Visit to Tiruvannamalai & Ramanashramam

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Hello Jacqueline,

How wonderful to be in Thiruvannamalai for Mahashivaratri. Its the most

beautiful place on the planet for me.

You don’t say, if you have been to India before. If you have, just delete this mail.

Otherwise my advice to you is, not to burden yourself with too large an

itinerary and “must visits” . Sometimes less can be more. Such a

short trip can be quite a strain, so take it easy, spend as much time as you

can in the old hall or on the mountain. I love Skandashram and the view from

there a lot. Also the big Arunachaleswarar Temple. You can see the Patala

Linga, where Ramana sat when he first arrived.

Have a safe journey.

Namah Shivaya

Christina

Am 1/30/03 1:26 schrieb "jacqueline_jacques <jacqueline_jacques >"

unter <jacqueline_jacques >:

Hello all!

I am a Canadian who lives in London UK. I read regularly the messages

on this forum and this helps me a lot in my practice. I have been

blessed to be introduced by a friend to Ramana Maharshi's teachings 6

months ago.

I have been involved with spiritual (New Age) groups for more than 25

years. I have at last found the teachings that speak to my soul! Now,

I have to "un-learn" all what I have been taught during these 25

years! To facilitate the transition to these new Teachings, I have

decided to go to Tiruvannamalai for the MahaSivaratri (March 1st). So

I will be in Tiruvannamalai from February 22nd to March 15th.

I intend to visit Ramanasharama (I have a room confirmed for 1 week),

Arunachala, the caves, the pradakshina, the holy temple.

Unfortunately, I might not be able to perform the whole pradakshina

as I have a difficulty walking (but I do not give up yet...). I

intend to visit also a few ashrams around (Yogi Ramsuratkumar ashram,

Seshadri ashram). I was sorry to hear that Lakshmana Swami does not

give public darshan during the MahaSivaratri.

I really think that Bhagavan's teachings (including Self-Inquiry) are

right for me and I know that this trip will be very important. Ramana

Maharshi & Arunachala & Lord Shiva!! WOW! I have always been a

devotee of Lord Siva (I used to sing bahjans to Arunachala without

knowing that it was HIS mountain).

I know that some of you are very knowledgeable about all what

concerns Bhagavan & Arunachala. My purpose for my trip is to do a

retreat (not a tourist trip).

My question today: As a devotee/student of Ramana Maharshi, is there

any thing (event, person, place) I should not miss while in

Tiruvannamalai and around?

Many thanks for your help

Namaste!

Jacqueline

 

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Hello all!

 

I am a Canadian who lives in London UK. I read regularly the messages

on this forum and this helps me a lot in my practice. I have been

blessed to be introduced by a friend to Ramana Maharshi's teachings 6

months ago.

 

I have been involved with spiritual (New Age) groups for more than 25

years. I have at last found the teachings that speak to my soul! Now,

I have to "un-learn" all what I have been taught during these 25

years! To facilitate the transition to these new Teachings, I have

decided to go to Tiruvannamalai for the MahaSivaratri (March 1st). So

I will be in Tiruvannamalai from February 22nd to March 15th.

 

I intend to visit Ramanasharama (I have a room confirmed for 1 week),

Arunachala, the caves, the pradakshina, the holy temple.

Unfortunately, I might not be able to perform the whole pradakshina

as I have a difficulty walking (but I do not give up yet...). I

intend to visit also a few ashrams around (Yogi Ramsuratkumar ashram,

Seshadri ashram). I was sorry to hear that Lakshmana Swami does not

give public darshan during the MahaSivaratri.

I really think that Bhagavan's teachings (including Self-Inquiry) are

right for me and I know that this trip will be very important. Ramana

Maharshi & Arunachala & Lord Shiva!! WOW! I have always been a

devotee of Lord Siva (I used to sing bahjans to Arunachala without

knowing that it was HIS mountain).

I know that some of you are very knowledgeable about all what

concerns Bhagavan & Arunachala. My purpose for my trip is to do a

retreat (not a tourist trip).

My question today: As a devotee/student of Ramana Maharshi, is there

any thing (event, person, place) I should not miss while in

Tiruvannamalai and around?

Many thanks for your help

 

Namaste!

Jacqueline

[Guest guest]

First, to Dear Alton: every path leads to Ramana path (if you can

call it a path); whatever tenet one belongs to or even if one does

not belong to any tenet or path or group, they still belong to Self;

in common terms, they cannot ever deny their own existence; they

cannot deny that they continue to exist even when they are in deep

sleep completely unaware of their own identity leave alone the

external world; hence, if the chosen path is followed sincerely, and

the key word is 'sincerely', Maharshi will be found because Maharshi

is everywhere as the Supreme Self; love...

 

Dear Jacqueline: Welcome to the group; this writer is also planning

to be in India (specifically Chennai) during end Feb-beg. March; and

planning to travel to Arunachala at least once if not more; have been

there in 2001 for the first and the only time, though born and raised

in India; presently reside in the USA for the past 11+ years. (in

California now). Please be in touch, may be the paths will meet;

meditate in the hall..., love...

 

 

RamanaMaharshi, "jacqueline_jacques

<jacqueline_jacques>" <jacqueline_jacques> wrote:

> Hello all!

>

> I am a Canadian who lives in London UK. I read regularly the

messages

> on this forum and this helps me a lot in my practice. I have been

> blessed to be introduced by a friend to Ramana Maharshi's teachings

6

> months ago.

>

[Guest guest]

sorry the name of this b/m/i combination was left out in the prev.

reply : Murthy

 

also Jacqueline, please understand that you are not alone in un-

learning; all of us, with almost no exceptions, have to un-learn what

we have learnt and belive since the b/m/i illusion started; in fact

we just have to un-realize and not necessarily realize...

 

since you have been 'treated' so far in a particular way, it is good

that you treat your trip as a "re-treat" and not a tourist trip...

 

love....

 

 

RamanaMaharshi, "jacqueline_jacques

<jacqueline_jacques>" <jacqueline_jacques> wrote:

> Hello all!

>

> I am a Canadian who lives in London UK. I read regularly the

messages

[Guest guest]

Dear Jacqueline - great news !sounds truly wonderful .Try to contact Sri V

Ganesan - one of

Ramana's great grand nephews .He lives in a house near the Ashram and gives

Satsang every day at

11;00 am . He was resident in the Ashram as Editor of the Mountain Path , for 30

years before

retiring .Give me a ring before you go or else I will see you at our next

Satsang to fill you in

more with some others to meet .All love , in Him, Alan

 

 

 

 

-------------

Hello all!

 

I am a Canadian who lives in London UK. I read regularly the messages

on this forum and this helps me a lot in my practice. I have been

blessed to be introduced by a friend to Ramana Maharshi's teachings 6

months ago.

 

I have been involved with spiritual (New Age) groups for more than 25

years. I have at last found the teachings that speak to my soul! Now,

I have to "un-learn" all what I have been taught during these 25

years! To facilitate the transition to these new Teachings, I have

decided to go to Tiruvannamalai for the MahaSivaratri (March 1st). So

I will be in Tiruvannamalai from February 22nd to March 15th.

 

I intend to visit Ramanasharama (I have a room confirmed for 1 week),

Arunachala, the caves, the pradakshina, the holy temple.

Unfortunately, I might not be able to perform the whole pradakshina

as I have a difficulty walking (but I do not give up yet...). I

intend to visit also a few ashrams around (Yogi Ramsuratkumar ashram,

Seshadri ashram). I was sorry to hear that Lakshmana Swami does not

give public darshan during the MahaSivaratri.

I really think that Bhagavan's teachings (including Self-Inquiry) are

right for me and I know that this trip will be very important. Ramana

Maharshi & Arunachala & Lord Shiva!! WOW! I have always been a

devotee of Lord Siva (I used to sing bahjans to Arunachala without

knowing that it was HIS mountain).

I know that some of you are very knowledgeable about all what

concerns Bhagavan & Arunachala. My purpose for my trip is to do a

retreat (not a tourist trip).

My question today: As a devotee/student of Ramana Maharshi, is there

any thing (event, person, place) I should not miss while in

Tiruvannamalai and around?

Many thanks for your help

 

Namaste!

Jacqueline

 

 

 

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Many Thanks Alan! I will certainly be in touch with you before I go.

I will attend the next Satsang on Fev 8th. Thank you for sharing this

precious information with me.

Om Shanti!

Jacqueline

 

RamanaMaharshi, Alan Jacobs

<alanadamsjacobs> wrote:

> Dear Jacqueline - great news !sounds truly wonderful .Try to

contact Sri V Ganesan - one of

> Ramana's great grand nephews .He lives in a house near the Ashram

and gives Satsang every day at

> 11;00 am . He was resident in the Ashram as Editor of the Mountain

Path , for 30 years before

> retiring .Give me a ring before you go or else I will see you at

our next Satsang to fill you in

> more with some others to meet .All love , in Him, Alan

>

>

>

>

> -------------

> Hello all!

>

> I am a Canadian who lives in London UK. I read regularly the

messages

> on this forum and this helps me a lot in my practice. I have been

> blessed to be introduced by a friend to Ramana Maharshi's teachings

6

> months ago.

