Important. Everyone sud contribute!

May 22, 2001

Dear Guru brothers & sisters,

Jai Gurudev.

I am trying to put together a list of tasks/avenues for publicising

and increasing the membership of the Mantra Tantra Yantra Vigyan

magazine.

The basic idea behind this is to spread and propagate revered

Gurudev's message to more and more people, so that they too, obtain

benefit from this.

This is the era of advertising and publicity, and we , as disciples &

sadhaks , have to join together and utilise the marketing mediums to

spread the message. People tend to get attracted only to sweet,

sugary advertisements.

Awareness and enthusiasm about spiritual sciences has increased in

India & abroad in recent years. Many self-styled tantriks &

astrologers-of-world-fame have started producing copycat literature,

and a lot of spurious and fraud material on Mantra - Tantra,

Astrology etc. has started appearing in print , television and

internet. Many people have started to get misled by this, and these

copycats will not be able to satisy them.

There is a STRONG danger that these new-initiates will start blaming

and doubting the efficacy of the knowledge & science itself; instead

of the copycat-gurus.

We have a duty to propagate and spread the light of the true

knowledge. To do this, we will need to market the Mantra Tantra

Yantra Vigyan magazine through various mediums. I have jotted

together a basic list of proposals. Please think, and contribute your

ideas to publicise. Moroever, we should implement these ideas in our

local areas to introduce more people. Knowledge increases by

spreading, and as a disciple & sadhak, it is our main duty to

increase the magazine membership.

a. Putting an advertisement in local newspaper about Magazine ,

Sadhana Camp etc. (cud be costly for a single person, however 3-4

persons can join together and do this)

b. Printing and distributing pamphlets for sadhana camps etc. (can,

and sud be done while organising a sadhana camp)

c. Printing and putting posters about Mantra Tantra Yantra Vigyan

magazine in public areas and other high-visibility-spots (like buses,

trains etc.) (cud be costly & timeconsuming. However, the lifetime &

visibility of ad is pretty large and effective. 3-4 persons can join

together)

d. Placing an ad about Mantra Tantra Yantra Vigyan in local cable tv

(highly effective, and reaches many houses. )

e. Organising Guru Sadhana and pooja in local temple on every

Thursday and/or 3rd. 8th & 21st day every month. (Has curiosity

factor for regular temple visitors, and they might participate)

f. Talk to local public libraries, and put in 2-3 copies of magazine

(both english & hindi) in the library. (effective, however library

personnel sud take care of magazine, and keep it in library/issue for

short-time .)

g. Introduce your work colleagues/fellow students and people in your

friend circle/relatives to revered Gurudev & Mantra Tantra Yantra

Vigyan. Encourage them to become member. Don't be shy (!) in telling

people about this.

h. Talk to your local book sellers and get them to stock the

magazine. They, anyway get a good commission on the Magazine sale.

i. Publicise on internet.

j. Devote some time every month (eg. every Thursday) towards this

effort.

k. If you are a doctor/lawyer, then you may keep a copy of magazine

in your waiting room, so that people can browse thru it. However,

refrain from giving it free to anyone, as people don't recognise the

value of anything that they get free.

I have created a folder called "mtyv membership" on the

group. This message is stored on this folder as file called "initial

proposal". You can go there by clicking on files.....

You may add your comments as a separate file within this folder

itself, or u may send email replies.

It looks like that a lot of group members want to see only Sadhana &

spirituality related message traffic on the group. In recent days, we

have seen at least two "" requests, which is very bad

news. Probably these people wanted to see only Sadhana related

messages.

Thanks a lot for your time and patience in reading this message.

Awaiting your comments, Please keep the ideas flowing. Afterwords we

can put it on the "brinkster website".

Jai Gurudev

May 22, 2001

JAI GURUDEV

Dear Arvind,

Excellent work. That's what this group is all about.

> Awareness and enthusiasm about spiritual sciences has increased

> in India & abroad in recent years. Many self-styled tantriks &

> astrologers-of-world-fame have started producing copycat

> literature, and a lot of spurious and fraud material on Mantra -

> Tantra, Astrology etc. has started appearing in print ,

> television and internet. Many people have started to get misled

> by this, and these copycats will not be able to satisy them.

> There is a STRONG danger that these new-initiates will start

> blaming and doubting the efficacy of the knowledge & science

> itself; instead of the copycat-gurus.

This is happening almost everywhere including local branches

of Siddhashram Sadhak Parivar because people prefer fiction not

facts. People want miracles. They won't believe you if you tell

them the reality. We must sort out a solution and send it to

Gurudham, so that firm guideline can be worked out for branches

of SSP.

> It looks like that a lot of group members want to see only

> Sadhana & spirituality related message traffic on the group.

If they want it, we must provide them, in a balanced manner,

steering them from fiction to fact.

> Thanks a lot for your time and patience in reading this message.

Thanks to you for your time, effort and devotion.

Ashish Marathe

May 22, 2001

Jai Gurudev

Dear Shri Arvindji

I do agree with your idea of spreading the good message all around.

But I have some reservations on this. The way you have suggested is

very effective and we can increase the r list in a very fast

manner. But that boom will not be permanent. We need devotees and

true sadhaks not fly by night peoples. I think we should do some more

planning and try to popular our magazine in a stablize manner. As a

first step, I think we can use the e-mail as a medium. For this we

may prepare a good letter/e-mail describing the features of MTYM and

other spritual benefits attached, in a good manner. AFter this, we

can request our memebers to forward that e-mail from their e-

mail account to atleast 5-10 persons and sending a copy to a common e-

mail account that we can delete later. By this method alone, we can

cover around 500 persons in one go. AFter this, we may gradually

shift our focus to any other method.

But before making this publicly open, just give a thought to the

response also. Because I think people may not take it wrongly.

Jai Gurudev

Charanjit

, arvind_sharma@b... wrote:

> Dear Guru brothers & sisters,

> Jai Gurudev.

>

> I am trying to put together a list of tasks/avenues for publicising

> and increasing the membership of the Mantra Tantra Yantra Vigyan

> magazine.

> The basic idea behind this is to spread and propagate revered

> Gurudev's message to more and more people, so that they too, obtain

> benefit from this.

> This is the era of advertising and publicity, and we , as disciples

&

> sadhaks , have to join together and utilise the marketing mediums

to

> spread the message. People tend to get attracted only to sweet,

> sugary advertisements.

