Guest guest Report post Posted January 13, 2005 there are hundreds of mantras and any can be used without any guru; like getting into a jet fighter without an insructor and just pulling on all levers and just enjoy what happens. surya vishnubhotla <surya_prakashv wrote: I sometimes wonder about the word Laghu attached to shyamala in laghushyamala ... does anyone know the significance? --- Max Dashu <maxdashu wrote: > Wow, this is such a richness. The Shyamala > connection makes total > sense. I'm still reading... Thank you. > > > >page on Mathangi, which is here: > > > <http://www.shaktisadhana.org/DEVI/maatangi.html>http://www.shaktisadhana.org/DE\ VI/maatangi.html > > -- > Max Dashu > Suppressed Histories Archives > Global Women's History > http://www.suppressedhistories.net > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. http://info.mail./mail_250 / The all-new My – What will yours do? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 14, 2005 this bath tub must be really good Devi Bhakta <devi_bhakta wrote: Hi Surya: The bija of all forms of Maatangi is identical to that of Saraswati, that is to say, aiM. That is more than enough for anyone to find Her, if they are serious and attentive. The non-secret multi-syllable mantras are easily obtainable in various books about Hindu Tantra and even online, and I see no need to repeat them here. You must know that everyone who's ever picked up a book by Harish Johari is an expert in these things? ;-) The more secret mantras are not shared outside the lineages. But Bhasurananda recently told me something *extremely* interesting in that connection, which I'll share this excerpt for those who are interested in such matters. BN: ALL mantras are equally powerful. DB: No matter how secret or how widely known? It can't be so. BN: It IS so. The secrecy has only a psychological effect. In fact, I had a revelation recently that no mantras are required, and no poojas. DB: Then what *is* needed? BN: Just visualisation. It is the visualisation that's important. DB: It's hard to fathom that. I need to think about it. BN: All this came to me in the bathtub the other day! And a lot more that I am still trying to digest! DB: But every mantra has its own devi or deva. And they are not all equal. BN: Each deals with a different level of the psyche. But at a certain level they are all IT. That's why it is said that once you get siddhi in one mantra you have siddhi in all mantras. DB: Yes, at some high level. It is very conceptual. Useful perhaps to only the most advanced sadhakas? BN: I don't know about that. Let me sleep on it. It was a powerful experience, a rare event. Normally I get no such experiences. DB: I wonder what triggered it? BN: No idea. It just came. I don't know what triggered it. I will sleep on it. [FINIS] , surya vishnubhotla <surya_prakashv> wrote: > > just to exchange notes .. what is the mantra that you > know of? > > --- Devi Bhakta <devi_bhakta> wrote: > > > > > I believe this is true. > > > > , surya > > vishnubhotla > > <surya_prakashv> wrote: > > > > > > I was in the impression that at least one matangi > > > mantra (for her form as laghu shyamala devi dosent > > > need initiation or rules) .. / All your favorites on one personal page – Try My Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 15, 2005 Hello, My concept is that mantras are necessary till u need a stage when u no longer need their support to move onwards .. The Laghu shayamala mantra goes: "Aim namaha ucchista chandali matangi sarva (or sarvajana) vasam kari swaha" before doing this mantra u read the following mantra once : "Manikyaveena mupalayantim madalasaam manjula vak vilasam mahendra neeladyuti komalangim matanga kanyam manasa smarami" The godess is dark bule hued and visualization of her helps ! Visualization has a different importance altogether .... but mantras cannot be substituted only by visualization? .. Thanks for ur time --- Devi Bhakta <devi_bhakta wrote: > > Hi Surya: > > The bija of all forms of Maatangi is identical to > that of Saraswati, > that is to say, aiM. That is more than enough for > anyone to find > Her, if they are serious and attentive. > > The non-secret multi-syllable mantras are easily > obtainable in > various books about Hindu Tantra and even online, > and I see no need > to repeat them here. You must know that everyone > who's ever picked > up a book by Harish Johari is an expert in these > things? ;-) > > The more secret mantras are not shared outside the > lineages. But > Bhasurananda recently told me something *extremely* > interesting in > that connection, which I'll share this excerpt for > those who are > interested in such matters. > > BN: ALL mantras are equally powerful. > > DB: No matter how secret or how widely known? It > can't be so. > > BN: It IS so. The secrecy has only a psychological > effect. In fact, > I had a revelation recently