Vikrant list of questions (Mantra)

[Guest guest]

Namaste Richard

 

I have been reading Devi Mahatmya (in English, for lack of Sanskrit),

> in which it has that Devi is intelligence, She is also error. She is

> all.

 

 

Another way to look at this is the Mother is the source of all dualities

(buddhi and bhranti, avidya and vidya, man and women) but is also beyond

them.

 

The commentator of the version I am reading (Devadatta Kali)

> interprets the scripture as embodying the conflict and conquest of

> the body and senses (my interpretation of D.K.).

 

 

I too have read Devadatta Kali's work, and highly recommend it. I would

also recommend reading at least one other translation of Chandi - as an

English speaker I think it's more helpful for getting the context and beauty

of the scripture.

 

The Battle of Durga is a spiritual battle that takes place within the

devotee as well.

 

Does this infer

> that goddess Devi of the scripture is really ourselves? I feel this

> is so, and that She in fact is us here and now anyway, but would like

> to have feedback from the group. This, anyway, is what this myth has

> come to mean, and how I experience it.

>

>

The Mother is everything. Saying it is easy, realizing it and feeling it

takes much practice and devotion.

 

Some links you might like:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devi_Mahatmyam

http://www.geocities.com/poowyll/east/devi.mahatmyam.pdf

http://www.geocities.com/ramya475/DeviMahatmyam2.htm

 

--

-Santo

"Aum Shanti Shanti Shantih."

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Richard,

 

I agree with you. It is not all bright white with heavenly harps, else saying

she was ALL will be meaningless. She could just as well be a heavenly Mother as

a viscious Beast. Well then what is Maya, a state of Mind. Perhaps this is why

all the Sages have such 'long' faces, except Krishna :-) - an understanding I

accept from Osho in seriousness and humour. I guess when we know the ULTIMATE

TRUTH, these dark and light intutions will cease, or perhaps not :-))

 

Foor me I love my Black Beauty, sweetest Kali, or again is that just the depth

of the sky ?!

 

Does it all boil down to zilch ? Sadhana ! Sadhana ! Sadhana ! Help !!!

 

Confused,

 

Red

 

ksnwcz <ksnwcz wrote: Namaste to all,

 

Litsol wrote that: I m sorry, how come u can say light is divine or

there is divine light ? God is very much present in dark also, dark

is equally divine.

 

I have been reading Devi Mahatmya (in English, for lack of Sanskrit),

in which it has that Devi is intelligence, She is also error. She is

all.

 

The commentator of the version I am reading (Devadatta Kali)

interprets the scripture as embodying the conflict and conquest of

the body and senses (my interpretation of D.K.). Does this infer

that goddess Devi of the scripture is really ourselves? I feel this

is so, and that She in fact is us here and now anyway, but would like

to have feedback from the group. This, anyway, is what this myth has

come to mean, and how I experience it.

 

Thank you, Richard

[Guest guest]

Mr. Red,

 

Unless u experience urself , u will be asking others and

referring to scriptures. and making borrowed concepts, thinking this

or that is good.

 

so, ask maa only.

 

 

 

> Hi Richard,

>

> I agree with you. It is not all bright white with heavenly harps,

else saying she was ALL will be meaningless. She could just as well

be a heavenly Mother as a viscious Beast. Well then what is Maya, a

state of Mind. Perhaps this is why all the Sages have such 'long'

faces, except Krishna :-) - an understanding I accept from Osho in

seriousness and humour. I guess when we know the ULTIMATE TRUTH,

these dark and light intutions will cease, or perhaps not :-))

>

> Foor me I love my Black Beauty, sweetest Kali, or again is that

just the depth of the sky ?!

>

> Does it all boil down to zilch ? Sadhana ! Sadhana ! Sadhana !

Help !!!

>

> Confused,

>

> Red

[Guest guest]

Ah! but you are forgetting something. MAA too manifest in many

forms. In the form of scriptures and others. Rejecting the

scriptures or concepts from others, is like rejecting MAA too. This

is MAA's laila yes!

 

Its good to ask. To find out from others. The point is you are given

the brain to think. To rationalise for yourself. Must you accept

everything that you see and hear. The point is when this EGO refuses

to bow down before others, refusing to accept or acknowledge others

concept, and get itself trap in its own illusion. Humility goes a

long way. One of the many attributes of MAA herself, dont you agree

litsol?

 

 

 

 

 

, "litsol" <litsol wrote:

>

> Mr. Red,

>

> Unless u experience urself , u will be asking others and

> referring to scriptures. and making borrowed concepts, thinking

this

> or that is good.

>

> so, ask maa only.

>

>

>

>

> > Hi Richard,

> >

> > I agree with you. It is not all bright white with heavenly

harps,

> else saying she was ALL will be meaningless. She could just as

well

> be a heavenly Mother as a viscious Beast. Well then what is Maya,

a

> state of Mind. Perhaps this is why all the Sages have such 'long'

> faces, except Krishna :-) - an understanding I accept from Osho in

> seriousness and humour. I guess when we know the ULTIMATE TRUTH,

> these dark and light intutions will cease, or perhaps not :-))

> >

> > Foor me I love my Black Beauty, sweetest Kali, or again is that

> just the depth of the sky ?!

> >

> > Does it all boil down to zilch ? Sadhana ! Sadhana ! Sadhana !

> Help !!!