> Awareness and enthusiasm about spiritual sciences has increased in

> India & abroad in recent years. Many self-styled tantriks &

> astrologers-of-world-fame have started producing copycat

literature,

> and a lot of spurious and fraud material on Mantra - Tantra,

> Astrology etc. has started appearing in print , television and

> internet. Many people have started to get misled by this, and

these

> copycats will not be able to satisy them.

> There is a STRONG danger that these new-initiates will start

blaming

> and doubting the efficacy of the knowledge & science itself;

instead

> of the copycat-gurus.

>

> We have a duty to propagate and spread the light of the true

> knowledge. To do this, we will need to market the Mantra Tantra

> Yantra Vigyan magazine through various mediums. I have jotted

> together a basic list of proposals. Please think, and contribute

your

> ideas to publicise. Moroever, we should implement these ideas in

our

> local areas to introduce more people. Knowledge increases by

> spreading, and as a disciple & sadhak, it is our main duty to

> increase the magazine membership.

>

> a. Putting an advertisement in local newspaper about Magazine ,

> Sadhana Camp etc. (cud be costly for a single person, however 3-4

> persons can join together and do this)

> b. Printing and distributing pamphlets for sadhana camps etc. (can,

> and sud be done while organising a sadhana camp)

> c. Printing and putting posters about Mantra Tantra Yantra Vigyan

> magazine in public areas and other high-visibility-spots (like

buses,

> trains etc.) (cud be costly & timeconsuming. However, the lifetime

&

> visibility of ad is pretty large and effective. 3-4 persons can

join

> together)

> d. Placing an ad about Mantra Tantra Yantra Vigyan in local cable

tv

> (highly effective, and reaches many houses. )

> e. Organising Guru Sadhana and pooja in local temple on every

> Thursday and/or 3rd. 8th & 21st day every month. (Has curiosity

> factor for regular temple visitors, and they might participate)

> f. Talk to local public libraries, and put in 2-3 copies of

magazine

> (both english & hindi) in the library. (effective, however library

> personnel sud take care of magazine, and keep it in library/issue

for

> short-time .)

> g. Introduce your work colleagues/fellow students and people in

your

> friend circle/relatives to revered Gurudev & Mantra Tantra Yantra

> Vigyan. Encourage them to become member. Don't be shy (!) in

telling

> people about this.

> h. Talk to your local book sellers and get them to stock the

> magazine. They, anyway get a good commission on the Magazine sale.

> i. Publicise on internet.

> j. Devote some time every month (eg. every Thursday) towards this

> effort.

> k. If you are a doctor/lawyer, then you may keep a copy of

magazine

> in your waiting room, so that people can browse thru it. However,

> refrain from giving it free to anyone, as people don't recognise

the

> value of anything that they get free.

>

> I have created a folder called "mtyv membership" on the

> group. This message is stored on this folder as file

called "initial

> proposal". You can go there by clicking on files.....

> You may add your comments as a separate file within this folder

> itself, or u may send email replies.

>

> It looks like that a lot of group members want to see only Sadhana

&

> spirituality related message traffic on the group. In recent days,

we

> have seen at least two "" requests, which is very bad

> news. Probably these people wanted to see only Sadhana related

> messages.

>

> Thanks a lot for your time and patience in reading this message.

> Awaiting your comments, Please keep the ideas flowing. Afterwords

we

> can put it on the "brinkster website".

> Jai Gurudev

May 22, 2001

Jai Gurudev,

Thanks for your comments.

I feel that most of the people don't care much about God while the

going is good (Of course there are many exceptions to this). If one

has a stable job, a good family life, healthy & wealthy life, one

tends to stay within this "maya" (delusion), and doesn't care. One

turns to God only in case of disasters eg. problem in job, diseases,

enemities, family problems etc. etc.

Of course, there are some people who aren't satisfied by material

life, and aspire for spiritual awareness, sense of fulfilment,

meditation etc. They are the constant and pure seekers of Divine

knowledge.

Now, if one performs Sadhanas, then one should not face these

problems. Or, rather, one can solve these problems by performing

Sadhanas.

Our ancient sages knew about this, and they developed quick-acting

sadhanas to aid the common man. This knowledge is a gift to us from

our ancestors and poojya Gurudev; and we should forward this

knowledge to others , so that they benefit. Sadhanas exist for

"parhit" (to help the needy, the diseased, the poor, to elevate the

downtrodden in society etc.). It is our duty to spread this message

to them.

Mostly, one comes to Sadhana_world with lots of doubts and

apprehensions. However, as (s)he starts getting success, the

confidence, faith and devotion starts developing. Some people stay on

this path, and achieve more success. Others forget about Sadhanas and

go back into "maya" (delusion) once their problems are solved.

I will not worry about "fly-by-night" people, because, they won't get

anything here. Of course, if they wish to resolve their problems thru

this, then they are welcome to join. Our job is just to become a

medium to spread this message to every human on this planet, if I may

say so. Let everyone be aware that such "spiritual sciences" exist,

like everyone knows about "pepsi cola" on this planet!! Revered

Gurudev will take care of the rest. It really pains me to see only

73 members on this list. just 73. Only 73 people on internet are

aware about us and our message!! And two of them have sent mails to

. It is really shameful. Everyone knows about &

altavista. Even junk groups have thousands of members. Why don't they

know about us?

Everyone is familiar with "asharam bapuji" or "brahma-kumari" or

osho/rajneesh" and other self-styled acharyas, who just give some

discourses from xyz book. I am not criticising them, I am merely

pointing out that we have a real, practical, authentic knowledge to

share with rest of the world. We have something which is million

times more powerful and effective than pure bhakti , basic-meditation

or singing of hymns/bhajans. We have a very powerful legacy, and we

represent true knowledge. Why are we unknown? Staying unknown will

extinguish the little flame of knowledge that our Gurudev lighted.

Let the word spread to the masses, let everyone be aware about it. I

know that most of the people will come only to expect quick miracles,

but let them come.

Your idea about forwarding to email addresses sounds attractive,

However, it has to be done very carefully to avoid getting negative

publicity, or becoming treated as a trash/junk mail.

We had discussed about receiving junk/angry flames or trash responses

on the website before. We had some concerns about this group becoming

a trash-pot. However, I guess that with good moderating policy&effort

to delete all trash responses, we might solve this issue. Dogs will

bark only if an Elephant moves across the road. But the elephant has

to get up & walk before dogs start barking! I think that we are

big/mature enough to handle such flames.