>

> I have been involved with spiritual (New Age) groups for more than

25

> years. I have at last found the teachings that speak to my soul!

Now,

> I have to "un-learn" all what I have been taught during these 25

> years! To facilitate the transition to these new Teachings, I have

> decided to go to Tiruvannamalai for the MahaSivaratri (March 1st).

So

> I will be in Tiruvannamalai from February 22nd to March 15th.

>

> I intend to visit Ramanasharama (I have a room confirmed for 1

week),

> Arunachala, the caves, the pradakshina, the holy temple.

> Unfortunately, I might not be able to perform the whole pradakshina

> as I have a difficulty walking (but I do not give up yet...). I

> intend to visit also a few ashrams around (Yogi Ramsuratkumar

ashram,

> Seshadri ashram). I was sorry to hear that Lakshmana Swami does not

> give public darshan during the MahaSivaratri.

> I really think that Bhagavan's teachings (including Self-Inquiry)

are

> right for me and I know that this trip will be very important.

Ramana

> Maharshi & Arunachala & Lord Shiva!! WOW! I have always been a

> devotee of Lord Siva (I used to sing bahjans to Arunachala without

> knowing that it was HIS mountain).

> I know that some of you are very knowledgeable about all what

> concerns Bhagavan & Arunachala. My purpose for my trip is to do a

> retreat (not a tourist trip).

> My question today: As a devotee/student of Ramana Maharshi, is

there

> any thing (event, person, place) I should not miss while in

> Tiruvannamalai and around?

> Many thanks for your help

>

> Namaste!

> Jacqueline

>

>

>

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Dear Murthy

 

Thank you for your kind words. I will be at Ramanashramam from

February 24 to March 3rd (hopefully, I will be able to extend my stay

at the ashram). I would be happy to meet with you and share a few

thoughts about our experience with Self-Inquiry and Ramana's

teachings. I also intend to visit Chennai on the last 2 days (March

15-16)

Let's see how things unfold......If we are meant to meet we will

In Bhagavan's grace

Jacqueline

 

RamanaMaharshi, "manof678 <manof678>"

<manof678> wrote:

> sorry the name of this b/m/i combination was left out in the prev.

> reply : Murthy

>

> also Jacqueline, please understand that you are not alone in un-

> learning; all of us, with almost no exceptions, have to un-learn

what

> we have learnt and belive since the b/m/i illusion started; in fact

> we just have to un-realize and not necessarily realize...

>

> since you have been 'treated' so far in a particular way, it is

good

> that you treat your trip as a "re-treat" and not a tourist trip...

>

> love....

>

>

> RamanaMaharshi, "jacqueline_jacques

> <jacqueline_jacques>" <jacqueline_jacques> wrote:

> > Hello all!

> >

> > I am a Canadian who lives in London UK. I read regularly the

> messages

[Guest guest]

Hello,

 

One place not to miss from my personal experience is

the original room where Maharshi used to sit. This is

a small room and very quiet (not the new meditation

hall). We walk in and sit quietly there feeling His

presence. An unforgettable experience that we carry

with us forever.

 

My brother lives in Chennai (moved to India from Omaha

after being here in U.S for 7 years) and frequents

Ramanasramam. If you need more info or just to touch

base with him, please let me know. I will follow up

with him and forward his details to you.

 

love

Yamini

 

 

 

--- "manof678 <manof678"

<manof678 wrote:

> First, to Dear Alton: every path leads to Ramana

> path (if you can

> call it a path); whatever tenet one belongs to or

> even if one does

> not belong to any tenet or path or group, they still

> belong to Self;

> in common terms, they cannot ever deny their own

> existence; they

> cannot deny that they continue to exist even when

> they are in deep

> sleep completely unaware of their own identity leave

> alone the

> external world; hence, if the chosen path is

> followed sincerely, and

> the key word is 'sincerely', Maharshi will be found

> because Maharshi

> is everywhere as the Supreme Self; love...

>

> Dear Jacqueline: Welcome to the group; this writer

> is also planning

> to be in India (specifically Chennai) during end

> Feb-beg. March; and

> planning to travel to Arunachala at least once if

> not more; have been

> there in 2001 for the first and the only time,

> though born and raised

> in India; presently reside in the USA for the past

> 11+ years. (in

> California now). Please be in touch, may be the

> paths will meet;

> meditate in the hall..., love...

>

>

> RamanaMaharshi,

> "jacqueline_jacques

> <jacqueline_jacques>" <jacqueline_jacques>

> wrote:

> > Hello all!

> >

> > I am a Canadian who lives in London UK. I read

> regularly the

> messages

> > on this forum and this helps me a lot in my

> practice. I have been

> > blessed to be introduced by a friend to Ramana

> Maharshi's teachings

> 6

> > months ago.

> >

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

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Hi Jacqueline,

 

Your post struck a chord with me, don't know why. Maybe because you have

been doing the spiritual rounds for 25 years - same as me, except I started

with Ramana Maharshi, but that hasn't made things any easier (for me at

least). I sometimes worry I might never get enlightened but then I see that

that is just a thought that arises and passes away in awareness. Anyway,

congratulations on going to Arunachala. I haven't been so I can't say

anything useful on that subject, except I have a request - when you bow

before Sri Ramana's seat could you bow once more for me.

 

Many thanks.

 

Vic

 

 

 

 

 

>months ago.

>

>I have been involved with spiritual (New Age) groups for more than 25

>years. I have at last found the teachings that speak to my soul! Now,

>I have to "un-learn" all what I have been taught during these 25

>years! To facilitate the transition to these new Teachings, I have

>decided to go to Tiruvannamalai for the MahaSivaratri (March 1st). So

>I will be in Tiruvannamalai from February 22nd to March 15th.

>

>I intend to visit Ramanasharama (I have a room confirmed for 1 week),

>Arunachala, the caves, the pradakshina, the holy temple.

>Unfortunately, I might not be able to perform the whole pradakshina

>as I have a difficulty walking (but I do not give up yet...). I

>intend to visit also a few ashrams around (Yogi Ramsuratkumar ashram,

>Seshadri ashram). I was sorry to hear that Lakshmana Swami does not

>give public darshan during the MahaSivaratri.

>I really think that Bhagavan's teachings (including Self-Inquiry) are

>right for me and I know that this trip will be very important. Ramana

>Maharshi & Arunachala & Lord Shiva!! WOW! I have always been a

>devotee of Lord Siva (I used to sing bahjans to Arunachala without

>knowing that it was HIS mountain).

>I know that some of you are very knowledgeable about all what

>concerns Bhagavan & Arunachala. My purpose for my trip is to do a

>retreat (not a tourist trip).

>My question today: As a devotee/student of Ramana Maharshi, is there

>any thing (event, person, place) I should not miss while in

>Tiruvannamalai and around?

>Many thanks for your help

>

>Namaste!

>Jacqueline

>

 

 

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hello,

I live in trivandrum, kerala. do i need to confirm in

advance to stay in the asramam for a couple of days.

joseph oommen

--- Yamini Gourishankar <yaminigs wrote:

> Hello,

>

> One place not to miss from my personal experience is

> the original room where Maharshi used to sit. This

> is

> a small room and very quiet (not the new meditation

> hall). We walk in and sit quietly there feeling His

> presence. An unforgettable experience that we carry

> with us forever.

>

> My brother lives in Chennai (moved to India from

> Omaha

> after being here in U.S for 7 years) and frequents

> Ramanasramam. If you need more info or just to touch

> base with him, please let me know. I will follow up

> with him and forward his details to you.

>

> love

> Yamini

>

>

>

> --- "manof678 <manof678"

> <manof678 wrote:

> > First, to Dear Alton: every path leads to Ramana

> > path (if you can

> > call it a path); whatever tenet one belongs to or

> > even if one does

> > not belong to any tenet or path or group, they

> still

> > belong to Self;

> > in common terms, they cannot ever deny their own

> > existence; they

> > cannot deny that they continue to exist even when

> > they are in deep

> > sleep completely unaware of their own identity

> leave

> > alone the

> > external world; hence, if the chosen path is

> > followed sincerely, and

> > the key word is 'sincerely', Maharshi will be

> found

> > because Maharshi

> > is everywhere as the Supreme Self; love...

> >

> > Dear Jacqueline: Welcome to the group; this writer

> > is also planning

> > to be in India (specifically Chennai) during end

> > Feb-beg. March; and

> > planning to travel to Arunachala at least once if

> > not more; have been

> > there in 2001 for the first and the only time,

> > though born and raised

> > in India; presently reside in the USA for the past

> > 11+ years. (in

> > California now). Please be in touch, may be the

> > paths will meet;

> > meditate in the hall..., love...

> >

> >

> > RamanaMaharshi,

> > "jacqueline_jacques

> > <jacqueline_jacques>"

> <jacqueline_jacques>

> > wrote:

> > > Hello all!

> > >

> > > I am a Canadian who lives in London UK. I read

> > regularly the

> > messages

> > > on this forum and this helps me a lot in my

> > practice. I have been

> > > blessed to be introduced by a friend to Ramana

> > Maharshi's teachings

> > 6

> > > months ago.

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

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Hi Yamini!

