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SDdasa, what is your view of Padma Purana Uttara-khanda 193.3

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somewhat related: http://www.indiadivine.org/bhaktivedanta-swami-prabhupada1.htm In the Pratisarga part of the Bhavisya Purana, Chapter 20 verses 71-73; we find the following prediction: "Lord Jagannath, the Supreme Lord Sri Hari Himself, spoke these attractive words for the welfare of all: <font color="brown"> The mlecchas who are born from mixed countries ruled by descendants of Kashyapa (demons) and the shudras will become brahmanas by initiation.</font color> They will wear shikhas and brahmana threads and will become well versed in the uncontaminated fruit of the Vedas (Srimad Bhagavatam). They will worship Me by the Yajna prescribed by the Lord of Lords, the protector of Sachi (Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu)."

perhaps refering to the end of the ice age? according to http://encyclopediaofauthentichinduism.org/articles/12_early_civilizations.htm As a natural process of renovation of world civilizations, ice ages come. Blanketing most of the Southern and Northern Hemispheres of the earth planet with trillions of tons of ice for millions of years they bury and destroy all the civilizations in its area. It stretches up to the major parts of Europe including England. Its spine chilling below freezing winds shoot cold waves all over the continent which shatters the rest of the civilizations. India is not much affected by the ice ages because it is in the tropical zone and the range of the Himalayan hills protects it from the cold winds of the deep North. So its ancient civilization continues without interruption. The last ice age receded around 10,000 years ago. It took some time to develop the normal conditions of living. The survivors of the ice age were small groups of people who were living a nomadic life. They spread all over the southern parts of Europe and the middle parts of Asia, the Gulf countries, some parts of North America, South America and Africa...

perhaps refering to the end of the ice age? according to http://encyclopediaofauthentichinduism.org/articles/12_early_civilizations.htm As a natural process of renovation of world civilizations, ice ages come. Blanketing most of the Southern and Northern Hemispheres of the earth planet with trillions of tons of ice for millions of years they bury and destroy all the civilizations in its area. It stretches up to the major parts of Europe including England. Its spine chilling below freezing winds shoot cold waves all over the continent which shatters the rest of the civilizations. India is not much affected by the ice ages because it is in the tropical zone and the range of the Himalayan hills protects it from the cold winds of the deep North. So its ancient civilization continues without interruption. The last ice age receded around 10,000 years ago. It took some time to develop the normal conditions of living. The survivors of the ice age were small groups of people who were living a nomadic life. They spread all over the southern parts of Europe and the middle parts of Asia, the Gulf countries, some parts of North America, South America and Africa...

lecture sb 3.25.9 bombay 11-9-74 Prahupada:...The Christian conception of God as Father is not so perfect. Because if we conceive God as Father and Mother, then the policy is to take from Him. Because everyone wants to take from the father: “Father, give me that. Mother, give me that.”... letter to rupanuga san francisco 3-12-68 Prabhupada:...In the spiritual world there is no such relationship as God as the father. In the material world such conception is appreciated very much. In the material world everyone wants to take from God because the conditioned soul wants to enjoy senses. And the concept of fatherhood is to drag resources from the Supreme. But in the spiritual world there is no question of drawing from the Supreme... http://mandala.com.au/sermons1/introduction.htm Sridhara Maharaja:...In the conception of God as father, we are what we are and He is supplying our food, home, and necessities in this plane. But if we truly approach Him, neglecting our wealth and achievements in this world to make a genuine heart's approach - not merely a formal approach - an exclusive approach - we shall discover what He is, as He is, and not as He is needed by us <font color="brown"> in our fallen stage </font color> ...

