maram

dear viji, appreciate your polite reply...but u seem to have missed my point in the discussion. i understand how the mantra was coined but my question is this...why must it be Narayan who is the "Ultimate Supreme Personality of Godhead", what i see in your belief is simply words spoken by masters of the vaishnava principle. you can quote hundred of scriptures...but my question is...why only this path...as claimed by your belief...dear viji, you speak of kaliyuga...do you know, kaliyuga appears in every man's life...that the day when your senses loses its balance...the day when your muscles loses its grip...the day when your mind is unable to will its thoughts...that,that day...kaliyuga reigns. ...and the reason why Narayana is essential in this period is simply because he is the symbol of our heart...that Narayan(heart) lying(anantha sayanam) on Adhishesha(arteries&veins)...with the aorta(Goddess Laksmi) is the last effort that can keep this body in a functional mode. I fully to the fact that He Narayana is essential...but please remember...as much as the heart is needed to sustain life...so is the intestines,kidney,bladder,lungs...etc...and if you think the heart is the most important organ in the body...that Lord Narayana is the sum of the wholeness...please look into the intestines...they are more powerful than all the other, even more powerful than the heart heart...so important...that they can shake the very balance in our bio-rhythmic state. Brother viji, ive got to go...take care and we will meet again...bye

i will like to thank in appreciation for the care showered by viji and melvin...it feels good to know there are people out there who truly care...but what saddened me was...words that were spoken by this two people were more acquired in context. it is a belief that Hare Krishna mantra is THE MAHA MANTRA...i dont deny its greatness...but that doesnt make it THE MOST...or rather the ultimate mantra...there are equally great mantras...and great masters from various sects have in their time mentioned theirs to be the greatest...ego has always played its role well, even among our mystics...but i remember reading the gita which states that the soul wthin every body is the same...if that be true than all sound must be equally sound...SA is equally as important as GA...calling a mantra as MAHA MANTRA just because Caitanya Mahaprabu said so doesnt make others lesser...it was his experience...and its fair for devotees of his teaching to belief so...but annoiting it as the ultimate is a bit too bias...we had great masters...even before his time...even later perhaps...one man cannot define the ultimate...he might be right in someway...but following everyword blindly only makes the followers blind...im sure mahaprabu exemplified his life to show man the path towards bhakti yoga...not define a system...each man is an ocean...where lord brahma/vishnu/shiva/ resides...please...there is such a phase known as evolution...it is here to stay...dont define and limit its potency by just acquired thoughts....aum hariharaya namaha....

it took a heart attack to realise that ultimate verse. Daily walks in the park, first to keep me alive...has now given me a new lease of life...a life that is lead thru least-effort. no tree pushes itself to perform...we never inhale more air than the needed...thousands of capilaries...all dutifully responding to prescribed duties...with least effort.

from my little research on the shivalinga...using numeral configuration, i have come to realise that that shivalinga is actually the symbol of an atom's expansion and the lengthy protruding arm is the path from which vibration can leave to create frictions to start up a creative momentum. u r right it is the relationship of opposites...two points...A(Paramathma).......and B(Jiwathma)