it is routinely stated in all

> books

> > > of vedic astrology that the house in which moon is placed becomes

> > > like a lagna.It is mentioned in all leading astro books that a

> planet

> > > in the 12th behaves like as if it is imprisoned.Moon primarily

> > > represents mind. I therefore see no reason why it should not be

> > > strengthened,particularly when it is in bondage in view of its

> > > position in the 12th.In these circumstances i see no malefic

> effect

> > > whatsoever in wearing a pearl by this native.I would definitely

> like

> > > to know what specific malefic effect is being anticipated by

> Sh.Das

> > > in this case by wearing a pearl and why so.Incidentally i may

> mention

> > > here that both Cheiro and Linda Goodman who are leading

> international

> > > celebrities in the field do rcommend wearing a pearl by birth no.2

> > > people.I would also love to know from the native whether he had

> any

> > > problems after he wore a pearl.As regards wearing of pearl in left

> > > hand,i have no problem with that since all books on vedic

> astrology

> > > recommend wearing a pearl in left hand only in all given

> > > circumstances.In fact leading western astrologers are of the

> opinion

> > > that it is sufficient if a gemstone merely touches the skin.The

> > > conclusions of western astrologers which are generally drawn after

> > > painstaking reseach can in no circumstances be considered to be

> > > devoid of logic.In thge end i may mention that for prescribing a

> gem

> > > it is the lordship of the planet which carries more weight than

> > > placement.Bye

> >

> > A few thoughts regarding pearls and Ashish's chart:

> >

> > Moon is a very gentle planet, so most of the poeple like ewaring

> pearls and

> > feel no problems with them. However in some cases you may feel

> constrained

> > or depressed after strengthening the Moon if it's badly placed,

> aspected or

> > associated. So the golden rule for any gems is to put on, wear for

> a few

> > months and see how you feel like. Then put down, see the

> difference. If it's

> > better wearing than not, then go ahead. The main point is that any

> gem will

> > have a very subtle influence on the personality and other featiures

> of the

> > native. I have seen people being completely changed while weraing

> geme,s

> > especially if there were 2/3 different (often times naturallt or

> temporally

> > conflicting) planets. As soon as the native put the gems down, he

> became his

> > real self. So watch out for these effects.

> >

> > Next thought: Chandra Lagna or shubha. True, the sign and Nakshatra

> ocuppied

> > by the Moon becomes auspicious, and can be treated like a Lagna for

> a mental

> > or emotional perspective of the chart. However Moon is sensitive,

> so you

> > should consider all influences on her before strengthening the sign

> she is

> > placed in. But in the case of Ashish, by wearing pokhraj, the

> Subhapati

> > Jupiter is strengthened, and a smoother effect could be reached in

> my

> > opinion.

> >

> > Next thought on left hand: There is a substantial differtence

> between the

> > right and left hands, both for males and females. The right hand is

> > considered to be more pure, so while offering things to Bhagavan in

> puja, or

> > eating Mahaprasad, or giving a donation, etc. the right hand is

> used.

> > Similarly, if wering gems which are naturally or functionally

> benefic for

> > the native, the pious effect gets increased. The left hand is

> considered to

> > be more contaminated, so if we touch anything impure, the left hand

> should

> > be preferred. Also, if we want to get rid of the malefic effect of

> a crtain

> > planet, by weaing the gem on the left hand, this purification will

> take

> > place. However here continuous wearing is usually not recommended.

> I woudl

> > prefer putting all malefic gems like Neelam, Gomed etc. on the left

> hand.

> >

> > Next thought on Moon's effect in Ashish's chart: Moon in Pisces is

> very

> > favourable for spirituality and renunciation, especially noting that

> > Subhapati is in 12th from it. She is vargottama, and strengthening

> her may

> > even be favourable for wealth (Sri Lagna conjoining). However Moon

> is

> > Atmakaraka, so we usually don't strengthen the Atmakaraka, but

> rather the

> > Ishta. Hanuman got a Ruby ring from Rama which he had to deliver to

> Sita

> > Devi. This ruby represented Sri Rama. Also, Moon in 12th is

> unfavourable for

> > mother's luck and longevity. Moon is in badhaka sthana from Mars

> (sthira

> > karaka for mother) so her longevity may also get hindered. So again

> I would

> > recommend wearing the gem for the ishta devata Jupiter.

> >

> > Yours,

> >

> > Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer

> > gauranga@b...

> > Jyotish Remedies:

> > WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET

> > Phone:+36-309-140-839

>

>

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|| Om Gurave Namah :: Om Namo Naaraayanaaya ||

Namaste Visti,

This does not fit - two points:

1. I have been told all too often that I am very easily satisfied - totally

unlike <<Infact you will always be unsatisfied with your gains>>. And - that is

a fact,

2. In this mail, you have mentioned Papakartari on MARS - the 11th from AL,

whereas in your earleir mail your statement was totally unqualified << Wearing

gems for grahas in 11th from AL will enhance wealth, no matter their state.>>.