I had prepared a sample email some time ago, by "pirating" stuff from

the website. I am attaching it again here. Any comments on

improving/changing it? :

Hullo, we invite you to the International Siddhashram Sadhak Parivar

discussion list at

This is a meeting space for friendly discussion and exchange of

ideas on Spiritual & Material Growth, Sadhanas, Mantras, Tantra,

Yoga, Ayurveda, Meditation, Astrology, Hypnotism, Paranormal,

Occult, Alchemy and other similar interests.

Mantra Tantra Yantra Vigyan is a popular monthly magazine about

ancient Indian Sciences. Started in 1981 by Revered Gurudev Dr.

Narayan Dutt Shrimaliji, it provides detailed, authentic and

practical information on Mantras, Tantric Procedures, Yantras,

Astrology, Sadhnas, Yoga, Ayurveda, Meditation, Hypnotism,

Numerology, Palmistry, Alchemy, Spiritualism ,Occult sciences etc.

and aims to remove the misconceptions and superstitions associated

with ancient Hindu rituals and practices.Ever since its conception

the monthly has been dedicated to resurrecting and revealing the

knowledge and wisdom of ancient Yogis and Rishis.It provides

practical ways to attain Spiritual Perfection stage (Poornatva) and

remove tensions, worries and problems using Prayers, Sadhnas and

Dikshas etc.

The magazine by propagating true and authentic knowledge aims at

banishing misconceptions and fears regarding the ancient Indian

knowledge of the spiritual world. The magazine carries wonderful

Sadhanas every month which can be performed in special auspicious

moments in that month for gaining solutions to the various problem of

human life. Powerful Mantra practices based on the Vedic knowledge

are revealed which could help the common man to overcome tensions,

diseases, adversities, poverty and enemies. Thousands of readers have

been initiated into the field of Sadhanas through this powerful

medium. The magazine also carries the divine experiences of Sadhaks

and disciples who have tried Sadhanas and benefited through them.

Besides it gives valuable information related forthcoming Sadhanas

camps and the monthly astrological forecast. In the new millennium

the magazine aims at providing fast and quick solutions to all

problems of modern human life.

Please visit our website www.siddhashram.org for further info.

Thanks for your kind patience.

Jai Gurudev

, "C Kumar" <ckumar99> wrote:

> Jai Gurudev

>

> Dear Shri Arvindji

> I do agree with your idea of spreading the good message all around.

> But I have some reservations on this. The way you have suggested is

> very effective and we can increase the r list in a very

fast

> manner. But that boom will not be permanent. We need devotees and

> true sadhaks not fly by night peoples. I think we should do some

more

> planning and try to popular our magazine in a stablize manner. As

a

> first step, I think we can use the e-mail as a medium. For this we

> may prepare a good letter/e-mail describing the features of MTYM

and

> other spritual benefits attached, in a good manner. AFter this, we

> can request our memebers to forward that e-mail from their

e-

> mail account to atleast 5-10 persons and sending a copy to a common

e-

> mail account that we can delete later. By this method alone, we

can

> cover around 500 persons in one go. AFter this, we may gradually

> shift our focus to any other method.

>

> But before making this publicly open, just give a thought to the

> response also. Because I think people may not take it wrongly.

>

> Jai Gurudev

> Charanjit

> , arvind_sharma@b... wrote:

> > Dear Guru brothers & sisters,

> > Jai Gurudev.

> >

> > I am trying to put together a list of tasks/avenues for

publicising

> > and increasing the membership of the Mantra Tantra Yantra Vigyan

> > magazine.

> > The basic idea behind this is to spread and propagate revered

> > Gurudev's message to more and more people, so that they too,

obtain

> > benefit from this.

> > This is the era of advertising and publicity, and we , as

disciples

> &

> > sadhaks , have to join together and utilise the marketing mediums

> to

> > spread the message. People tend to get attracted only to sweet,

> > sugary advertisements.

> > Awareness and enthusiasm about spiritual sciences has increased

in

> > India & abroad in recent years. Many self-styled tantriks &

> > astrologers-of-world-fame have started producing copycat

> literature,

> > and a lot of spurious and fraud material on Mantra - Tantra,

> > Astrology etc. has started appearing in print , television and

> > internet. Many people have started to get misled by this, and

> these

> > copycats will not be able to satisy them.

> > There is a STRONG danger that these new-initiates will start

> blaming

> > and doubting the efficacy of the knowledge & science itself;

> instead

> > of the copycat-gurus.

> >

> > We have a duty to propagate and spread the light of the true

> > knowledge. To do this, we will need to market the Mantra Tantra

> > Yantra Vigyan magazine through various mediums. I have jotted

> > together a basic list of proposals. Please think, and contribute

> your

> > ideas to publicise. Moroever, we should implement these ideas in

> our

> > local areas to introduce more people. Knowledge increases by

> > spreading, and as a disciple & sadhak, it is our main duty to

> > increase the magazine membership.

> >

> > a. Putting an advertisement in local newspaper about Magazine ,

> > Sadhana Camp etc. (cud be costly for a single person, however 3-

4

> > persons can join together and do this)

> > b. Printing and distributing pamphlets for sadhana camps etc.

(can,

> > and sud be done while organising a sadhana camp)

> > c. Printing and putting posters about Mantra Tantra Yantra Vigyan

> > magazine in public areas and other high-visibility-spots (like

> buses,

> > trains etc.) (cud be costly & timeconsuming. However, the

lifetime

> &

> > visibility of ad is pretty large and effective. 3-4 persons can

> join

> > together)

> > d. Placing an ad about Mantra Tantra Yantra Vigyan in local cable

> tv

> > (highly effective, and reaches many houses. )

> > e. Organising Guru Sadhana and pooja in local temple on every

> > Thursday and/or 3rd. 8th & 21st day every month. (Has curiosity

> > factor for regular temple visitors, and they might participate)

> > f. Talk to local public libraries, and put in 2-3 copies of

> magazine

> > (both english & hindi) in the library. (effective, however

library

> > personnel sud take care of magazine, and keep it in library/issue

> for

> > short-time .)

> > g. Introduce your work colleagues/fellow students and people in

> your

> > friend circle/relatives to revered Gurudev & Mantra Tantra Yantra

> > Vigyan. Encourage them to become member. Don't be shy (!) in

> telling

> > people about this.

> > h. Talk to your local book sellers and get them to stock the

> > magazine. They, anyway get a good commission on the Magazine sale.

> > i. Publicise on internet.

> > j. Devote some time every month (eg. every Thursday) towards this

> > effort.

