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To Nav.... Gadhada I-27 states He lives in every indriya of a sant. That doesnt mean he doesnt live teh same way in a Acharya. Read Purshottam Prakash. It states clearly he lives in Acharyas fully. Kastubhmala Kirtan was first published in Mumbai by a Hathibhai Nanajibhai Sheth in 1912 show me from that very copy Viharilalji Maharaj describing Gunatitanand Swami as Mul Akshar.... Nowhere. Its not there as its later added by people who follow different upasna. Kastubhmala Kirtan is visible today in Aksharbhuvan do have a read. Harililakalpatru is also wrong with BAPS. They cant possibly know as they dont even have the original scripture. Ajendraprasadji Maharaj has it: B.A.P.S have added to the Harililakalpatru as well. The original one is written by Sadhu Premsukhdasji in Gujarati on the order of Adi Acharya Raguvirji Maharaj. Each page has the stamp of Adi acharya on there. Please read 17th Adyay Shlok 39-49. B.A.P.S sadhu printed theirs in Samvat 2021 and added 8 more Shloks inside. It was made by the help of a sheth of Mumbai called Sheth Maneklal Chunilal. This person is also described in the B.A.P.S monthly sandesh October 2010 page number 28. The original one does not even have Shriji Maharaj giving Mulji Sharma diksha in Dabhan so what to talk about saying he is Mul Akshar??? Go read for yourself. Acharya Ajendraprasadji Maharaj or has it and the scanned copy is with Swami Nityasvarupdasji of Sardhaar. That adhyay has only 49 Shloks and is the original one by Adi Acharya Raghuvirji Maharaj and Achintyanand Bramchari. In this adhyay there are shlok 49 in total. After Shlok 45.. from shlok 47- 54 it starts "Shri Shukanand Uvach" and his talk. None of what B.A.P.S put is within it. Also, the main scripture itself is with Acharya maharaj then how did B.A.P.S get its so called version from? The full version is ready to be published again anyway and people can read for themselves the truth. Please read Akshardham no garbo and Aksharanand Swamis vatos to see that al santos believed Mul akshar to be none but Gopalanand Swami. any mandirs under the mul sampraday which depict mul akshar as Gunatitanand Swami is down to Ragunathcharandas Swami of Junagadh who used to portray all the muktos as 'Mul Akshars'. Even Manki Ghodi. He made the chatris and many pictures of Gunatitanand Swami whose parampara he was of. Therefore such a parampara started. But this is not the fact. In Aksharanand Swami Gopalanand Swamis prakran.. bhaktos wanted to install his image with Shriji Maharaj, to which swami replied "no". This should not be done. Upasna is only of Purshottam. Vachnamrut Loya 14 states so. kshar Akshar thi visisth Purshottam Nij upasna. Pujan of a bhakt is mentioned in Vadtal 5 just like that of Bhagwans but not upasna. Also Gadhada pratham 68 says God resides in a sant. We dont argue with thuis. But that sant can not be worshipped in upasna. In Loya 12 is states brahm rupe thavu. Not worship brahm. Madhya 3 vachnamrut also states Akshar does not have ansh. So why do you state he does win your gurus? Yes Shatanand Swami states that. wherever Bhagwan is His Mukts with His dham is always present. He doesnt say padhrava. He says sathej hoy che. We already know this. Shatanand Swami doesnt say worship them in upasna. Please read Shikshapatri bhashya yourself. Where does it mention a Gunatit parampara? where does it state also put Akshar or other avtars within your upasna? Also your very keen on typing this Shikshapatri Bhasya Page 439. But how come your not so keep in typing shikshapatri Bhashya for shloka 41 and 62 etc??? As it reveals your not following it thats why. Why cant you follow Shloka 41 on shatanand Swami? Which states having diksha of dharmvanshi Acharyas of either of the 2 gadis?? Or about pratyaksh murtis of Shloka 62?? Also Laksmi, Nar, Balbadra etc are either avtar or shakti. Mahraj was saying that shakti or avtar can be worshipped alongside Him. This doesnt mean to place Akshar with Bhagwan Also in all swarups under the mul sampraday, all the swarups wheather they be Narnarayan or Lakshminarayan, all have Bhagwan swaminarayan living in them pratyaksh. Also, Vadtal 5 ma jeh varnan che te saparshad dhyan ni vyakhya che. Jemne mansi kehva ma ave che. Ane teo pan ekla bhakt ni nahi. Bhagwan sathej hoy temni kahi che. Ane Bhakt