Thats why I feel that there has to be some point that we are overlooking !!!

Best wishes,

Shailesh

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Thursday, February 06, 2003 1:17 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Suitable Gems

Hare Rama Krsna

Dear Shailesh,

 

Mars is in Papakartari Yoga and is Marakesh - Worries, distress, disatisfaction, ill health.

 

Infact you will always be unsatisfied with your gains.

 

Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana:

http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

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vedic astrology

Thursday, February 06, 2003 3:39 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Suitable Gems

|| Om Gurave Namah :: Om Namo Naaraayanaaya ||

Namaste Visti,

WRT your point:

> vi) Gems for wealth should be enunciated from Arudha Lagna. Wearing gems for

grahas in 11th from AL will enhance wealth, no matter their state.

What if the planets in 11 from AL are enemies of Lagna lord

and are in Dusthana of natal house?

Visti: No here i must let u think. Gurudev has Arudha Lagna in 10th house and

the 11th therefrom is the 8th... he gains from Astrology and Occult studies.

I have MA in 11th(SC - 2H) from AL(CP - 4H). My experience with Red Coral has

been terrible - I tried it twice (I am not very sure but I think it was during

MA Mahadasa).

Am I missing something,

Shailesh

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Dear Ramapriya ,

I agree.

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Re: [vedic astrology] Suitable Gems

Hi,

 

While on the subject of gems, I see that nobody has mentioned (not even Sanjay

in VRA) that all the rules get reversed for southpaws. In the absence of a

denial, I'll take my assumption to be okay. Wearing gems on the karmic hand

looks kinda logical...

 

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Jaya Jagannath

Dear Jyotisha,

 

The principle of wearing he gemstone in the Right hand or the left hand is based

on whether you would like to increase or decrease the influence of the planet

respectively. Now based on various conditions, you first decide, which planets,

you wish to strenthen and which you would like to weaken. Generally, the

gemstone, which is worn in the left hand is for only a temporary duration,

mostly in the dasa of the planet, if you find that this planet is giving more

trouble than one can tolerate. This will to some extent tone down the malefic

influence as the planet will be weakened.

 

One of my associate was wearing some stone of planets in the right hand for the

planets which is giving him vipareeta rajayoga, being the 8th lord placed in

the 12th with one more dusthana lord. The moment, I saw that, I said, why

doesn't he just take the stone out from the finger or rather wear it into the

left hand (just for a small period, to check the effect), that would at least

take him out from unwanted debts and loans, besides giving some good Gain. He

did that and the effect was felt pretty soon. Now the principle for VRY is that

the dusthana lords contributing the VRY should be weak and that guy was

strehthening them, making the VRY weak.

 

Here is what Pt. Sanjay Rath says in VRA, while recommending the gemstones for

different planets (look at the footnote 307)

 

When the planet is a malefic for the horoscope, this gemstone is for temporary

use during the Dasa-bhukti of the planet. In this column (11) the opposite

gemstone/ balancing planetary gem has been suggested. If instead a gem is to be

worn for the main Dasa planet itself, then it should be worn in the left hand.

For example, if Rahu is malefic then during its period a Yellow

sapphire/topaz/citrine can be worn in the right hand ring finger or a

Hessonite/Brown Tourmaline etc (See Col. 3& 13) can be worn in the left hand

middle finger.

 

Hope this is of some help

Warm Regards

Sarajit

-

Ramadas Rao

vedic astrology

Wednesday, February 05, 2003 12:55 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Suitable Gems

OM KLEEM KRISHNAAYA NAMAH Dear Imran ji, Till now I have not advised anybody to

use any gem either good planets or malefic planets in left hand.The Lagna lord

either a natural benefic or malefic,he is auspicious for the Lagna concerned

and normally it always works .For planets in Dustanas or Dustana lords ,I

suggest only remedial measures. I hope this helps. With best regards, Ramadas

Rao. Muhammad Imran <astroimran > wrote:

Respected Rao jee, I am of your mind, that the ratna of lagnesh or karaka should

wear on right hand, whatever thier natuaral tendency (either natural malefic or

benefic). But I am too confronted an opinion as Gorangadas je told, that ratna

in left hand may helpful in curtailing the evil effects of graha. What do you

think, whether ratna of lords of dushtana bhavas (or functional malefics) can

wear in left or not. Regards. Imran Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in>

wrote:

