sasisekaran_pti

Om gurubhyo namah

namaste

dear coolgimmy,

generally aruda lagna is seen as some thing 'mounted on' which enables

others to see it. it is also given the meaning of perception.

but the confusion occurs, when such AL is used for timing death. many

times what is seen outside is true inside too. this always confuses me.

ul shows the marriage as such. like all other bhavas are analysed, ul is

also analysed. planets placed in second or seventh to ul can break or

bring in disappointments in relationships. this is applied both in rasi and

navamsa. navamsa is given importance since it is considered as

dharmamsa also. likewise third from ul shows the efforts. third house

is the secondary house of longevity since it is eighth to eight.

analysing these principles in the charts given in this thread is not possible

since we do not have the nativities of the charts themselves.

any such attempt will be futile.

may mother bless all

regards

sasisekaran

Om gurubhyo namah

namaste

dear coolgimmy,

i write below what i have understood.

aruda lagna shows how one is looked at. al in navamsa shows the perceived dharmic content of the person to the world. eighth speaks about the longevity of that person's dharmic outlook to the world. it speaks about the change also since is shows transformation. It can show the fall in

the dharmic status of the person. it can used for timing the fall of dharma.

third to ul, speaks about the efforts, initiative and drive one takes to maintain the ul.

all these can be understood better with a known case study.

may mother bless all

regards

sasisekaran

Om gurubhyo namah

namaste

dear shri. rohini_nakshtra

when the karma is big, how do you expect to come out of karma by

reciting only once ? it is certainly not a bargain.

recitation must be before agni (lamp). no other special ritual is necessary.

recitation should be daily , preferrably as a routine. even if the reciting

slips to a different time on a day, the reciting should not stop.

mantras are the real ones which can take people out of karma.

people believe gems will do. but they do not. gems recommended in

puranas hardly exist now at affordable price. it has become a business

for both sellers and astrologers ( who have an understanding with the

sellers ). mantras have remained the same and they will.

spending money on some artificial gem and forgetting the lord will not

take anyone out of karma. the planets are not gods. the deities ruling them

have to be worshiped. it is the appeal one makes to the god daily can make

him soften and redeem us out of the woods.

may mother bless all

regards

sasisekaran

om gurubhyo namah

namaste

dear silver lining,

before we dwell deep into the charts, let us wait to pass comments.

the separation seems to have started in the very beginning of saturn's

dasa for the lady. saturn is her atma karaka. she has to be very

careful before she decides seriously on anything.

the husband is running moon/rahu period. deception should not be

allowed to be a cause for separation. moon - rahu are placed 6/8.

it started in june 2006. but you have stated the separation has occured

just now. kindly confirm.

meanwhille do you think the issue of children to be one of the reasons ?

can you pl find the muhurta time of the marriage ?

may mother bless all

regards

sasisekaran

Om gurubhyo namah

namaste

dear shri. rohini_nakshtra

thanks for the info.

Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon):

separtaion starts....

Ven MD: 1992-01-20 - 2012-01-20

Jup AD: 2002-03-20 - 2004-11-21

Ven PD: 2003-07-14 - 2003-12-23.. separation

jup is placed third to 'ul' , its marana karaka sthana..

note the placement of jupiter in eighth navamsa lagna confirming

this. ninth the house of focus in navamsa. eight is twelfth to it.

june 2005..... divorce given by court

Ven MD: 1992-01-20 - 2012-01-20

Sat AD: 2004-11-21 - 2008-01-20

Merc PD: 2005-05-21 - 2005-11-03 .. divorce

saturn is one of the afflicting planets of venus. the divorce

came through finally in the period of mercury, who is the

seventh lord in rasi and placed in the eight from 'ul' in navamsa.

all these can also be seen from dwisaptathi sama dasa which is

applicable in her case ( since seventh lord is in lagna ).

she did not figth the case , possibly because we dont find kroora

grahas in third and sixth from AL. they show the fighting spirit.

her career will undergo a change a little after jan 2009.

i sincerely hope it is for the better. you said she was doing some course.

logically speaking, after qualifying more, she must be able to get a new job.

she may worship any form of shiva. she may even say "om namashivaya "

as many times as possible.

for career future she may chant the jyothiling mantra of the fifth house

in dasamsa. " om namashivaya namo somanathaya " 432 times..

vimsottari dasa wise sun dasa wiil start in 2012. sun is the ninth lord.

a rise must occur then.

i do not recommend gems.

may mother bless all

regards

sasisekaran

om gurubhyo namah

namaste

dear sow.sshakthi

from oct of this year to next year september, jupiter period runs.

