Question on SamaashrayaNam

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Respected Bhakthas,

I had a question regarding samaashrayanam. My wife and I have got the

oppurtunity now to get samaashrayanam(pancha samskaaram) done by our

Acharya. But my wife is pregnant now. I wanted to know if there are any

restrictions on pregnant women getting samaashrayanam done. Thanks.

--

Regards,

Nagaraj

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Sri:

Srimathe Ramanujaya nama:

Dear Sriman Nagaraj,

 

Humble praNAms to you. It's great to hear about your

samAShrayaNam. As far as I know(which I cross checked with my Great

AcAryA Sri Chinna Jeeyar),it shouldn't be a problem except that

women should not get it done during their monthly cycles nor

should they perform any thiru ArAdhanam on those days. samAShrayaNam

is nothing to do with marriage also nor with husband!

This is between the jIvAtmA, AcAryA and the God! I was of this

opinion but then couple of devotees raised doubts in me before I had

mine, so I specifically asked my AcAryA. My AcAryA told me that the

only criterion for a woman is that she should have attained her

womanhood before samAShrayaNam is being done.

 

In the olden days, females used to get married even

before their cycles started and hence they had their samAShrayaNam

after marriage and esp., after they attained the age. If there were

conditions for pregnant women, my AcAryA would have told me! To be

on the safe isde, I will ask my AcAryA and let you know. Basically

samAShrayaNam means sam(through)+ AShrayaNam(refuge/sharaNAgati).

We're doing this sharaNAgati through an AcAryA(as AcAryA is the

doorstep to the Lord).

 

One can easily get husband,wife etc but one has to be blessed(not by

his/her self-efforts but by His grace) to get an AcAryA from Ramanuja

Sampradaya.

May be you should ask your AcAryA himself before undergoing samAShrayaNam.

All true AcAryAs will not mind a person asking any genuine question/

doubt and they will transfer the right knowledge only! Any errors

are subject to correction.

 

AzhvAr emperumAnAr jIyar thiruvadigaLE sharaNam

dAsAnu dAsI

NC Nappinnai

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Sri:

Srimathe Ramanujaya nama:

Dear devotees,

One small correction to my previous post on the same. I

used a wrong word "criterion" for samAshrayaNam. Basically, there is

no restriction(at atma level) other than the interest itself! But it

would be better if one undergoes the same after realizing "I'm not

the body". When I don't even know the difference between the body

and the AtmA(when I'm young), how do I understand thirumanthram? I

know a friend who had his samAshrayaNam when he was 5 or 6 and he

goes behind some other tradition now! To put swamiji's words

exactly, HH said, it is nothing to do with marriage. That's all.

Sri Chinna Jeeyar swamiji said if there is birth/death, then there

is a 15 day pollution period and 4 day for women. On these days one

doesn't get it done nor one performs any kaimkaryam.

 

In the olden days the scenario was different. Women

were taken care of by the father/brother until the marriage and then

husband. But who takes cares of the father/brother/husband? It is

srIman nArAyaNA ONLY! This is the meaning for the three knots in

mAngalyam also. The third is eternally valid. The first two can be

negated and is not strictly valid(unlike the third one)in current

conditions. So one should know the exact meaning behind

samAshrayaNam.

 

tvamEva mAtA ca pitA tvamEva, tvamEva bandhus ca gurus tvamEva |

tvamEva vidyA draviNam tvamEva, tvamEva sarvam mama dEvadEva ||

 

AzhvAr emperumAnAr jIyar thiruvadigaLE sharaNam

adiyEn rAmAnuja dAsI

NC Nappinnai

[Guest guest]

Srimathe Ramunajaya Nama:

 

Adiyen has got a doubt regarding SamaashrayaNam. If SamaashrayaNam is done, one

should not eat the food cooked outside or which contains Onions. But these days

working People it is difficult to cook by themselves. To the extent possible if

we can follow certain principles, can we get it done. Of course only if perumals

grace should be there.

 

jIyar thiruvadigaLE sharaNam

Balaji V N

 

 

vaidhehi_nc <nappinnai_nc wrote:

 

Sri:

Srimathe Ramanujaya nama:

Dear Sriman Nagaraj,

 

Humble praNAms to you. It's great to hear about your

samAShrayaNam. As far as I know(which I cross checked with my Great

AcAryA Sri Chinna Jeeyar),it shouldn't be a problem except that

women should not get it done during their monthly cycles nor

should they perform any thiru ArAdhanam on those days. samAShrayaNam

is nothing to do with marriage also nor with husband!