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yogi bhajan lecture archive http://www.sikhnet.com/sikhnet/articles.nsf/9dee2aa6164e1d9b87256671004e06c7/628ace0771cb4e9d87256671004e4684 yogi bhajan: When I become zero, the One comes to my aid. It becomes ten. It is called the Law of Completion. Law of Completion is when you became Krishna, Kar-ish-na, you become zero. Krishna means zero. Ra-e-ma, Rama comes. Or you become Rama, Ra-e-ma, Rama means one. Krishna follows. Those words which say, "Lord Krishna, Lord Rama," doesn't mean anything. Actually thing sound current is, Krishna where entire universe to become shuniaa, zero, and Rama where one has created the sun and the moon. One created the duality and where the creation has come to zero. These are the two words http://www.sikhnet.com/sikhnet/articles.nsf/9dee2aa6164e1d9b87256671004e06c7/e1b0fb4a4f0dae2c87256671004e4656!OpenDocument&Highlight=0 yogi bhajan: you are a human yogi. Things must shake you -- accept them. Accept negativity. Accept loneliness. Accept....you are all afraid of...everybody tells me, "I am lonely." Oh God, you cannot relax, not being lonely. The only thing which today cannot be taught by any wise man is the Parthahar. When totality can be brought into absolutely defined zero, to shunya, the entire concept of Krishna, the Lord of the Gopis and God of Incarnation and he has already been incarnated 10 times. He's going to be eleven times, and everybody.....Forget about all that. The word is "Krishna." Kar-ish-un. "Kar" means the creativeness. The entire dialogue and mono-dialogue, or multi-dialogue of the creative universe. Out of that, when it comes to shuniaa, it comes to zero, that is Krishna http://www.sikhnet.com/sikhnet/articles.nsf/9dee2aa6164e1d9b87256671004e06c7/3fef23cc095608c487256671004e4676!OpenDocument&Highlight=0 yogi bhajan: But the rhythmic Naad of the Shabd Guru engages and synchronizes the flow of thoughts. The pulse of the atoms of sound produce a pattern of energy that structures the space of the mind to link with the Shabd. This produces an active stillness, a shuniya, a zero-point in consciousness. In that stillness you are like an instrument perfectly played in an orchestra. Your instrument merges into the larger tune http://www.sikhnet.com/sikhnet/articles.nsf/9dee2aa6164e1d9b87256671004e06c7/0143eacf30a5144487256671004e466b!OpenDocument&Highlight=0 yogi bhajan: There is a Hindu God called Krishna. Actually the word is "Kar a shuna". "Kar" means creation, "a" means happen, "shuna" means where zero happens, where everything comes to stillness. You will ask about this Hindu God Ram. Word is "Ra e ma". One who created the moon and the sun http://www.sikhnet.com/sikhnet/articles.nsf/9dee2aa6164e1d9b87256671004e06c7/eee59db2cea5da4b87256671004e4698!OpenDocument&Highlight=0 yogi bhajan: ...If you come to the sophistication of knowing what life is, you will understand the life has to come, you have to come, to shuniaa. You have to come to "Krishna." Kaar-i-shuniaa. Where the whole Prakirtee becomes zero. Krishna. "Hari Krishna Hari Krishna Hari Krishna." Do you understand what you are saying?

sggs: p 727 The True Creator Lord is diffused into His creation; He is not just the dark-skinned Krishna of legends. ||2|| (10, Tilang, Saint Kabir) p 1374 Kabeer, one is known to have been touched by the Guru, only when his emotional attachment and physical illnesses are eradicated. (13, Salok, Saint Kabir) He is not burned by pleasure or pain, and so he becomes the Lord Himself. ||189|| (13, Salok, Saint Kabir) Kabeer, it does make a difference, how you chant the Lord`s Name, `Raam`. This is something to consider. (14, Salok, Saint Kabir) Everyone uses the same word for the son of Dasrath and the Wondrous Lord. ||190|| (14, Salok, Saint Kabir) Kabeer, use the word `Raam`, only to speak of the All-pervading Lord. You must make that distinction. (15, Salok, Saint Kabir) One `Raam` is pervading everywhere, while the other is contained only in himself. ||191|| (15, Salok, Saint Kabir)

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http://kamakoti.org/shlokas/kshlok16.htm pandurangastaka by Jagadguru Sankaracarya parabrahma lingam bhaje pandurangam