OM KLEEM KRISHNAAYA NAMAH Dear Gauranga ji, You have stated that the gems for

malefic planets like Saturn and Rahu be worn in left hand and I disagree this.I

am a Makara Lagna person with Makara Rasi with Lagna lord Shani ® in 9th house

in Kanya Rasi and I stared wearing 3 carats of Dark Blue saphire from 1988

during my Guru dasa and after wearing in profession there was huge gains like

promotions etc and especially it has improved my spiritualism.Also when Shani

Dasa started in 1989 it started giving its valuable auspicious results and You

may be surprised that Just before 5 days of Kuwait invasion by Iraq .I left on

Vacation with my family to India and really Shani has saved me.During 1991 I

got a Guru also who initiated me with Sri Bhuvaneshwari Mantra and after that

By the Grace Of Her,I have not looked backward.So I don't understand why Blue

Saphire has to be put in left hand.Anyhow I will not advise anybody who comes

to me for astrological advise to wear Blue saphire in the left hand. With best

regards, Ramadas Rao. Gauranga Das <gauranga (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net> wrote: JAYA

JAGANNATHA!Dear Jyotisha,Namaste.> Hi, The theory about not wearing gems of

planets in a dusthana would> definitely not apply to moon as it is routinely

stated in all books> of vedic astrology that the house in which moon is placed

becomes> like a lagna.It is mentioned in all leading astro books that a planet>

in the 12th behaves like as if it is imprisoned.Moon primarily> represents mind.

I therefore see no reason why it should not be> strengthened,particularly when

it is in bondage in view of its> position in the 12th.In these circumstances i

see no malefic effect> whatsoever in wearing a pearl by this native.I would

definitely like> to know what specific malefic effect is being anticipated by

Sh.Das> in this case by wearing a pearl and why so.Incidentally i may mention>

here that both Cheiro and Linda Goodman who are leading international>

celebrities in the field do rcommend wearing a pearl by birth no.2> people.I

would also love to know from the native whether he had any> problems after he

wore a pearl.As regards wearing of pearl in left> hand,i have no problem with

that since all books on vedic astrology> recommend wearing a pearl in left hand

only in all given> circumstances.In fact leading western astrologers are of the

opinion> that it is sufficient if a gemstone merely touches the skin.The>

conclusions of western astrologers which are generally drawn after> painstaking

reseach can in no circumstances be considered to be> devoid of logic.In thge end

i may mention that for prescribing a gem> it is the lordship of the planet which

carries more weight than> placement.ByeA few thoughts regarding pearls and

Ashish's chart:Moon is a very gentle planet, so most of the poeple like ewaring

pearls andfeel no problems with them. However in some cases you may feel

constrainedor depressed after strengthening the Moon if it's badly placed,

aspected orassociated. So the golden rule for any gems is to put on, wear for a

fewmonths and see how you feel like. Then put down, see the difference. If

it'sbetter wearing than not, then go ahead. The main point is that any gem

willhave a very subtle influence on the personality and other featiures of

thenative. I have seen people being completely changed while weraing

geme,sespecially if there were 2/3 different (often times naturallt or

temporallyconflicting) planets. As soon as the native put the gems down, he

became hisreal self. So watch out for these effects.Next thought: Chandra Lagna

or shubha. True, the sign and Nakshatra ocuppiedby the Moon becomes auspicious,

and can be treated like a Lagna for a mentalor emotional perspective of the

chart. However Moon is sensitive, so youshould consider all influences on her

before strengthening the sign she isplaced in. But in the case of Ashish, by

wearing pokhraj, the SubhapatiJupiter is strengthened, and a smoother effect

could be reached in myopinion.Next thought on left hand: There is a substantial

differtence between theright and left hands, both for males and females. The

right hand isconsidered to be more pure, so while offering things to Bhagavan

in puja, oreating Mahaprasad, or giving a donation, etc. the right hand is

used.Similarly, if wering gems which are naturally or functionally benefic

forthe native, the pious effect gets increased. The left hand is considered

tobe more contaminated, so if we touch anything impure, the left hand shouldbe

preferred. Also, if we want to get rid of the malefic effect of a crtainplanet,

by weaing the gem on the left hand, this purification will takeplace. However

here continuous wearing is usually not recommended. I woudlprefer putting all

malefic gems like Neelam, Gomed etc. on the left hand.Next thought on Moon's

effect in Ashish's chart: Moon in Pisces is veryfavourable for spirituality and

renunciation, especially noting thatSubhapati is in 12th from it. She is

vargottama, and strengthening her mayeven be favourable for wealth (Sri Lagna

conjoining). However Moon isAtmakaraka, so we usually don't strengthen the

Atmakaraka, but rather theIshta. Hanuman got a Ruby ring from Rama which he had

to deliver to SitaDevi. This ruby represented Sri Rama. Also, Moon in 12th is

unfavourable formother's luck and longevity. Moon is in badhaka sthana from

Mars (sthirakaraka for mother) so her longevity may also get hindered. So again

I wouldrecommend wearing the gem for the ishta devata Jupiter.Yours,Gauranga Das

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Hi, I do not think that wearing gems of vipreet rajayogas means

