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"So I should talk to people about KC even if they don't wanna know?"

It all depends on the situation, there are envious

people about, but as a rule talking to people who

want to listen is the best way, unless you are

a pure devotee then you can talk to any layman

and change his/her mind.

Guest 2:

"I still cook for him, gagging the whole time, but as his wife, I am providing for my husband. I do not like it one bit, but for the peace of marriage, I do it.."

Tell him to cook it himself the lazy ..

Guest 1:

And it startles me when they say, "Stop this nonsense and get into the real world"

Yes, this is what happens, also preaching to somebody KC,

why do you say you do not do this? Everybody can or is doing something to spread the movement of Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu, it starts with chanting esp hearing from

pure devotee.

"Feeling alone in this material world"

This is not true in anyway, but it can help

you love Krishna even more.

Please read Gita and Bhagavatam also.

"I just didn't realise how much I had changed so much that people find it difficult to understand me that's all."

Explain to people your beliefs if they will listen, if not then it's their own problem (for now), we all want to be KC, why should we have impediments?..they will come, but it make us want Krishna more, you have changed thats a fact, so you can understand that you can change others too.

Please don't be fooled into thinking you are an advanced devotee, being sentimental will not help you, you sound like how I was years ago, saying oh Krishna I love you, then when it come down to it, i can't give-up nothing for him, please follow in the line of devotees, remember higher thinking and simple living. This is my own view.

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<font color="red"> Sri Radha-Krishna harinama is the cure </font color> (anti-virus)

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I have talked with Bhakta Dasji on Paltalk,

he is very nice devotee, I hope all goes

well for him.

Haribol!

Hare Krishna

Taking up chanting, reading Gita, Bhagavatam,

Listening to Lectures/Bhajans, filling

your mind with these activities will

make you disgusted with material gratification,

also it just be noted that becoming arrogant

that you have gave up these habits will

not help, also the mind is strong so

don't give it a chance,

It can take time for some people to give-up,

these habits, in my case it took time,

there's no magic thing somebody can say to

you, but to gain your GOAL of life (KRISHNA)

you have to give-up these things,

weigh them up in you mind, what's more

important? You can give-up soon don't worry.

Also good devotee association is essential,

in the long run...

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Maybe I'm going of on one but..

Its same with Ritviks, out of ALL THE BOOKS of

Srila Prabhupada they found quotes about

this god brother SP said this and that..

but they ignore all the rest of

his teachings (or so it seems)

why don't these/everyone aspire

with determination to become KC????

The goal of life is KC..

His Divine Grace not sit around

critisizing, he preaches his guru message

Krishna Krishna Krishna that all he knows

It all come down to being humble in the

end as Lord Caitanya said..

Sorry if I have offended anyone..Haribol!

"When every one knows that he is a fraud guru. Then, why doesn't any one do anything?"

Try saying that to Sai baba devotees..

see how far you get.

"Our job as the devotees of krishna is to help people from getting into various traps set by false gurus, then isn't it our duty and dharma to do something about this?"

Just get on with chanting Hare-Krishna and pray

for these people, don't get into the trap of...

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"I sometimes feel that it is useless speaking some non sense with people as its a waste of time."

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I'm sure thats not what u meant,

it is funny though.

Smiles all-round Radhe Radhe..

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HK

Here's a start:

1.Me (govindaram)..

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We are souls,

not the Mind.

"With all due respect, I think that this is just another way of saying I DON'T KNOW, anyway, thank you very much for your efforts."

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that's why I said what I did,

I asked the same question before,

on another thread (somewhere),

On a humorous note think about this:

The Mind is subtle, think about it (in your mind)

"How is it possible that so many devotees talk about the mind and still no one can tell me something so simple as: what is the mind?"

A devotee once said to me "when you place Krishna

within your mind, then you can have some

intelligence"

So I would say try this.

"Can someone, or more than one, PLEASE help me in strengthening my beliefs about this relegion, about Krishna"

Just chant Hare-Krishna Mantra

(try to do 16 Rounds each day, if possible)

and read Gita here is link: Bhagavad Gita As It Is & Srimad Bhagavatam

Hope somebody else can help you as well.

Please ask questions if you need help.

There are many people that can help

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HK

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Ps that website you provied on this thread has a forum

also, I will visit often (Not)..too much info for my

tiny brain..and you're right I do need to read the

Gita more:)

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Govindarama should be approaching the mid-master level.

I think I must be dreaming..

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"Prabhupadaji interpretations were primarily meant for people who does not live hinduism or who is not born in India as a Hindu to understand various things in Hinduism"

If you have been/going to India, you will know that 'Hindus' are very stubborn (lol),

Anyway:

Worship to God is done..fulstop. Thats it.

Most Hindus don't consider philosophy,

they pray from the heart.

Srila Prabhupada said India is made-up of Vaisnavas,

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I think:

they are above US, because they see Krishna & Lord Vishnu

as the SAME, how many of us can say the same thing?.

not live hinduism or who is not born in India

Thats like saying all western people have no brains. So..

Anyways...the argument will go on..just like the Lord Siva/Lord Krishna debate..Haribol!

Hare Krishna

A lot of Hindu's etc have Ista-deva's (it just a word folks don't get into a debate), it means fav God, some people its Lord Sri Ramachandra, some Sri Hanumanji, some Sri Vishnu, some Lord Siva, so it's a matter of taste, in the beggining I wanted Hanumanji as my friend! (when I was very young), and carried on that notion not knowing, I am his servant ONLY, so here comes Krishna who is my friend and master, both! Ha Ha.