from http://www.info-sikh.com/VVPage2.html dasam granth by guru gobind singh: The Lord Akal creates millions of Krishna, annihilates them and recreates them. Some hang stones as gods around their necks, while others erroneously call Mahesh 'God' I have discarded all these false religions and am of the firm view that He who is the creator of the Universe, is the only Lord. Everyone is caught in the noose of Death, no Rama or prophet can escape from it. All of them who made grand claims of being Avtars of God died repentant. Why doest not thou, O, hapless being seek the shelter of the One Lord. (15th swayya) I do not seek the blessings of Ganesh, I do not worship Krishna or Vishnu. I do not recognise them. I am engrossed in the loving devotion of my Lord alone. The Lord of Death, Akal, is my refuge and He saves me is all tribulations. (Krishan Avtar, 434) ....... The Lord first created Khanda, the double edged sword and then his manifest world. Having created Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva, He created the entire play of Kudrat (manifest world). He created the oceans, mountains, earth and sky which stands above, unsupported by any pillars. He created both gods(deities) and demons and then created polemic. It was You who created Durga so as to destroy the demons. Rama also took strength from you to kill Ravan with his arrow. Krishan also got strength from You and thus threw down Kansa by his hair. Many great deities and ascetics underwent hard austerities, but none could fathom thy greatness http://www.bsingh.dsl.pipex.com/khalsa/news56.htm dasam granth guru gobind singh: Say if Krishan were the Ocean of Mercy, why should the hunter's arrow have struck him? If he can save other families, why did he destroy his own? Say why did he who called himself the eternal and the unconceived, enter into the womb of Devaki? Why did he who had no father or mother call Vasudev his father?" (33 Swayyas, no.14.) "Why call Shiv God and why speak of Brahma as God? God is not Ram Chander, Krishan, or Vishnu who you suppose to be lords of the world. Sukhdev, Parasar, and Vyas erred in abandoning the One God and worshipping many gods. All have set up false religions; I in every way believe that there is but One God. (33 Swayyas, no.15) dasam granth http://www.geocities.com/jeetkanwar/dgaud.htm He created millions of kind Indras; He has created numerous Brahmas, Vishnus, Ramas, Krishnas and Mohammads; without devotion none is acceptable to Him. 38. (He has created) numerous seas, mountains and Sumeras; numerous Machhas, Katchhas and Shehnagas; numerous gods etc and princes; numerous incarnations of Krishnas and Vishnus 39 Numerous Indras sweep at His door; several are the Brahmas and Vedas; there are numerous trivial forms of Shiva; there are numerous handsome Ramas and Krishnas. 40. http://www.geocities.com/jeetkanwar/dgaue.htm If God is 'Narayan' then every thing living in water (Narayan), like Kutchh, Muchh and octopus etc will also become 'God'; like wise lotus is also 'lotus in navel' or 'God'. If Krishna is Gujjar (grazer of herds) then all gujjars will become Krishnas. If He is Rikhikesh then many have assumed this name also. If His Name is Madhav then black bee is also called madhav; if His Name is Kanahya then spider is also called kanahya; if He killed Kans then messenger of death should also be called 'killer of Kans'. (Meaning thereby that by adopting Godly names one can't become God.) Fools speak out foolishly but can't go deep and understand the spirit, hence do not worship Him alone Who preserves all. 74