no mahima janva mateh kahi che nahi ke temni sathe upasna karvani. Vadtal 5 ma em kahyui che kyaay ke temni Bhagwan jevi upasna karvi????NAhi. karan ke Upasna toh ek Bhagwan neej thay. Ane teo pan jeo kanisth hoy temno prashna che. kanisth mathi uttam thava mate. Vanchi Nityanand Swami no prashna feri. Karan ke jeo kanisth hoy temne Mahraj no mahima hoy nahi etle temne eva ekantik brahmrup thayel bhakt/sant hoy temni tevi seva karvathi bhagwan raji thay. Juvo Bhagwan cheel kem bolya " EVU BHAGWAN NE TE BHAGWAN NA BHAKT TENI SARKHI SEVA KARYA NU FAL CHE". SEVA karya nu UPASNA karya nu nathi kidhu. Why would Bhagwan find anything "very difficult" like you state. Whats difficult for Bhagwan? He installed his murti Himself and stated to do the same for the Acharyas after His antardhyan lila. What proof do you have that Muktanand swami and 200 saints didnt want Bhagwan to install His murti? Thats insulting them. Your saying that they didnt have nistha? Wheather Mahraj installed His murti in whichever khand does not matter. As He himself stated He lives in all these svarups as Himself pratyaksh. Are yo ustating He didnt? That He doesnt live in any of the swarups such as Narnarayan. Lakshminarayan, Gopinathji Maharaj? Your wrong about Gopalanand Swami being asked by Bhagwan to come Junagadh every year. Truth is: Junagadh ni mahantai jyare shriji maharaje sadguru gunantitanand swamine sopva ma aavi tyare gunatitanand swami eh maharaj pase 2 var magya hata1 maharaj aap junagadh na jaman thao to mahantai swikaru,ne beh varas ma ek var sadguru Gopalanand swami junagadh aavi ne mane satsang karave to hu mahantai swikaru. Aksharanand swami ni Vato. Gunatitanand Swami says not to take avgun or perform droh of an acharya and you go round calling a Acharya a "rajasic person". here listen to this, it will answer many of your questions: YouTube - Swaminarayan Sampradai - A Must Hear For All Followers Of Bhagwan Swaminarayan! Your not ready at all to take diksha. You hold the siddhant of your svarth before the siddhants of Bhagwan Swaminarayan. No Acharya accepted Mul Akshar to be Gunatitanand swami but as Gopalanand swami only. Read Madhvanand swami ni vato, Chaitanyanand Swami ni vato and Parshad Monji bhagat ni vato. Your still blind to teh truth. Also by assuming "Maharaj only said certain things so tehy wouldnt worsip paroksh"... where is this within the scriptures? Its clearly in teh scriptures that just by offering Acharyas foodgrain alone one may attain Atyantik Kalyan. Which of todays Acharyas are breaking agnas of Maharaj? What about your guru who is doing this? For example Haridigvijay granth 45/61. satsangi Jivan 4.23 etc. Also saying jay of Narnarayan... this was set up my Gopalanand Swami and is being carried down today in parampara. Just liek the Ramkrushna dhun after Arti is. We already follow Bhagwan As sarva avtaari. That has nothing to do with it. Anybody not following the agnas correctly will suffer just liek the BAPS who dont. Acharyas are the 'acharyas' mentioned in the scriptures. The ones which Vadtal 18 states for all to remember the parampara of. All the siants i mention like those of Sardhar, Bhuj, Bagasra etc are like those mentioned in the scriptures. Where does it state there is only one Satpurush? Also please read that you cannot do dhyan on saints... Haricharitramrut Sagar Pur 17 Adhyay 82,83,84. Through Acharyas many have attained brahmic state. Even today and in the past. Do read the jivan charitras of these acharyas. Many saints such as sadhus of Bhuj, Sardhar etc have made many brahmrup. This, even today. None of these true snatos have vasna or dosh in them at all. They are moksh nu dvar. Many bhaktos became ekantik through the Acharya. Its through Acharya one can be called a devotee of swaminarayan. Acharya, Sant, Murti and shastra. All these are needed in teh Swaminarayan sampraday. A bhakt must consist of works, seva and upasna from all of these. One or a few without the others is not good enough. Its through the Gadis you can have a true sant, correct shastras, initiation and installation of murtis of Mahraj. Only when the Acharya or those who they give authority too, perform murti pratistha, does Bhagwan come and reside as pratyaksh. Otherwise they remain paroksh. Shloks such as Shikshapatri 62 exists because of this. everyone was eventually taken to be