> >

> > Confused,

> >

> > Red

>

[Guest guest]

I m not rejecting any thing, any scripturs, rather, i m giving stress

to not to spend life in reading scriptures and listening to other's,

pls. try to have sth of ur own, think for it otherwise u or me,

whosoever it is, just doing imaginations and nothing else

 

I have read somewhere that just by purchasing medicines ur ilness is

not removed and u dont get well, like wise, by repeating "Aham

Brahmasmi" or assuming "I m the same god, or god is in everything" u

dont get liberation.

 

there is no room for imagination and assumption, read scriptures, and

do it practically, know the engineering behind.

 

or we will remain open to referring sth or the other and then

thinking someone is bad or good coz his beliefs are having a cross

with others, truth is only one, inspite of many hundreds

explainations, so have a dip into realization and come up with true

knowledge.

 

also not to look at any person whether it's me or any one else, if he

has done some sadhan or had some recognition or had realization, dont

make someone hero and see urself bound to follow whatever he said.

 

first and foremost thing is to ensure if our mind is free ?

 

when i denied to meditate on maa durga, my guru said ok, u dont

concentrate on any form of maa, i said it's what that i want, after i

see her, i will meditate on her. so , all the time i chanted without

meditation and one day she came to me, saying it's me.

 

regards,

Lalit.

 

 

 

 

, "NMadasamy" <nmadasamy

wrote:

>

>

>

> Ah! but you are forgetting something. MAA too manifest in many

> forms. In the form of scriptures and others. Rejecting the

> scriptures or concepts from others, is like rejecting MAA too. This

> is MAA's laila yes!

>

> Its good to ask. To find out from others. The point is you are

given

> the brain to think. To rationalise for yourself. Must you accept

> everything that you see and hear. The point is when this EGO

refuses

> to bow down before others, refusing to accept or acknowledge others

> concept, and get itself trap in its own illusion. Humility goes a

> long way. One of the many attributes of MAA herself, dont you agree

> litsol?

>

>

>

>

>

> , "litsol" <litsol@> wrote:

> >

> > Mr. Red,

> >

> > Unless u experience urself , u will be asking others and

> > referring to scriptures. and making borrowed concepts, thinking

> this

> > or that is good.

> >

> > so, ask maa only.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > > Hi Richard,

> > >

> > > I agree with you. It is not all bright white with heavenly

> harps,

> > else saying she was ALL will be meaningless. She could just as

> well

> > be a heavenly Mother as a viscious Beast. Well then what is

Maya,

> a

> > state of Mind. Perhaps this is why all the Sages have

such 'long'

> > faces, except Krishna :-) - an understanding I accept from Osho

in

> > seriousness and humour. I guess when we know the ULTIMATE TRUTH,

> > these dark and light intutions will cease, or perhaps not :-))

> > >

> > > Foor me I love my Black Beauty, sweetest Kali, or again is that

> > just the depth of the sky ?!

> > >

> > > Does it all boil down to zilch ? Sadhana ! Sadhana !

Sadhana !

> > Help !!!

> > >

> > > Confused,

> > >

> > > Red

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Then you should have read the introduction in our group front page :

 

"Make information available. Let people take it or leave it, think

it is true or false, judge you as they think fit. Tell them: 'Come

here if you like. Don't come if you don't like. Only try to see for

yourself. Don't blindly accept what others say.'"

 

~ Sri Amritananda Natha Saraswati

 

 

You see the word : DONT BLINDLY ACCEPT WHAT OTHERS SAY..."

 

 

 

 

, "litsol" <litsol wrote:

>

>

> I m not rejecting any thing, any scripturs, rather, i m giving

stress

> to not to spend life in reading scriptures and listening to

other's,

> pls. try to have sth of ur own, think for it otherwise u or me,

> whosoever it is, just doing imaginations and nothing else

>

> I have read somewhere that just by purchasing medicines ur ilness

is

> not removed and u dont get well, like wise, by repeating "Aham

> Brahmasmi" or assuming "I m the same god, or god is in everything"

u

> dont get liberation.

>

> there is no room for imagination and assumption, read scriptures,

and

> do it practically, know the engineering behind.

>

> or we will remain open to referring sth or the other and then

> thinking someone is bad or good coz his beliefs are having a cross

> with others, truth is only one, inspite of many hundreds

> explainations, so have a dip into realization and come up with

true

> knowledge.

>

> also not to look at any person whether it's me or any one else, if

he

> has done some sadhan or had some recognition or had realization,

dont

> make someone hero and see urself bound to follow whatever he said.

>

> first and foremost thing is to ensure if our mind is free ?

>

> when i denied to meditate on maa durga, my guru said ok, u dont

> concentrate on any form of maa, i said it's what that i want,

after i

> see her, i will meditate on her. so , all the time i chanted

without

> meditation and one day she came to me, saying it's me.

>

> regards,

> Lalit.

>

>

>

>

> , "NMadasamy" <nmadasamy@>

> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > Ah! but you are forgetting something. MAA too manifest in many

> > forms. In the form of scriptures and others. Rejecting the

> > scriptures or concepts from others, is like rejecting MAA too.

This

> > is MAA's laila yes!

> >

> > Its good to ask. To find out from others. The point is you are

> given

> > the brain to think. To rationalise for yourself. Must you accept

> > everything that you see and hear. The point is when this EGO

> refuses

> > to bow down before others, refusing to accept or acknowledge

others

> > concept, and get itself trap in its own illusion. Humility goes

a

> > long way. One of the many attributes of MAA herself, dont you

agree

> > litsol?