vishnu

thanks again, thats the best view on jesus ive seen in awhile.

that is a very interesting one.

Hare Krishna

Hello guest and sumedh. i fear that in jesus case, i go along with sumedh, his thoughts and spirit and heart is one with God, and without sin. not like other people or a dog.

Jesus is the only Son of God. I dont know how you define son, but jesus is without sin, equal in light and shekinah (jewish) glory to God.

we are children at most.

I dont concoct, i find the truth and scriptures are one way-and part of what i 'use'.

Hare Krishna

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I am sincere, i dont like lies, ive been called more sincereand honest than anyone else he met by some person even.

Jesus did say he and the father are one. maybe JHWH the father is mahavishnu and jesus vishnu. i have my sources, it wasnt decided by reasoning.

If you think that, you don't know Gods ways. He was always in control from higher plane, the crucifiction was no weakness, but great strength. id say its brave, and having such a big ego that you dont do this for your flock, that is lame and ungodly. God is not a proud God.

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sorry the boxes of my computer dont work /images/graemlins/frown.gif

like i said:i am oin communion cuz he warns me of things, tells me things which appear to be true later, answers when i pray and we can have whole discussions, but all the time i do not know:is it him, a devil, or my own thoughts. thats the clarity.

hmm is that so? someone else a guest here said he was here too and he got the answer in faith.

Well, those miracles jesus did, i assume your talking about healing and so on, when in fact, jesus cocreated the earth with God. He is Vishnu. im sure of it. i think mahavishnu is God the Father.

and as for demigods, the bible says we are Gods too, i think humans might be very well equal in rank if not higher after death, than the demigods. at least i am against worshipping any other God than God the supreme.

and where does srila pradhapada gets his info from?

jesus is vishnu is krishna is kalki who is here.

sob i want to know your thoughts.

holy mother of the Lord, thanks for all that info-a billion verses :shock:

ok as for guest, there are many gospels and info about him as well as the event from the bible (the destruction of the city Sodom, the flood covering the earth-geological places)

and hardly every text has been put in the bible-in fact many texts have not been put in the bible and bibles differ with every translation and even church (some bibles have 66 some have 73 books) and as for proof http://www.greaterthings.com/Word-Number/

and

www.biblecodedigest.com

hope to have helped.

eternal blessing to you

christloka lol. did i say that. i think not. if i did, well just think of it as the place were christ resides whatever that is in hindu.

ok i will give you some sites which validate the bible

http://www.biblecodedigest.com/

about codes in the bible which are impossible to make for common men.

http://www.greaterthings.com/Word-Number/CenterofBible/Psalm118.htm

more miracles of the bible.

http://www.greaterthings.com/Word-Number/

And you dont have to be confused, the NDE of the jewish man i gave explains it all perfectly.

How about following them both, since they're very alike?

They addon perfectly.

And neither I nor God care about what church or temple you go to, as long as his spirit is there and he can use you for his plan.

I would like it if you would reply to the topic of the jewish man with his NDE if jesus wasnt vishnu. i have my sources, and of course the bhagavadgita doesnt say jesus is krishna, cuz it was written earlier. but hey, it doesnt say buddha is krishna either!

you dont know a thing about me so refrain from judgement about how spiritual i am... or not.

yes i do chant and sing praises daily.

I follow the gita. wise words and i try to live up to everything Vishnu wishes.

all those hiindu gods of yours are not Gods. only Krishna is comparable with the christian and maybe muslim God.

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yes, i agree with you on the fact that christians are far too much into he diedforoursinsandwedonthavetodoathing.

that is not at all what jesus teached. matthew 7 and 25 are about that, and he has said:why do you call me lord if you dont do what i say? he brought me a teaching of Pure Love.

I dont think however that they make a servant of him, i believe in the cross. That was his greatest action to date of love. it happened, so i believe. love conquers all.

love is goodness.

love is dharma.

no, i do not think that people who believe it and go on living selfishly do that, he says himself in matthew7, that many will come who prophecised in his name and he will say:i have never known you, depart from me, cursed.

see also the near death experience of the jewish male, a selfish christian will not be known by jesus.

I am still trying to figure out whom exactly all those hindu gods and christian gods are...

i know for fact that they are in different religions.

after all, in revelations the names of an angel is called-both the greek and hebrew name. so god must have that too.

maybe jesus is krishna and JHWH is brahman... but i just heard krishna came before brahman so that fails. oh well.

i believe in JHWH (God the father) and then Jesus (God the son) as the prime in power. both krishna and jesus have the soul of the universe in themselves.

