vanamali

""I don't think Lord Shiva be too pleased if you start doing this. If you want chant Om Namah Sivaya don't mix and match like a mad-man."" ------------ /images/graemlins/tongue.gif I'm just saying, it is *possible* so see it that way, but I would sincerely doubt that was what Mahaprabhu was thinking... (then again who am I to say what Mahaprabhu was thinking?) hehe

Raama is such a sweet name. You could even call Krishna "Raama" because Raama means the one who is completely satisfying. (deeply pleasing etc.) As you said Radha-ramana, etc...

Hare can be Hari (Krishna/Vishnu) or Haraa (possibly Radha or another devi) if you prefer. "Hara" is a name of Lord Siva... if you really really want you could think of it that way too. Raama means Lord Raamacandra or Balaraama if you like, or you might even think of it as Parasuraama if you like that incarnation. (Ramaa is Lakshmi- long syallable at the end, so a different name.) I always thought the maha mantra was calling on three names of Krishna/Vishnu (Hari, Krishna and Raama) but you can think of it in other ways too. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

>>> I prayed for you anyway. {for 1 sec}. bye. - Thanks! One sec should be more than enough /images/graemlins/smile.gif

""1a.Immediate consciousness of the transcendent or ultimate reality or God. b. The experience of such communion as described by mystics."" -------------- This sounds like a good working defninition for the purpose of studying religious experience.

""But I do know sometimes a Jiva-tattva who becomes liberated can be Lakmi but this is not the same as Sri Lakmi. Anyway thx. "" ---------- I never heard that a jiva can "become Lakshmi" or even "a Lakshmi." A gopi or a wife of Krishna, yes. Do you have any quotes to support that statement? What do you mean by "becomes Lakshmi?" --------------------------- ""Ps I don't want to make seperate thread for this, but I am taking breaks from Forums for at least 2 weeks. I am doing a 64 rounder a dayer. I won't have any time to come here. Haribol!"" --------------------------- Good for you! Please do mention me to Krishna while you are generating all that punya! /images/graemlins/smile.gif Maybe your reccomendation will be of some use in getting His grace! Jaya Sri Krishna!

""Mmm I never knew all this. I wonder why different Sampradayas look at it diff. I think its all stepping stones. Because each one is bona-fide."" ------------- Well, that's one way of looking at it. But of course each sampradaya probably has its own opinion of which "stepping stone" leads to which! /images/graemlins/tongue.gif Anyway, you are right about the bono-fidacity /images/graemlins/tongue.gif of all of them.

"So tell me how can Gopis be Jiva-tattva. " --------- Even in Gaudiya tradition, some of the gopis are nitya-siddhas and some are liberated jivas. The ashta-sakhis for instance would be nitya-siddha, but some sakhis are indeed liberated souls. The gopis are also generally considered to be manifestations/expansions of Radha in the Gaudiya context. As to the ontological status of the gopis who are liberated jivas (as to whether they are/become part of the hladini-shakti/group of Radha's expansions) I have not as yet gotten a clear answer.

We are talking about the Sri Vaishnava (Sri Sampradaya) context. NOT the Gaudiya context! One school of Sri Vaishnavism considers Lakshmi to be Ishvara tattva (like Sri Hari/Krishna) and one school considers Her to be a nitya-siddha jiva. I do not think that they would agree that the gopis are higher than Lakshmi. This is Sri sampradaya, so Sridevi is at the centre. Even in the school that holds Lakshmi as Ishvara tattva, direct amsas of Lakshmi like Bhu devi and Nila devi are not considered to be of Ishvara tattva. They are nitya-siddha jivas, too. Even though they can be said to be direct manifestations of Lakshmi, and are part and parcel of Lakshmi. This is an inquiry into a different tradition, not an analysis of the ontological status of Lakshmi, Radha and the gopis in Gaudiya tradition. /images/graemlins/smile.gif Jaya Sri Krishna