some quotes that look like mayavada/sunyavada from sri guru grantha sahib available online at www.srigranth.org u may be able to find quotes which look like they are calling krishna god but if my understanding of sikh philos is correct, when they use those names it refers to ekongkar wahe guru and not to nandanandana krishna ------------ p952 The supreme essence of reality has no shape or form. (Guru Nanak Dev) p944 He has no form or color, shadow or illusion; O Nanak, realize the Shabad. (Guru Nanak Dev) p953 Rama wept when he was sent into exile, p954 and separated from Sita and Lakhshman....O Nanak, the whole world is suffering. He alone is victorious, who believes in the Lord`s Name. (Guru Nanak Dev) p464 O Nanak, the Fearless Lord, the Formless Lord, the True Lord, is One....O Nanak, the Lord is fearless and formless; myriads of others, like Rama, are mere dust before Him. There are so many stories of Krishna, so many who reflect over the Vedas. (Guru Nanak Dev) p7 So many winds, waters and fires; so many Krishnas and Shivas.....So many intuitive people, so many selfless servants. O Nanak, His limit has no limit! (Guru Nanak Dev) p5 Speak of Him continually, and remain absorbed in His Love...p6 The Gopis and Krishna speak...Many speak and try to describe Him...Many have spoken of Him over and over again, and have then arisen and departed. (Guru Nanak Dev) p350 You created all beings, and You hold the world in Your Hands; what greatness is it to put a ring in the nose of the black cobra, as Krishna did? (Guru Nanak Dev) p73 Showering His Mercy, He has blended me into Himself....You are the Gopis, the milk-maids of Krishna; You are the sacred river Jamunaa; You are Krishna, the herdsman. (Guru Nanak Dev) p174The Lord Himself created Krishna, O my Lord of the Universe; the Lord Himself is the milkmaids who seek Him. (Guru Ram Das) p2 O Nanak, know this well: the True One Himself is All. He cannot be established, He cannot be created....The Guru is Shiva, the Guru is Vishnu and Brahma; the Guru is Paarvati and Lakhshmi....there is only the One, the Giver of all souls. May I never forget Him! (Guru Nanak Dev) p599 He is within - see Him outside as well; there is no one, other than Him. (Guru Nanak Dev) p350 Whose Husband are You? Who is Your wife? You are subtly diffused and pervading in all.....Proceeding on, he could not find its limits; what glory was obtained by killing Kansa, the king? (Guru Nanak Dev) p350 The blind, ten-headed Raavan had his heads cut off, but what greatness was obtained by killing him?...What Glories of Yours can be chanted? (Guru Nanak Dev) p5 The praisers praise the Lord, but they do not obtain intuitive understanding (Guru Nanak Dev) p465 The disciples play the music, and the gurus dance. They move their feet and roll their heads. The dust flies and falls upon their hair. Beholding them, the people laugh, and then go home. They beat the drums for the sake of bread. They throw themselves upon the ground. They sing of the milk-maids, they sing of the Krishnas. They sing of Sitas, and Ramas and kings. The Lord is fearless and formless; His Name is True (Guru Nanak Dev) p470 In the Jujar Veda, Kaan Krishna of the Yaadva tribe seduced Chandraavali by force....He brought the Elysian Tree for his milk-maid, and revelled in Brindaaban. (Guru Nanak Dev) p470 The four Vedas each claim to be true...Reading and studying them, four doctrines are found. (Guru Nanak) p1142 Nanak has studied the Simritees and the Vedas. (Guru Arjan Dev) p237 The Realm of Shiva shall also perish. (Guru Arjan Dev) p1035 For endless eons, there was only utter darkness....There was no day or night, no moon or sun; God sat in primal, profound Samaadhi....There was no Brahma, Vishnu or Shiva. No one was seen, except the One Lord.....There were no Gopis, no Krishna, no cows or cowherds. There were no tantras, no mantras and no hypocrisy; no one played the flute.... p1036 There was no love or devotion, no Shiva or Shakti - no energy or matter. There were no Vedas, Korans or Bibles, no Simritees or Shaastras. When He so willed, He created the world....He created Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva; He fostered enticement and attachment to Maya. (Guru Nanak Dev) p1037 By His Hukam, He created His ten incarnations and the uncounted and infinite gods and devils. p1041 One who receives the Guru`s Teachings, and remains aloof and detached, obtains a place in the home [ the void,refer to p1037- ] of the Fearless Lord....Through the Guru`s Teachings, Krishna lifted up the mountain of Govardhan. Through the Guru`s Teachings, Rama floated stones across the ocean. (Guru Nanak Dev) p1037 In the Primal Void, the Infinite Lord assumed His Power. He Himself exercised His Creative Power, and He gazes upon His creation; from the Primal Void, He formed the Void. From this Primal Void, He fashioned air and water.....Your Light pervades fire, water and souls; Your Power rests in the Primal Void. From this Primal Void, Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva issued forth. This Primal Void is pervasive throughout all the ages. That humble being who contemplates this state is perfect; meeting with him, doubt is dispelled....The Lord of this Primal Void is unseen, infinite and immaculate; He is absorbed in the Primal Trance of Deep Meditation....From this Primal Void, came the four sources of creation, and the power of speech...They were created from the Void, and they will merge into the Void. [ refer: p1035They issue forth from You, and merge again into You. (Guru Nanak Dev) ] p1038 From the Primal Void, the ten incarnations welled up....From the True Guru, contemplative meditation is obtained. And then, one dwells with the True Lord in His celestial home, the Primal State of Absorption in Deepest Samaadhi. The three qualities are pervasive; the Lord dwells in His home, the fourth state....p1039Above them is the Immaculate Lord, the One Universal Creator; they are lovingly absorbed in the profound, primal state of Samaadhi. p1040In the True Place, the Formless Lord abides. (Guru Nanak Dev) p1236 He is the Highest of the high, Immaculate and Detached, in Nirvaanaa. (12, Sarang, Guru Arjan Dev) p291 When God was without attributes, in absolute poise, then where was mind and where was matter - where was Shiva and Shakti? (3, Gaurhee Sukhmanee, Guru Arjan Dev) When there was only the Pure, Formless Lord in Nirvaanaa, then who was honored, and who was dishonored? (9, Gaurhee Sukhmanee, Guru Arjan Dev) p599 