initiated to Acharyas once they were upon the throne. The Satsangi Jivan clealry declares this diksha as a MUST. Those that entered teh fellowship eventually attain initiation. Nowhere does it state Shriji Maharaj performs initiation through your Pramukh or his sucession or his predesessors. EVEN BETTER SHOW ME WHERE IS GUNATIT PARARAMPARA MENTIONED IN SCRIPTURES?? Maharaj is pragat through the Dharmvanshi Acharyas too. he is pragat through four...Shastra, Acharya, Sant and Murti. Acharyas are mukts/avtars.They are brahmrup already. But you wouldnt know. Raguvirji Maharaj used himself as a nimitt for all to do samagam of such great saints. Also to make all realise Gopalanand swami was Mul Akshar. We are not to install Gopalanand Swami with Bhagwan. As we have avtaari. Only avtaars need their bhakts to be worshipped alongside their shaktis or rest of His forms. those taht leave mul sampraday and go BAPS are unfortunate. Simple. Id rather do as Bhagwan Swaminarayan and nand santos say rather than a sadhu who doesnt follow agnas. Mul sampradays true santos ... they are all open. Come and have a look into their lives. Read the samput yourself and find out which samput states not to read scriptures without the seal of teh Acharya. I mean its there. Im not lying anyone can see for themselves. I dont just talk about the Vachnamrut only. I mean teh rest of the scriptures too. Have you checked them to be teh same too? As Harikalpatru sure isnt teh same. Also you seem to have less mahima for shastras. Please read Madhya nu 58 and Sarangpur nu 13. Yes, i read the Acharya niyams too in Shikshapatri. What of them? If you leave everything and come under the Acharya you can attain bramic states through many saints.Such as Bhuj na Sadguru Keshavprasad Dasji, Dhyani Swami of Kanbha etc. These are just two of many.The pushti (advancement) of the Sampradai is through its scriptures only. This is stated within the Shikshapatri as well as the Vachanmrut. This is the reason Shriji maharaj stated that Atyantik Kalyan is through it. Saints are saints through gyan of the scriptures. So, whenever you quote or reference something it should always contain quotes and references from the scriptures. This has always been the way. so when you dont do this you are not stating proof but hearsay. This is not valid In any way. If your sadhus follow agnas then why do they violate many? Like Satsangi Jivans, Adharanand Swamis granths (Haricharitramrut Sagar), Shri Haridigvijays etc? They will guarantee your place for Akshardham. They are samrth santo who Mahraj gives darshan too at all times. But you say what you do as you do not know. Bhagwan states in Satsnagi Jivan only murtis installed by Acharya He will live through not others. What of this? Also if one has to leave the samprdai... they wouldnt go against the Acharya still. Just like when Sachidanand swami etc were made vimukh...They were taken out of teh Sampradai but they never went against agna or upasna. Ony if such were to go out of the sampraday they would attain atyantik Kalyan. Just liek Nityasvarup Swami of Sardhar today. The ywill all attain atyantik kalyan. Not the likes of you BAPS. Your guys use this as your excuse but its not for you lot.So BAPS is not sanmukh. It would be if it followed the correct upasna and followed all agnas. I dont think you know the seva which the mul mandirs do with its dharmado. Everyday they feed whoever comes to their doors. Not liek in BAPSwhere you got to buy a token to eat. Also look at the medical camps they offer. Last year in Bhuj, crores and crores went into helping the ill over the Mahotsav. this happens every year. That where dharmado money goes my friend. Also look at the gau rakshan too. Welcome to ISSO Seva Medical Camp - Shree CS Swaminarayan Temple Nairobi - BhujMandir.org Medical Camp 2010 - BhujMandir.org Good luck to your BIG mmandirs i mean museums. Also you forget. Dharmado is not teh same as daan. You seem to think we look down on santo or somthing. But your wrong. We hold the Acharya, Shastra, murti and snat in par with one another, You cant have one without the other three. Also do you say Nishkulanand Swami was not capable to destroy vasnas and giving moksh? Is that why he did both lol. Pramukh swami may have done pradhramanis or right letters or come in the guiness book of records, help people become