giving kick to another person.There is no logic in this

statement.Yes,what you say may apply to gemotherapy as a whole.Some

say that the moment you are wearing a gem,you are taking some more

light from a planet than what was due to you and thus depriving

another.This is worth a thought though.I agree about gems having

effect on mind etc and soul being another cup of tea.Though there is

some validity about your statement that benefic or malefic has to be

determined from different starting points,the fact remains that lagna

retains the pride of place-on account of it corresponding to the

point of sunrise--the soul entering the body.Wearing a Ruby for Sun

in your case can can give tension only if Sun is in a hot

sign.See,for me astrology is more in the nature of perception of the

properties of planets and the effect they cause in the different

parts of the zodiac,rather than going by any set rules.You have

mentioned about me being an Indian.Yes,i am,a proud Indian.But i

don't believe that being an Indian has got anything to do with being

illogical.When comparing mouth and anus,you are forgetting that anus

removes the dirt which the mouth takes in.The role of the anus is

equally important if not more than the mouth.The dirt or the impurity

is in the thought and not in the part of the body.It is the thought

which is impure/perverse/evil and not any part of the body.In fact

the anus works hard and gives up.Mouth is only bhogha.If in this

context you compare the signs taurus and scorpio,you will get the

answer.In fact scorpio is much more spiritual.I consider myself lucky

to be born a Hindu,because this great religion absorbs and

encompasses everything.But it is not possible for me to agree to the

irrationalities that seem to have been promoted by vested interests-

over the years with a veiw to commerciallise religion. Belief in

charismas and miracles---to the heights of absurdity is one such

irrationality.See,how many---i think we have thousands of Gurus in

India all teaching their own things,performing miracles and telling

us to stop thinking.Faith in miracles has made us a lazy society and

thus we have lagged behind as a nation inspite of a great religion

and culture.As i therefore said i can't agree to your suggestion

that left is impure. It appeals more to my logic that the whole body

is pure or impure depending on your karma.You are referring to our

culture.I know that in some parts of india women were considered

impure (more so in menses).Can that ever have any justification.Women

are more divine than men.They have the power of reproduction,which

men don't have and are therefore as much divine.Men have more hair on

their bodies,which makes them closer to animals.Then can anyone say

that his mother is impure.As i said earlier,saying left is impure is

like saying women are impure ----- that illogical.Bye RKIn vedic-

astrology, Gauranga Das <gauranga@b...> wrote:

> JAYA JAGANNATHA!

>

> Dear Rupkrishen,

>

> Namaste.

>

> > Hello Mr.Das, Your reply is profound and i appreciate your

manner of

> > explaining things.I agree totally with your view that a gemstone

> > needs to be tested before use.Only the wearer can finally say

what is

> > good for him.However i would say that no fixed rules can be set

while

> > prescribing a gem.It is the totality of the horoscope which has

to be

> > judged.To say that gems relating to planets in a dusthana should

not

>

> I agree that totality should be judged, however we are supposed to

use some

> guidelines when judging the totality of the chart. So dusthanas

giving bad

> effect is also one of the rules. I agree that if the planet is

giving

> Vipreet Rajyoga, then you can consider risking the malefic effects

to get

> the benefic ones. Remember that Vipreer Rajyoga means that someone

will lose

> out for you to win. So if you want to give another kick to the bad

happening

> to the other person then you can try to wear a disthana gem.

>

> On the general I think we should first consider thoroughly what are

the

> different roles played by a certain planet in a chart, and als

consider what

> Sarajit explained on AK: gems will mostly have an effect on the

body and the

> mind, and karma as well, but the soul is another cup of tea.

>

> > be worn is not a correct statement.Planets in dusthanas grant

> > vipreetraj yogas.Gems relating to vipreet rajyogas have given a

lot

> > to people.Top spiritualists of the world have planets in 8th or

12th

> > bhavas.In my opinion dusthanas are not totally bad.In fact going a

> > step further i would say that all houses, like all signs have some

> > good points and some bad points.After all houses are no different

> > from signs.Therefore when all signs have some positve and negative

> > traits,so are all houses bound to have.It is one's karma which

culls

> > out the good or bad out of the respective houses or signs.

>

> Agree, and also every planet will have some percentage of good and

bad

> effects (see vimsopaka bala for judgement). However my concern was

that if

> the planet is giving not only benefic effects (which is usually the

case),

> then you should consider and decide what risk you would like to

take. I'm

> wearing my lagnesh's stone Ruby which mostly has benefic effects on

the 5th

> house and the 9th also in my chart. However Sun being a natural

malefic may

> still cause some tension in my life. So one has to judge

accordingly.

>

> While

> > coming to your conclusion, you are forgetting that properties are

> > attributed to the planets by lordship and significations

(karaktawa)

> > and not occupation.It is the effects of a planet which are

attributed

> > to occupation.Effects,i am sure you will agree, are different from

> > properties.Thus whether a planet is malefic or benefic is more

> > related to its ownership rather than placement.

