Statues of Gurus

May 11, 2005

This sort of material creation is different from what before was considered

follow the flow of money and see what is important, or whatever. The Nazis had a

lot of wealth, and in fact put an end to the Depression in Germany, so one can't

make moral blanket statements about wealth or flow at all ever. All that one

does have is their own feelings regarding wealth and the creation thereof.

Wealth is not bad. It just depends how it was made. Pumping toxins into the

enviroment can make wealth. Dealing crack cocaine can make great wealth. So

also money can be made through health providing and so many other honest and

healthy means. yes, this sort of thinking MA is very good. Money is being made

by more people of spiritual bent now, as all these health and yoga markets show.

Deepak gave the graduation speech at Maharishi International University the year

I graduated there. I always thought of him primarily as a pundit for the

Maharishi. No matter how far he has come I have heard most of this before in the

TMO. My point. I don't know really. I don't really like him myself. I think he

is sort of on autopilot, and providing others with leftovers rather than new

dishes. I tried to read Way of the Rishi, and Merlin, and just thought the

writing was insipid and trite. Some people like that. Some people have to pay

through the nose to appreciate anything. Doesn't matter if the diamond is

actually paste just so long as its expensive. Wish that I had such money to

burn. Not that that's important to you or anyone else. It's just my two

pennies. Spirituality of Bling.

-

Mary Ann

Wednesday, May 11, 2005 9:00 AM

Re: Statues of Gurus

Hi: Deepak Chopra recommends listening to the recording of Creating

Affluence on a daily basis (or reading the book, which I have found

does contain a little more material). I think the most effective

technique, or teaching, in addition to making connections between

the Vedas, creativity, and physics, is that he advises NOT

consciously focusing and trying and working hard, but rather,

allowing the information and energy to begin its work in and upon

you. This way, you can become more aware and able to recognize

opportunities for manifestating when the opportunities present

themselves, either from within, or in the world.

A result I notice is that I'm making connections between creativity

and money, not in a terrible, materialistic way, but in recognizing

ways to more fully employ and utilize my gifts and abilities in the

world to help people, creating "win-win" type situations. Amma says

that there is true tragedy in wasting one's gifts, not learning to

use them, something like that. I have definitely been stopped in my

tracks by conflicts, fears, etc. in the past. I guess I'd also say

that the information in Creating Affluence has helped me learn how

not to stay stuck in dead ends, but to keep moving with that flow of

creative energy, even when conflicts and fears do arise.

, "kabbalist1"

<kabbalist1> wrote:

> , "Mary Ann"

> <buttercookie61> wrote:

> > What I have read and heard in Deepak Chopra's teachings (and

that's

> > the closest I've come to the Maharishi's teachings, other than

the

> > high school experience I related earlier) is that money is an

> > energy, and as you say, a symbol, but not a stagnant thing. As

> such,

> > it is possible to enter the current (currency) of that symbol --

> > which also correlates with electromagnetism, energy

force/source,

> > etc. -- and manifest from the place we/God/dess manifest(s) from.

>

> Hi Mary,

> 2 q:

> a. what is the technique that is suggested to do the above

> manifestation?

> b. may I ask if you experienced that process, have you

> managed enter 'that' and create/manifest? or you quote

> from reading?

>

> <snip>

Links

/

b..

c..

May 11, 2005

Deepak plugs TM in Creating Affluence, but he doesn't say that's the

only route; that would be stupid. Yes, some books are better than

others. I have found Creating Affluence helpful, and also, The Seven

Spiritual Laws of Success. Both are very slim volumes with nearly no

ego. BTW who was making blanket moral statements about wealth and

flow except you and Joanna Pollner?

I like this message of yours. For one thing, I'm amazed to hear

where you graduated from!!! I'm sure Deepak and Maharishi aren't for

everyone, but I have only shared here what I consider worthwhile

information. You and other members of this list have mentioned

experiencing a lack of money in your lives - not out of worshipping

money, or because you love green paper (green in U.S. that is), but

because it is needed to take care care of oneself and others in this

world. So, I offered my two cents - actually, what I got for a

penny, plus shipping costs on amazon.com!

, "Eve__69" <eve__69@h...>

wrote:

> This sort of material creation is different from what before was

considered follow the flow of money and see what is important, or

whatever. The Nazis had a lot of wealth, and in fact put an end to

the Depression in Germany, so one can't make moral blanket

statements about wealth or flow at all ever. All that one does have

is their own feelings regarding wealth and the creation thereof.

Wealth is not bad. It just depends how it was made. Pumping toxins

into the enviroment can make wealth. Dealing crack cocaine can make

great wealth. So also money can be made through health providing

and so many other honest and healthy means. yes, this sort of

thinking MA is very good. Money is being made by more people of

spiritual bent now, as all these health and yoga markets show.