 

Thanks very much for your answer. I will certainly not miss to

meditate in the little room. I would appreciate very much contacting

your brother in Chennai. It is so nice to think that I am part of

this great international community of Ramana's students/disciples

Please forward my details to him.

I am looking forward to hearing from you or your brother.

Jacqueline

 

RamanaMaharshi, Yamini Gourishankar

<yaminigs> wrote:

> Hello,

>

> One place not to miss from my personal experience is

> the original room where Maharshi used to sit. This is

> a small room and very quiet (not the new meditation

> hall). We walk in and sit quietly there feeling His

> presence. An unforgettable experience that we carry

> with us forever.

>

> My brother lives in Chennai (moved to India from Omaha

> after being here in U.S for 7 years) and frequents

> Ramanasramam. If you need more info or just to touch

> base with him, please let me know. I will follow up

> with him and forward his details to you.

>

> love

> Yamini

>

>

>

> --- "manof678 <manof678>"

> <manof678> wrote:

> > First, to Dear Alton: every path leads to Ramana

> > path (if you can

> > call it a path); whatever tenet one belongs to or

> > even if one does

> > not belong to any tenet or path or group, they still

> > belong to Self;

> > in common terms, they cannot ever deny their own

> > existence; they

> > cannot deny that they continue to exist even when

> > they are in deep

> > sleep completely unaware of their own identity leave

> > alone the

> > external world; hence, if the chosen path is

> > followed sincerely, and

> > the key word is 'sincerely', Maharshi will be found

> > because Maharshi

> > is everywhere as the Supreme Self; love...

> >

> > Dear Jacqueline: Welcome to the group; this writer

> > is also planning

> > to be in India (specifically Chennai) during end

> > Feb-beg. March; and

> > planning to travel to Arunachala at least once if

> > not more; have been

> > there in 2001 for the first and the only time,

> > though born and raised

> > in India; presently reside in the USA for the past

> > 11+ years. (in

> > California now). Please be in touch, may be the

> > paths will meet;

> > meditate in the hall..., love...

> >

> >

> > RamanaMaharshi,

> > "jacqueline_jacques

> > <jacqueline_jacques>" <jacqueline_jacques>

> > wrote:

> > > Hello all!

> > >

> > > I am a Canadian who lives in London UK. I read

> > regularly the

> > messages

> > > on this forum and this helps me a lot in my

> > practice. I have been

> > > blessed to be introduced by a friend to Ramana

> > Maharshi's teachings

> > 6

> > > months ago.

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

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Dear Vic

 

I will certainly do it for you with profound respect and

reverence....and I will confirm to you that I did it upon my return!

I guess our connection is through Shiva (your name: shivaguy108). For

me Lord Shiva is ALL! Just surrender to Him or just talk to Him (if

surrender is difficult).

I realise that I am fortunate to go to Arunachala when I am so new in

the Teachings. Last year I went to India to do a pilgrimage to Lord

Shiva. I went to Gangotri (source of Mother Ganga). I was to continue

to Bradrinath and Kedernath but the roads were not in good conditions

(too much rain). Upon my return, I made up my mind that one day I

would go back to India to complete my pilgrimage to Lord Shiva.

Meanwhile I was introduced to Bhagavan's teachings and Lord Shiva

redirected me to Arunachala to complete my pilgrimage....amazing!

Om Namah Shivaya!

Jacqueline

 

 

 

RamanaMaharshi, "vic w" <shivaguy108@h...>

wrote:

>

> Hi Jacqueline,

>

> Your post struck a chord with me, don't know why. Maybe because you

have

> been doing the spiritual rounds for 25 years - same as me, except I

started

> with Ramana Maharshi, but that hasn't made things any easier (for

me at

> least). I sometimes worry I might never get enlightened but then I

see that

> that is just a thought that arises and passes away in awareness.

Anyway,

> congratulations on going to Arunachala. I haven't been so I can't

say

> anything useful on that subject, except I have a request - when you

bow

> before Sri Ramana's seat could you bow once more for me.

>

> Many thanks.

>

> Vic

>

>

>

>

>

> >months ago.

> >

> >I have been involved with spiritual (New Age) groups for more than

25

> >years. I have at last found the teachings that speak to my soul!

Now,

> >I have to "un-learn" all what I have been taught during these 25

> >years! To facilitate the transition to these new Teachings, I have

> >decided to go to Tiruvannamalai for the MahaSivaratri (March 1st).

So

> >I will be in Tiruvannamalai from February 22nd to March 15th.

> >

> >I intend to visit Ramanasharama (I have a room confirmed for 1

week),

> >Arunachala, the caves, the pradakshina, the holy temple.

> >Unfortunately, I might not be able to perform the whole pradakshina

> >as I have a difficulty walking (but I do not give up yet...). I

> >intend to visit also a few ashrams around (Yogi Ramsuratkumar

ashram,

> >Seshadri ashram). I was sorry to hear that Lakshmana Swami does not

> >give public darshan during the MahaSivaratri.

> >I really think that Bhagavan's teachings (including Self-Inquiry)

are

> >right for me and I know that this trip will be very important.

Ramana

> >Maharshi & Arunachala & Lord Shiva!! WOW! I have always been a

> >devotee of Lord Siva (I used to sing bahjans to Arunachala without

> >knowing that it was HIS mountain).

> >I know that some of you are very knowledgeable about all what

> >concerns Bhagavan & Arunachala. My purpose for my trip is to do a

> >retreat (not a tourist trip).

> >My question today: As a devotee/student of Ramana Maharshi, is

there

> >any thing (event, person, place) I should not miss while in

> >Tiruvannamalai and around?

> >Many thanks for your help

> >

> >Namaste!

> >Jacqueline

> >

>

>

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Dear Joseph , yes , they prefer you to book - and if it is busy it will save you

from

disappointment .Their phone is 237292 0r 237200 fax 0091-4175-237491 e mail

ashram .I believe it is Dr.Murti who looks after guest

bookings .Regards Alan

 

 

 

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Dear Jacqueline,

 

Thank you very much for your reply and your advice. Of all the Hindu

deities I have always felt most attracted to Lord Shiva, but I must admit

surrender is not something I have contemplated before, maybe I am a control

freak and just never realized it ! What made you decide to go to

Ramanashramam ?

 

Vic

 

 

 

 

 

>"jacqueline_jacques <jacqueline_jacques"

><jacqueline_jacques

>RamanaMaharshi

>RamanaMaharshi

>[RamanaMaharshi] Re: Visit to Tiruvannamalai & Ramanashramam

>Fri, 31 Jan 2003 10:21:41 -0000

>

>Dear Vic

>

>I will certainly do it for you with profound respect and

>reverence....and I will confirm to you that I did it upon my return!

>I guess our connection is through Shiva (your name: shivaguy108). For

>me Lord Shiva is ALL! Just surrender to Him or just talk to Him (if

>surrender is difficult).

>I realise that I am fortunate to go to Arunachala when I am so new in

>the Teachings. Last year I went to India to do a pilgrimage to Lord

>Shiva. I went to Gangotri (source of Mother Ganga). I was to continue

>to Bradrinath and Kedernath but the roads were not in good conditions

>(too much rain). Upon my return, I made up my mind that one day I

>would go back to India to complete my pilgrimage to Lord Shiva.

>Meanwhile I was introduced to Bhagavan's teachings and Lord Shiva

>redirected me to Arunachala to complete my pilgrimage....amazing!

>Om Namah Shivaya!

>Jacqueline

>

>

>

>RamanaMaharshi, "vic w" <shivaguy108@h...>

>wrote:

> >

> > Hi Jacqueline,

> >

> > Your post struck a chord with me, don't know why. Maybe because you

>have

> > been doing the spiritual rounds for 25 years - same as me, except I

>started

> > with Ramana Maharshi, but that hasn't made things any easier (for

>me at

> > least). I sometimes worry I might never get enlightened but then I

>see that

> > that is just a thought that arises and passes away in awareness.

>Anyway,

> > congratulations on going to Arunachala. I haven't been so I can't

>say

> > anything useful on that subject, except I have a request - when you

>bow

> > before Sri Ramana's seat could you bow once more for me.

> >

> > Many thanks.

> >

> > Vic

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > >months ago.

> > >

> > >I have been involved with spiritual (New Age) groups for more than

>25

> > >years. I have at last found the teachings that speak to my soul!

>Now,

> > >I have to "un-learn" all what I have been taught during these 25

> > >years! To facilitate the transition to these new Teachings, I have

> > >decided to go to Tiruvannamalai for the MahaSivaratri (March 1st).

>So

> > >I will be in Tiruvannamalai from February 22nd to March 15th.

> > >

> > >I intend to visit Ramanasharama (I have a room confirmed for 1

>week),

> > >Arunachala, the caves, the pradakshina, the holy temple.

> > >Unfortunately, I might not be able to perform the whole pradakshina

> > >as I have a difficulty walking (but I do not give up yet...). I

> > >intend to visit also a few ashrams around (Yogi Ramsuratkumar

>ashram,

> > >Seshadri ashram). I was sorry to hear that Lakshmana Swami does not

> > >give public darshan during the MahaSivaratri.

> > >I really think that Bhagavan's teachings (including Self-Inquiry)

>are

> > >right for me and I know that this trip will be very important.

