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  1. please cite scripture to support you conclusion "there is nothing wrong in desiring to serve The Deity personally there".
  2. "let them hear, on the day of judgement, their own burdens in full, and also something of the burdens of those without knowledge, whom they mislead. alas, how grevious the burdens they will bear!" surah 16 text 25 "one day, He will say 'call upon those you thought to be My partners',and they will call upon them, but they will not listen to them; and We shall make a place for them of common perdition." surah 18 text 52 "and The Word will be fulfilled against them, because of their wrongdoing, and they will be unable to speak in plea." surah 27 text 85 "that day Allah will call to them and say: "where are My 'partners'?", whom ye imagined to be as such? those against whom the charges will be proved, will say: 'our Lord, these are the ones we led astray; we led them astray, as we were astray ourselves; we free ourselves of them in Thy Presence; IT WAS NOT US THEY WORSHIPPED. it will be said to them: call upon your 'partners' for help; they will call upon them; but they will not listen to them; and they will see The Penalty before them; how they will wish, 'if only we had been open to guidance!'" surah 28 text 62-64 we'll see "who God cares about?"
  3. "the evil that men do lives after them...." - william shakespeara
  4. "immediately after committing suicide in this way, he went in his spiritual body to Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu and received the mercy of The Lord. however, he still remained invisible." -Caitanya Caritamrta, Antya-lila, chap. 2, text 148
  5. "immediately after committing suicde in this way, he went in his spiritual body to Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu and received the mercy of The Lord.however, he still remained invisible." =Caitanya Caritamrta, Antya-lila, chap. 2, text 148
  6. "immediately after committing suicide in this way, he went in his spiritual body to Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu and received the mercy of The Lord. however, he remained invisible." =Caitanya Caritamrta,Antya-lila,chap.2, text 148
  7. "immediately after committing suicide in this way, he went in his spiritual body to Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu and received the mercy of The Lord. however, he remained invisible." =Caitanya Caritamrta,Antya-lila,chap.2, text 148
  8. "immediately after committing suicide in this way, he went in his spiritual body to Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu and received the mercy of The Lord. however, he remained invisible." =Caintanya Caritamrta,Antya-lila,chap.2, text 148
  9. according to Matthew 4-8, Jesus answered that in the earlier cited chapter: "therefore, whoever will humble himself like this little child is the one that is the greatest in the kingdom of heavens, and whoever receives one such young child on the basis of my Name receives me also. but whoever stumbles one of these little ones who put faith in me, it is more beneficial for him to have hung around his neck a millstone such as is turned by an ass and to be sunk in the wide open sea. woe to the world due to the stumbling blocks! of course, the stumbling blocks must of necessity come, but woe to the man through whom the stumbling block comes! if your hand or foot is making you stumble, cut it off and throw it away from you!"
  10. "immediately after committing suicide in this way, he went in his spiritual body to Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu and received the mercy of The Lord, however, he still remained invisible." =Caitanya Caritamrta, Antya lila, chap. 2,text 148
  11. "then all the devotees, headed by Svarupa Damodar Goswami, concluded that because Haridas had committed suicide at the conflux of the rivers Ganges and Yamuna, he must have ultimately attained shelter at the Lotus Feet of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu." PURPORT Srila Bhaktivinode Thakur remarks that after one adopts the renounced order and accepts the dress of either a sanyassi or a babaji, if he entertains the idea of sense gratification, especially in relationship with a woman, the only atonement is to commit suicide in the conflux of the Ganges and the Yamuna. only by such atonement can his sinful life be purified. if such a person is thus punished, it is possible for him to attain the shelter of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu." Caitanya Caritamrta, Antya lila, chap.2,text 166
  12. "due to the evil deeds of the destroyers of family tradition, all kinds of community projects and family welfare activities are devastated." = B.G. 1:42
  13. "if You think that i am able to behold Your Cosmic Form, o my Lord, o Master of all mystic power, then kindly show me that Universal Self." B.G. 11:4