The essence, the immaculate Lord, the Light of all - I am He and He is me - there is no difference between us. (Guru Nanak Dev) p944 He Himself is all-knowing and all-seeing. By perfect destiny, we merge in Him. (Guru Nanak Dev) p351 When one`s light blends into the Divine Light, then the desire for Maya is ended. (Guru Nanak Dev) p21 When one`s light merges into the Light, and one`s intuitive consciousness is joined with the Intuitive Consciousness, The Lord abides within the mind of the Gurmukh, who merges in the Lord`s Union, through the Guru. (Guru Nanak Dev) p22 Give up your selfishness, and you shall find peace; like water mingling with water, you shall merge in absorption. (Guru Nanak Dev) p1035 They issue forth from You, and merge again into You. (Guru Nanak Dev) p1037 By His Command we come, and by His command we merge into Him again. (Guru Nanak Dev) p1037 Whoever obeys the Hukam of His Command, is robed with honor in the Court of the Lord; united with the Truth, He merges in the Lord. (Guru Nanak Dev) p1040 In the Fear of God, in detachment, one intuitively merges into the Lord. (Guru Nanak Dev) p649 The True Guru is pervading the homes within; He Himself blends them with the Lord. (11, Sorith, Guru Amar Das p633 O Nanak, he merges with the Lord of the Universe, like water with water. (19, Sorith, Guru Teg Bahadur p27 One whom the Lord merges into Himself is merged in the Shabad, and remains so merged. No one merges with Him through the love of duality; over and over again, they come and go in reincarnation. By personally experiencing the Personality of the Guru, one`s own personality is uplifted, and one`s light merges into the Light. (Guru Amar Das) p97 His light merges into the Light, and he finds peace. O servant Nanak, this is all the Extension of the One. (Guru Arjan Dev) p111 The Messenger of Death does not draw near those who meditate on the Name of the Lord, Har, Har. Night and day, they are attuned to His Love; they are pleasing to the Lord. My God merges with them, and unites them in Union. His light merges and is absorbed into the Light, when he hears and merges in the Truth. (Guru Amar Das) p128 The Immaculate Naam, the Name of the Lord, abides deep within their hearts; their light merges into the Light. They obtain the nine treasures of the wealth of the Naam. Rising above the three qualities, they merge into the Lord. (Guru Amar Das) p205 celestial bliss is attained in an instant, and doubt is dispelled. Meeting Him, my light merges in the Light. Says Nanak, the Guru has dispelled my doubt; in this way, my essence merges into God`s essence. (Guru Arjan Dev) p883 Says Nanak, the Guru has destroyed my sense of `mine and yours`. Like water with water, I am blended with God. (14, Raamkalee, Guru Arjan Dev p1156Says Nanak, my essence has merged in the Essence of the Lord. (Guru Arjan Dev) p1037 By His Hukam, He created His ten incarnations and the uncounted and infinite gods and devils. (Guru Nanak Dev) p1038 From the Primal Void, the ten incarnations welled up. (Guru Nanak Dev) p445 The Brass Age of Dwaapar Yuga came, and people wandered in doubt. The Lord created the Gopis and Krishna. (Guru Ram Das) p1022 The Ganges, the Jamunaa where Krishna played, Kaydar Naat`h, Benares, Kanchivaram, Puri, Dwaarkaa, Ganga Saagar where the Ganges empties into the ocean, Trivaynee where the three rivers come together, and the sixty-eight sacred shrines of pilgrimage, are all merged in the Lord`s Being (Guru Nanak Dev) p1235Many Shivas sit in deep meditation. p1236Many beings take incarnation. Many Indras stand at the Lord`s Door.....Many miraculous Elysian trees, many Krishnas playing the flute. (Guru Arjan Dev) p1263 Bhaageerat`h the penitent brought the Ganges down, and Shiva established Kaydaar. Krishna grazed cows in Kaashi; through the humble servant of the Lord, these places became famous. (8, Malaar, Guru Ram Das) p1156 He created millions of incarnations of Vishnu. (Guru Arjan Dev) p1403 You created countless Brahmas and Vishnus; their minds were intoxicated with emotional attachment. (13, Sava-yay (praise) of Guru Ram Das, Ga-yand) p455 Millions of incarnations of Vishnu and Shiva, with matted hair yearn for You, O Merciful Lord; their minds and bodies are filled with infinite longing. (Guru Arjan Dev) p1156He created and destroyed millions of Shivas. (Guru Arjan Dev) p504He created air, water and fire, Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva - the whole creation. (Guru Nanak Dev) p1136 Setting aside all other days, it is said that the Lord [govinda] was born on the eighth lunar day. Deluded and confused by doubt, the mortal practices falsehood. The Lord is beyond birth and death. You prepare sweet treats and feed them to your stone god. God is not born, and He does not die, you foolish, faithless cynic! You sing lullabyes to your stone god - this is the source of all your mistakes. Let that mouth be burnt, which says that our Lord and Master is subject to birth. He is not born, and He does not die; He does not come and go in reincarnation. The God of Nanak is pervading and permeating everywhere. (Guru Arjan Dev) p1038God is compassionate; He does not come or go in reincarnation....The world is a reflection of Him; He has no father or mother. He has not acquired any sister or brother. (Guru Nanak Dev) p1153 Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva are diseased; the whole world is diseased. (Guru Nanak Dev) p908 Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva are manifestations of the One God. He Himself is the Doer of deeds. (Guru Nanak Dev) p518 Shiva and Vishnu, and their incarnations, chant the Lord`s Praise with their mouths, (Guru Arjan Dev) p559 The wise one, Shiva, remains absorbed in himself, but he is engrossed in dark passions and excessive egotism. Vishnu is always busy reincarnating himself - who will save the world? (Guru Amar Das) p735 Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva suffer from the disease of the three gunas - the three qualities; they do their deeds in egotism. The poor fools do not remember the One who created them; this understanding of the Lord is only obtained by those who become Gurmukh. (Guru Ram Das) p852 Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva wander in the three qualities, while their egotism and desire increase. (Guru Amar Das) p909 The three forms of Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva are trapped in the three qualities, lost in confusion. (Guru Amar Das)