>Ramana

> > >Maharshi & Arunachala & Lord Shiva!! WOW! I have always been a

> > >devotee of Lord Siva (I used to sing bahjans to Arunachala without

> > >knowing that it was HIS mountain).

> > >I know that some of you are very knowledgeable about all what

> > >concerns Bhagavan & Arunachala. My purpose for my trip is to do a

> > >retreat (not a tourist trip).

> > >My question today: As a devotee/student of Ramana Maharshi, is

>there

> > >any thing (event, person, place) I should not miss while in

> > >Tiruvannamalai and around?

> > >Many thanks for your help

> > >

> > >Namaste!

> > >Jacqueline

> > >

> >

> >

> > _______________

> > Stay in touch with MSN Messenger http://messenger.msn.co.uk

>

 

 

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Dear Vic

 

I was planning to go to India sometimes later in the year 2003. The

desire became very intense after I found Ramana's Teachings last

August. What a relief for me to know that there was a place on earth

where life is lived at some higher level.... I searched so hard for

these Teachings I could not wait anymore here in London doing my

little thing. I am not a very patient person (!!).

Furthermore, according to my vedic astrology, on April 2003, I will

enter a very positive cycle (Saturn cycle) that will last 19 years

(after a very turbulent Jupiter cycle of 16 years!). I have decided

that I should prepare to welcome this new cycle. So since December, I

am undergoing an intense "body detox" (change of diet, cleansing,

exercice, etc.). I had to do also a "mind detox". I am practising

Self-Inquiry and reading a lot of Bhagavan's Teachings but I needed

more. A spiritual retreat with Lord Shiva and Baghavan to

Ramanashramam and Arunachala seems the best way to initiate

this "mind detox" process. I have heard/read so many nice things

about Ramanashramam & Arunachala. This is the only place where I want

to be . I am aware that there is no magic....As the sages say:

Happiness is within.....But for me, to be close to Arunachala and to

be able to stand where the Greatest Sage (Bhagavan) stood and lived

is a great blessing! I do not want to miss this opportunity. This

trip is the first in Tiruvannamalai and hopefully not the last!

 

Om Namah Shivaya!

 

Jacqueline

RamanaMaharshi, "vic w" <shivaguy108@h...>

wrote:

>

> Dear Jacqueline,

>

> Thank you very much for your reply and your advice. Of all the

Hindu

> deities I have always felt most attracted to Lord Shiva, but I must

admit

> surrender is not something I have contemplated before, maybe I am a

control

> freak and just never realized it ! What made you decide to go to

> Ramanashramam ?

>

> Vic

>

>

>

>

>

> >"jacqueline_jacques <jacqueline_jacques>"

> ><jacqueline_jacques>

> >RamanaMaharshi

> >RamanaMaharshi

> >[RamanaMaharshi] Re: Visit to Tiruvannamalai &

Ramanashramam

> >Fri, 31 Jan 2003 10:21:41 -0000

> >

> >Dear Vic

> >

> >I will certainly do it for you with profound respect and

> >reverence....and I will confirm to you that I did it upon my

return!

> >I guess our connection is through Shiva (your name: shivaguy108).

For

> >me Lord Shiva is ALL! Just surrender to Him or just talk to Him (if

> >surrender is difficult).

> >I realise that I am fortunate to go to Arunachala when I am so new

in

> >the Teachings. Last year I went to India to do a pilgrimage to Lord

> >Shiva. I went to Gangotri (source of Mother Ganga). I was to

continue

> >to Bradrinath and Kedernath but the roads were not in good

conditions

> >(too much rain). Upon my return, I made up my mind that one day I

> >would go back to India to complete my pilgrimage to Lord Shiva.

> >Meanwhile I was introduced to Bhagavan's teachings and Lord Shiva

> >redirected me to Arunachala to complete my pilgrimage....amazing!

> >Om Namah Shivaya!

> >Jacqueline

> >

> >

> >

> >RamanaMaharshi, "vic w" <shivaguy108@h...>

> >wrote:

> > >

> > > Hi Jacqueline,

> > >

> > > Your post struck a chord with me, don't know why. Maybe because

you

> >have

> > > been doing the spiritual rounds for 25 years - same as me,

except I

> >started

> > > with Ramana Maharshi, but that hasn't made things any easier

(for

> >me at

> > > least). I sometimes worry I might never get enlightened but

then I

> >see that

> > > that is just a thought that arises and passes away in awareness.

> >Anyway,

> > > congratulations on going to Arunachala. I haven't been so I

can't

> >say

> > > anything useful on that subject, except I have a request - when

you

> >bow

> > > before Sri Ramana's seat could you bow once more for me.

> > >

> > > Many thanks.

> > >

> > > Vic

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > >months ago.

> > > >

> > > >I have been involved with spiritual (New Age) groups for more

than

> >25

> > > >years. I have at last found the teachings that speak to my

soul!

> >Now,

> > > >I have to "un-learn" all what I have been taught during these

25

> > > >years! To facilitate the transition to these new Teachings, I

have

> > > >decided to go to Tiruvannamalai for the MahaSivaratri (March

1st).

> >So

> > > >I will be in Tiruvannamalai from February 22nd to March 15th.

> > > >

> > > >I intend to visit Ramanasharama (I have a room confirmed for 1

> >week),

> > > >Arunachala, the caves, the pradakshina, the holy temple.

> > > >Unfortunately, I might not be able to perform the whole

pradakshina

> > > >as I have a difficulty walking (but I do not give up yet...). I

> > > >intend to visit also a few ashrams around (Yogi Ramsuratkumar

> >ashram,

> > > >Seshadri ashram). I was sorry to hear that Lakshmana Swami

does not

> > > >give public darshan during the MahaSivaratri.

> > > >I really think that Bhagavan's teachings (including Self-

Inquiry)

> >are

> > > >right for me and I know that this trip will be very important.

> >Ramana

> > > >Maharshi & Arunachala & Lord Shiva!! WOW! I have always been a

> > > >devotee of Lord Siva (I used to sing bahjans to Arunachala

without

> > > >knowing that it was HIS mountain).

> > > >I know that some of you are very knowledgeable about all what

> > > >concerns Bhagavan & Arunachala. My purpose for my trip is to

do a

> > > >retreat (not a tourist trip).

> > > >My question today: As a devotee/student of Ramana Maharshi, is

> >there

> > > >any thing (event, person, place) I should not miss while in

> > > >Tiruvannamalai and around?

> > > >Many thanks for your help

> > > >

> > > >Namaste!

> > > >Jacqueline

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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> >

>

>

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Hi Jacqueline and Joseph,

 

I am copying my brother Vidyashankar here. I will

update him when I talk to him next time. But feel

free to connect with him and find out more about

Ramanasramam.

 

love

Yamini

 

Hi Vidya,

 

This is the Ramana that I to. (I

mentioned to you in one of my earlier mails).

JAcqueline is from Canada and hasbeen a devotee of

Shiva for 25 years and recently been introduced to

Ramana's teachings. She is planning to make a trip to

Thiruvannamalai in the end of Feb/early March. I have

introduced you to her :-) through this mail for her to

get more info or anything else she needs over there.

 

Joseph mentioned he lives in kerala and would like to

know if you need advanced notification to stay in the

ashram.

 

Please provide as much info as you can and it will be

great if you joined this group too :-).

 

love

Yamini

--- "jacqueline_jacques

<jacqueline_jacques"

<jacqueline_jacques wrote:

> Hi Yamini!

>

> Thanks very much for your answer. I will certainly

> not miss to

> meditate in the little room. I would appreciate very

> much contacting

> your brother in Chennai. It is so nice to think that

> I am part of

> this great international community of Ramana's

> students/disciples

> Please forward my details to him.

> I am looking forward to hearing from you or your

> brother.

> Jacqueline

>

> RamanaMaharshi, Yamini

> Gourishankar

> <yaminigs> wrote:

> > Hello,

> >

> > One place not to miss from my personal experience

> is

> > the original room where Maharshi used to sit.

> This is

> > a small room and very quiet (not the new

> meditation

> > hall). We walk in and sit quietly there feeling

> His

> > presence. An unforgettable experience that we

> carry

> > with us forever.

> >

> > My brother lives in Chennai (moved to India from

> Omaha

> > after being here in U.S for 7 years) and frequents

> > Ramanasramam. If you need more info or just to

> touch

> > base with him, please let me know. I will follow

> up

> > with him and forward his details to you.

> >

> > love

> > Yamini

> >

> >

> >

> > --- "manof678 <manof678>"

> > <manof678> wrote:

> > > First, to Dear Alton: every path leads to Ramana

> > > path (if you can

> > > call it a path); whatever tenet one belongs to

> or

> > > even if one does

> > > not belong to any tenet or path or group, they

> still

> > > belong to Self;

> > > in common terms, they cannot ever deny their own

> > > existence; they

> > > cannot deny that they continue to exist even

> when

> > > they are in deep

> > > sleep completely unaware of their own identity

> leave

> > > alone the

> > > external world; hence, if the chosen path is

> > > followed sincerely, and

> > > the key word is 'sincerely', Maharshi will be

> found

> > > because Maharshi

> > > is everywhere as the Supreme Self; love...