This is between the jIvAtmA, AcAryA and the God! I was of this

opinion but then couple of devotees raised doubts in me before I had

mine, so I specifically asked my AcAryA. My AcAryA told me that the

only criterion for a woman is that she should have attained her

womanhood before samAShrayaNam is being done.

 

In the olden days, females used to get married even

before their cycles started and hence they had their samAShrayaNam

after marriage and esp., after they attained the age. If there were

conditions for pregnant women, my AcAryA would have told me! To be

on the safe isde, I will ask my AcAryA and let you know. Basically

samAShrayaNam means sam(through)+ AShrayaNam(refuge/sharaNAgati).

We're doing this sharaNAgati through an AcAryA(as AcAryA is the

doorstep to the Lord).

 

One can easily get husband,wife etc but one has to be blessed(not by

his/her self-efforts but by His grace) to get an AcAryA from Ramanuja

Sampradaya.

May be you should ask your AcAryA himself before undergoing samAShrayaNam.

All true AcAryAs will not mind a person asking any genuine question/

doubt and they will transfer the right knowledge only! Any errors

are subject to correction.

 

AzhvAr emperumAnAr jIyar thiruvadigaLE sharaNam

dAsAnu dAsI

NC Nappinnai

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Dear Sriman Balaji,

 

In srivaishnava families, one is NOT supposed to eat onions even before

samASrayaNam right from birth. We are nowadays making a lot of compromises.

These compromises should not come in the way of our religion as we tend to be

the best at heart.

 

adiyEn rAmAnuja dAsan

Vishnu

 

BALAJI IYENGAR <balajivn2000 wrote:

 

 

Srimathe Ramunajaya Nama:

 

Adiyen has got a doubt regarding SamaashrayaNam. If SamaashrayaNam is done, one

should not eat the food cooked outside or which contains Onions. But these days

working People it is difficult to cook by themselves. To the extent possible if

we can follow certain principles, can we get it done. Of course only if perumals

grace should be there.

 

jIyar thiruvadigaLE sharaNam

Balaji V N

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Sri:

Srimathe Ramanujaya nama:

Dear Sriman Balaji,

I would say that people(who plan to undergo or already

undergone samAshrayaNam)should learn/know basic cooking! Problem

solved!.

 

This food topic reminds me to ask: Is guha

(who offered non-veg to perumAL) an SV?

 

dAsAnu dAsI

NC Nappinnai

 

> BALAJI IYENGAR <balajivn2000> wrote:

>

>

> Srimathe Ramunajaya Nama:

>

> Adiyen has got a doubt regarding SamaashrayaNam. If SamaashrayaNam

is done, one should not eat the food cooked outside or which

contains Onions. But these days working People it is difficult to

cook by themselves. To the extent possible if we can follow certain

principles, can we get it done. Of course only if perumals grace

should be there.

>

> jIyar thiruvadigaLE sharaNam

> Balaji V N

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krshNa says:

 

api chEt su durAchArO BhajatE mAm ananya bhAk

sAdhurEva sa mantavya: samyak vyavasitOhi sa:

 

If someone adheres to all bad practices but has undivided SEshatva

buddhi for Me, he is a pious man (Sadhu). Ramanuja says such a person

is vaishNavAgrEsara (best vaishNava). ParASara bhattar clarifies this

SlOka tells that Lord does not discrminate on the basis of vrttam or

habits.

 

bhUta dayA is a blessing for the Vaishnava and it is the natural

habit of a Vaishnava not to eat non-veg. SrIguhapperumAL is the best

SriVaishNava and all his dOshams (if any) are bhOgyam for the Lord.

 

What is Bhakti? swAmini dAsasya anurAga mayI sthiti: says Bhattar.

For the Lord, the state of love of the subservient chEtana. This is

the basic definition.

 

archanA does not mean buying ticket in the temple for Bhattar, it is

some service (to Him and His devotees) out of our Bhakti (anurAga

yukta SEshatva budhhi).

 

adiyEn rAmAnuja dAsan

Vishnu

 

>

> This food topic reminds me to ask: Is guha

> (who offered non-veg to perumAL) an SV?

>

> dAsAnu dAsI

> NC Nappinnai

>

> > BALAJI IYENGAR <balajivn2000> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Srimathe Ramunajaya Nama:

> >

> > Adiyen has got a doubt regarding SamaashrayaNam. If

SamaashrayaNam

> is done, one should not eat the food cooked outside or which

> contains Onions. But these days working People it is difficult to

> cook by themselves. To the extent possible if we can follow certain

> principles, can we get it done. Of course only if perumals grace

> should be there.

> >

> > jIyar thiruvadigaLE sharaNam

> > Balaji V N