>

> Natural properties and functional properties are different as we

have

> discussed earlier. However you should note that benefic/malefic

qualities

> related to owbnership always depend on what is the strating point

we take.

> Lagna, or Moon, or AL, or what not? So it's multidimensional.

>

>

> You may also note that

> > moon's karaktava improves on account of its placement in the 12th

> > bhava,as said in a famous dictum in bhavarth ratnakara that a

> > planet's karaktawa gets better in the 12th bhava.

>

> I have not studied Bhavartha Ratnakara yet, as I don't have a copy

of it

> yet. But I'm interested to study it.

>

> Besides you are

> > totally ignoring the science of numerology when not agreeing to

the

> > pearl.That apart,i also do not agree to your statement that left

is

> > impure and right is pure.There is no logic to it.It is something

> > similar to saying that women are impure--- that foolish---

> > considering one's mother impure.I believe that the total body is

pure

> > or impure depending upon your karma.

>

> You are coming from India I guess. No cultured man in India (in

fact, in the

> whole Far East) would use his left hand while eating or use his

right hand

> while touching his private parts. You may conclude that the mouth

and anus

> are equally pure, still some distinction is made. Shatstra should

be studied

> in this regard, as Vedic tradition means not just knowledge but

culutre as

> well. Unfortunately even Indians nowadays torn their face to the

west and as

> a result lose their finer culture. Western people don't distinguish

between

> the two hands, and do whatever nonsense with both.

>

> Yours,

>

> Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer

> gauranga@b...

> Jyotish Remedies:

> WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET

> Phone:+36-309-140-839

>

>

> There is a lot of interest

> > generated on the topic.I have not found time to read all the

> > posts.But i was looking for your reply and found it very

> > nice.Disagreements are on principle only.Bye RK In vedic-

> > astrology, Gauranga Das <gauranga@b...> wrote:

> > > JAYA JAGANNATHA!

> > >

> > > Dear Jyotisha,

> > >

> > > Namaste.

> > >

> > >

> > > > Hi, The theory about not wearing gems of planets in a

dusthana

> > would

> > > > definitely not apply to moon as it is routinely stated in all

> > books

> > > > of vedic astrology that the house in which moon is placed

becomes

> > > > like a lagna.It is mentioned in all leading astro books that a

> > planet

> > > > in the 12th behaves like as if it is imprisoned.Moon primarily

> > > > represents mind. I therefore see no reason why it should not

be

> > > > strengthened,particularly when it is in bondage in view of its

> > > > position in the 12th.In these circumstances i see no malefic

> > effect

> > > > whatsoever in wearing a pearl by this native.I would

definitely

> > like

> > > > to know what specific malefic effect is being anticipated by

> > Sh.Das

> > > > in this case by wearing a pearl and why so.Incidentally i may

> > mention

> > > > here that both Cheiro and Linda Goodman who are leading

> > international

> > > > celebrities in the field do rcommend wearing a pearl by birth

no.2

> > > > people.I would also love to know from the native whether he

had

> > any

> > > > problems after he wore a pearl.As regards wearing of pearl in

left

> > > > hand,i have no problem with that since all books on vedic

> > astrology

> > > > recommend wearing a pearl in left hand only in all given

> > > > circumstances.In fact leading western astrologers are of the

> > opinion

> > > > that it is sufficient if a gemstone merely touches the

skin.The

> > > > conclusions of western astrologers which are generally drawn

after

> > > > painstaking reseach can in no circumstances be considered to

be

> > > > devoid of logic.In thge end i may mention that for

prescribing a

> > gem

> > > > it is the lordship of the planet which carries more weight

than

> > > > placement.Bye

> > >

> > > A few thoughts regarding pearls and Ashish's chart:

> > >

> > > Moon is a very gentle planet, so most of the poeple like ewaring

> > pearls and

> > > feel no problems with them. However in some cases you may feel

> > constrained

> > > or depressed after strengthening the Moon if it's badly placed,

> > aspected or

> > > associated. So the golden rule for any gems is to put on, wear

for

> > a few

> > > months and see how you feel like. Then put down, see the

> > difference. If it's

> > > better wearing than not, then go ahead. The main point is that

any

> > gem will

> > > have a very subtle influence on the personality and other

featiures

> > of the

> > > native. I have seen people being completely changed while

weraing

> > geme,s

> > > especially if there were 2/3 different (often times naturallt or

> > temporally

> > > conflicting) planets. As soon as the native put the gems down,

he

> > became his

> > > real self. So watch out for these effects.

> > >

> > > Next thought: Chandra Lagna or shubha. True, the sign and

Nakshatra

> > ocuppied

> > > by the Moon becomes auspicious, and can be treated like a Lagna

for

> > a mental

> > > or emotional perspective of the chart. However Moon is

sensitive,

> > so you

> > > should consider all influences on her before strengthening the

sign

> > she is

> > > placed in. But in the case of Ashish, by wearing pokhraj, the

> > Subhapati

> > > Jupiter is strengthened, and a smoother effect could be reached

in

> > my

> > > opinion.

