Bliss (was Chanting, silent mantra, inner sound)

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>laurence beyer <larbeyer9

 

>To bliss or not to bliss? I'm not exactly sure what I mean by this

>either. I know that I experience bliss from time to time during

>sadhana, and during my day to day mundane life. My first inclination

>is to want to go for it, but then at the same time I want to go beyond

>it because I figure if I'm blissed out my ego is hanging around and

>I'm not experiencing samadhi.

 

Hi Larry & all,

 

I'm new on this list and have missed the first part of this discussion, but

the remarks above intrigued me. Is the issue, perhaps, about clinging to an

particular idea of results that is the problem with going for bliss as *the*

objective of meditation? I wonder if meditation isn't most helpful to us

when we just do it without expectation of particular outcomes? Then we are

less apt to get in the way of our *appropriate* outcomes as they came to us

- all the way from stress reduction and increased mental alertness through

the range of self-healing, acquisition of insight, bliss, samadhi, whatever.

 

It seems to me that bliss is just one of the many things that happen as we

practice, and it's important to experience it and then let it dissolve

naturally when it is ready to do so. It helps to open the heart. One of the

things I've discovered from long practice is that the bliss gradually tends

to become a sort of built-in background state, a quiet hum of joy in the

back of the mind and heart that is just there as a normal part of being.

This does not preclude other emotions on the surface, but they are easily

seen to be passing phenomena, to be experienced, to be released, while the

underlying joy remains.

 

Forgive me, please, for jumping in without introducing myself, but all my

secrets can be found on the two web sites in my sig file. Well, most of them

anyway.

 

Jesa

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>Jesa Macbeth <jesamac

 

 

>Hi Larry & all,

>

>I'm new on this list and have missed the first part of this discussion, but

>the remarks above intrigued me

 

Hi Jesa

 

Welcome to the Kundalini Yoga list. I've read your two postings with

interest and also taken a look at your website addresses - a lot of very

good information there, and I'll be adding them to the bookmarks section.

 

One point for you and all other new rs - if you want to check back

on previous messages in this thread, go to our archives - click on

Kundaliniyoga at the ONElist Member Center and then click on archives - you

can then browse around.

 

Namaste

Gordon