> > k. If you are a doctor/lawyer, then you may keep a copy of

> magazine

> > in your waiting room, so that people can browse thru it. However,

> > refrain from giving it free to anyone, as people don't recognise

> the

> > value of anything that they get free.

> >

> > I have created a folder called "mtyv membership" on the

> > group. This message is stored on this folder as file

> called "initial

> > proposal". You can go there by clicking on files.....

> > You may add your comments as a separate file within this folder

> > itself, or u may send email replies.

> >

> > It looks like that a lot of group members want to see only

Sadhana

> &

> > spirituality related message traffic on the group. In recent

days,

> we

> > have seen at least two "" requests, which is very bad

> > news. Probably these people wanted to see only Sadhana related

> > messages.

> >

> > Thanks a lot for your time and patience in reading this message.

> > Awaiting your comments, Please keep the ideas flowing. Afterwords

> we

> > can put it on the "brinkster website".

> > Jai Gurudev

May 22, 2001

Jai Gurudev.

Dear Arvind Sharma,

I fully endorse your views about the attitude of

people that only if they have trouble, they come to

perform Sadhana and once their problem is solved, they

dont want to turn back. This is the case with every

one who does not understand Poojya Gurudev and His

interest in the welfare of his Sishyas. A true Sishya

will go on trying his best to spread the knowledge he

derived from the Poojya Gurudev for the welfare of the

common man. One more point (believe it or not)I want

to stress is that anybody who is having purva janma

link (link from previous birth)will automatically be

drawn into this net of Gurubandhu and definitely

he/she has to come to this.

You had also mentioned about large number of persons

becoming members in other Groups and only 73 in this

group. Our group may be small to-day but it is bound

to grow like a Banyan tree with showering of blessings

of Poojya Gurudev. Regarding your disappointment that

two have already opted out of this, I wish to mention

that only those who are blessed by Poojya Gurudev will

continue for ever and others will come and go and this

activity will continue as long as selfishness exists

in human mind. We need not bother about this or get

disillusioned. So long as we are on the correct path

and we are in the noble path of spreading the message

of Poojya Gurudev, nothing will stop us from proper

growth and we will definitely have the full blessings

of Poojya Gurudev.

Poojya Gurudev used say that any work well begun is

half done. You have started in right earnest and that

is a good sign for proper development. Nothing will

deter us. Go ahead. Gurudev is with us always.

Jai Gurudev

G Sankaran

--- arvind_sharma wrote:

<HR>

<tt>

Jai Gurudev,

Thanks for your comments.

I feel that most of the people don't care much about

God while the

going is good (Of course there are many exceptions to

this). If one

has a stable job, a good family life, healthy &

wealthy life, one

tends to stay within this "maya" (delusion),

and doesn't care. One

turns to God only in case of disasters eg. problem in

job, diseases,

enemities, family problems etc. etc.

Of course, there are some people who aren't satisfied

by material

life, and aspire for spiritual awareness, sense of

fulfilment,

meditation etc. They are the constant and pure

seekers of Divine

knowledge.

Now, if one performs Sadhanas, then one should not

face these

problems. Or, rather, one can solve these problems by

performing

Sadhanas.

Our ancient sages knew about this, and they developed

quick-acting

sadhanas to aid the common man. This knowledge is a

gift to us from

our ancestors and poojya Gurudev; and we should

forward this

knowledge to others , so that they benefit. Sadhanas

exist for

"parhit" (to help the needy, the diseased,

the poor, to elevate the

downtrodden in society etc.). It is our duty to spread

this message

to them.

Mostly, one comes to Sadhana_world with lots of doubts

and

apprehensions. However, as (s)he starts getting

success, the

confidence, faith and devotion starts developing. Some

people stay on

this path, and achieve more success. Others forget

about Sadhanas and

go back into "maya" (delusion) once their

problems are solved.

I will not worry about "fly-by-night"

people, because, they won't get

anything here. Of course, if they wish to resolve

their problems thru

this, then they are welcome to join. Our job is just

to become a

medium to spread this message to every human on this

planet, if I may

say so. Let everyone be aware that such

"spiritual sciences" exist,

like everyone knows about "pepsi cola" on

this planet!! Revered

Gurudev will take care of the rest. It really

pains me to see only

73 members on this list. just 73. Only 73 people

on internet are

aware about us and our message!! And two of them

have sent mails to

. It is really shameful. Everyone knows

about &

altavista. Even junk groups have thousands of members.

Why don't they

know about us?

Everyone is familiar with "asharam bapuji"

or "brahma-kumari" or

osho/rajneesh" and other self-styled acharyas,

who just give some

discourses from xyz book. I am not criticising them, I

am merely

pointing out that we have a real, practical,

authentic knowledge to

share with rest of the world. We have something which

is million

times more powerful and effective than pure bhakti ,

basic-meditation

or singing of hymns/bhajans. We have a very powerful

legacy, and we

represent true knowledge. Why are we unknown? Staying

unknown will

extinguish the little flame of knowledge that our

Gurudev lighted.

Let the word spread to the masses, let everyone be

aware about it. I

know that most of the people will come only to expect

quick miracles,

but let them come.

Your idea about forwarding to email addresses sounds

attractive,

However, it has to be done very carefully to avoid

getting negative

publicity, or becoming treated as a trash/junk

mail.

We had discussed about receiving junk/angry flames or

trash responses

on the website before. We had some concerns about this

group becoming

a trash-pot. However, I guess that with good

moderating policy&effort

to delete all trash responses, we might solve this

issue. Dogs will

bark only if an Elephant moves across the road. But

the elephant has

to get up & walk before dogs start barking!

I think that we are

big/mature enough to handle such flames.

I had prepared a sample email some time ago, by

"pirating" stuff from

the website. I am attaching it again here. Any

comments on

improving/changing it? :

Hullo, we invite you to the International Siddhashram

Sadhak Parivar

discussion list at

This is a meeting space for friendly discussion

and exchange of

ideas on Spiritual & Material Growth,

Sadhanas, Mantras, Tantra,

Yoga, Ayurveda, Meditation, Astrology, Hypnotism,

Paranormal,

Occult, Alchemy and other similar interests.

Mantra Tantra Yantra Vigyan is a popular monthly

magazine about

ancient Indian Sciences. Started in 1981 by Revered

Gurudev Dr.