> > >

> > > Next thought on left hand: There is a substantial differtence

> > between the

> > > right and left hands, both for males and females. The right

hand is

> > > considered to be more pure, so while offering things to

Bhagavan in

> > puja, or

> > > eating Mahaprasad, or giving a donation, etc. the right hand is

> > used.

> > > Similarly, if wering gems which are naturally or functionally

> > benefic for

> > > the native, the pious effect gets increased. The left hand is

> > considered to

> > > be more contaminated, so if we touch anything impure, the left

hand

> > should

> > > be preferred. Also, if we want to get rid of the malefic effect

of

> > a crtain

> > > planet, by weaing the gem on the left hand, this purification

will

> > take

> > > place. However here continuous wearing is usually not

recommended.

> > I woudl

> > > prefer putting all malefic gems like Neelam, Gomed etc. on the

left

> > hand.

> > >

> > > Next thought on Moon's effect in Ashish's chart: Moon in Pisces

is

> > very

> > > favourable for spirituality and renunciation, especially noting

that

> > > Subhapati is in 12th from it. She is vargottama, and

strengthening

> > her may

> > > even be favourable for wealth (Sri Lagna conjoining). However

Moon

> > is

> > > Atmakaraka, so we usually don't strengthen the Atmakaraka, but

> > rather the

> > > Ishta. Hanuman got a Ruby ring from Rama which he had to

deliver to

> > Sita

> > > Devi. This ruby represented Sri Rama. Also, Moon in 12th is

> > unfavourable for

> > > mother's luck and longevity. Moon is in badhaka sthana from Mars

> > (sthira

> > > karaka for mother) so her longevity may also get hindered. So

again

> > I would

> > > recommend wearing the gem for the ishta devata Jupiter.

> > >

> > > Yours,

> > >

> > > Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer

> > > gauranga@b...

> > > Jyotish Remedies:

> > > WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET

> > > Phone:+36-309-140-839

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Hi RK,

 

Couldn't agree. I feel Indians, and indeed the rest of the world, have

basically followed numbers. It's a fact that 97% of the world is

right-handed, so most rules and products are made for them. I've no doubt at

all that the genesis of all holiness associated with the right hand is just

this. I've a sis-in-law, who's as natural a southpaw as you can get, and she

does almost everything (nearly) including eating with her left hand. I can't

fancy telling her she's being unholy :)

 

If you noticed, Chandrashekhar, who's one of the more understated but not

under-respected posters hereabouts, concurred with me that left is for the

lefties what right is to most around them. Given the percentages, to flatly

associate holiness with the right hand alone would be easy to posit, but not

so easy to logically corroborate.

 

Warm regards,

 

Ram

 

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<rupkrishen

<vedic astrology>

Friday, February 07, 2003 12:55 PM

[vedic astrology] Re: Suitable Gems

 

 

