Kalkin714

 

to be a christian you have to believe in the bible. to be a muslims you must believe in the quran. In those books non-believers are addressed as heathens and kafirs. and both books advise forced conversion and murder of heathen and kafirs! How is that GODLY! It's not, it's Asuric, period! I'm done posting we're not in agreement, and it's pointless to continue!

NO YOU DON"T HAVE TO BELIEVE IN THE BIBLE TO BE A CHRISTIAN!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

And yes it is pointless to argue, because you apearently don't know what you are talking about. Have you ever hared of Gnostic Christians or Sufi Muslims? I personaly know Christians who don't belive in the bible, they only belive in Christ through their own understanding, or accept Gnostic text as Authentic and belive the cannonical bible to be corrupt.

 

I am also a Universalist minister and know differnt Mystic Christians, Pagan-Catholics, and Christians who accept Buddhism and Hinduism teachings. You appearnetly have only met or heard of the other kind. Like I said before, you have a very narrow veiw. You can't fight ignorance with ignorance. Just because the ones you know ignore the Universal message of love that their founder preached doesn't mean you should neglect it also.

So what about Taj Mahal (the outer court yard and pools) being a representation of Muslim Heaven? Just a lie? (I wouldn't know as I know nothing about the common Muslim concept of heaven).

 

My point is if christians and muslims follow their scripture they can not consider us anything more than kafirs and heathens. In their scripture andyone who doesn't believe what they believe are satanic. Look at all the atrocoties they've commited around the world. Abrahamic religions are demonic, period. All they do is brainwash their followers into submission, is that the way to GOD? Is waging a global jihad and killing kafirs the way to got? What constitutes making a religion legit, having the most followers?

Answer this, if Islam was a new religion w/ no more than 10 million followers and their were engaging in the same activites they are engaged in now,terrorism, forced conversion, murder etc... Would you be saying they're a legit religion or a dangerous cult? Having alot of follower doesn't not make it a peaceful religion, that's a logical fallacy! The Abrahamic religions in general are all about submission, control, war terror! They do not lead to GOD! I definately agree that any religion that brings you close to God is true religion, but that doesn't include Christianity and Islam!

What scriptures? I realy don't think you understand. Not all Christians are like the missionaries that go to India, and not all Muslims are Jihadists. You have a very narrow veiw. Not all Christians are fundie biblical literalists. Some don't even accept most of the Roman church-state's cannonical scriptures called the Bible (and most who say they do haven't even read it). A Christian is anyone who professes to follow Christ. There are many differnt sects, traditions and scriptures.

 

You can't judge a religion based on the actions of only some of it's followers. Originaly they were started by good godly people. It's only later that they are distorted. This happens in all religions. Hinduism is corrupt too. I admit that it's more obvious in Christianity and Islam and the transgressions perhaps worse in some cases, but this isn't the religion that's doing these things. It's corrupt church-states that twist ideals and subjagate people. These aren't religious people, these are wolves in sheeps clothing that use the pretense of religion for brainwashing.

 

that is nonsense! It's things like that, that is causing Hinduism's extinction in Bharat. It's time to be less pluralistic. Pluralism has made Hindus second class citizens in their own country, due to Islamic/Christian rule, fundemtalism, and terrorism. What is the point in bowing to your enemy? It's dumb. They don't accept our beliefs, why should we accept theirs? Pluralism is killing off Hinduism and that's a fact. We needto be proud of our religion and stop bowing to non-Hindus. I do not accept the Abrahamic religions, they are asuric. I do accept the Dharmic religions(Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism, Sikhism) and even Taoism, Shintoism, Confusionism! Those relilgions can live in harmony with Hindusim and have no problem! Abrahamic religions cannot. Read the Quran and Bible to see what they think of kafirs and heathens!

So three of the greatest Hindu's in recent history belive in nonsense then?

Who said anything about bowing down to your enemy? How do you know that Christians and Muslims don't except your religion? I mean obviously most don't, but many do. Just because some of them are ignorant and dualistic doesn't mean you have to be. It's not Pluralism it's Universalism. God is universal, he is not lmmited to any certain nation or religion. ANYTHING THAT BRINGS YOU CLOSER TO GOD IS TRUE RELIGION!

I'd say that an even bigger threat to Sanatana Dharma is coruption within itself. Brahmin's distorting the caste system and abusing power are causing low caste people to listen to the missionaries reasoning "How can such abuses be a part of true religion?" And religious charlatans passing them self off as swamis and even as God, but are just power hungry child molesters, are giving us a bad name.

 

The fact is that there are many synergistic religions (that have arisin out of all religions) that do find harmony between Dharmic and Abrahamic religious veiws. You have to dig deeper, even Abrahmic religion has it's root's in India!

 

Most Hindus don't know the beauty and absolute truth about Hinduism, the only religion where God is actually known. In the other religions it's all specualtion.

Gitamrta.org is a site which is preaching the message of the Bhagavad-gita. The only site where you can listen to the 700 verses of the Bhagavad-gita in 6 languages with one click, free.

The only site where you can quickley learn about the differences between Hinduism and the non-sense religions.

"All religions are true. God can be reached by different religions. Many rivers

flow by many ways but they fall into the sea. There all are one."

-Ramakrishna

"Living faith in his God means acceptance of the brotherhood of mankind. It

also means equal respect for all religions. It would be height of

intolerance...to believe that your religion is superior to other religions and

that you would be justified in wanting others to change over to your faith."

-M.K. Ghandi

"I accept all the religions that were in the past and worship with them all; I

worship God with every one of them, in whatever form they worship Him, and

I shall keep my heart open for all the religions that may come in the future."

-Swami Vivekananda

 

Like How the Christians are doing their tricks by spreading its faith. Hinduism Must spread its faith. More Bhagavat Gita should be distributed. I belief the Gita is More Supreme than the Bible. But the problem is Hindus Don't read it. There should be Schools to teach the reading of the gita. Your opinions.

To the Supreme Lord Shri Krishna and his other names Christ,Rama,Govinda,Vishnu,Narayana,Balaji,Venkatheswara,Allah,Perumal. Hare Ram Hare Krishna

The Gita is only a comentary on Vedanta and secondary to the principal Vedantic texts, the Upanishads. These are what you should read.And having missionaries is a bad ideal. Sanatana Dharma is the only religion that has come to us from the times of what is concidered to be the roots of civilization. What happened to the Ancient Egyption and Summerian religions? Gone! But the Bharat religion lives on, and if it hasn't been whiped out my Muslim invaision and Christian missionaries yet, I don't think it ever will.Aum! Shanti!

In the 28th chapter of Genesis Ya`akov (Jacob), after having a dream about a 'ladder' reaching up to heaven with angels 'limbing' it and God standing at the top(12), erects a 'pillar' with the stone he was using for a pillow and concecrates it with oil (18). He calls the place Beit-El ('Bethel' in english, which means 'House of God') (19). He even specificly says that the stone pillar itself was "God's house" (22). And he later, in chapter 35 v14, erects another one on the road from Paddan-Aram after God apears to Him and gives him a new name, Yisra'el (Israel) . (Which he also calls Beit-El).

 

How much do you think this is like the modern and historical Hindu Linga worship?

 

Aum! Shanti!

In the Kathopanishad it says about the soul at death:

 

"Some enter a womb by which an embodied Self obtains a body,</br>Others pass into staionary things-" (2.6,7)

 

What do you think?

 

Aum! Shanti!