http://pushtimarg.net/Download/Book/English/Balbodh.pdf Jagadguru Vallabhacharya: Vishnu is the sustainer of creation while Shiva is the destroyer. Both have been revealed as such in their own scriptures. Know without a doubt that the Supreme Brahman is both Vishnu and Shiva for they have both been declared as the Self of all things. They have also been described in their own scriptures as being flawless and replete with all divine virtues. (Balbodh 12-13a)

"...the Mayavadis take Krishna as a great personality only..." ------------ does anyone know if guru nanak and the rest of the sikh gurus are mayavadis? coz from what i understand of sikhism, nanak calls his 'one true god' wahe guru formless and he respects krsna but doesnt accept krsna as the 'one true god' wahe guru to me this looks similar to the mayavadi 'saguna brahman' theory where their definition of saguna brahman is basically 'personal god w/ form' who they respect but ultimatley reject as in the sikh case if my understaing of it is correct

"...the Mayavadis take Krishna as a great personality only..." ------------ does anyone know if guru nanak and the rest of the sikh gurus are mayavadis? coz from what i understand of sikhism, nanak calls his 'one true god' wahe guru formless and he respects krsna but doesnt accept krsna as the 'one true god' wahe guru to me this looks similar to the mayavadi 'saguna brahman' theory where their definition of saguna brahman is basically 'personal god w/ form' who they respect but ultimatley reject as in the sikh case if my understaing of it is correct