Narayan Dutt Shrimaliji, it provides detailed,

authentic and

practical information on Mantras, Tantric Procedures,

Yantras,

Astrology, Sadhnas, Yoga, Ayurveda, Meditation,

Hypnotism,

Numerology, Palmistry, Alchemy, Spiritualism ,Occult

sciences etc.

and aims to remove the misconceptions and

superstitions associated

with ancient Hindu rituals and practices.Ever since

its conception

the monthly has been dedicated to resurrecting and

revealing the

knowledge and wisdom of ancient Yogis and Rishis.It

provides

practical ways to attain Spiritual Perfection stage

(Poornatva) and

remove tensions, worries and problems using Prayers,

Sadhnas and

Dikshas etc.

The magazine by propagating true and authentic

knowledge aims at

banishing misconceptions and fears regarding the

ancient Indian

knowledge of the spiritual world. The magazine carries

wonderful

Sadhanas every month which can be performed in special

auspicious

moments in that month for gaining solutions to the

various problem of

human life. Powerful Mantra practices based on the

Vedic knowledge

are revealed which could help the common man to

overcome tensions,

diseases, adversities, poverty and enemies. Thousands

of readers have

been initiated into the field of Sadhanas through this

powerful

medium. The magazine also carries the divine

experiences of Sadhaks

and disciples who have tried Sadhanas and benefited

through them.

Besides it gives valuable information related

forthcoming Sadhanas

camps and the monthly astrological forecast. In

the new millennium

the magazine aims at providing fast and quick

solutions to all

problems of modern human life.

Please visit our website www.siddhashram.org for

further info.

Thanks for your kind patience.

Jai Gurudev

, "C Kumar"

<ckumar99> wrote:

> Jai Gurudev

>

> Dear Shri Arvindji

> I do agree with your idea of spreading the good

message all around.

> But I have some reservations on this. The way you

have suggested is

> very effective and we can increase the r

list in a very

fast

> manner. But that boom will not be

permanent. We need devotees and

> true sadhaks not fly by night peoples. I think we

should do some

more

> planning and try to popular our magazine in a

stablize manner. As

a

> first step, I think we can use the e-mail as a

medium. For this we

> may prepare a good letter/e-mail describing the

features of MTYM

and

> other spritual benefits attached, in a good

manner. AFter this, we

> can request our memebers to forward that

e-mail from their

e-

> mail account to atleast 5-10 persons and sending

a copy to a common

e-

> mail account that we can delete later. By

this method alone, we

can

> cover around 500 persons in one go. AFter

this, we may gradually

> shift our focus to any other method.

>

> But before making this publicly open, just give a

thought to the

> response also. Because I think people may not

take it wrongly.

>

> Jai Gurudev

> Charanjit

> , arvind_sharma@b...

wrote:

> > Dear Guru brothers & sisters,

> > Jai Gurudev.

> >

> > I am trying to put together a list of

tasks/avenues for

publicising

> > and increasing the membership of the Mantra

Tantra Yantra Vigyan

> > magazine.

> > The basic idea behind this is to spread and

propagate revered

> > Gurudev's message to more and more people,

so that they too,

obtain

> > benefit from this.

> > This is the era of advertising and

publicity, and we , as

disciples

> &

> > sadhaks , have to join together and utilise

the marketing mediums

> to

> > spread the message. People tend to get

attracted only to sweet,

> > sugary advertisements.

> > Awareness and enthusiasm about

spiritual sciences has increased

in

> > India & abroad in recent years.

Many self-styled tantriks &

> > astrologers-of-world-fame have started

producing copycat

> literature,

> > and a lot of spurious and fraud material on

Mantra - Tantra,

> > Astrology etc. has started appearing

in print , television and

> > internet. Many people have started to

get misled by this, and

> these

> > copycats will not be able to satisy

them.

> > There is a STRONG danger that these

new-initiates will start

> blaming

> > and doubting the efficacy of the knowledge

& science itself;

> instead

> > of the copycat-gurus.

> >

> > We have a duty to propagate and spread the

light of the true

> > knowledge. To do this, we will need to

market the Mantra Tantra

> > Yantra Vigyan magazine through various

mediums. I have jotted

> > together a basic list of proposals. Please

think, and contribute

> your

> > ideas to publicise. Moroever, we should

implement these ideas in

> our

> > local areas to introduce more people.

Knowledge increases by

> > spreading, and as a disciple & sadhak,

it is our main duty to

> > increase the magazine membership.

> >

> > a. Putting an advertisement in local

newspaper about Magazine ,

> > Sadhana Camp etc. (cud be costly

for a single person, however 3-

4

> > persons can join together and do this)

> > b. Printing and distributing pamphlets for

sadhana camps etc.

(can,

> > and sud be done while organising a sadhana

camp)

> > c. Printing and putting posters about Mantra

Tantra Yantra Vigyan

> > magazine in public areas and other

high-visibility-spots (like

> buses,

> > trains etc.) (cud be costly &

timeconsuming. However, the

lifetime

> &

> > visibility of ad is pretty large and

effective. 3-4 persons can

> join

> > together)

> > d. Placing an ad about Mantra Tantra Yantra

Vigyan in local cable

> tv

> > (highly effective, and reaches many

houses. )

> > e. Organising Guru Sadhana and pooja in

local temple on every

> > Thursday and/or 3rd. 8th & 21st day

every month. (Has curiosity

> > factor for regular temple visitors, and they

might participate)

> > f. Talk to local public libraries, and

put in 2-3 copies of

> magazine

> > (both english & hindi) in the library.

(effective, however

library

> > personnel sud take care of magazine, and

keep it in library/issue

> for

> > short-time .)

> > g. Introduce your work colleagues/fellow

students and people in

> your

> > friend circle/relatives to revered Gurudev

& Mantra Tantra Yantra

> > Vigyan. Encourage them to become member.

Don't be shy (!) in

> telling

> > people about this.

> > h. Talk to your local book sellers and get

them to stock the

> > magazine. They, anyway get a good commission

on the Magazine sale.

> > i. Publicise on internet.

> > j. Devote some time every month (eg. every

Thursday) towards this

> > effort.

> > k. If you are a doctor/lawyer, then you may

keep a copy of

> magazine

> > in your waiting room, so that people can

browse thru it. However,

> > refrain from giving it free to anyone, as

people don't recognise

> the

> > value of anything that they get free.

> >

> > I have created a folder called "mtyv

membership" on the

> > group. This message is stored on this folder

as file

> called "initial

> > proposal". You can go there by clicking

on files.....

> > You may add your comments as a separate file

within this folder

> > itself, or u may send email replies.