> > >

> > > Dear Jacqueline: Welcome to the group; this

> writer

> > > is also planning

> > > to be in India (specifically Chennai) during end

> > > Feb-beg. March; and

> > > planning to travel to Arunachala at least once

> if

> > > not more; have been

> > > there in 2001 for the first and the only time,

> > > though born and raised

> > > in India; presently reside in the USA for the

> past

> > > 11+ years. (in

> > > California now). Please be in touch, may be the

> > > paths will meet;

> > > meditate in the hall..., love...

> > >

> > >

> > > RamanaMaharshi,

> > > "jacqueline_jacques

> > > <jacqueline_jacques>"

> <jacqueline_jacques>

> > > wrote:

> > > > Hello all!

> > > >

> > > > I am a Canadian who lives in London UK. I read

> > > regularly the

> > > messages

> > > > on this forum and this helps me a lot in my

> > > practice. I have been

> > > > blessed to be introduced by a friend to Ramana

> > > Maharshi's teachings

> > > 6

> > > > months ago.

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Dear Joseph/Yamini/Jacqueline/Vic and others:

 

really appreciate all your observations, experiences and postings

updated here;

 

this b/m/i combination (with the name Murthy and email id

manof678) also plans to visit Chennai between Saturday, Feb

22 and Friday March 07; with Maharshi's grace, plans to go to Ashrama

at least one weekend in between, possibly both weekends...

 

Vic, the pursuit itself is so heart-warming, induces the sathvic

qualities so much that the pleasantness felt by you and emanating

from you (and felt by others) is a good enough reward both in

material and spiritual plane.... (though one shouldn't become proud

or even complacent with such rewards, the goal of enlightenment need

not be brooded over, it will happen when it is time);

 

how much of tilling (vichara) is needed before the seed can be

planted depends on how hard or easy the land's vaasanaa's (or

tendencies or karma) is.....

 

if the conviction is there (thru intelligence and vichara) that

God/Guru/Grace are all one and the same and is present everywhere and

in everyone as the substratum, every single event/person/act in this

world (both natural acts without man's involvement and natural acts

with man's involvement) can be taken as a guide and the pursuit

continued;

 

for ex. think about sunshine and sun; we cannot see sun directly; Sun

communicates to us thru sunrays; the rays are like jivaathmaa and Sun

the paramaathmaa; sun rays dont exist by themselves; simple things

like this should lead us into vichara...

 

in this b/m/i's understanding it is a full-cycle learning; first you

negate saying 'I am not this universe' ; 'I am not this body'; 'I am

not this mind' etc. but when you actually reach the pinnacle of

finding yourself to be the universal self, you understand and 'know'

that you are indeed everything (all the things you said you are not);

 

so, when the individual spirit leaves the body to don another garb in

its next incarnation, we cannot say the 'self' is not present in the

dead body left behind, because 'self' is everywhere; in lalitha

sahasranama, there is a verse which goes: 'chit sakthi chethanaa

roopa, jadsakthir jadaathmika' which roughly means 'You are the

sentience in sentient objects and You are the insentience in

insentient objects';

 

deep and strong conviction and SINCERE pursuit is what is

required...; In this case, the pursuit is not an exercise or a

technique that is foreign to the individual; it cannot be even

compared to 'swimming' because someone has to teach swimming to a

human being; this b/m/i feels that the sadhana (or pursuit) suggested

by Maharshi is so fundamental like breathing that it needs no

external help; in fact, a sadhak will feel external help not only not

helpful but also a hindrance....;

 

if a sensual feeling like taste cannot be communicated by words but

become fully and perfectly clear only when actually tasted, how can

anyone describe how it feels to 'Be the Self' and 'what is the path

and experiences to go there and 'Be the Self' when 'Self' is beyond

the sense plane and which actually activates individual spirit's

illusory senses...?

 

that is the reason vedas proclaims themselves as something to be

discarded eventually.... (not in the beginning..., lol)

 

in short, there is no need to brood over the lack of a "physical"

Guru; Maharshi's words act like Guru themselves and when the time is

ripe, Maharshi will appear and you will "know" that he has appeared

for you...

 

all the above are purely this b/m/i's assimilation and may or may not

be acceptable to others' view points; so review/comments/criticisms

welcome; the idea is to openly share and not pose as an expert which

this b/m/i knows for sure it is not... :-)

 

love....

 

RamanaMaharshi, Yamini Gourishankar

<yaminigs> wrote:

> Hi Jacqueline and Joseph,

>

> I am copying my brother Vidyashankar here. I will

> update him when I talk to him next time. But feel

> free to connect with him and find out more about

> Ramanasramam.

[Guest guest]

Dear Murthy , thanks for such a clear elucidation of Ramana's Teaching

..Love,In His Grace Alan

 

 

 

Dear Joseph/Yamini/Jacqueline/Vic and others:

 

really appreciate all your observations, experiences and postings

updated here;

 

this b/m/i combination (with the name Murthy and email id

manof678) also plans to visit Chennai between Saturday, Feb

22 and Friday March 07; with Maharshi's grace, plans to go to Ashrama

at least one weekend in between, possibly both weekends...

 

Vic, the pursuit itself is so heart-warming, induces the sathvic

qualities so much that the pleasantness felt by you and emanating

from you (and felt by others) is a good enough reward both in

material and spiritual plane.... (though one shouldn't become proud

or even complacent with such rewards, the goal of enlightenment need

not be brooded over, it will happen when it is time);

 

how much of tilling (vichara) is needed before the seed can be

planted depends on how hard or easy the land's vaasanaa's (or

tendencies or karma) is.....

 

if the conviction is there (thru intelligence and vichara) that

God/Guru/Grace are all one and the same and is present everywhere and

in everyone as the substratum, every single event/person/act in this

world (both natural acts without man's involvement and natural acts

with man's involvement) can be taken as a guide and the pursuit

continued;

 

for ex. think about sunshine and sun; we cannot see sun directly; Sun

communicates to us thru sunrays; the rays are like jivaathmaa and Sun

the paramaathmaa; sun rays dont exist by themselves; simple things

like this should lead us into vichara...

 

in this b/m/i's understanding it is a full-cycle learning; first you

negate saying 'I am not this universe' ; 'I am not this body'; 'I am

not this mind' etc. but when you actually reach the pinnacle of

finding yourself to be the universal self, you understand and 'know'

that you are indeed everything (all the things you said you are not);

 

so, when the individual spirit leaves the body to don another garb in

its next incarnation, we cannot say the 'self' is not present in the

dead body left behind, because 'self' is everywhere; in lalitha

sahasranama, there is a verse which goes: 'chit sakthi chethanaa

roopa, jadsakthir jadaathmika' which roughly means 'You are the

sentience in sentient objects and You are the insentience in

insentient objects';

 

deep and strong conviction and SINCERE pursuit is what is

required...; In this case, the pursuit is not an exercise or a

technique that is foreign to the individual; it cannot be even

compared to 'swimming' because someone has to teach swimming to a

human being; this b/m/i feels that the sadhana (or pursuit) suggested

by Maharshi is so fundamental like breathing that it needs no

external help; in fact, a sadhak will feel external help not only not

helpful but also a hindrance....;

 

if a sensual feeling like taste cannot be communicated by words but

become fully and perfectly clear only when actually tasted, how can

anyone describe how it feels to 'Be the Self' and 'what is the path

and experiences to go there and 'Be the Self' when 'Self' is beyond

the sense plane and which actually activates individual spirit's

illusory senses...?

 

that is the reason vedas proclaims themselves as something to be

discarded eventually.... (not in the beginning..., lol)

 

in short, there is no need to brood over the lack of a "physical"

Guru; Maharshi's words act like Guru themselves and when the time is

ripe, Maharshi will appear and you will "know" that he has appeared

for you...

 

all the above are purely this b/m/i's assimilation and may or may not

be acceptable to others' view points; so review/comments/criticisms

welcome; the idea is to openly share and not pose as an expert which

this b/m/i knows for sure it is not... :-)

 

love....

 

RamanaMaharshi, Yamini Gourishankar

<yaminigs> wrote:

> Hi Jacqueline and Joseph,

>

> I am copying my brother Vidyashankar here. I will

> update him when I talk to him next time. But feel

> free to connect with him and find out more about

> Ramanasramam.

 

 

 

 

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hello alan et al,

am desireous of visiting the asramam

contemporaneously. please advise.

joseph oommen

--- Alan Jacobs <alanadamsjacobs wrote:

> Dear Murthy , thanks for such a clear elucidation

> of Ramana's Teaching .Love,In His Grace Alan

>

>

>

> Dear Joseph/Yamini/Jacqueline/Vic and others:

>

> really appreciate all your observations, experiences

> and postings

> updated here;

>

> this b/m/i combination (with the name Murthy and

> email id

> manof678) also plans to visit Chennai

> between Saturday, Feb

> 22 and Friday March 07; with Maharshi's grace, plans

> to go to Ashrama

> at least one weekend in between, possibly both

> weekends...

