Guest guest Report post Posted August 31, 2001 Given some of the discussion on Amrita Nadi yesterday, I am passing this on from on Amrita and Amrita Nadi. Love to all Harsha ************************************ Hi Dharma, The word "Amrita" is being used in two different ways here and has different meanings and different context. The term Amrita does literally refer to the "Nectar of Immortality". However, the "Amrita" that drips down from techniques similar to Kechari Mudra is not the same as Amrita Nadi. Mrityu in Sanksrit means "Death". Amrita refers to the "Nectar that makes one Deathless or immortal". If you add an A in Sanskrit to a word, it takes on the opposite meaning. For example Shok means "Grief". By adding an A in front of the word it becomes Ashok or Ashoka which means "Beyond Grief". Bhaya means "Fear", so Abhaya becomes "Without Fear, " etc. The word "Amrita" has many different uses and many contexts. For example, I was born in Amritasar which is a city in Punjab famous for the Golden Temple of the Sikh religion. The Amrita Nadi that we speak about is also sometimes called Jiva Nadi and also Para Nadi. Sri Ramana pointed out that this is a continuation of the middle nerve - Sushmana - which rises from the base of spine and goes to the brain center (Sahasarara). When the Kundalini travels upwards, prana is withdrawn from all over, resulting in the loss of body consciousness but not consciousness. Along the upward route many superconscious experiences, visitations to celestial regions, etc. can take place. This is the yogic path. When the Kundalini travels upwards the middle nerve with the mind indifferent to all experiences and reaches the brain center, then, if by Grace one is allowed to surrender completely and totally, the Shakti along with the mind (the mind being one manifestation of it) enters the Amrita Nadi, which is a continuation of Sushmana (There is no question here of nectar or anything as one is totally beyond body consciousness both gross and subtle). The upward travel of Shakti from Muladhara to Sahasarara is the yogic path. After having reached Sahasarar, the Descent of the Shakti and the Mind from the Brain Center and merging into the Spiritual Heart is the Jnana Path. Upon this entry into Amrita Nadi (Para Nadi), the Shakti and the mind are irresistibly pulled towards the Spiritual Heart. With the conscious merging of the mind and Shakti in the Heart, There is Total, Complete, and Full Self- Recognition. Pure Consciousness, Pure Self Awareness, Pure Being are some of the words to describe it. It really cannot be described as an object or an objective experience. It Is the Only Subject. Love to all Harsha Dharma [deva] Friday, August 31, 2001 1:11 AM Re: RE: [RamanaMaharshi] Digest Number 316 Hi Harsha, I'm seeing the word _amrita_ used in two ways here, 1) the Amrita Nadi: >Yes, Rob. I have not read the book but am familiar with Amrita Nadi through >personal experience. Amrita Nadi connects the Yogis and Jnanis. It is >through Amrita Nadi that the Yogi becomes a Jnani. This is why it is often >said that the "Spiritual Heart" is beyond Sahasarara. The Kundalini Shakti >after reaching Sahasarara, can with grace enter the Amrita Nadi and descend >into the frontal "Spiritual Heart" which attracts like a Huge Magnet, the >ultimate black hole, and sucks in the mind, the Shakti, and the whole >universe. Self Alone Shines As Being, Whole, Utterly Complete, Clear, Seeing >snip< and 2) the nectar or elixir that "trickles down from the sahasrara," according to Muktananda. He says it is sweet and like milk, he calls it nectar of the moon. He relates its production to movements of the tongue, especially khechari mudra. And he has a great deal to say about its many wondrous properties. Wim says it is the cerebro-spinal fluid and comes from the ventricles: >Wim: >I had an extraordinary increase in >the amount of cerebro-spinal fluid. Eventually I could not disperse the >nectar / ambrosia fast enough, there was too much of it to come down >sufficiently from the ventricles into my throat, my meninges swelled up and >eventually a severe headache resulted as well an extreme tiredness >throughout my body. >snip< > >May the elixir of divinity flow freely throughout all of us. >Soma, nectar, ambrosia, amrita, elixir of the gods, it's all the same >stuff..., when mortality concerns are overcome, one lives in and off amrita. Would you comment on these uses of the word, Harsha? THanks! Love, Dharma Richard Clarke [rclarke] Friday, August 31, 2001 8:54 AM RamanaMaharshi [RamanaMaharshi] Re: Ramana Marharshi Retreat Vicki, It is most all right with me, no offense taken. When I read your initial response I saw that my original message was assumptive and directive. These were not needed, thus my apology. I appreciate your own focus on the Truth. Like you, I want this place to be one where we are able to tell our truths (and to say the Truth as best we can). This spiritual "journey" is of utmost importance in my life. I have been graced with the presence of a great teacher (Nome at SAT), who presents the wisdom of another great teacher, Ramana. My focus is on making these teachings what I live. As I turn this focus into sustained practice, I feel the Truth closer and closer, and have had glimpses of Reality. I am so grateful that I can again hear the words or Ramana (translated into English, and presented by one standing in Self-Realization). I am also grateful for our worldwide sangha where we can share our love and spiritual journey. If ever you see me getting didactic, it may be because I have found so much spiritual benefit from taking these ideas and doing more with them that just mental appreciation of their beauty. My focus is on practice, the make the Self the place where i stand. Thank you again for your comments and for your sharing of your truths (and Truth) in this newsgroup. Not two, Richard RamanaMaharshi, "viorica weissman" <viorica@z...> wrote: > more correct to say - one truth [ not the truth ] about myself; > > I sincerely hope it is alright with you , > these dialogues have the advantage of helping us to know each other better, > I think they are welcome ; > and excuse me if I caused any offense , > but is there something better than to tell our true feelings and thoughts > when we feel we want to say something ? > [ yes , it is , not to say anything (!) ], > > and enjoy the retreat ! > vicki > > P.S . > ... and read the "Who am I?" one more time, and reflect and > meditate deeply on what it says ..... > and ,thank you , I'll do it too maybe . 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