> >

> > It looks like that a lot of group

members want to see only

Sadhana

> &

> > spirituality related message traffic on the

group. In recent

days,

> we

> > have seen at least two

"" requests, which is very bad

> > news. Probably these people wanted to see

only Sadhana related

> > messages.

> >

> > Thanks a lot for your time and patience in

reading this message.

> > Awaiting your comments, Please keep the

ideas flowing. Afterwords

> we

> > can put it on the "brinkster

website".

> > Jai Gurudev

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Dear Arvind,

> Let everyone be aware that such "spiritual sciences" exist,

> like everyone knows about "pepsi cola" on this planet!! Revered

> Gurudev will take care of the rest.

Okay! Let's do it.

> It really pains me to see only 73 members on this list. just 73.

> Only 73 people on internet are aware about us and our message!!

> Even junk groups have thousands of members.

Size doesn't always matter. As long as we are aware of our duties,

we can overcome millions.

> We have something which is million times more powerful and

> effective than pure bhakti , basic-meditation or singing of

> hymns/bhajans. We have a very powerful legacy, and we

> represent true knowledge. Why are we unknown?

We are not well known because our powerful legacy is not immune

to misuse. In wrong hands, it could be deadly.

> Your idea about forwarding to email addresses sounds attractive,

> However, it has to be done very carefully to avoid getting

> negative publicity, or becoming treated as a trash/junk mail.

I would not advice unsolicited mailing.

> I had prepared a sample email some time ago, by "pirating" stuff

> from the website. I am attaching it again here. Any comments on

> improving/changing it?

How would we use this mail without being declared spammers?

Ashish Marathe

May 22, 2001

arvind_sharma (AT) bigfoot (DOT) com wrote:

Jai Gurudev,Thanks for your comments.I feel that most of the people don't care

much about God while the going is good (Of course there are many exceptions to

this). If one has a stable job, a good family life, healthy & wealthy life, one

tends to stay within this "maya" (delusion), and doesn't care. One turns to God

only in case of disasters eg. problem in job, diseases, enemities, family

problems etc. etc. Of course, there are some people who aren't satisfied by

material life, and aspire for spiritual awareness, sense of fulfilment,

meditation etc. They are the constant and pure seekers of Divine

knowledge.Now, if one performs Sadhanas, then one should not face these

problems. Or, rather, one can solve these problems by performing Sadhanas. Our

ancient sages knew about this, and they developed quick-acting sadhanas to aid

the common man. This knowledge is a gift to us from our ancestors and poojya

Gurudev; and we should forward this knowledge to others , so that they benefit.

Sadhanas exist for "parhit" (to help the needy, the diseased, the poor, to

elevate the downtrodden in society etc.). It is our duty to spread this message

to them.Mostly, one comes to Sadhana_world with lots of doubts and

apprehensions. However, as (s)he starts getting success, the confidence, faith

and devotion starts developing. Some people stay on this path, and achieve more

success. Others forget about Sadhanas and go back into "maya" (delusion) once

their problems are solved. I will not worry about "fly-by-night" people,

because, they won't get anything here. Of course, if they wish to resolve their

problems thru this, then they are welcome to join. Our job is just to become a

medium to spread this message to every human on this planet, if I may say so.

Let everyone be aware that such "spiritual sciences" exist, like everyone knows

about "pepsi cola" on this planet!! Revered Gurudev will take care of the rest.