>

> Vic, the pursuit itself is so heart-warming, induces

> the sathvic

> qualities so much that the pleasantness felt by you

> and emanating

> from you (and felt by others) is a good enough

> reward both in

> material and spiritual plane.... (though one

> shouldn't become proud

> or even complacent with such rewards, the goal of

> enlightenment need

> not be brooded over, it will happen when it is

> time);

>

> how much of tilling (vichara) is needed before the

> seed can be

> planted depends on how hard or easy the land's

> vaasanaa's (or

> tendencies or karma) is.....

>

> if the conviction is there (thru intelligence and

> vichara) that

> God/Guru/Grace are all one and the same and is

> present everywhere and

> in everyone as the substratum, every single

> event/person/act in this

> world (both natural acts without man's involvement

> and natural acts

> with man's involvement) can be taken as a guide and

> the pursuit

> continued;

>

> for ex. think about sunshine and sun; we cannot see

> sun directly; Sun

> communicates to us thru sunrays; the rays are like

> jivaathmaa and Sun

> the paramaathmaa; sun rays dont exist by themselves;

> simple things

> like this should lead us into vichara...

>

> in this b/m/i's understanding it is a full-cycle

> learning; first you

> negate saying 'I am not this universe' ; 'I am not

> this body'; 'I am

> not this mind' etc. but when you actually reach the

> pinnacle of

> finding yourself to be the universal self, you

> understand and 'know'

> that you are indeed everything (all the things you

> said you are not);

>

> so, when the individual spirit leaves the body to

> don another garb in

> its next incarnation, we cannot say the 'self' is

> not present in the

> dead body left behind, because 'self' is everywhere;

> in lalitha

> sahasranama, there is a verse which goes: 'chit

> sakthi chethanaa

> roopa, jadsakthir jadaathmika' which roughly means

> 'You are the

> sentience in sentient objects and You are the

> insentience in

> insentient objects';

>

> deep and strong conviction and SINCERE pursuit is

> what is

> required...; In this case, the pursuit is not an

> exercise or a

> technique that is foreign to the individual; it

> cannot be even

> compared to 'swimming' because someone has to teach

> swimming to a

> human being; this b/m/i feels that the sadhana (or

> pursuit) suggested

> by Maharshi is so fundamental like breathing that it

> needs no

> external help; in fact, a sadhak will feel external

> help not only not

> helpful but also a hindrance....;

>

> if a sensual feeling like taste cannot be

> communicated by words but

> become fully and perfectly clear only when actually

> tasted, how can

> anyone describe how it feels to 'Be the Self' and

> 'what is the path

> and experiences to go there and 'Be the Self' when

> 'Self' is beyond

> the sense plane and which actually activates

> individual spirit's

> illusory senses...?

>

> that is the reason vedas proclaims themselves as

> something to be

> discarded eventually.... (not in the beginning...,

> lol)

>

> in short, there is no need to brood over the lack of

> a "physical"

> Guru; Maharshi's words act like Guru themselves and

> when the time is

> ripe, Maharshi will appear and you will "know" that

> he has appeared

> for you...

>

> all the above are purely this b/m/i's assimilation

> and may or may not

> be acceptable to others' view points; so

> review/comments/criticisms

> welcome; the idea is to openly share and not pose as

> an expert which

> this b/m/i knows for sure it is not... :-)

>

> love....

>

> RamanaMaharshi, Yamini

> Gourishankar

> <yaminigs> wrote:

> > Hi Jacqueline and Joseph,

> >

> > I am copying my brother Vidyashankar here. I will

> > update him when I talk to him next time. But feel

> > free to connect with him and find out more about

> > Ramanasramam.

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Book by sending E Mail to ashram@ramana-maharshi,org giving dates you wish to

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hello alan et al,

am desireous of visiting the asramam

contemporaneously. please advise.

joseph oommen

--- Alan Jacobs <alanadamsjacobs wrote:

> Dear Murthy , thanks for such a clear elucidation

> of Ramana's Teaching .Love,In His Grace Alan

>

>

>

> Dear Joseph/Yamini/Jacqueline/Vic and others:

>

> really appreciate all your observations, experiences

> and postings

> updated here;

>

> this b/m/i combination (with the name Murthy and

> email id

> manof678) also plans to visit Chennai

> between Saturday, Feb

> 22 and Friday March 07; with Maharshi's grace, plans

> to go to Ashrama

> at least one weekend in between, possibly both

> weekends...

>

> Vic, the pursuit itself is so heart-warming, induces

> the sathvic

> qualities so much that the pleasantness felt by you

> and emanating

> from you (and felt by others) is a good enough

> reward both in

> material and spiritual plane.... (though one

> shouldn't become proud

> or even complacent with such rewards, the goal of

> enlightenment need

> not be brooded over, it will happen when it is

> time);

>

> how much of tilling (vichara) is needed before the

> seed can be

> planted depends on how hard or easy the land's

> vaasanaa's (or

> tendencies or karma) is.....

>

> if the conviction is there (thru intelligence and

> vichara) that

> God/Guru/Grace are all one and the same and is

> present everywhere and

> in everyone as the substratum, every single

> event/person/act in this

> world (both natural acts without man's involvement

> and natural acts

> with man's involvement) can be taken as a guide and

> the pursuit

> continued;

>

> for ex. think about sunshine and sun; we cannot see

> sun directly; Sun

> communicates to us thru sunrays; the rays are like

> jivaathmaa and Sun

> the paramaathmaa; sun rays dont exist by themselves;

> simple things

> like this should lead us into vichara...

>

> in this b/m/i's understanding it is a full-cycle

> learning; first you

> negate saying 'I am not this universe' ; 'I am not

> this body'; 'I am

> not this mind' etc. but when you actually reach the

> pinnacle of

> finding yourself to be the universal self, you

> understand and 'know'

> that you are indeed everything (all the things you

> said you are not);

>

> so, when the individual spirit leaves the body to

> don another garb in

> its next incarnation, we cannot say the 'self' is

> not present in the

> dead body left behind, because 'self' is everywhere;

> in lalitha

> sahasranama, there is a verse which goes: 'chit

> sakthi chethanaa

> roopa, jadsakthir jadaathmika' which roughly means

> 'You are the

> sentience in sentient objects and You are the

> insentience in

> insentient objects';

>

> deep and strong conviction and SINCERE pursuit is

> what is

> required...; In this case, the pursuit is not an

> exercise or a

> technique that is foreign to the individual; it

> cannot be even

> compared to 'swimming' because someone has to teach

> swimming to a

> human being; this b/m/i feels that the sadhana (or

> pursuit) suggested

> by Maharshi is so fundamental like breathing that it

> needs no

> external help; in fact, a sadhak will feel external

> help not only not

> helpful but also a hindrance....;

>

> if a sensual feeling like taste cannot be

> communicated by words but

> become fully and perfectly clear only when actually

> tasted, how can

> anyone describe how it feels to 'Be the Self' and

> 'what is the path

> and experiences to go there and 'Be the Self' when

> 'Self' is beyond

> the sense plane and which actually activates

> individual spirit's

> illusory senses...?

>

> that is the reason vedas proclaims themselves as

> something to be

> discarded eventually.... (not in the beginning...,

> lol)

>

> in short, there is no need to brood over the lack of

> a "physical"

> Guru; Maharshi's words act like Guru themselves and

> when the time is

> ripe, Maharshi will appear and you will "know" that

> he has appeared

> for you...

>

> all the above are purely this b/m/i's assimilation

> and may or may not

> be acceptable to others' view points; so

> review/comments/criticisms

> welcome; the idea is to openly share and not pose as

> an expert which

> this b/m/i knows for sure it is not... :-)

>

> love....

>

> RamanaMaharshi, Yamini

> Gourishankar

> <yaminigs> wrote:

> > Hi Jacqueline and Joseph,

> >

> > I am copying my brother Vidyashankar here. I will

> > update him when I talk to him next time. But feel

> > free to connect with him and find out more about

> > Ramanasramam.

>

>

>

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dear alan,

i didnot get your previous e mail. thank you

joseph

--- Alan Jacobs <alanadamsjacobs wrote:

> dear joseph ,I did send an E mail giving advice

> before , did you not receive it ?

> Book by sending E Mail to

> ashram@ramana-maharshi,org giving dates you wish to

> stay

> and saying you are a devotee of Ramana .Let me know

> any other info. you require .Regards Alan

>

>

>

>

> hello alan et al,

> am desireous of visiting the asramam

> contemporaneously. please advise.

> joseph oommen

> --- Alan Jacobs <alanadamsjacobs wrote:

> > Dear Murthy , thanks for such a clear elucidation

> > of Ramana's Teaching .Love,In His Grace Alan

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Joseph/Yamini/Jacqueline/Vic and others:

> >

> > really appreciate all your observations,

> experiences

> > and postings

> > updated here;

> >

> > this b/m/i combination (with the name Murthy and

> > email id

> > manof678) also plans to visit Chennai

> > between Saturday, Feb

> > 22 and Friday March 07; with Maharshi's grace,

> plans

> > to go to Ashrama

> > at least one weekend in between, possibly both

> > weekends...