it can give marriage.

your chart does not fall under kala sarpa. moon is placed in 9 deg

and ketu is placed in 26 deg. if you draw a line connecting ketu and

rahu, moon falls outside the boundary. but local astrologers , unfortunately

treat that as kalasarpa yoga. you may pl educate them.

keep fasting on tuesdays from sun rise to sun set. donate a food

packet ( since you saved food by not eating ) to a needy person.

pray srilakshmi. she is your ishta devata. she will certainly guide you

may mother bless all

regards

sasisekaran

Om gurubhyo namah

namaste

dear shri. rohini_nakshtra

masaana is burial ground. mars is exalted in makara. the fire is always

burning there. see how sri ramakrishna paramahasa , who has mars in

makara used it for his sadhana.

the lady (case 3) is certainly unlucky. Look the placement of venus in

sixth house, which is bad. all most all malefics are hitting venus.

in dasamsa too venus is placed in sixth house of service.

sun, the ninth lord is placed in lagna in rasi. sun is her ishta devata.

she may start worshipping lord shiva seriously. all mantras related to

shiva may please be chanted by her.

why dont you give date of marriage, leaving for foreign country, separation

from her husband.

has she divorced him ? did she loose the case ? did the separtion was

mooted by her ?

may mother bless all

regards

sasisekaran

om gurubhyo namah

namaste

dear coolgimmy

multilple relationships happen because of the ability to interact with

the world easily. if kama trikonas get activated more and if venus gets

too much activated, one gets into multiple relations. but all such realtions

do not culminate into marriage. many people do have serious relationships

running for years, still maintaining a family on the other side. these are

too tricky and hence i do not go into the 8th from every 'ul'. which

one to be termed as first ul is itself a tricky question. hence it would

be better to focus on ul and leave it at that. in foreign countries the

whole issue of marriage has a different dimension. we will have to go

through a 'merry go around' with ul in such cases.

sixth may be viewed as a loss of the seventh. sat and rahu conjunction

in ninth shows too much adharma. if such a combo influences auspicious

planets , it is a bit difficult.

ninth house is very important in navamsa. it shows dharma.

may mother bless all

regards

sasisekaran

om gurubhyo namah

namaste

dear coolgimmy

From karakamsa we read soul related matters. that is why ishta devata

is calculated from the 12th to ishta devata.

from navamsa lagna we see dharmic and abilities content of the chart.

ofcourse all matters related to marriage is seen from navamsa.

as you rightly said , dk/ak positions are to be noted.

the whole trouble we commonly encounter is in finding which chart would

have divorce and which may not. the more the negatives can only show

the unpleasantness of the married life. the break once happended with a

partner , in many cases blossoms with another partner to lead a life.

that is why we should collect as many charts as we can and yet do not

arrive at a conclusion based on few factors. riddle posed by the almighty

is always elusive.

all observations made by you are relevant.

may mother bless all

regards

sasisekaran

Om gurubhyo namah

namaste

dear shri. rohini_nakshtra

swamsa, karakamsa and lagnamsa generally confuse people.

swamsa is the lagna in navamsa.

karakamsa is the sign where atma karaka is placed in navamsa.

lagnamsa is the sign in navamsa where the lagna of the rasi falls.

sun and ketu can also cause curse. cursing sun is called pitri chaapa.

cursing ketu is called sadhu chaapa. cursing saturn causes pretha chaapa.

planets in navamsa lagna shows the abilities one is born with, while that

of the planets in fifth show abilites of the person if pursues abyaasa (learning)

and the planets in ninth show the abilities of the person that he/she can get from guru.

venus in navamsa lagna show artistic abilities or strong liking towards them.

let us proceed with case 3 - divorce as you suggested.

seventh lord mercury is associating with nodes. the seventh house has rahu.

otherwise the seventh house is ok. but look at the 'ul'. it is placed in makara.

makara is like masaana. ul is afflicted by saturn and mars. both are kroora grahas.

the fuel to the fire comes from venus, who is AK. venus is placed in makara.

its dasa was on form 1992 !. does she have children ?

you may add your views

may mother bless all

regards

sasisekaran

om gurubhyo namah

namaste

dear anusha

has this person been postponing marriage for lack of confidence ?

may mother bless all

regards

sasisekaran

om gurubhyo namah

namaste

dear coolgimmy

please down load files from "srigaruda" too , which is hosted by shri.visti larsen.

take the the lords from the rasi and asses their strenth in navamsa.

i am waiting for marriage details to help understand from navamsa.

navamsa falls in the border in case 1.