> Hi, I do not think that wearing gems of vipreet rajayogas means

> giving kick to another person.There is no logic in this

> statement.Yes,what you say may apply to gemotherapy as a whole.Some

> say that the moment you are wearing a gem,you are taking some more

> light from a planet than what was due to you and thus depriving

> another.This is worth a thought though.I agree about gems having

> effect on mind etc and soul being another cup of tea.Though there is

> some validity about your statement that benefic or malefic has to be

> determined from different starting points,the fact remains that lagna

> retains the pride of place-on account of it corresponding to the

> point of sunrise--the soul entering the body.Wearing a Ruby for Sun

> in your case can can give tension only if Sun is in a hot

> sign.See,for me astrology is more in the nature of perception of the

> properties of planets and the effect they cause in the different

> parts of the zodiac,rather than going by any set rules.You have

> mentioned about me being an Indian.Yes,i am,a proud Indian.But i

> don't believe that being an Indian has got anything to do with being

> illogical.When comparing mouth and anus,you are forgetting that anus

> removes the dirt which the mouth takes in.The role of the anus is

> equally important if not more than the mouth.The dirt or the impurity

> is in the thought and not in the part of the body.It is the thought

> which is impure/perverse/evil and not any part of the body.In fact

> the anus works hard and gives up.Mouth is only bhogha.If in this

> context you compare the signs taurus and scorpio,you will get the

> answer.In fact scorpio is much more spiritual.I consider myself lucky

> to be born a Hindu,because this great religion absorbs and

> encompasses everything.But it is not possible for me to agree to the

> irrationalities that seem to have been promoted by vested interests-

> over the years with a veiw to commerciallise religion. Belief in

> charismas and miracles---to the heights of absurdity is one such

> irrationality.See,how many---i think we have thousands of Gurus in

> India all teaching their own things,performing miracles and telling

> us to stop thinking.Faith in miracles has made us a lazy society and

> thus we have lagged behind as a nation inspite of a great religion

> and culture.As i therefore said i can't agree to your suggestion

> that left is impure. It appeals more to my logic that the whole body

> is pure or impure depending on your karma.You are referring to our

> culture.I know that in some parts of india women were considered

> impure (more so in menses).Can that ever have any justification.Women

> are more divine than men.They have the power of reproduction,which

> men don't have and are therefore as much divine.Men have more hair on

> their bodies,which makes them closer to animals.Then can anyone say

> that his mother is impure.As i said earlier,saying left is impure is

> like saying women are impure ----- that illogical.Bye RK

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Om Gurave Namah

Dear Ramapriya

Right hand is ruled by Jupiter and left hand by Venus. See the dhyana for

Sukracharya & Brihaspati in VRA and the hands to be used for making

offering.

The entire dasmahavidya is nothing but left handed worship whereas the

dasavatar pooja is right handed worship.

The natural favor is seen in the way a person sits in Sukhasana. If the

person sits with the left leg down then he has stronger Jupiter and 'para

loka sukha' while if the person sits with right leg down, then he favours

the left hand and 'iha loka sukha'. There are so many such small things.

At the feet of Guru Pandita Kasinatha,

I remain,

Sanjay Rath

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Friday, February 07, 2003 1:32 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Suitable Gems

 

 

> Hi RK,

>

> Couldn't agree. I feel Indians, and indeed the rest of the world, have

> basically followed numbers. It's a fact that 97% of the world is

> right-handed, so most rules and products are made for them. I've no doubt

at

> all that the genesis of all holiness associated with the right hand is

just

> this. I've a sis-in-law, who's as natural a southpaw as you can get, and

she

> does almost everything (nearly) including eating with her left hand. I

can't

> fancy telling her she's being unholy :)

>

> If you noticed, Chandrashekhar, who's one of the more understated but not

> under-respected posters hereabouts, concurred with me that left is for the

> lefties what right is to most around them. Given the percentages, to

flatly

> associate holiness with the right hand alone would be easy to posit, but

not

> so easy to logically corroborate.

>

> Warm regards,

>

> Ram

>

> -

> <rupkrishen

> <vedic astrology>

> Friday, February 07, 2003 12:55 PM

> [vedic astrology] Re: Suitable Gems

>

>

> > Hi, I do not think that wearing gems of vipreet rajayogas means

> > giving kick to another person.There is no logic in this

> > statement.Yes,what you say may apply to gemotherapy as a whole.Some

> > say that the moment you are wearing a gem,you are taking some more

> > light from a planet than what was due to you and thus depriving

> > another.This is worth a thought though.I agree about gems having

> > effect on mind etc and soul being another cup of tea.Though there is

> > some validity about your statement that benefic or malefic has to be

> > determined from different starting points,the fact remains that lagna

> > retains the pride of place-on account of it corresponding to the

> > point of sunrise--the soul entering the body.Wearing a Ruby for Sun

> > in your case can can give tension only if Sun is in a hot

> > sign.See,for me astrology is more in the nature of perception of the

> > properties of planets and the effect they cause in the different

> > parts of the zodiac,rather than going by any set rules.You have

> > mentioned about me being an Indian.Yes,i am,a proud Indian.But i

> > don't believe that being an Indian has got anything to do with being

> > illogical.When comparing mouth and anus,you are forgetting that anus

> > removes the dirt which the mouth takes in.The role of the anus is

> > equally important if not more than the mouth.The dirt or the impurity

> > is in the thought and not in the part of the body.It is the thought

> > which is impure/perverse/evil and not any part of the body.In fact

> > the anus works hard and gives up.Mouth is only bhogha.If in this

> > context you compare the signs taurus and scorpio,you will get the

> > answer.In fact scorpio is much more spiritual.I consider myself lucky

> > to be born a Hindu,because this great religion absorbs and

> > encompasses everything.But it is not possible for me to agree to the

> > irrationalities that seem to have been promoted by vested interests-

> > over the years with a veiw to commerciallise religion. Belief in

> > charismas and miracles---to the heights of absurdity is one such

> > irrationality.See,how many---i think we have thousands of Gurus in

> > India all teaching their own things,performing miracles and telling

> > us to stop thinking.Faith in miracles has made us a lazy society and

> > thus we have lagged behind as a nation inspite of a great religion

> > and culture.As i therefore said i can't agree to your suggestion

> > that left is impure. It appeals more to my logic that the whole body

> > is pure or impure depending on your karma.You are referring to our

> > culture.I know that in some parts of india women were considered

> > impure (more so in menses).Can that ever have any justification.Women

> > are more divine than men.They have the power of reproduction,which

> > men don't have and are therefore as much divine.Men have more hair on

> > their bodies,which makes them closer to animals.Then can anyone say

> > that his mother is impure.As i said earlier,saying left is impure is

> > like saying women are impure ----- that illogical.Bye RK

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

>

>

>

>

>

>

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JAYA JAGANNATHA!