> >

> > Vic, the pursuit itself is so heart-warming,

> induces

> > the sathvic

> > qualities so much that the pleasantness felt by

> you

> > and emanating

> > from you (and felt by others) is a good enough

> > reward both in

> > material and spiritual plane.... (though one

> > shouldn't become proud

> > or even complacent with such rewards, the goal of

> > enlightenment need

> > not be brooded over, it will happen when it is

> > time);

> >

> > how much of tilling (vichara) is needed before the

> > seed can be

> > planted depends on how hard or easy the land's

> > vaasanaa's (or

> > tendencies or karma) is.....

> >

> > if the conviction is there (thru intelligence and

> > vichara) that

> > God/Guru/Grace are all one and the same and is

> > present everywhere and

> > in everyone as the substratum, every single

> > event/person/act in this

> > world (both natural acts without man's involvement

> > and natural acts

> > with man's involvement) can be taken as a guide

> and

> > the pursuit

> > continued;

> >

> > for ex. think about sunshine and sun; we cannot

> see

> > sun directly; Sun

> > communicates to us thru sunrays; the rays are like

> > jivaathmaa and Sun

> > the paramaathmaa; sun rays dont exist by

> themselves;

> > simple things

> > like this should lead us into vichara...

> >

> > in this b/m/i's understanding it is a full-cycle

> > learning; first you

> > negate saying 'I am not this universe' ; 'I am not

> > this body'; 'I am

> > not this mind' etc. but when you actually reach

> the

> > pinnacle of

> > finding yourself to be the universal self, you

> > understand and 'know'

> > that you are indeed everything (all the things you

> > said you are not);

> >

> > so, when the individual spirit leaves the body to

> > don another garb in

> > its next incarnation, we cannot say the 'self' is

> > not present in the

> > dead body left behind, because 'self' is

> everywhere;

> > in lalitha

> > sahasranama, there is a verse which goes: 'chit

> > sakthi chethanaa

> > roopa, jadsakthir jadaathmika' which roughly means

> > 'You are the

> > sentience in sentient objects and You are the

> > insentience in

> > insentient objects';

> >

> > deep and strong conviction and SINCERE pursuit is

> > what is

> > required...; In this case, the pursuit is not an

> > exercise or a

> > technique that is foreign to the individual; it

> > cannot be even

> > compared to 'swimming' because someone has to

> teach

> > swimming to a

> > human being; this b/m/i feels that the sadhana (or

> > pursuit) suggested

> > by Maharshi is so fundamental like breathing that

> it

> > needs no

> > external help; in fact, a sadhak will feel

> external

> > help not only not

> > helpful but also a hindrance....;

> >

> > if a sensual feeling like taste cannot be

> > communicated by words but

> > become fully and perfectly clear only when

> actually

> > tasted, how can

> > anyone describe how it feels to 'Be the Self' and

> > 'what is the path

> > and experiences to go there and 'Be the Self' when

> > 'Self' is beyond

> > the sense plane and which actually activates

> > individual spirit's

> > illusory senses...?

> >

> > that is the reason vedas proclaims themselves as

> > something to be

> > discarded eventually.... (not in the beginning...,

> > lol)

> >

> > in short, there is no need to brood over the lack

> of

> > a "physical"

> > Guru; Maharshi's words act like Guru themselves

> and

> > when the time is

> > ripe, Maharshi will appear and you will "know"

> that

> > he has appeared

> > for you...

> >

> > all the above are purely this b/m/i's assimilation

> > and may or may not

> > be acceptable to others' view points; so

> > review/comments/criticisms

> > welcome; the idea is to openly share and not pose

> as

> > an expert which

> > this b/m/i knows for sure it is not... :-)

> >

> > love....

> >

> > RamanaMaharshi, Yamini

> > Gourishankar

> > <yaminigs> wrote:

> > > Hi Jacqueline and Joseph,

> > >

> > > I am copying my brother Vidyashankar here. I

> will

> > > update him when I talk to him next time. But

> feel

> > > free to connect with him and find out more about

> > > Ramanasramam.

> >

> >

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Dear Vic,

I have been thinking about your letter a lot and was going to answer last night

also suggesting lying down if you have problems sitting for a long time in

meditation. I admit that I was worried, of being “corrected” by

more “orthodox” practitioners. The truth is that I do a lot of

enquiry while lying down. Of course, there is the danger of dropping of to

sleep, but with practice it does not happen so much. And anyway it has been

recommended to to enquiry just before going to sleep and also just as you are

waking up before the I-thought rises again. The tibetans also have the

“sleeping lion” posture which is lying down on your right side,

hand under the head, legs slighty bended. The important thing is to practice

and if you are most comfortable standing on your head that’s also ok, in

my unimportant view. Of course at a retreat the group presssure might be to

high to meditate in your way, but in your 4 walls, who cares.

Anyway, our Bhagawan was an extremely tolerant Jnani. There is the story of an

american lady not being able to sit in the correct way in his presence........i

guess its a well known story. He took her side.

Who is there to be sad, I know. But I am writing from the point of the seeker so

I depense with terms like “this person etc”. We all know. Well, how

can Samsara be pleasant? And you can regard the fact that you understand this

as the greatest gift. Because as long as you seek pleasures in Samsara, there

can be no Jnana. That doesn’ t make it easier in the beginning, but as

you get along with your practice you will find a new sense of humour rising and

you will be able to face your karmas with more fortitude and sometimes you will

even be able to laugh about it all.

.. I find the whole spiritual path about as pleasant as a visit to

the dentist or the doctor. I go to the doctor's because there is something

wrong with me, but I can't claim that I like the experience. Obviously if I

didn't go, then things would be worse.

Take heart from the fact that you recognized the “illness” and whats

more: you have found the best doctor availabe to cure you. The Sadguru Ramana.

That in itself is the biggest boon.

I do not see how samsara can be pleasant until it comes to an end. The end

of course it to realize the truth that samsara is in fact nirvana. But this

needs to be fully realized.

First of all try to realize who you are. Sorry, I don’t want to sound oversmart

For me, just about every minute of every day I

am confronted by the fact that I am in a situation which I find tedious in

the extreme, along with being generally unpleasant and as far I can see -

pointless. There have been, of course, moments of clarity, but they were

just that - 'moments'. The belief that I may have that I am on a path which

will lead me to release from suffering is not sufficient to make that

suffering pleasant.

The sufferings you experience are your prarabdha karmas, the karmas that are due

in this life. The only choice you have is to identify with them or to ask

“to whom are these karmas?” With Guruji’s grace you will

acquire more fortitude to bear your load.

Mine is also really heavy and at times I feel really sorry for my little self.

But these feelings get weakened the more you are able to surrender.

I could go on for a long time, but to sum up I would say - with the greatest

respect to Sri Ramana Maharshi whose teachings I endeavour to follow - I

really do not see the point of all this suffering and I feel totally

frustrated and annoyed at having had to endure it. Even if it is

self-created or non-existent. How much nicer would it have been to be free

from this deluded mind from the outset. If somebody sees a rope and thinks

it is a poisonous snake, does he say to himself 'What a nice snake ?' - I

suspect not, his reaction is much more likely to be negative. As mine has

been so far.

Without this negative reaction there would be no end to samsara

I read in Hindu scriptures about disciples continually wailing and moaning

'when and how will I be delivered from this loathsome samsara ?!' - believe

me such disciples do not exist only in ancient scriptures ! I empathize with

them fully.

Two Sadhus were sitting under a tree. I think it was Lord Vishnu they asked when

they would get Moksha. To the first Sadhu he said, your time has almost come,

maybe only 5 or 6 lives. The sadhu started wailin. What not in this life?.

Still 5 or 6 lives. How terrible.... To the second sadhu he said: you will get

moksha after as many lives as this tree has leaves. The sadhu begab dancing

with joy. Only a few more lives and moksha will come, the lord himself has

confirmed it. How wonderful. In that minute a big storm rose and started

blowing off the leaves. As the last leaf got blown off, the sadhu realized the

self.

So its just a matter of looking at it all more positive.

Anyway, that's how I see things. Who knows, I may not be the only one ? It

may be important also for people to know that some seekers find the whole

process of seeking an unavoidable but not particularly pleasant pursuit. I

could go on, but I'll call it a day.

I think most seekers struggle. Depending on karmas more or less. Maybe focusing

on the development of love for the sadguru (and all creatures) might help. Read

about Ramana and his life. A life so pure......it brings tears to even

contemplate it. Or fall in love with the Goddess in one of her forms.

(That’s what I find so wonderful about Hinduism. There are so many

loveable forms of God, its easy to develop devotion. Look at God as a lover,

friend, father, sister, daughter. You know. I mean don’t stop enquiry,

just develop the bhakti side also. Talk to Ramanana, tell him about your

problems. After a while you will find samsaric life easier as you start to see

your beloved Godess/Guru in all beings and start hearing his voice inside more

and more clear. Because in the end even vichara is not a mental process.

If I sound confusing, please ask.

Namah Shivaya

Love from the unpleasant city of Berlin

Chris

>

>Vic, the pursuit itself is so heart-warming, induces the sathvic

>qualities so much that the pleasantness felt by you and emanating

>from you (and felt by others) is a good enough reward both in

>material and spiritual plane.... (though one shouldn't become proud

>or even complacent with such rewards, the goal of enlightenment need

>not be brooded over, it will happen when it is time);

>

>how much of tilling (vichara) is needed before the seed can be

>planted depends on how hard or easy the land's vaasanaa's (or

>tendencies or karma) is.....

