Mountain Warrior

Hi! The statue is of Vajrayogini. Her tantra is perhaps the most powerful tantric pratice in the Vajrayana school of Buddhism from Tibet. Hope this helps. MW

I read the comments made by Swami Ram a number of years ago. It was in many ways a faith killer at first, but as exprience has shown his words were not true, at least to me. I think that Pujari 5-O's assessment is the most correct. The article he wrote is further wrought with errors. Kal Bhairo is not from Africa (like I needed to point this out) and seems to have Santeria confused as it is a way of faith, not a person or being. Although there are many similarities with Kali Church, there are also many things that are different (given its combination of African and Spanish cultures). Go to orishanet.org (type in www first, I cant post url yet) Alot of the basics (ie trance, offerings ect) seem to be very similair. In an interesting aside, I read somewhere someone else's comment on this matter a few years ago (I cannot remember where). This person indicated that a spirit may have "assumed" the identity of Kal Bhairo and caused those problems he spoke about. I have heard this from Tibetan Buddhists as well given their long history in dealing with spirits bent on causing mayhem.

Hi everyone, I was wondering if anyone could help me out with some questions that I have regarding aspect of worship in the West Indies. My first questionis thus: In Mariamman and Munishwar temples in India and Malay, Murugan is usually one of dieties worshiped. In the West Indies I have not even heard him mentioned and most think that he is Lord Siva's daughter, not his son. Most people just stare blankly when his name is mentioned. Are there any ideas as to why he was left out of the temples? It is quite a shame if I might add my view as he plays such an important role within the context of the universe and the teachings the tradition embodies is very pratical and rich. Second: in a previous post Pajarie and myself talked about a Kal Bhairo picture from Tamil Nadu. He is one the horse and is in the series with Kateri Ma, Sanganie and Muneespreng. Upon closer inspection Kal Bhairo wears the mark of Vishnu on his forhead, not Siva's as per other pictures (not to mention that Kal Bhairav is from the Saivite tradition). Any ideas to this over sight, or is this a way of showing that the Divine is in all traditions? Or an oversight of the artist?

Just a quick message to all wising a happy new year. May all the pain and sufferment be washed away by the loving Mother leading to a fresh start for 2008. Let not yesterdays problems become today's problems. The Ganga is always flowing and all we have to do is choose to swim in her purity, freshness and healing energy.

Dear Pujari (and all viewers), The Tirumantriam is Tamil Tantra and is from the Saivite tradition. It describes all the energies of Shakti, mantras along with other interesting information including the different types of Yoga. It has one of the best descriptions of the union of Siva and Shakti that I have encountered. Ber in mind that one needs a Guru to grasp the full content of the text. With a background in kali work it will still make sense. Kaal Bhairava also has a small part of a chapter dedicated towards him. I have a copy with the Tamil and English translations. I need a few more posts then I can send a link. I have also included a picture of another form of Muneswarar. [ATTACH]1536[/ATTACH]

Pujarie, Thank you for the posting of the picture. I have Kal Bhairo sitting on the horse in the same artistic style of the Master Sanganie, Kateri Ma and Muni Spreng pictures. Not the one with him and Devi on the horse together. I had a feeling they came from India, they have a sort of unearthly feel to them....... I saw a website for a Temple in Malay that totally blew my mind...It has Hindu deities similar to Kali Temple, Buddhist deities, Taoist deities and even Jesus and Mary. I cannot remember the site but if I can retrace my steps I will post it. Have you read the Tirumantrium or heard of it?

dont be so naive ( no disrespect) an incarnation can have different names because of the difference in language but will still only be one This is a very good point. Most people only see the forms from their culture or region and believe this to be the only form. If you look at the forms of Mother Kali in India it is quite diverse and she is even the Protector of the Dalai Lama in the form of Palden Lahmo. Despite the variations of form, her nature remains the same. I actually like the Shinto way of representing the Gods; by using calligraphy of the name so the mind is not fixated upon the form. People get so caught up on pictures that they actually limit how the power of divinity can work in thier life and are unable to exprience the full vastness of God. Shakti: this is such a vast word that you know not even the size of a mustard grain is the amount of shakti that comes on the children so when you do not do the proper things in life and follow the rules the result is what you get imposters. Words can never describe the power of Shakti, only exprience. i have a picture like that in meh temple hehe you have the one with Kateri on the horse and Sangilli with the big sword got them from omars in south Are you able (or willing?) to post a clear and complete picture of Munishswaran as posted in the previous post? I have Kal Bhairo in this form, I love the picture. Do you know who drew those series of pictures?

Dear Pujarie, I dont feel that I can comment on any form of worship as I myself have little understanding of these things. Some things if they dont feel right are most likely not right. It has always seemed to me that all Devas want you to use your brain to solve things and not blindly follow the pack headlong into ignorance. Faith and the mind must be in accord. Upon investigation I have noticed that many pictures of the Gods in the West Indies are not correct, especially with Kateri Ma. For example pictures of Sri Krishna and Bali are often "thought" to be her. Telling people this provokes quite the defensive response. Your comment about the West Indians and Tamils in East Asia speaking are opening many doors is correct on many levels. It might have the effect however of tearing down ones faith as a new way could seem very threatening to previously held beliefs. But this is the information age and is truly a double edged sword. God Bless.

Your knowledge of this area is impressive and has in many accounts confirmed suspicions that I have had for some time. I am grateful that there is someone who is willing to break ranks with “conventional” acceptance of Kali work and peruse the truth of the matter. On this note I need to ask some questions pertaining to Munispreng. I have been told that he is the Moon God and a Landmaster among other things. The more I look at him it is clear that he is Munishwaran, and quite clearly a very powerful form. I have studied the stories from Tamil areas in India and Malay and see the connections in numerous areas. My question is do you know how this form became the accepted form in the West Indies and what is the symbolism of the crescent moon and sun on his hands that you have encountered. I have my ideas based on some experience and believe these to have an “esoteric” meaning regarding the mind, very similar to Buddhist art forms with the sun and the crescent (sometimes full) moon, which is an expression of powers of the mind and spirit. Also, there is a picture of Kaal Bhairo on a horse that has a very mezmorizing affect on the mind. Do you know where this picture and the others like it (there are ones for Master Sanganie, Master Munispreng and Kateri Ma) came from? Thanks in advance.