People have talked about it on Ramanuja.org and you can browse the bhakti archives there. From my limited knowledge: There is much more of a focus on Lakshmi and Her ontological status. In the literature of the Alwars, Krishna's consort in Vrindavana is "Napinnai" who is a jivatma (who is sometimes considered to be Neela devi- the Neela/Leela shakti of Sri Hari) I do not know as to what extent Nappinnai can be identified with Radha. As far as the other gopis are concerned, there is again not a great emphasis. Bhu devi and Neela devi (and Lakshmi also, according to some) are nitya siddha jivas, so I would assume that some of the other gopis are too. Other gopis would naturally be liberated jivas. The emphasis is on Vaikuntha, but I have read the writings of some acharyas that have accepted a heavenly Vrindavana (Goloka) as part of Vaikuntham.

Hey yeah, I did think of a carrot. I wonder why that is! Here is the word thingy you were talking about... "Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a total mses and you can sitll raed it aynawy Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe."

You can always buy ghee from any Indian grocery. One jar will last a long time /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Wow, don't worry about it! I just don't know the answer to your question! /images/graemlins/tongue.gif I always heat up ghee (to liquify for burning in the lamps) in the micro. but I've never actually tried to "make" ghee by heating in the microwave. I mean, don't worry, it's not offensive or something!!! /images/graemlins/tongue.gif But I don't know if and how that would work, that's all! Good luck! /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Raama Lakshmana Jaanaki, Jaya bolo Hanumaana ki!

Well Lord Ramacandra is an incarnation of Vishnu/Krishna Seeta is Lakshmi Lakshmana is Balarama/Nityananda/Adi sesha/etc. Hanumanji is Lord Siva

I feel so close to Sri Rama when I sing Hanuman Calisa! Hanumanji is so great! You know, when ISKCON people chant the "mahamantra" Hanumanji will be following them around non stop because the name "Rama" draws him like a magnet! Bolo Siyaavara Raamacandra ki..........!!! Pavanasuta Hanumaana ki........!!!

satyam gnanamanantam nityamanaakaasam paramaakaasam goshThapraangaNaringkhaNalolamanaayaasam paramaayaasam maayaakalpitanaanaakaaram bhuvanaakaaram kshmaamaa naathamanaatham praNamata GOVINDAM PARAMAANANDAM!!!

YES- I can tell you from experience, this is the hidden treasure Krishna has showed me in life and Raghavan knows this secret too. Call Him GOVINDA and He comes very quickly! /images/graemlins/smile.gif Just like at Tirumala calling on Venkateshwara... GOVINDAAA GOOOVINDA!!

I always wondered if Jackson Pollock was a gorilla in disguise /images/graemlins/wink.gif hehe

"Marla's family see elements of Jackson Pollock in her work" Wow! Is that last one a Pollock or is it Marla's? Well Geez, yeah definitely continuing this from last time 'round I would say! /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Krishna without makeup!!!

If people chant high numbers with faith that Krishna will come through for them because of that, that is good enough for Krishna! If you only say the name "Krishna" once with your heart overflowing with bliss, that is good enough for Krishna too! Krishna is a nice Guy, people! /images/graemlins/smile.gif

I mean, I feel something when chanting, so I love to chant. Otherwise I think I might have given up long ago. But I admire this person for continuing even though he doesn't "feel anything" because he really believes that Sri Krishna will come for Him if he keeps chanting. Of course, I don' know if I believe that he really doesn't feel anything /images/graemlins/tongue.gif It's not that feeling nothing is better! It's not that feeling something is better! How do we know what is better? It is very subjective for us! I don't know, I just feel some admiration for all you devotees, whether you feel something or not you should not feel bad or that you are not a good devotee. Either way, as long as you are always thinking about Krishna, you will be OK in the end!! Love you all! ~Vanamali

Balarama (Balaraama) in Sanskrit Balaram or Balram (Balaraam Balraam) in Hindi and probably Bengali

Lucky is the person who gets killed by god! He attains liberation or beatification immediately!