since navamsa is god given, what we are destined is shown there. in

case 1, the seventh lord venus is associating with rahu and mars placed in

mesha , a tamasic sign in navamsa. probably his wife refused to join him after marriage because of his 'excess'.

since you raise this question , in case 2, the seventh lord venus is placed

in vrichika - a bhadaka sthana in navamsa.

may mother bless all

regards

sasisekaran

om gurubhyo namah

namaste

dear sow.anusha

thanks

may mother bless all

regards

sasisekaran

om gurubhyo namah

namaste

dear zaara

thanks for the info.

so rahu and saturn together in fifth causing argala to 2nd, 4th have shown

their effects during rahus' major period.

in 90-91, moon and mars subperiods or antar were running. moon brings one to motherland. moon is gnati (relatives)karaka in your chart.

second house shows speech. its karaka , mercury is placed in seventh from it. rahu/sat influence on the 2nd added fuel and hence speech was

delayed.

the intervention of rahu/sat on the fourth had its effect on the relatitonship

with the mother and kept you silent or hidden on the home front .

it spoiled your basic education ( fourth rules education ) too.

i feel rahu dasa has not been good because the growth of yourself cannot

be termed as good or outstanding. at the most it is average or may be a

little below it. it should have paved way for higher studies. instead, it

spoiled the growth. rahu has played its part.

now let us come to the present. guru dasa is on. rahu and saturn are

causing argala. rahu and saturn are co owners of the eleventh house.

saturn is the owner of the tenth house. how are you doing in the

professional front ?

may mother bless all

regards

sasisekaran

om gurubhyo namah

namaste

dear coolgimmy

exactly.. that is why most of the predictions based on the rasi chart

fail. i feel even navamsa is same over a wide period of ten and odd minutes.

certainly navamsa must be looked into.

may mother bless all

regards

sasisekaran

Om gurubhyo namah

namaste

dear sow anusha and sow amanavani,

why dont you pl provide details of marriage and divorce for cases posted by you ?

since we are learners, more data would serve the purpose of learning

with logic.

may mother bless all

regards

sasisekaran

Om gurubhyo namah

namaste

dear sow. rohini_nakshtra

one way of finding the sex of the person is to simply address them with

shri or sow.

sun's placement in bhadaka shetra is certainly bad.

dhi sakthi is from lagna. lagna is the seat of intelligence. fifth, trine

to lagna, certainly influences it.

rectification of navamsa lagna , amounts to rectification of birth time also.

the abilites of a person is seen from navamsa lagna and its trines. but who

is to asses the ability ? and how to weigh it ? the native of the chart may

feel he is an able person in a field which need not be true. it is certainly

a difficult task to correct the navamsa lagna or for that matter the birth

time. unless there are too many incidents in life , shifting of the birth time

to suit the dasas will be a task.

nodes falling in navamsa lagna shows some intervention at the time of birth

which in these days can be called cesarian.

yes, venus is causing a severe curse.

i use modified lahiri, mean nodes, sunrise- the tip appears to be on the

eastern horizon, gulika at the begining of saturn, mandhi at the middle of saturn, the rest i use the default.

i follow sjc school. hence i consider sun and ketu too as malefics.

may mother bless all

regards

sasisekaran

om gurubhyo namah

namaste

dear coolgimmy

arudha padas of dustanas are as bad as the dustana houses.

al/ul placed 6/8 shows the attitude of the person.

the malefics placed in second to UL do not promote the sustenance

of the marriage. the aspects on second to ul must also be considered.

that is why i asked sow.anusha to provide details of marriage and divorce.

without it , we are at loss in correcting our understanding.

may mother bless all

regards

sasisekaran

OM GURUBHYO NAMAH

namaste

dear kmalhotrak

there could be short patch up between sep 8 -2008 and apr 2009.

but thereafter for a period of 17 months it does not appear to be good

i wish i am wrong.

may mother bless all

regards

sasisekaran

Om gurubhyo namah

namaste

dear sow anusha

fifth house rules thithi in panchanga principle. thithi house being terribly

afflicted appears to have played its role. the relationship did not even

have a start. if you can dig and get details of marriage day and more

it will be of use to us.

such short details pull back the momentum of study and analysis.

may mother bless all

regards

sasisekaran

Om Gurubhyo Namah

namaste

dear nsur_mys

both charts have minus points. the affiliction in your chart is more than that of

your wife's.

why dont you consult a doctor ?

when did you get married ?

may mother bless all

regards

sasisekaran

OM GURUBHYO NAMAH

namaste

dear kmalhotrak

your questions are intriguing.