It really pains me to see only 73 members on this list. just 73. Only 73 people

on internet are aware about us and our message!! And two of them have sent

mails to . It is really shameful. Everyone knows about &

altavista. Even junk groups have thousands of members. Why don't they know

about us? Everyone is familiar with "asharam bapuji" or "brahma-kumari" or

osho/rajneesh" and other self-styled acharyas, who just give some discourses

from xyz book. I am not criticising them, I am merely pointing out that we have

a real, practical, authentic knowledge to share with rest of the world. We have

something which is million times more powerful and effective than pure bhakti ,

basic-meditation or singing of hymns/bhajans. We have a very powerful legacy,

and we represent true knowledge. Why are we unknown? Staying unknown will

extinguish the little flame of knowledge that our Gurudev lighted. Let the word

spread to the masses, let everyone be aware about it. I know that most of the

people will come only to expect quick miracles, but let them come. Your idea

about forwarding to email addresses sounds attractive, However, it has to be

done very carefully to avoid getting negative publicity, or becoming treated as

a trash/junk mail. We had discussed about receiving junk/angry flames or trash

responses on the website before. We had some concerns about this group becoming

a trash-pot. However, I guess that with good moderating policy&effort to delete

all trash responses, we might solve this issue. Dogs will bark only if an

Elephant moves across the road. But the elephant has to get up & walk before

dogs start barking! I think that we are big/mature enough to handle such

flames.I had prepared a sample email some time ago, by "pirating" stuff from

the website. I am attaching it again here. Any comments on improving/changing

it? : Hullo, we invite you to the International Siddhashram Sadhak Parivar

discussion list at This is a meeting space for

friendly discussion and exchange of ideas on Spiritual & Material Growth,

Sadhanas, Mantras, Tantra, Yoga, Ayurveda, Meditation, Astrology, Hypnotism,

Paranormal, Occult, Alchemy and other similar interests.Mantra Tantra Yantra

Vigyan is a popular monthly magazine about ancient Indian Sciences. Started in

1981 by Revered Gurudev Dr. Narayan Dutt Shrimaliji, it provides detailed,

authentic and practical information on Mantras, Tantric Procedures, Yantras,

Astrology, Sadhnas, Yoga, Ayurveda, Meditation, Hypnotism, Numerology,

Palmistry, Alchemy, Spiritualism ,Occult sciences etc. and aims to remove the

misconceptions and superstitions associated with ancient Hindu rituals and

practices.Ever since its conception the monthly has been dedicated to

resurrecting and revealing the knowledge and wisdom of ancient Yogis and

Rishis.It provides practical ways to attain Spiritual Perfection stage

(Poornatva) and remove tensions, worries and problems using Prayers, Sadhnas

and Dikshas etc. The magazine by propagating true and authentic knowledge aims

at banishing misconceptions and fears regarding the ancient Indian knowledge of

the spiritual world. The magazine carries wonderful Sadhanas every month which

can be performed in special auspicious moments in that month for gaining

solutions to the various problem of human life. Powerful Mantra practices based

on the Vedic knowledge are revealed which could help the common man to overcome

tensions, diseases, adversities, poverty and enemies. Thousands of readers have

been initiated into the field of Sadhanas through this powerful medium. The

magazine also carries the divine experiences of Sadhaks and disciples who have

tried Sadhanas and benefited through them. Besides it gives valuable

information related forthcoming Sadhanas camps and the monthly astrological

forecast. In the new millennium the magazine aims at providing fast and quick

solutions to all problems of modern human life. Please visit our website

www.siddhashram.org for further info.Thanks for your kind patience.Jai

Gurudev

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May 24, 2001

Dear Guru Bhai

Jay Guru Dev

There was a coverage on " Remote Viewing " An experimental use of this

Sadhana by NASA on the National Geographic Channel.Remote viewing used by

NASA to search for missing equipment and people (mostly at war like

situation). Experimented through imatures who think that this is gifted by

Nature (God) not through solely practice. Very interesting. But not on the

right direction. They do not emphasise about that you can achieve it by

practice (Sadhna) and no mention of Hindu Researchers (Rishi Munies) who

have found that it can be done and scripted how you can get it and practiced

and made people practiced.

Any way it is worth watching if it is retelecast by the channel. Some mile

Stone on Sat Guru Dev's proclamation of Hinduism and Hindu Bigyan (Hindu

Science)

Pram Pujya Guru Dev ki Jaya

Pram Bandaniya Matashri ki Jaya

Pram Pujya Guru Trimurti ki Jaya

bishnu

Global Medicine Pvt. Ltd.,

3/555 Harihar Bhavan

P. O. Box 5659, Kathmandu, Nepal

Fax 977 1 523282, Phone 977 1 528372

-

<arvind_sharma

<>

Tuesday, May 22, 2001 6:07 AM

Re: Important. Everyone sud contribute!

> Jai Gurudev,

> Thanks for your comments.

> I feel that most of the people don't care much about God while the

> going is good (Of course there are many exceptions to this). If one

> has a stable job, a good family life, healthy & wealthy life, one

> tends to stay within this "maya" (delusion), and doesn't care. One

> turns to God only in case of disasters eg. problem in job, diseases,

> enemities, family problems etc. etc.

> Of course, there are some people who aren't satisfied by material

> life, and aspire for spiritual awareness, sense of fulfilment,

> meditation etc. They are the constant and pure seekers of Divine

> knowledge.

> Now, if one performs Sadhanas, then one should not face these

> problems. Or, rather, one can solve these problems by performing

> Sadhanas.

> Our ancient sages knew about this, and they developed quick-acting

> sadhanas to aid the common man. This knowledge is a gift to us from

> our ancestors and poojya Gurudev; and we should forward this

> knowledge to others , so that they benefit. Sadhanas exist for

> "parhit" (to help the needy, the diseased, the poor, to elevate the

> downtrodden in society etc.). It is our duty to spread this message

> to them.

> Mostly, one comes to Sadhana_world with lots of doubts and

> apprehensions. However, as (s)he starts getting success, the

> confidence, faith and devotion starts developing. Some people stay on

> this path, and achieve more success. Others forget about Sadhanas and

> go back into "maya" (delusion) once their problems are solved.

> I will not worry about "fly-by-night" people, because, they won't get

> anything here. Of course, if they wish to resolve their problems thru

> this, then they are welcome to join. Our job is just to become a

> medium to spread this message to every human on this planet, if I may

> say so. Let everyone be aware that such "spiritual sciences" exist,

> like everyone knows about "pepsi cola" on this planet!! Revered

> Gurudev will take care of the rest. It really pains me to see only

> 73 members on this list. just 73. Only 73 people on internet are

> aware about us and our message!! And two of them have sent mails to

> . It is really shameful. Everyone knows about &

> altavista. Even junk groups have thousands of members. Why don't they

> know about us?

> Everyone is familiar with "asharam bapuji" or "brahma-kumari" or

> osho/rajneesh" and other self-styled acharyas, who just give some

> discourses from xyz book. I am not criticising them, I am merely

> pointing out that we have a real, practical, authentic knowledge to

> share with rest of the world. We have something which is million

> times more powerful and effective than pure bhakti , basic-meditation

> or singing of hymns/bhajans. We have a very powerful legacy, and we

> represent true knowledge. Why are we unknown? Staying unknown will

> extinguish the little flame of knowledge that our Gurudev lighted.

> Let the word spread to the masses, let everyone be aware about it. I

> know that most of the people will come only to expect quick miracles,

> but let them come.

>

> Your idea about forwarding to email addresses sounds attractive,

> However, it has to be done very carefully to avoid getting negative

> publicity, or becoming treated as a trash/junk mail.

>

> We had discussed about receiving junk/angry flames or trash responses

> on the website before. We had some concerns about this group becoming

> a trash-pot. However, I guess that with good moderating policy&effort

> to delete all trash responses, we might solve this issue. Dogs will

> bark only if an Elephant moves across the road. But the elephant has

> to get up & walk before dogs start barking! I think that we are

> big/mature enough to handle such flames.

>

> I had prepared a sample email some time ago, by "pirating" stuff from

> the website. I am attaching it again here. Any comments on

> improving/changing it? :

> Hullo, we invite you to the International Siddhashram Sadhak Parivar

> discussion list at

> This is a meeting space for friendly discussion and exchange of

> ideas on Spiritual & Material Growth, Sadhanas, Mantras, Tantra,

> Yoga, Ayurveda, Meditation, Astrology, Hypnotism, Paranormal,

> Occult, Alchemy and other similar interests.

> Mantra Tantra Yantra Vigyan is a popular monthly magazine about

> ancient Indian Sciences. Started in 1981 by Revered Gurudev Dr.

> Narayan Dutt Shrimaliji, it provides detailed, authentic and

> practical information on Mantras, Tantric Procedures, Yantras,

> Astrology, Sadhnas, Yoga, Ayurveda, Meditation, Hypnotism,

> Numerology, Palmistry, Alchemy, Spiritualism ,Occult sciences etc.

> and aims to remove the misconceptions and superstitions associated

> with ancient Hindu rituals and practices.Ever since its conception

> the monthly has been dedicated to resurrecting and revealing the

> knowledge and wisdom of ancient Yogis and Rishis.It provides

> practical ways to attain Spiritual Perfection stage (Poornatva) and

> remove tensions, worries and problems using Prayers, Sadhnas and

> Dikshas etc.