that no mantras are > required, and no > poojas. > > DB: Then what *is* needed? > > BN: Just visualisation. It is the visualisation > that's important. > > DB: It's hard to fathom that. I need to think about > it. > > BN: All this came to me in the bathtub the other > day! And a lot more > that I am still trying to digest! > > DB: But every mantra has its own devi or deva. And > they are not all > equal. > > BN: Each deals with a different level of the psyche. > But at a > certain level they are all IT. That's why it is said > that once you > get siddhi in one mantra you have siddhi in all > mantras. > > DB: Yes, at some high level. It is very conceptual. > Useful perhaps > to only the most advanced sadhakas? > > BN: I don't know about that. Let me sleep on it. It > was a powerful > experience, a rare event. Normally I get no such > experiences. > > DB: I wonder what triggered it? > > BN: No idea. It just came. I don't know what > triggered it. I will > sleep on it. > > [FINIS] > > , surya > vishnubhotla > <surya_prakashv> wrote: > > > > just to exchange notes .. what is the mantra that > you > > know of? > > > > --- Devi Bhakta <devi_bhakta> wrote: > > > > > > > > I believe this is true. > > > > > > , surya > > > vishnubhotla > > > <surya_prakashv> wrote: > > > > > > > > I was in the impression that at least one > matangi > > > > mantra (for her form as laghu shyamala devi > dosent > > > > need initiation or rules) .. > > > > > Take Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile./maildemo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 15, 2005 Hello..... Please pardon me for my ignorance in this matter,although I am a member of this club and mot quite knowlegeble ,I would like to know what the word "Matangi" means. Thanks. Warm regards. Chumki. , surya vishnubhotla <surya_prakashv> wrote: > > Hello, > > > My concept is that mantras are necessary till u need a > stage when u no longer need their support to move > onwards .. > > The Laghu shayamala mantra goes: > "Aim namaha ucchista chandali matangi sarva (or > sarvajana) vasam kari swaha" > > before doing this mantra u read the following mantra > once : > "Manikyaveena mupalayantim madalasaam manjula vak > vilasam mahendra neeladyuti komalangim matanga kanyam > manasa smarami" > > The godess is dark bule hued and visualization of her > helps ! > > Visualization has a different importance altogether > ... but mantras cannot be substituted only by > visualization? .. > > Thanks for ur time > > --- Devi Bhakta <devi_bhakta> wrote: > > > > > Hi Surya: > > > > The bija of all forms of Maatangi is identical to > > that of Saraswati, > > that is to say, aiM. That is more than enough for > > anyone to find > > Her, if they are serious and attentive. > > > > The non-secret multi-syllable mantras are easily > > obtainable in > > various books about Hindu Tantra and even online, > > and I see no need > > to repeat them here. You must know that everyone > > who's ever picked > > up a book by Harish Johari is an expert in these > > things? ;-) > > > > The more secret mantras are not shared outside the > > lineages. But > > Bhasurananda recently told me something *extremely* > > interesting in > > that connection, which I'll share this excerpt for > > those who are > > interested in such matters. > > > > BN: ALL mantras are equally powerful. > > > > DB: No matter how secret or how widely known? It > > can't be so. > > > > BN: It IS so. The secrecy has only a psychological > > effect. In fact, > > I had a revelation recently that no mantras are > > required, and no > > poojas. > > > > DB: Then what *is* needed? > > > > BN: Just visualisation. It is the visualisation > > that's important. > > > > DB: It's hard to fathom that. I need to think about > > it. > > > > BN: All this came to me in the bathtub the other > > day! And a lot more > > that I am still trying to digest! > > > > DB: But every mantra has its own devi or deva. And > > they are not all > > equal. > > > > BN: Each deals with a different level of the psyche. > > But at a > > certain level they are all IT. That's why it is said > > that once you > > get siddhi in one mantra you have siddhi in all > > mantras. > > > > DB: Yes, at some high level. It is very conceptual. > > Useful perhaps > > to only the most advanced sadhakas? > > > > BN: I don't know about that. Let me sleep on it. It > > was a powerful > > experience, a rare event. Normally I get no such > > experiences. > > > > DB: I wonder what triggered it? > > > > BN: No idea. It just came. I don't know what > > triggered it. I will > > sleep on it. > > > > [FINIS] > > > > , surya > > vishnubhotla > > <surya_prakashv> wrote: > > > > > > just to exchange notes .. what is the mantra that > > you > > > know of? > > > > > > --- Devi Bhakta <devi_bhakta> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I believe this is true. > > > > > > > > , surya > > > > vishnubhotla > > > > <surya_prakashv> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I was in the impression that at least one > > matangi > > > > > mantra (for her form as laghu shyamala devi > > dosent > > > > > need initiation or rules) .. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Take Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. > http://mobile./maildemo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 15, 2005 yes visualisation is the most important thing; it can substitute for the mantra IMHO surya vishnubhotla <surya_prakashv wrote: Hello, My concept is that mantras are necessary till u need a stage when u no longer need their support to move onwards .. The Laghu shayamala mantra goes: "Aim namaha ucchista chandali matangi sarva (or sarvajana) vasam kari swaha" before doing this mantra u read the following mantra once : "Manikyaveena mupalayantim madalasaam manjula vak vilasam mahendra neeladyuti komalangim matanga kanyam manasa smarami" The godess is dark bule hued and visualization of her helps ! Visualization has a different importance altogether .... but mantras cannot be substituted only by visualization? .. Thanks for ur time --- Devi Bhakta <devi_bhakta wrote: > > Hi Surya: > > The bija of all forms of Maatangi is identical to > that of Saraswati, > that is to say, aiM. That is more than enough for > anyone to find > Her, if they are serious and attentive. > > The non-secret multi-syllable mantras are easily > obtainable in > various books about Hindu Tantra and even online, > and I see no need > to repeat them here. You must know that everyone > who's ever picked > up a book by Harish Johari is an expert in these > things? ;-) > > The more secret mantras are not shared outside the > lineages. But > Bhasurananda recently told me something *extremely* > interesting in > that connection, which I'll share this excerpt for > those who are > interested in such matters. > > BN: ALL mantras are equally powerful. > > DB: No matter how secret or how widely known? It > can't be so. > > BN: It IS so. The secrecy has only a psychological > effect. In fact, > I had a revelation recently that no mantras are > required, and no > poojas. > > DB: Then what *is* needed? > > BN: Just visualisation. It is the visualisation > that's important. > > DB: It's hard to fathom that. I need to think about > it. > > BN: All this came to me in the bathtub the other > day! And a lot more > that I am still trying to digest! > > DB: But every mantra has its own devi or deva. And > they are not all > equal. > > BN: Each deals with a different level of the psyche. > But at a > certain level they are all IT. That's why it is said > that once you > get siddhi in one mantra you have siddhi in all > mantras. > > DB: Yes, at some high level. It is very conceptual. > Useful perhaps > to only the most advanced sadhakas? > > BN: I don't know about that. Let me sleep on it. It > was a powerful > experience, a rare event. Normally I get no such > experiences. > > DB: I wonder what triggered it? > > BN: No idea. It just came. I don't know what > triggered it. I will > sleep on it. > > [FINIS] > > , surya > vishnubhotla > <surya_prakashv> wrote: > > > > just to exchange notes .. what is the mantra that > you > > know of? > > > > --- Devi Bhakta <devi_bhakta> wrote: > > > > > > > > I believe this is true. > > > > > > , surya > > > vishnubhotla > > > <surya_prakashv> wrote: > > > > > > > > I was in the impression that at least one > matangi > > > > mantra (for her form as laghu shyamala devi > dosent > > > > need initiation or rules) .. > > > > > Take Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile./maildemo / Read only the mail you want - Mail SpamGuard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 16, 2005 Hello, Elaborate articles have been posted on shakti sadhana earlier on devi matangi .. they are quite wonderful and informative to read please take some time off to visit the same ! --- Chumki Basu <blueblackeyes wrote: > > > Hello..... > Please pardon me for my ignorance in this > matter,although I am a > member of this club and mot quite knowlegeble ,I > would like to know > what the word "Matangi" means. > > Thanks. > > Warm regards. > > Chumki. > > > > > , surya > vishnubhotla > <surya_prakashv> wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > > > My concept is that mantras are necessary till u > need a > > stage when u no longer need their support to move > > onwards .. > > > > The Laghu shayamala mantra goes: > > "Aim namaha ucchista chandali matangi sarva (or > > sarvajana) vasam kari swaha" > > > > before doing this mantra u read the following > mantra > > once : > > "Manikyaveena mupalayantim madalasaam manjula vak > > vilasam mahendra neeladyuti komalangim matanga > kanyam > > manasa smarami" > > > > The godess is dark bule hued and visualization of > her > > helps ! > > > > Visualization has a different importance > altogether > > ... but mantras cannot be substituted only by > > visualization? .. > > > > Thanks for ur time > > > > --- Devi Bhakta <devi_bhakta> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Surya: > > > > > > The bija of all forms of Maatangi is identical > to > > > that of Saraswati, > > > that is to say, aiM. That is more than enough > for > > > anyone to find > > > Her, if they are serious and attentive. > > > > > > The non-secret multi-syllable mantras are easily > > > obtainable in > > > various books about Hindu Tantra and even > online, > > > and I see no need > > > to repeat them here. You must know that everyone > > > who's ever picked > > > up a book by Harish Johari is an expert in these > > > things? ;-) > > > > > > The more secret mantras are not shared outside > the > > > lineages. But > > > Bhasurananda recently told me something > *extremely* > > > interesting in > > > that connection, which I'll share this excerpt > for > > > those who are > > > interested in such matters. > > > > > > BN: ALL mantras are equally powerful. > > > > > > DB: No matter how secret or how widely known? It > > > can't be so. > > > > > > BN: It IS so. The secrecy has only a > psychological > > > effect. In fact, > > > I had a revelation recently that no mantras are > > > required, and no > > > poojas. > > > > > > DB: Then what *is* needed? > > > > > > BN: Just visualisation. It is the visualisation > > > that's important. > > > > > > DB: It's hard to fathom that. I need to think > about > > > it. > > > > > > BN: All this came to me in the bathtub the other > > > day! And a lot more > > > that I am still trying to digest! > > > > > > DB: But every mantra has its own devi or deva. > And > > > they are not all > > > equal. > > > > > > BN: Each deals with a different level of the > psyche. > > > But at a > > > certain level they are all IT. That's why it is > said > > > that once you > > > get siddhi in one mantra you have siddhi in all > > > mantras. > > > > > > DB: Yes, at some high level. It is very > conceptual. > > > Useful perhaps > > > to only the most advanced sadhakas? > > > > > > BN: I don't know about that. Let me sleep on it. > It > > > was a powerful > > > experience, a rare event. Normally I get no such > > > experiences. > > > > > > DB: I wonder what triggered it? > > > > > > BN: No idea. It just came. I don't know what > > > triggered it. I will > > > sleep on it. > > > > > > [FINIS] > > > > > > , surya > > > vishnubhotla > > > <surya_prakashv> wrote: > > > > > > > > just to exchange notes .. what is the mantra > that > > > you > > > > know of? > > > > > > > > --- Devi Bhakta <devi_bhakta> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I believe this is true. > > > > > > > > > > , surya > > > > > vishnubhotla > > > > > <surya_prakashv> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I was in the impression that at least one > > > matangi > > > > > > mantra (for her form as laghu shyamala > devi > > > dosent > > > > > > need initiation or rules) .. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Take Mail with you! Get it on your mobile > phone. > > http://mobile./maildemo > > > > Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. http://info.mail./mail_250 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 16, 2005 Hello, I feel visualization can enhance the power of the mantra but it cannot substitute it ... I think we can reach a good understanding only when we examine the relative roles and processes of these two tools .. I will be glad to know how you look at these aspects ! --- sankara menon <kochu1tz wrote: > yes visualisation is the most important thing; it > can substitute for the mantra IMHO > > surya vishnubhotla <surya_prakashv wrote: > Hello, > > > My concept is that mantras are necessary till u need > a > stage when u no longer need their support to move > onwards .. > > The Laghu shayamala mantra goes: > "Aim namaha ucchista chandali matangi sarva (or > sarvajana) vasam kari swaha" > > before doing this mantra u read the following mantra > once : > "Manikyaveena mupalayantim madalasaam manjula vak > vilasam mahendra neeladyuti komalangim matanga > kanyam > manasa smarami" > > The godess is dark bule hued and visualization of > her > helps ! > > Visualization has a different importance altogether > ... but mantras cannot be substituted only by > visualization? .. > > Thanks for ur time > > --- Devi Bhakta <devi_bhakta wrote: > > > > > Hi Surya: > > > > The bija of all forms of Maatangi is identical to > > that of Saraswati, > > that is to say, aiM. That is more than enough for > > anyone to find > > Her, if they are serious and attentive. > > > > The non-secret multi-syllable mantras are easily > > obtainable in > > various books about Hindu Tantra and even online, > > and I see no need > > to repeat them here. You must