 

Dear Ramapriya,

 

Namaste

 

One is supposed to chant the Gayatri Mantra with the upavita (brahmana

thread) wrapped around his right hand. Even if he is a southpaw. Also every

brahmin wears the upavita hanging down from his left shoulder to the right

side. No opposites. Please see the divison of Horas. Sun-hora is for

Devatas, while Moon-hora is for Pitris. So only pitri-homa is done with the

upavita put on the other way around. Therefore this should be followed

universally, no matter one is a southpaw or not. Therefore my conclusion is

that for wearing gems we should also follow the same system regardless of

the below factor. Vidhi (rules and regulations) are manifested by Lord

Vishnu through Brahma (this is also one of his names). So even if it seems

illogical, we should respect them and by humbe enquiry you might be able to

understand it. Also for touching water or acamaniyam (like if one wants to

chant a mantra) or for anga-nyasa and kara-nyasa always the right hand is

used.

 

Yours,

 

Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer

gauranga

Jyotish Remedies:

WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET

Phone:+36-309-140-839

 

 

-

"Ramapriya D" <hubli

<vedic astrology>

Friday, February 07, 2003 9:02 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Suitable Gems

 

 

> Hi RK,

>

> Couldn't agree. I feel Indians, and indeed the rest of the world, have

> basically followed numbers. It's a fact that 97% of the world is

> right-handed, so most rules and products are made for them. I've no doubt

at

> all that the genesis of all holiness associated with the right hand is

just

> this. I've a sis-in-law, who's as natural a southpaw as you can get, and

she

> does almost everything (nearly) including eating with her left hand. I

can't

> fancy telling her she's being unholy :)

>

> If you noticed, Chandrashekhar, who's one of the more understated but not

> under-respected posters hereabouts, concurred with me that left is for the

> lefties what right is to most around them. Given the percentages, to

flatly

> associate holiness with the right hand alone would be easy to posit, but

not

> so easy to logically corroborate.

>

> Warm regards,

>

> Ram

>

> -

> <rupkrishen

> <vedic astrology>

> Friday, February 07, 2003 12:55 PM

> [vedic astrology] Re: Suitable Gems

>

>

> > Hi, I do not think that wearing gems of vipreet rajayogas means

> > giving kick to another person.There is no logic in this

> > statement.Yes,what you say may apply to gemotherapy as a whole.Some

> > say that the moment you are wearing a gem,you are taking some more

> > light from a planet than what was due to you and thus depriving

> > another.This is worth a thought though.I agree about gems having

> > effect on mind etc and soul being another cup of tea.Though there is

> > some validity about your statement that benefic or malefic has to be

> > determined from different starting points,the fact remains that lagna

> > retains the pride of place-on account of it corresponding to the

> > point of sunrise--the soul entering the body.Wearing a Ruby for Sun

> > in your case can can give tension only if Sun is in a hot

> > sign.See,for me astrology is more in the nature of perception of the

> > properties of planets and the effect they cause in the different

> > parts of the zodiac,rather than going by any set rules.You have

> > mentioned about me being an Indian.Yes,i am,a proud Indian.But i

> > don't believe that being an Indian has got anything to do with being

> > illogical.When comparing mouth and anus,you are forgetting that anus

> > removes the dirt which the mouth takes in.The role of the anus is

> > equally important if not more than the mouth.The dirt or the impurity

> > is in the thought and not in the part of the body.It is the thought

> > which is impure/perverse/evil and not any part of the body.In fact

> > the anus works hard and gives up.Mouth is only bhogha.If in this

> > context you compare the signs taurus and scorpio,you will get the

> > answer.In fact scorpio is much more spiritual.I consider myself lucky

> > to be born a Hindu,because this great religion absorbs and

> > encompasses everything.But it is not possible for me to agree to the

> > irrationalities that seem to have been promoted by vested interests-

> > over the years with a veiw to commerciallise religion. Belief in

> > charismas and miracles---to the heights of absurdity is one such

> > irrationality.See,how many---i think we have thousands of Gurus in

> > India all teaching their own things,performing miracles and telling

> > us to stop thinking.Faith in miracles has made us a lazy society and

> > thus we have lagged behind as a nation inspite of a great religion

> > and culture.As i therefore said i can't agree to your suggestion

> > that left is impure. It appeals more to my logic that the whole body

> > is pure or impure depending on your karma.You are referring to our

> > culture.I know that in some parts of india women were considered

> > impure (more so in menses).Can that ever have any justification.Women

> > are more divine than men.They have the power of reproduction,which

> > men don't have and are therefore as much divine.Men have more hair on

> > their bodies,which makes them closer to animals.Then can anyone say

> > that his mother is impure.As i said earlier,saying left is impure is

> > like saying women are impure ----- that illogical.Bye RK

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

>

>

>

> Your use of is subject to

>

>

>

>

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