you married just a year ago. why are you worried about the birth of

children in such a short time ?

in the beginning of this thread you asked " will i remarry " but now

you say that you really want to stay with him and be with him for life.

pl tell us which area are you really concerned and why ?

may mother bless all

regards

sasisekaran

OM GURUBHYO NAMAH

namaste

dear amanavani,

this is exactly the problems faced by us. while saturn is lord of ninth and

tenth, mercury being lord of second and fifth, saturn and mecury have

been chosen as a combo of tenth and fifth lord, resulting in a yoga of

narayana and lakshmi. are we overdoing this or is this allowed is the

first question that strikes my mind . secondly, should vimsottari starting from

moon alone be applied or can we go ahead with sphuta of lagna ? that is to try

and find reasons to suit the effects faced by you ?

since the dissatisfaction of results are from your understanding of your life

during this period, should we see first of all see if your expectations are

reasonable to suit the strength of the chart as a whole ?

many such thoughts are flowing. correct prediction is what is expected

out of astrologers. this is one nice scenario where one finds the analysis

and the final prediction a little tough.

for me the following reasons appear to be disturbing.

saturn rules vaayu tattwa and mercury rules prithiv tattwa. both tattwas

are enemical to each other. hence their placements is not appealing to me

as a parivarthana.

mercury is an afflicted one. it is with ketu in close proximity.

according to sage parashara, mercury is less auspicious and he behaves

like whom he is with. in addition to this, mercury is aspected by two

inauspicious planets jupiter and mars for taurus lagna.

mercury and saturn are in sixth and eigth.

hence i feel mercury and saturn periods cannot be termed as benefic here.

did you face any trouble in the area of profession and finance ?

mercury in tenth is considered for profession. jupiters affliction can

cause financial difficulties.

may mother bless all

regards

sasisekaran

Om gurubhyo namah

namaste

dear shri. rohini_nakshtra

sun is placed along with two sowmya grahas jupiter and mercury which

is good. but sun has gone to a bhadaka sthana. mercury is sowmya,

but for matters relating to fifth house, it is a maraka also.

sat, mar and rahu aspects falling on the fifth is totally bad.

as you rightly said, yes fifth matters is very important to this person.

but how far it has helped this person is a question mark. apart from

children, the fifth shows future. so many combined influences makes

the person indecisive or oscillating between good and bad. if this

person is personally known to sow.anusha , it will be useful in

understanding this chart. the chart to me is a complex one.

the navamsa lagna falls on the border. if lagna shifts to mesha in navamsa

then the person's dharmic nature changes completly.

can sow.anusha verify if the birth of this person was normal ? or cesarian.

venus is definetly under curse. see venus is pitrikaraka. without the

blessings of pitris, one will not have lineage.

mars placement in second , gives disturbances in family life. harsh words

could be one reason.

may mother bless all

regards

sasisekaran

om gurubhyo namah

namaste

dear zaara

saturn and rahu are kroora grahas. they give very tough experience in

one's life. it can make or break. for constructive things, one has to go

through very much hardship. if a person goes through it, it would benefit

the society also. take the charts of saints. saturn always has played major

role in their charts.

saturn causes dukha. saturn also gives enormous power to have tolerance.

rahu causes deception. rahu causes rebirth. rahu , if found as atmakaraka,

can help one to cross this lokha also.

the fifth house shows one's bhakthi, knowledge , future, children and authority.

kroora grahas influencing this house can damage these things.

fifth house causes argala ( intervention into the matters ) pertaining

to the fourth house ( home front, sukha , fundamental education ),

second house ( speech, bank balance , ones's eating habits ), seventh house

( relationships, partners ).

apart from these, fifth house also intervenes in the matters relating to lagna

and planets placed there. lagna is the seat of intelligence.

kroora grahas can affect all these in negative ways.

find out from your own experience what happened in your life in the period

shown below.

Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon):

Rah MD: 1981-08-19 - 1999-08-19 .. this is the total period of rahu.

this period is divided into as shown below.

Antardasas or subperiods in this Major Dasa:

Rah: 1981-08-19 - 1984-04-28 ..

Jup: 1984-04-28 - 1986-09-25

Sat: 1986-09-25 - 1989-07-31

Merc: 1989-07-31 - 1992-02-15

Ket: 1992-02-15 - 1993-03-04

Ven: 1993-03-04 - 1996-03-04

Sun: 1996-03-04 - 1997-01-28

Moon: 1997-01-28 - 1998-07-31

Mars: 1998-07-31 - 1999-08-19

may mother bless all

regards

sasisekaran