http://isdl.org/festivals-shivratri.html Swami Prakashanand Saraswati: ...God Shiv has two forms. With one form He is supreme God of Vaikunth, like Maha Vishnu. In Vaikunth, Maha Vishnu, God Shiv and Durga, all those three are equally supreme God and Goddess in Vaikunth. Vaikunthaadi pati. From Them this whole universe evolves—such great personality! The other form of God Shiv is in Golok where He is in the form of a Gopi—not like God Shiv wearing matted hair, and scorpions moving around. He is a Gopi. A very pretty, young, Gopi. He’s called Gopeshwar. That’s what we have here in our ashram, a temple of Gopeshwar. You can see, a Shiv ling is there, and on that Shiv ling there is an inscription in golden lines—the Gopi is there, Gopeshwar form is there. The form of Gopeshwar. So Shiv as a Gopi. In Braj, in Vrindaban, in Barsana, He cannot be in the form of Shiv. He has to be as a Gopi. His personal intimate form is Gopi. So He was absorbed in that love, Krishn love. He had forgotten everything. He remembered only Krishn… Radha… Krishn… Radha… http://swami.org/sanga/archives/pages/volume_two/m101.html Swami B.V. Tripurari: Siva is best thought of from the Vaisnava perspective as a devotee of Krsna. But he is also God, although somewhat differently from the way in which Rama and Krsna are God. Then again, Sadasiva is God in every respect. Siva is a complex tattva. Always keep the highest regard for him http://gaudiya.net/portal/articles/tour&parikrama/Who_is_Praudhamaya.htm Narayan Maharaj: ...Siva means auspicious. Siva deludes those who are averse to Krsna, and He is favorable to and helps those who are His devotees. Sankara-tattva or Siva-tattva is very complex. He is not Visnu, nor is he a jiva. He is not maya-tattva, but he is not beyond maya-tattva. As Sada-Siva he is Visnu-tattva. As Visnu-tattva he is svamsa, a plenary portion of Krsna. Also, when Krsna incarnates in the three modes of nature, Siva is the predominating deity of tama-guna, the mode of ignorance. Brahma Samhita states that Siva is a combination of tama-guna, the quality of minuteness of the marginal potency, and a minute degree of the mixture of Samvit and Hladini

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Section introduction sb 5.22 The sun-god, who controls the affairs of the entire universe, especially in regard to heat, light, seasonal changes and so on, is considered an expansion of Narayana. He represents the three Vedas--Rg, Yajur and Sama--and therefore he is known as Trayimaya, the form of Lord Narayana. Sometimes the sun-god is also called Surya Narayana...The demigod Surya is always in touch with the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Narayana Section purport sb 5.7.14 In the Rg Veda, the predominating Deity of the sun is worshiped by, this mantra: dhyeyah sada savitr-mandala-madhya-varti narayanah sarasijasana-sannivistah. Narayana sits on His lotus flower within the sun. By reciting this mantra, every living entity should take shelter of Narayana just as the sun rises…Actually Narayana within the sun is maintaining the entire universe; therefore Narayana should be worshiped by the Gayatri mantra or the Rg mantra ---------- Haribol Prabhu, pamho and i wish you a happy new year full of Radha Krsna /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif Could you please explain who Surya Narayana is, is he like Bhagavan Sambhu who takes on an adulterated principle or is he a Jiva or what is he? And if you can, please quote from Sastras and Acaryas, thanks. Haribol