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thanks and god bless

God can become lesser if he wishes, thats my belief.

lesser while being greater at the same time. he can do anything.

I believe that jesus was just like that, far more than just matter, only for people who could see straight so to speak, he was seen as whom he truly is. He didnt say for nothing 'the kingdom of heaven has come close to you'

thanks for that info /images/graemlins/smile.gif it clarifies. i love that idea of the trinitygods being representatives of the gunas.

i got the quote from reluctantmessenger.com, where i also got that story of the life of saint issa from.

Godbless

wow, pal, i sure hope for you you are not embarased with me, cuz you really dont know the implication of what you do if you are that.

always nice to make people laugh though.

i cannot tell. but on religioustolerance.org you can find many reasons.

though they are not mine, they just add in that belief.

disbelieving me when i say such a truth is a sin, but that is up to you. what are you doing acting all wise and scripture this and that if you dont believe in witchcraft or that someone is involved as a victim in witchcraft?

youre going to be ashamed when you get in the afterlife, and no God will need to humiliate you, for the truth itself will.

ALSO KNOWN AS JESUS CHRIST, IS HIS '9TH INCARNATION'

WITCHCRAFT IS SUPREME EVIL! MY MOTHER IS A WITCH AND SHE . RUINED MY ENTIRE LIFE!

WITCHCRAFT IS FROM SATAN!

thanks! when was this written?

Hare Krishna and may christ bless you

dont worry about faultfinding, I like honesty and love to debate this NDE.

I dont see why not. God is completely perfect. we are not God. So we go wrong.

Of course, god reveals only parts of himself to this man, as krishna himself says:out of 1000 devotees only 1 truly knows me (something like that?)

well, i remember being in heaven and in the Eternal Now, but still there is 'some' kind of timeless time there.

but i love to know your ideas my friend.

but when did it start then? how far can we go back? shouldnt we all have reached brahmaloka by now if what you say is true?

Well, he gives plenty of actions we can do. (the krishna monk sang, the christians preach, and the crippled have a humble attitude. )

i think love speaks for itself, i know when i care more about someone else than about my own desires. action helps to form a good heart, but what comes first? the action or the heart?

Love is inexplainable. what would you have expected.

no, i dont believe that. Christ himself preached a whole teaching of how to love behave act feel and think.

(and you might wanna read the gospel with prayer im sure it will be very insightful)

i dont know the answer, apart from saying:free will.

but id love to know your answer to your own question.

oops this was meant as a reply, not as a new topic. oh well. its a nice subject anyway.

Srimad Bhagavatam... i dont know were this is from but might someone explain to me what this is, im not that much home in hinduism. i dont believe it comes from God, so please tell me what is this and when was it written.

Of course we should surrender to Him. Still the cross is real. and as the NDE says:be selfish, and you can call yourself christian all you want, you wont be it in Gods eyes which is all that counts.

I agree with you that trying to achieve total love/devotiontogod, is the ultimate Goal for a man, and i also agree, and the bible (christ) does too, that you should follow His commandments.

True knowledge... True knowledge is the wisdom that was in my heart as a child when i got a candy which was impossible to break and refused to eat it until it was broken and shared with my sister. The love and freegiving of God in my heart.

i dont have scripture saying thou shalt not eat meat;apart from the fact that God prophecised in church a 40day fasting. animals were made also for eating. as if plants feel less than animals. theyre alive too.

I agree. Follow Gods commandments. however they are different for every person-everyone has a different calling. jews have laws which christians do not have to fulfill.

mostly, act in faith and love.

my only point is:do good, and dont dare to use that 'maybe he squanders it on alcohol' as an excuse for your own greed. God knows.

The instructions of God... yes of course if you love God you do as he says. some need scripture. some can talk with him.

Material Givings and devotion are very close. if you take a wanderer in your house who does not believe and give him material comfort for a day and night, with Gods love in your heart, i assure you it will be a spiritual experience for him, for he will not just enjoy all the matter, but more so the love and caring of God in your heart with which you give it. show its God in you doing it, and he will learn to know God.

For if you want someone to know God, be like God and act like God, even in miniature, and he will learn.

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would we please stop calling other monotheistic faith-gods demonic? God shows himself in many different ways and even 'evolves'. that is, his plan becomes ever more clearer. christ is the latest. then, in the thousand year reign of christkrishna, all will be One. and a totally new religion, which was meant to be from the beginning , will arise.