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it just helps hold me down and keeps me humble peace

Oh ok, I'm really don't the books that in depth. I kind of fell away from the whole thing for a couple years. I'm just now trying to get back into it.

Broken down simply, Krsna(as Maha-Visnu) is the creator of the universe and all things in it, He created Brahma, who was the first devotee. That's how I learned it anyways. Sri Brahma-samhita 5.18: When Visnu lying in the ocean of milk wills to create this universe, a golden lotus springs from His navel-pit. The golden lotus with its stem is the abode of Brahma representing Brahmaloka or Satyaloka

just trying this out, I'm new to the board