text 19 My dear Lord, You are certainly the fully independent master of all the senses. Therefore all women who worship You by strictly observing vows because they wish to acquire a husband to satisfy their senses are surely under illusion. They do not know that such a husband cannot actually give protection to them or their children. Nor can he protect their wealth or duration of life, for he himself is dependent on time, fruitive results and the modes of nature, which are all subordinate to You PURPORT In this verse, Laksmidevi (Rama) shows compassion toward women who worship the Lord for the benediction of possessing a good husband. Although such women desire to be happy with children, wealth, a long duration of life and everything dear to them, they cannot possibly do so. In the material world, a so-called husband is dependent on the control of the Supreme Personality of Godhead. There are many examples of a woman whose husband, being dependent on the result of his own fruitive actions, cannot maintain his wife, her children, her wealth or her duration of life. Therefore, factually the only real husband of all women is Krsna, the supreme husband. Because the gopis were liberated souls, they understood this fact. Therefore they rejected their material husbands and accepted Krsna as their real husband. Krsna is the real husband not only of the gopis, but of every living entity. Everyone should perfectly understand that Krsna is the real husband of all living entities, who are described in the Bhagavad-gita as prakrti (female), not purusa (male). In Bhagavad-gita (10.12), only Krsna is addressed as purusa: param brahma param dhama pavitram paramam bhavan purusam sasvatam divyam adi-devam ajam vibhum "You are the Supreme Brahman, the ultimate, the supreme abode and purifier, the Absolute Truth and the eternal divine person. You are the primal God, transcendental and original, and You are the unborn and all-pervading beauty." Krsna is the original purusa, and the living entities are prakrti. Thus Krsna is the enjoyer, and all living entities are meant to be enjoyed by Him. Therefore any woman who seeks a material husband for her protection, or any man who desires to become the husband of a woman, is under illusion. To become a husband means to maintain a wife and children nicely by supplying wealth and security. However, a material husband cannot possibly do this, for he is dependent on his karma. Karmana-daiva-netrena: his circumstances are determined by his past fruitive activities. Therefore if one proudly thinks he can protect his wife, he is under illusion. Krsna is the only husband, and therefore the relationship between a husband and wife in this material world cannot be absolute. Because we have the desire to marry, Krsna mercifully allows the so-called husband to possess a wife, and the wife to possess a so-called husband, for mutual satisfaction. In the Isopanisad it is said, tena tyaktena bhunjitha: the Lord provides everyone with his quota. Actually, however, every living entity is prakrti, or female, and Krsna is the only husband. ekale isvara krsna, ara saba bhrtya yare yaiche nacaya, se taiche kare nrtya (Cc. Adi 5.142) Krsna is the original master or husband of everyone, and all other living entities, having taken the form of so-called husbands, or wives, are dancing according to His desire. A so-called husband may unite with his wife for sense gratification, but his senses are conducted by Hrsikesa, the master of the senses, who is therefore the actual husband text 20 He alone who is never afraid but who, on the contrary, gives complete shelter to all fearful persons can actually become a husband and protector. Therefore, my Lord, you are the only husband, and no one else can claim this position. If you were not the only husband, You would be afraid of others. Therefore persons learned in all Vedic literature accept only Your Lordship as everyone's master, and they think no one else a better husband and protector than You. PURPORT Here the meaning of husband or guardian is clearly explained. people want to become a husband, a guardian, a governor or a political leader without knowing the actual meaning of such a superior position. There are many people all over the world--indeed, throughout the universe--who claim for some time that they are husbands, political leaders or guardians, but in due course of time the Supreme Lord desires their removal from their posts, and their careers are immediately finished. Therefore those who are actually learned and advanced in spiritual life do not accept any leader, husband or maintainer other than the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Lord Krsna personally states in Bhagavad-gita (18.66), aham tvam sarva-papebhyo moksayisyami: "I shall deliver you from all sinful reactions." Krsna is not afraid of anyone. On the contrary, everyone is afraid of Krsna. Therefore He can actually give protection to a subordinate living entity. Since so-called leaders or dictators are completely under the control of material nature, they can never give complete protection to others, although they claim this ability due to false prestige. Na te viduh svartha-gatim hi visnum: people do not know that real advancement in life consists of accepting the Supreme Personality of Godhead as one's master. Instead of deceiving themselves and others by pretending to be all-powerful, all political leaders, husbands and guardians should spread the Krsna consciousness movement so that everyone can learn how to surrender to Krsna, the supreme husband __ and i think theres a story about mira bhai going to vrindavana and saying krsna is the only male, i forget the story

http://www.swami-krishnananda.org/bs_4/bs_4-3-05.html heres swami sivananda's commentary on brahma sutras

http://www.hinduweb.org/home/sikh/rverma/ksgill.html heres an excerpt from the above link: In the VISHNU PURANA there is recorded an interesting dialogue between VISHNU and a famous Rishi UMBREEK. Vishnu is said to have informed Umbreek that he will once again take birth in the Kali Yuga. The Rishi then enquired when about will that be and what will be your name then? Vishnu replied that this will happen when the Kali Yuga has proceeded for 4500 years and that I will take birth in the Shatri Sooraj Bansi clan, when I will be named, NANAK. In this same Purana it is further recorded: - "Sri Nanak santang saageaami Sri asech, sri asech, sri asech, sri asech" meaning "Sri NANAK will once again appear in the world in a variety of incarnations; this is for sure, this is for sure, this is for sure." Computing the date of Guru Nanak's birth from the above mentioned figure that took place when the Kali Yuga had proceeded for 4550 years, reckoning the total durations of Kali Yuga now to be about 5090 old. It is to be noted that this figure of 4550 is pretty close to the 4500 years predicted by VISHNU JI above. Incidentally, the clan in which Guru Nanak was born was also known as a Shatri Sooraj Bansi indicated above http://www.hinduweb.org/home/sikh/rverma/sikhs.html

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