know that everyone > > who's ever picked > > up a book by Harish Johari is an expert in these > > things? ;-) > > > > The more secret mantras are not shared outside the > > lineages. But > > Bhasurananda recently told me something > *extremely* > > interesting in > > that connection, which I'll share this excerpt for > > those who are > > interested in such matters. > > > > BN: ALL mantras are equally powerful. > > > > DB: No matter how secret or how widely known? It > > can't be so. > > > > BN: It IS so. The secrecy has only a psychological > > effect. In fact, > > I had a revelation recently that no mantras are > > required, and no > > poojas. > > > > DB: Then what *is* needed? > > > > BN: Just visualisation. It is the visualisation > > that's important. > > > > DB: It's hard to fathom that. I need to think > about > > it. > > > > BN: All this came to me in the bathtub the other > > day! And a lot more > > that I am still trying to digest! > > > > DB: But every mantra has its own devi or deva. And > > they are not all > > equal. > > > > BN: Each deals with a different level of the > psyche. > > But at a > > certain level they are all IT. That's why it is > said > > that once you > > get siddhi in one mantra you have siddhi in all > > mantras. > > > > DB: Yes, at some high level. It is very > conceptual. > > Useful perhaps > > to only the most advanced sadhakas? > > > > BN: I don't know about that. Let me sleep on it. > It > > was a powerful > > experience, a rare event. Normally I get no such > > experiences. > > > > DB: I wonder what triggered it? > > > > BN: No idea. It just came. I don't know what > > triggered it. I will > > sleep on it. > > > > [FINIS] > > > > , surya > > vishnubhotla > > <surya_prakashv> wrote: > > > > > > just to exchange notes .. what is the mantra > that > > you > > > know of? > > > > > > --- Devi Bhakta <devi_bhakta> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I believe this is true. > > > > > > > > , surya > > > > vishnubhotla > > > > <surya_prakashv> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I was in the impression that at least one > > matangi > > > > > mantra (for her form as laghu shyamala devi > > dosent > > > > > need initiation or rules) .. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Take Mail with you! Get it on your mobile > phone. > http://mobile./maildemo > > > > > > > Links > > > / > > > > > Your use of is subject to the > > > > > > > > Read only the mail you want - Mail > SpamGuard. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 17, 2005 , surya vishnubhotla <surya_prakashv> wrote: > > Hello, > > Elaborate articles have been posted on shakti sadhana > earlier on devi matangi .. they are quite wonderful > and informative to read please take some time off to > visit the same ! > Thank you Surya, I have communicate this with Chumki personally over the chat line and she have seen the site. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 22, 2005 Here is what little knowledge I have about Devi Matangi. Matangi is the Dark One, a form of Saraswati, incarnated as the daughter of Matang Rishi. He was from the lowest caste known as Chandal, but did not believe in the orthodox caste system and wanted to achieve brahminhood through his karma. Through worship of first Indra and then Saraswati, she became his daughter and was unequaled in her intellect (mati). Thus Matang Rishi gained a reputation to which only brahmins were entitled. Matangi is one of the ten Mahavidyas - the others are Kali, Tara Shodashi, Bhuvaneshwari, Bhairavi, Chinnamasta, Kamala, Dhumavati and Bagla Mukhi. The Mahavidyas represent some or other incarnation or manifestation of the Divine Mother. They are in this sense also to be regarded as Vidyas or different approaches to knowledge. I am sure you know this. Matangi resides in the throat chakra and is radiant like the Moon. Matangi is an adviser of Tripur Sundari and het worship leads the aspirant to Tripur Sundari. Matangi is invoked to achieve command over speech, creativity and knowledge, among others. The Ma Matangi Beeja Manta is: Om Hreem Sreem Vada-vadh Vaag Vaadinee Saraswati Mama Vidya Prasadam Kuru Do Swaha! You can recite this 11, 22, 33 or 101 times every day. J Chatterjeekleeblatt_999 <kleeblatt_999 (AT) (DOT) de> wrote: Hi, I'm new to this group, I worship Matangi because it is said that everyone can worship her without having initiation (what is always necessary for every other goddess). When someone has helpful info on Matangi worship/Sadhana or knows an English translation of her dhyana sloka, PLEASE let me know. Greetings, Karin OM Jay Matangi, may I gain knowledge Gesendet von Mail - Jetzt mit 250MB kostenlosem Speicher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 23, 2005 Hi Karin, I strongly suggest you to post the same message in the group: / devi_bhakta (ID) in that group is an upaska of