> The magazine by propagating true and authentic knowledge aims at

> banishing misconceptions and fears regarding the ancient Indian

> knowledge of the spiritual world. The magazine carries wonderful

> Sadhanas every month which can be performed in special auspicious

> moments in that month for gaining solutions to the various problem of

> human life. Powerful Mantra practices based on the Vedic knowledge

> are revealed which could help the common man to overcome tensions,

> diseases, adversities, poverty and enemies. Thousands of readers have

> been initiated into the field of Sadhanas through this powerful

> medium. The magazine also carries the divine experiences of Sadhaks

> and disciples who have tried Sadhanas and benefited through them.

> Besides it gives valuable information related forthcoming Sadhanas

> camps and the monthly astrological forecast. In the new millennium

> the magazine aims at providing fast and quick solutions to all

> problems of modern human life.

> Please visit our website www.siddhashram.org for further info.

> Thanks for your kind patience.

>

> Jai Gurudev

> , "C Kumar" <ckumar99> wrote:

> > Jai Gurudev

> >

> > Dear Shri Arvindji

> > I do agree with your idea of spreading the good message all around.

> > But I have some reservations on this. The way you have suggested is

> > very effective and we can increase the r list in a very

> fast

> > manner. But that boom will not be permanent. We need devotees and

> > true sadhaks not fly by night peoples. I think we should do some

> more

> > planning and try to popular our magazine in a stablize manner. As

> a

> > first step, I think we can use the e-mail as a medium. For this we

> > may prepare a good letter/e-mail describing the features of MTYM

> and

> > other spritual benefits attached, in a good manner. AFter this, we

> > can request our memebers to forward that e-mail from their

> e-

> > mail account to atleast 5-10 persons and sending a copy to a common

> e-

> > mail account that we can delete later. By this method alone, we

> can

> > cover around 500 persons in one go. AFter this, we may gradually

> > shift our focus to any other method.

> >

> > But before making this publicly open, just give a thought to the

> > response also. Because I think people may not take it wrongly.

> >

> > Jai Gurudev

> > Charanjit

> > , arvind_sharma@b... wrote:

> > > Dear Guru brothers & sisters,

> > > Jai Gurudev.

> > >

> > > I am trying to put together a list of tasks/avenues for

> publicising

> > > and increasing the membership of the Mantra Tantra Yantra Vigyan

> > > magazine.

> > > The basic idea behind this is to spread and propagate revered

> > > Gurudev's message to more and more people, so that they too,

> obtain

> > > benefit from this.

> > > This is the era of advertising and publicity, and we , as

> disciples

> > &

> > > sadhaks , have to join together and utilise the marketing mediums

> > to

> > > spread the message. People tend to get attracted only to sweet,

> > > sugary advertisements.

> > > Awareness and enthusiasm about spiritual sciences has increased

> in

> > > India & abroad in recent years. Many self-styled tantriks &

> > > astrologers-of-world-fame have started producing copycat

> > literature,

> > > and a lot of spurious and fraud material on Mantra - Tantra,

> > > Astrology etc. has started appearing in print , television and

> > > internet. Many people have started to get misled by this, and

> > these

> > > copycats will not be able to satisy them.

> > > There is a STRONG danger that these new-initiates will start

> > blaming

> > > and doubting the efficacy of the knowledge & science itself;

> > instead

> > > of the copycat-gurus.

> > >

> > > We have a duty to propagate and spread the light of the true

> > > knowledge. To do this, we will need to market the Mantra Tantra

> > > Yantra Vigyan magazine through various mediums. I have jotted

> > > together a basic list of proposals. Please think, and contribute

> > your

> > > ideas to publicise. Moroever, we should implement these ideas in

> > our

> > > local areas to introduce more people. Knowledge increases by

> > > spreading, and as a disciple & sadhak, it is our main duty to

> > > increase the magazine membership.

> > >

> > > a. Putting an advertisement in local newspaper about Magazine ,

> > > Sadhana Camp etc. (cud be costly for a single person, however 3-

> 4

> > > persons can join together and do this)

> > > b. Printing and distributing pamphlets for sadhana camps etc.

> (can,

> > > and sud be done while organising a sadhana camp)

> > > c. Printing and putting posters about Mantra Tantra Yantra Vigyan

> > > magazine in public areas and other high-visibility-spots (like

> > buses,

> > > trains etc.) (cud be costly & timeconsuming. However, the

> lifetime

> > &

> > > visibility of ad is pretty large and effective. 3-4 persons can

> > join

> > > together)

> > > d. Placing an ad about Mantra Tantra Yantra Vigyan in local cable

> > tv

> > > (highly effective, and reaches many houses. )

> > > e. Organising Guru Sadhana and pooja in local temple on every

> > > Thursday and/or 3rd. 8th & 21st day every month. (Has curiosity

> > > factor for regular temple visitors, and they might participate)

> > > f. Talk to local public libraries, and put in 2-3 copies of

> > magazine

> > > (both english & hindi) in the library. (effective, however

> library

> > > personnel sud take care of magazine, and keep it in library/issue

> > for

> > > short-time .)

> > > g. Introduce your work colleagues/fellow students and people in

> > your

> > > friend circle/relatives to revered Gurudev & Mantra Tantra Yantra

> > > Vigyan. Encourage them to become member. Don't be shy (!) in

> > telling

> > > people about this.

> > > h. Talk to your local book sellers and get them to stock the

> > > magazine. They, anyway get a good commission on the Magazine sale.

> > > i. Publicise on internet.

> > > j. Devote some time every month (eg. every Thursday) towards this

> > > effort.

> > > k. If you are a doctor/lawyer, then you may keep a copy of

> > magazine

> > > in your waiting room, so that people can browse thru it. However,

> > > refrain from giving it free to anyone, as people don't recognise

> > the

> > > value of anything that they get free.

> > >

> > > I have created a folder called "mtyv membership" on the

> > > group. This message is stored on this folder as file

> > called "initial

> > > proposal". You can go there by clicking on files.....

> > > You may add your comments as a separate file within this folder

> > > itself, or u may send email replies.

> > >

> > > It looks like that a lot of group members want to see only

> Sadhana

> > &

> > > spirituality related message traffic on the group. In recent

> days,

> > we

> > > have seen at least two "" requests, which is very bad

> > > news. Probably these people wanted to see only Sadhana related

> > > messages.

> > >

> > > Thanks a lot for your time and patience in reading this message.

> > > Awaiting your comments, Please keep the ideas flowing. Afterwords

> > we

> > > can put it on the "brinkster website".

> > > Jai Gurudev

>

> Jay Gurudev

>

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