>

>if the conviction is there (thru intelligence and vichara) that

>God/Guru/Grace are all one and the same and is present everywhere and

>in everyone as the substratum, every single event/person/act in this

>world (both natural acts without man's involvement and natural acts

>with man's involvement) can be taken as a guide and the pursuit

>continued;

>

>for ex. think about sunshine and sun; we cannot see sun directly; Sun

>communicates to us thru sunrays; the rays are like jivaathmaa and Sun

>the paramaathmaa; sun rays dont exist by themselves; simple things

>like this should lead us into vichara...

>

>in this b/m/i's understanding it is a full-cycle learning; first you

>negate saying 'I am not this universe' ; 'I am not this body'; 'I am

>not this mind' etc. but when you actually reach the pinnacle of

>finding yourself to be the universal self, you understand and 'know'

>that you are indeed everything (all the things you said you are not);

>

>so, when the individual spirit leaves the body to don another garb in

>its next incarnation, we cannot say the 'self' is not present in the

>dead body left behind, because 'self' is everywhere; in lalitha

>sahasranama, there is a verse which goes: 'chit sakthi chethanaa

>roopa, jadsakthir jadaathmika' which roughly means 'You are the

>sentience in sentient objects and You are the insentience in

>insentient objects';

>

>deep and strong conviction and SINCERE pursuit is what is

>required...; In this case, the pursuit is not an exercise or a

>technique that is foreign to the individual; it cannot be even

>compared to 'swimming' because someone has to teach swimming to a

>human being; this b/m/i feels that the sadhana (or pursuit) suggested

>by Maharshi is so fundamental like breathing that it needs no

>external help; in fact, a sadhak will feel external help not only not

>helpful but also a hindrance....;

>

>if a sensual feeling like taste cannot be communicated by words but

>become fully and perfectly clear only when actually tasted, how can

>anyone describe how it feels to 'Be the Self' and 'what is the path

>and experiences to go there and 'Be the Self' when 'Self' is beyond

>the sense plane and which actually activates individual spirit's

>illusory senses...?

>

>that is the reason vedas proclaims themselves as something to be

>discarded eventually.... (not in the beginning..., lol)

>

>in short, there is no need to brood over the lack of a "physical"

>Guru; Maharshi's words act like Guru themselves and when the time is

>ripe, Maharshi will appear and you will "know" that he has appeared

>for you...

>

>all the above are purely this b/m/i's assimilation and may or may not

>be acceptable to others' view points; so review/comments/criticisms

>welcome; the idea is to openly share and not pose as an expert which

>this b/m/i knows for sure it is not... :-)

>

>love....

>

>RamanaMaharshi, Yamini Gourishankar

><yaminigs> wrote:

> > Hi Jacqueline and Joseph,

> >

> > I am copying my brother Vidyashankar here. I will

> > update him when I talk to him next time. But feel

> > free to connect with him and find out more about

> > Ramanasramam.

>

>

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Thank you for being so open about your sadhana and making me at last feel at

ease with my own efforts and “holy books” in the bathroom.

Am 2/1/03 22:39 schrieb "manof678 <manof678 >" unter

<manof678 >:

Yes, empathy is definitely needed and also justified like you very

well put it...

samsaric misery is primarily due to attachment; attachment of the ego

to the body/personality which results in attachment to external

entities like relations/friends/society/wealth/hobbies etc and these

are the direct cause of misery;

the troubles this writer is undergoing in professional life and sees

other people undergoing in professional and/or personal life are

innumerable; in the midst of all this, seeking (to find the TRUTH

which brings permanent happiness) has got to be at least a change if

not a pleasant experience; of course, anything unusual or strange to

the ego will be foreign and annoying and even fearful in the

beginning.

in your case, may be it is the "exertion" or "hard striving" that

results in this pain or unpleasantness even in the spiritual pursuit;

or may be not....

if physically sitting (in exclusive meditative sessions) is causing

physical problems (stiff knees etc.), may be a lying posture may be

more helpful; there was one swamiji who suggested lying on the back

(in the sava-asana (or a 'dead body' pose) and 'letting go'

everything; this may make one feel lighter as they go (of course,

there is a risk of dozing off to sleep... :-) ;

if the pain is not physical but one of surroundings not being

conducive, occasional times in solitude (even that which is spent in

the bathroom) may be used to at least contemplate if not meditate;

this writer reads in bits and pieces (even sacred gurus' writings and

sometimes even religious oriented stuff) including, at times, in the

bathroom; yes, did wonder in the beginning if it is ok to read these

texts in the bathroom then thought as one purges the body of dirt and

filth, there is nothing wrong in purging the mind of dirt and filth

by pumping in 'wise' stuff...

as far as emanating pleasantness, I meant purely the sadhana (during

interactional times) of toning down one's ego, listening more, being

less judgemental etc. etc.

ha ha, yes, even in this writer's case, the wife always asks (or

chides), "if you reduce your ego level and consider others' abuses

and brickbats and mean behaviour as 'teachings' or 'training' for

your (spiritual) advancement , the whole world would become unfair to

you very soon. Isn't that a risk you are taking ?"; and the answer

that comes to mind is : "yes, that is true, but so be it";

the pleasantness comes because one is being less reactive and one is

able to handle such unfairness tactfully and properly...

(as they say here not being a jerk does not mean you should be a wimp)

in a conversation with a friend/work partner, this writer mentioned

that in Mahabharata, Kunti said to Krishna : "O Krishna, many may not

believe it, but I do know that you are the Lord of Universe; I also

know that we, lay humans, normally do not think of the Providence

unless we go through hardships. So, please give me only one boon:

please give grief to me always and in abundant measure so that I can

always think of you"; You know what, she got only more and more

grief" ha ha ha; So, I told my friend, we should also pray to get

grief and only grief...

the friend called back after 2 hours saying he just finished a

conversation with a customer and the customer was being very mean and

scheamy and does not understand our value despite all they have seen

so far and concluded "Murthy, here is your grief, you got it".... ha

ha ha;

life is intrinsically unfair, my dear friend; so ?

'so be it'; it doesn't matter....

instead, we may learn from this unfair world; yes, we do get

frustrated in the process; but does it lead us to dispassion or do we

continue to seek more and more 'transient' pleasure;

it is our choice to alter our course and say 'you know what, let me

see what will give me true and permanent happiness" ?; there lies our

wisdom....

of course, the above does not mean we do not take corrective action

when things go wrong or when people scheam against us; in fact, our

reaction will be more collected and proper (and immensely tactful) if

we stay (emotionally) unaffected by the unfair behaviour of the other

party...

remember reading either in Swami Vivekananda's life or somewhere

else: once a very wise disciple of a swamiji was being abused by the

other jealous disciples; I think the story goes, the mischevous ones

started throwing stones at the disciple while the latter was in

meditation and they also laughed saying ... 'haha, look at this wise

one, will the soul get affected by stones?'; after some time, it

seems the wise disciple said : 'the soul may not but the body could

and would'....

love.....

RamanaMaharshi, "vic w" <shivaguy108@h...>

wrote:

> Dear Murthy and everyone else,

>

> Thanks for the comments and the encouragement. I have to admit,

however,

> that I have never in my wildest delusions found the pursuit 'heart-

warming'

> ! And I don't believe there has been a great deal of pleasantness

emanated

 

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Dear Jacqueline and everyone else,

 

I feel like I have been through the same turbulent Jupiter spin cycle for

the last 16 years ! Is it a general thing or does each of us get to go

through a different one ? Hopefully, I might benefit from the 19 year

positive cycle too.

 

After 25 years of seeking I can imagine what a relief it must have been to

find Sri Ramana. When I found him (or, when he found me, which I suspect is

closer to the truth) back in 1974, I was pretty desperate and it was an

amazing revelation to discover someone who not only understood all the

questions I was asking but also had all the answers ! What also struck me

was his total lack of ego, which I had never encountered in any of the books

I had read or people I had met. I knew virtually nothing of Vedanta at the

time.

 

Have you read the 'Path of Sri Ramana Part I' by Sri Sadhu Om ? To my mind

it gives the best explanation of how to go about doing 'Who Am I ?' although

as I understand it, 'Who Am I ?' is the method suggested for those who can't

just 'Be Still'.

 

I don't know if you intend leaving the Ashram at all while you are there but

people speak very highly of Sri Lakshmana Swami and Saradamma, I'm not sure

if someone has mentioned them already, - they have, I believe, an Ashram

just opposite Sri Ramanashraman (perhaps someone else could confirm this ?)

 

Good luck with all the various detoxes !

 

Finally, if you, or anyone else, are interested in Hindu chanting with a

Western flavour you might like to visit this site

 

http://www.americansanskrit.com/inspire/audio.html

 

where you can download chanting (some of it free) - I recommend the 'Songs

to Shiva'. The site is nothing to do with me, so this is not an ad. !

 

Best regards

 

Vic

 

 

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Dear Vic , thanks for putting us in touch with the American Sanskrit CD's .Now

we have bhajans on

the Virtual Satsang Site ! .Ramana Jai !Whatever next ? love , In Him , Alan

 

 

 

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