Matangi, he would definitely help you regarding your post. May Devi bless you in your sadhana, Sai. Kali_Ma, kleeblatt_999 <kleeblatt_999> wrote: > Hi, > I'm new to this group, I worship Matangi because it is said that everyone can worship her without having initiation (what is always necessary for every other goddess). When someone has helpful info on Matangi worship/Sadhana or knows an English translation of her dhyana sloka, PLEASE let me know. > Greetings, > Karin > OM Jay Matangi, may I gain knowledge > > > > Gesendet von Mail - Jetzt mit 250MB kostenlosem Speicher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 28, 2005 I'v never heard you have to do that in order to prayt to a specific part of Shakti. What i know is that there is ONE MOTHER name SHAKTI and Matangi which is one of her forms. Anybody can worship Mother in any form you please to do. She comes in different names, forms, colors, but yet She is still ONE. -Lawrence Kali_Ma, kleeblatt_999 <kleeblatt_999> wrote: > Hi, > I'm new to this group, I worship Matangi because it is said that everyone can worship her without having initiation (what is always necessary for every other goddess). When someone has helpful info on Matangi worship/Sadhana or knows an English translation of her dhyana sloka, PLEASE let me know. > Greetings, > Karin > OM Jay Matangi, may I gain knowledge > > > > Gesendet von Mail - Jetzt mit 250MB kostenlosem Speicher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 19, 2005 93, greetings, Karin. As other members of this group wrote in reply to U, DEVI is ONE. The ultimate worship of Her is pure Love. It doesn't require initiation in the sense of a ritual, human guru and knowledge of sanskrit. But this is correct when Parashakti is worshipped, the Ultimate Divine. I strongly recommend U not to go into any particular aspect worship, especially such "left side" deities as Matangini. For this reason i won't provide dhyanas etc. Upasana of Matangi requires diksha. Tantric way is only possible in Kula, with kula-guru and bhairava. Thus, forget this kind of practices for now. U cannot choose Kula-marga, it is always SHE who chooses. Follow Ur heart in Love... Pray to Her, give Urself to Her... And She will guide U further. Love is the law, love under will. Blessings, Arjunanandanatha. Kali_Ma, kleeblatt_999 <kleeblatt_999> wrote: > Hi, > I'm new to this group, I worship Matangi because it is said that everyone can worship her without having initiation (what is always necessary for every other goddess). When someone has helpful info on Matangi worship/Sadhana or knows an English translation of her dhyana sloka, PLEASE let me know. > Greetings, > Karin > OM Jay Matangi, may I gain knowledge Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 20, 2005 Hails to the mail of Sri Arjunananda natha. Pure love doesnot require any initiation or ritual. It is She, The Mother ordains and blesses us and shows with a Guru, the Teacher. She knows which kind of worship or Path is suitable to me, Her child, and she blesses me with that knowledge only. Divine Discontent and passion for Knowledge would automatically draw one to his goal. I am a standing resemblance for the same. At the Lotus Feet of Guru, Samvidaananda Saktha, Saravana KumarArjuna Taradasa <saidevi55 > wrote: 93, greetings, Karin.As other members of this group wrote in reply to U, DEVI is ONE.The ultimate worship of Her is pure Love. It doesn't requireinitiation in the sense of a ritual, human guru and knowledge of sanskrit.But this is correct when Parashakti is worshipped, the Ultimate Divine.I strongly recommend U not to go into any particular aspect worship,especially such "left side" deities as Matangini.For this reason i won't provide dhyanas etc. Upasana of Matangirequires diksha.Tantric way is only possible in Kula, with kula-guru and bhairava.Thus, forget this kind of practices for now. U cannot chooseKula-marga, it is always SHE who chooses.Follow Ur heart in Love... Pray to Her, give Urself to Her...And She will guide U further.Love is the law, love under will.Blessings,Arjunanandanatha.Kali_Ma, kleeblatt_999 wrote:> Hi,> I'm new to this group, I worship Matangi because it is said thateveryone can worship her without having initiation (what is alwaysnecessary for every other goddess). When someone has helpful info onMatangi worship/Sadhana or knows an English translation of her dhyanasloka, PLEASE let me know.> Greetings,> Karin> OM Jay Matangi, may I gain knowledge------------------------ Sponsor --------------------~--> Would you Help a Child in need?It is easier than you think.Click Here to meet a Child you can help.http://us.click./0Z9NuA/I_qJAA/i1hLAA/CSdplB/TM--~-> Links<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:Kali_Ma/<*> To from this group, send an email to:Kali_Ma<*> Your use of Groups is subject to:Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