drug free, but that doesnt mean anything. Many great people in the world do such tasks. Gunatitanand Swami was a true sant. great at that too. How come he never felt he needed t osit on a throne? Do you not accept the desh vibhaagh lekh? And why not? Do you not agree with NishkulanandSwami, Chaitanyanand Swami, Nirgun Swami, Shuk Muni, MAdhavanand Swami, Vidhratranand Swami, Hajuri Parshad Monji Bhagat etc and their works which clarify what they do? Have you read Haricharitramrut Sagar on the process of becomming Brahmrup? Also that he states its not through ONE saints only. Vishram Bhagat gave moksh to ants alone lol. So what to talk of people. Havent you read within Gunatitanand Swamis vatos? LOL. Acharya Ayodhyaprasadji and Raghuvirji Maharaj gave atyantik moksh to many. So many leelas. You have not fully answered my questions.Also from hereon please only quote from teh scriptures of the Gunatit Paramapara. How ONLY satpurush can give moksh and not Acharya, Murtis or shastras, proof of new Arti, prood of how Akshar takes incarnations simultaneously and co exists as a human in the words of Bhagwan, which acharya is your acharya as you stated you are under teh acharya stil, Which gadi you are under, do the sadhus of BAPS attain maha bhagvati diksha according to satsangi jivan. If there are 3 Satpurushs on the earth at the same time which one is Akshar out of the three. I ask againIs it only one of them? Or all three? Also if its all threeit means there can be more than one. If there is just one that means the other two were not. Purshottam Prakash prakran 37 onwards, Harililamrut, Satsangi Jivan etc clearly clarify that the acharyas give moksh. LOL. So please read and then debate. Till then you are not at level to debate about it.Where is it stated that Akshar together takes three incarnations. Secondly, the quote states tyagi sishya shakao na bandhvi Nityanand swami clarifies that diksha can be given only by the householder Acharya and not the renunciate. So what of this? Do you think its fine to avoid this? Please do read the Haricharitramrut Sagar by Siddhanand Swami. Who was given darshan by Bhagwan Swaminarayan after He departed to Akshardham and then commanded that Swami write the scripture. In here swami states there exists many brahmsvarup saints and will in future. Not just ONE at a given time. They will also give millions atyantik Moksh. Also I have already asked Tyagvallabh Swami of BAPS when he came to Neasden at a good few years back. He came to padhramani at my uncle Ashokbhais home in Croyden. But he did not have the answers according to the scriptures either. BAPS websites, newsletters and many kathas (sermons) ive heard on esnip, youtube etc also do not have the answers when it comes to principle/Siddhant of Bhagwan Swaminarayan. So I ask everywhere in hope I do. But none do. To K sharma: You bring many prasangs into your comment. But prasangs need to be backed up by scriptures. Maharaj being Avtari is backed up many times in scriptures. But Gunatitanand Swami being Mul Akshar is not. But Gopalanand Swami being Mul Akshar is backed up. also you stating about the past avtars is also wrong. Ayodhyaprasadji Maharaj was Pradyumna avtar. Gopalanand Swami was Mul akshar. Gunatitanand Swami was the eldest of the Sankadiks. These all are confirmed in Nirgun Swami ni vato, Chaitanyanand Swami ni vato and many others. Please also read the Durgpur mahatmyam to confirm Ayodhyaprasadji Maharaj, its there. Jyare Swaminarayan Bhagwan antardhyan thavan hata tyare pote em bolya ke jeh karya karva teo avya hata te sau puru thayu hatu. Kyay koi AP upasna vishe vaat karij nohti. BAKI TAMARA PRASANGO VANCHYA. NICE BUT NOT FACTUAL. DO ASSUME LESS AND PUBLISH FACTS MORE INSTEAD OF SIMPLY STATING WHAT YOU THINK MAY BE RIGHT AS OPPOSED TO WHAT IS. wOULD BE BETTER. I end with a nice clip...do listen.Talks of BAPS at end. YouTube - Sarvopari Shri Hari- A Must Hear! JAI SHREE SWAMINARAYAN

According to vedas praying to a false man claiming to be a god is also a sinful act. THIS I AGREE WITH. But Swaminarayan was no man. he was God Himself. This is predicted within the Skand Puran as well. His works also state so. Also The Vasudev Mahatmyam declares that their are innumerable avtaras. They cannot be put into numbers. PLEASE QUOTE WHERE IN THE VEDAS IT STATES GOD DOESN'T COME IN THE KALIYUG.