  14. he who thinks that the living entity is the slayer or that he is slain, does not understand. one who is in knowledge knows that the self slays not nor is slain. = B.G. 2:19
  15. i will send you the nth plus One version. the original, untainted macmillan version... for free. the same price i paid for my first real Gita, even though it was only a ginsberg Gita, from Gaurasundar in hawaii in 1970. send us your mailing address. c/o liberatedyogi@comcast.net
  16. mantra twelve the Lord states that as soon as one reaches Him by devotional service= which is the one and only way to approach the Personality of Godhead- one attains complete freedom from the bondage of birth and death. in other words, the path of salvation from the material clutches fully depends on the principles of knowledge and detachment gained from serving the Lord. the pseudo religionists have neither knowledge nor detachment from material affairs, for most of them want to live in the golden shackles of material bondage under the shadow of philanthropic activities disguised as religious principles. by a false display of religious sentiments, they present a show of devotional service while indulging in all sorts of immoral activities. in this way they pass as spiritual masters and devotees of God. such violators of religious principles have no respect for the authoritative acaryas, the holy teachers in the strict disciolic succession. they ignore the Vedic injunction acaryopasana-"one must worship the acarya-and Krsna's statement in the Bhagavad-gita(4.2), evan parampara-praptam, "This supreme science of God is received through the disciplic succession." instead, to mislead the people in general they themselves become so-called acaryas, but they do not even follow the principles of the acaryas. these rogues are the most dangerous elements in human society. because there is no religious government, they escape punishment by the laws of the state. they cannoy, however, escape the law of the Supreme, who has clearly declared in the Bhagavad-gita that envious demons in the garb of religious propagandists shall be thrown into the darkest regions of hell(Bg. 16.19-20). Sri Isopanisad conhirms that these psuedo religionists are heading toward the most obnoxious place in the universe after the completion of their spiritual master business, which they conduct simply for sense gratification.
  17. this supreme science was thus received through the chain of disciplic succession, and the saintly kings understood it in that way. but in course of time the succession was broken, and therefore the science as it is appears to be lost. Purport it is clearly stated that the Gita was especially meant for the saintly kings because they were to execute its purpose in ruling over the citizens. certainly Bhagavad Gita was never meant for THE DEMONIAC PER5ONS, WHO WOULD DISSIPATE ITS VALUE FOR NO ONE'S BENEFIT AND WOULD DEVISE ALL TYPES OF INTERPRETATIONS ACCORDING TO PERSONAL WHIM. AS SOON AS THE ORIGINAL PUPOSE WAS SCATTERED BY THE UNSCRUPULOUS COMMENTATORS THERE AROSE THE NEED TO REESTABLISH THE DISCIPLIC SUCCESSION. FIVE THOUSAND YEARS AGO IT WAS DETECTED BY tHE lORD hIMSELF THAT THE DISCIPLIC SUCCESSION WAS BROKEN, AND THEREFORE HE DECLARED THE PURPOSE OF THE GITA APPEARED TO BE LOST. IN THE SAME WAY, AT THE PRESENT MOMENT ALSO THERE ARE SO MANY EDITIONS OF THE GITA(ESPECIALLY IN ENGLISH), BUT ALMOST ALL OF THEM ARE NOT ACCORDING TO THE AUTHORIZED DISCIPLIC SUCCESSION. THERE ARE INNUMERABLE INTERPRETATIONS RENDERED BY DIFFERENT MUNDANE SCHOLARS, BUT ALMOST ALL OF THEM DO NOT ACCEPT THE SUPREME PERSONALITY OF GODHEAD,KRSNA, ALTHOUGH THEY MAKE GOOD BUSINESS ON THE WORDS OF SRI KRSNA. THIS SPIRIT IS DEMONIAC, BECAUSE DEMONS DO NOT BELIEVE IN GOD BUT SIMPLY ENJOY THE PROPERTY OF THE SUPREME. Bhagavad Gita 4:2
  18. i don't have a "point", but apparently Srila Prabhupada does; what part of his message don't you understand?
  19. "when the athiests, after being well versed in the Vedic scientific knowledge, annihilate inhabitants of different planets, flying unseen in the sky on well built rockets prepared by the great scientist, maya, The Lord will bewilder their minds by dressing Himself attractively as Buddha and will preach on subreligiuos principles." S. B. 2:7:37, SCHEDULED INCARNATIONS
  20. "a female is never awarded the order of sanyass, because a female is never considered independent and sanyassa was never awarded to any female in the past by great acaryas like Sankara, Ramanuja, etc.. the female sanyassis are to be immediately understood as pretenders or prostitutes. In india they have organized so many organizations where especially young females are maintained to attract rich women-hunterswho pretend to pose as righteous in the society." __ Srila Prabhupada letter to Brahmananda, 14th March, 1967
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