>

> Deepak gave the graduation speech at Maharishi International

University the year I graduated there. I always thought of him

primarily as a pundit for the Maharishi. No matter how far he has

come I have heard most of this before in the TMO. My point. I don't

know really. I don't really like him myself. I think he is sort of

on autopilot, and providing others with leftovers rather than new

dishes. I tried to read Way of the Rishi, and Merlin, and just

thought the writing was insipid and trite. Some people like that.

Some people have to pay through the nose to appreciate anything.

Doesn't matter if the diamond is actually paste just so long as its

expensive. Wish that I had such money to burn. Not that that's

important to you or anyone else. It's just my two pennies.

Spirituality of Bling.

>

> -

> Mary Ann

>

> Wednesday, May 11, 2005 9:00 AM

> Re: Statues of Gurus

>

> Hi: Deepak Chopra recommends listening to the recording of

Creating

> Affluence on a daily basis (or reading the book, which I have

found

> does contain a little more material). I think the most effective

> technique, or teaching, in addition to making connections

between

> the Vedas, creativity, and physics, is that he advises NOT

> consciously focusing and trying and working hard, but rather,

> allowing the information and energy to begin its work in and

upon

> you. This way, you can become more aware and able to recognize

> opportunities for manifestating when the opportunities present

> themselves, either from within, or in the world.

>

> A result I notice is that I'm making connections between

creativity

> and money, not in a terrible, materialistic way, but in

recognizing

> ways to more fully employ and utilize my gifts and abilities in

the

> world to help people, creating "win-win" type situations. Amma

says

> that there is true tragedy in wasting one's gifts, not learning

to

> use them, something like that. I have definitely been stopped in

my

> tracks by conflicts, fears, etc. in the past. I guess I'd also

say

> that the information in Creating Affluence has helped me learn

how

> not to stay stuck in dead ends, but to keep moving with that

flow of

> creative energy, even when conflicts and fears do arise.

>

> , "kabbalist1"

> <kabbalist1> wrote:

> > , "Mary Ann"

> > <buttercookie61> wrote:

> > > What I have read and heard in Deepak Chopra's teachings (and

> that's

> > > the closest I've come to the Maharishi's teachings, other

than

> the

> > > high school experience I related earlier) is that money is

an

> > > energy, and as you say, a symbol, but not a stagnant thing.

As

> > such,

> > > it is possible to enter the current (currency) of that

symbol --

> > > which also correlates with electromagnetism, energy

> force/source,

> > > etc. -- and manifest from the place we/God/dess manifest(s)

from.

> >

> > Hi Mary,

> > 2 q:

> > a. what is the technique that is suggested to do the above

> > manifestation?

> > b. may I ask if you experienced that process, have you

> > managed enter 'that' and create/manifest? or you quote

> > from reading?

> >

> > <snip>

>

> -

-----------

> Links

>

> /

>

> b..

>

> c.. Terms

of Service.

>

May 11, 2005

My favorite part of Deepak's "Creating Affluence" book

is the story he tells of the devotee who asks his Guru

how to have the blessings of those squabbling sisters,

Lakshmi (wealth) and Saraswati (knowledge). The Guru

suggests honoring both goddesses, but always giving

Saraswati first place. Lakshmi, miffed at being only

number Two, will therefore throw great wealth at you

to raise your opinion of her. If you are wise, you

will thank her, but keep her as number Two.

Carrie says she loves Lakshmi ("Such a lovely

goddess!"). She distains Saraswati. Which explains,

I think, why she thinks knowledge has no value unless

you paid through the nose for it. As one of her

teachers, I suspect she'd respect me more if I charged

her big bucks to learn Wicca. But I took an oath NOT

to charge money for Wiccan teachings.

-- Len/ Kalipadma

--- Eve__69 <eve__69 wrote:

> Deepak gave the graduation speech at Maharishi

> International University the year I graduated there.

> I always thought of him primarily as a pundit for

> the Maharishi. No matter how far he has come I have

> heard most of this before in the TMO. My point. I

> don't know really. I don't really like him myself. I

> think he is sort of on autopilot, and providing

> others with leftovers rather than new dishes. I

> tried to read Way of the Rishi, and Merlin, and just

> thought the writing was insipid and trite. Some

> people like that. Some people have to pay through

> the nose to appreciate anything. Doesn't matter if

> the diamond is actually paste just so long as its

> expensive. Wish that I had such money to burn. Not

> that that's important to you or anyone else. It's

> just my two pennies. Spirituality of Bling.

>

> -

> Mary Ann

>

> Wednesday, May 11, 2005 9:00 AM

> Re: Statues of Gurus

>

> Hi: Deepak Chopra recommends listening to the

> recording of Creating

> Affluence on a daily basis (or reading the book,

> which I have found

> does contain a little more material).

May 11, 2005

Yeah, being money free makes me a bit overtly hostile when money and religion

are spoken in the same sentence. You're right. I was the most judgemental of

the posters on the subject. Because I am up on what Maharishi is doing nowadays.

It is sort of sickening. And fresh in my mind. Like I said, if you really care

then you need to check in at

FairfieldLife/

-

Mary Ann

Wednesday, May 11, 2005 10:25 AM