I challenge you that Pramukh swami is not following all the agnas. For example he cannot do aahavan of murtis. Raad satsangi Jivan prakran 4. HE is not a Swaminarayan sadhu otherwise he wouldnt have left the refuge of dharmvansh as described in Desh vibhaagh lekh and Haricharitramrut sagar in Pur 11 Tarang 2. No sant/sadhu can do this. Otherwise they are out of the satsang. You say only he gives true way.. you havent met my guru. Go meet him. He is in Bhuj Mandir. He talks with Bhagwan!!! He is Brahmrup.

Read the Vasudev Mahtmyam in Vishnu Khand of Skand Puran. Clearly states that meat eating started after the curse of Durvasa to Indra. But no scripture reccomends it and also it is asuri.Its for the asurs. Meat eating is not for those who want to advance spiritually.

Although some historians and anthropologists say that man is historically omnivores, our anatomical equipment ­ teeth, jaws, and digestive system ­ favors a fleshless diet. The American Dietetic Association notes that “most of mankind for most of human history has lived on vegetarian or near-vegetarian diets.” And much of the world still lives that way. Even on most industrialized countries, the love affair with meat is less than a hundred years old. It started with the refrigerator car and the twentieth-century consumer society. But even with the twentieth century, man’s body hasn’t adapted to eating meat. The prominent Swedish scientist Karl von Linne states, “Man’s structure, external and internal, compared with that of the other animals, shows that fruit and succulent vegetables constitute his natural food.” Comparison between carnivores, herbivores and humans When you look at the comparison between herbivores and humans, we compare much more closely to herbivores than meat eating animals. Humans are clearly not designed to digest and ingest meat. Meat-eaters: have claws Herbivores: no claws Humans: no claws Meat-eaters: have no skin pores and perspire through the tongue Herbivores: perspire through skin pores Humans: perspire through skin pores Meat-eaters: have sharp front teeth for tearing, with no flat molar teeth for grinding Herbivores: no sharp front teeth, but flat rear molars for grinding Humans: no sharp front teeth, but flat rear molars for grinding Meat-eaters: have intestinal tract that is only 3 times their body length so that rapidly decaying meat can pass through quickly Herbivores: have intestinal tract 10-12 times their body length. Humans: have intestinal tract 10-12 times their body length. Meat-eaters: have strong hydrochloric acid in stomach to digest meat Herbivores: have stomach acid that is 20 times weaker than that of a meat-eater Humans: have stomach acid that is 20 times weaker than that of a meat-eater Meat-eaters: salivary glands in mouth not needed to pre-digest grains and fruits. Herbivores: well-developed salivary glands which are necessary to pre-digest grains and fruits Humans: well-developed salivary glands, which are necessary to pre-digest, grains and fruits Meat-eaters: have acid saliva with no enzyme ptyalin to pre-digest grains Herbivores: have alkaline saliva with ptyalin to pre-digest grains Humans: have alkaline saliva with ptyalin to pre-digest grains Based on a chart by A.D. Andrews, Fit Food for Men, (Chicago: American Hygiene Society, 1970) Clearly if humans were meant to eat meat we wouldn’t have so many crucial ingestive/digestive similarities with animals that are herbivores. Why do people eat meat? Many people ask me, “If we weren’t supposed to eat meat than why do we?”. It is because we are conditioned to eat meat. Also, the ADA (American Dietetic Association) tells us that “most of mankind for most of human history has lived on a vegetarian or Lacto-ovo vegetarian diet. A popular statement that meat eaters say is; “In the wild, animals kill other animals for food. It’s nature.” First of all, we are not in the wild. Secondly, we can easily live without eating meat and killing, not to mention we’d be healthier. And finally, as I have already shown, we weren’t meant to eat meat. Meat and seafood putrefies within 4 hours after consumption and the remnants cling to the walls of the stomach and intestines for 3-4 days or longer than if a person is constipated. Furthermore, the reaction of saliva in humans is more alkaline, whereas in the case of flesh-eating or preying animals, it is clearly acidic. The alkaline saliva does not act properly on meat. The final point I would like to make on how we as humans were not meant to eat meat is this. All omnivorous and carnivorous animals eat their meat raw. When a lion kills an herbivore for food, it tears right into the stomach area to eat the organs that are filled with blood (nutrients). While eating the stomach, liver, intestine, etc., the lion laps the blood in the process of eating the dead animals flesh. Even bears that are omnivores eat salmon raw. However, eating raw or bloody meat disgust us as humans. Therefore, we must cook it and season it to buffer the taste of flesh. If a deer is burned in a forest fire, a carnivorous animal will NOT eat its flesh. Even circus lions have to be feed raw meat so that they will not starve to death. If humans were truly meant to eat meat, then we would eat all of our meat raw and bloody. The thought of eating such meat makes one’s stomach turn. This is my point on how we as humans are conditioned to believe that animal flesh is good for us and that we were meant to consume it for survival and health purposes. If we are true carnivores or omnivores, cooking our meat and seasoning it with salt, ketchup, or tabasco sauce would disguise and we as humans would refuse to eat our meat in this form

Q.1) Plants are also having life and killing plants is also sin. So in what sense vegetarian food is better than non-vegetarian food, in terms of killing or 'sin'? SWAMIJI: This is a very good question. It is true that plants also have "life" and killing plants is also sin. So the best way to observe total non-violence is to follow "Shiloncha Vraththi". That is to take only those fruit fallen from the trees, plants. In this way we are doing harm to none. But everyone can not follow that. We have to take food to survive and sustain this body and it the question of survival. So we need to take that path which is less sinful and less harm to other "jivi". Now there are two reasons to say that vegetarian food is having insignificant sin. Many of the plants like rice, wheat etc. are having life only for one crop time. Once their yield is over, they die, even if we don't cut them. So by cutting those plants we are doing we less sin or no sin at all. In many other plants, like mango, coconut etc, by plucking the fruit, we are not killing the plants and so we are doing very minimal sin or no sin at all. So vegetarian food is less sinful. More over it is inevitable for our survival, but non-vegetarian food is a luxury to us and we can afford to avoid that. It is more sinful since we are killing animals all the time. Next we need to know why certain acts are sinful. Each and every life (plants, animals etc) has come to this world, to do "sadhana"(efforts), to get better life and finally get "moksha". Whenever such "sadhana" opportunity is cut short, it becomes sin. For plants there is no much "sadhana". They can not do any kind of physical or mental activities, in terms of "sadhana". So by cutting them, we are not doing many harms to their "sadhana" or reducing their opportunity for "sadhana". So it is not sinful. But animals can do a good amount of "sadhana" by means of physical and / or mental activities. By killing them, we are cutting short their opportunities to do "sadhana" towards moksha. So it is more sinful. To support this aspect further, "suicide" is considered as biggest sin, even though no one else is troubled other than the self, because God has given us this wonderful body and mind to do "sadhana" towards moksha and by rejecting this offer or by cutting short this "sadhana", we are insulting God and betraying him. So it is highly sinful. There is another example in "Sasthra". Suppose there is a very very old man, incapable of doing any physical and mental activities. Then he can enter to fire to end his life. That is not sin because he can not do any more "sadhana" by himself or through others. So in general any act which is cutting short others or self "sadhana", it is considered as sin. and vegetarians are doing less sin. Q.2) We were thinking that only human beings, having 'thinking power' can only do "sadhana" and other animals can not. Is it not true? How animals can do "sadhana"? SWAMIJI: It is not true. All animals can also do "sadhana". Otherwise there is a fundamental problem in the system. If animals can not do "sadhana", they can not get better life, namely human life. If they can not get human life, then they can not get "moksha" at all at any time. This is not true and so it is proved that animals also do "sadhana" and get better life. They do 'sadhana' by their mental activities. We can see lot of difference in the behavior of animals. In the same category say cat, dog or cow, we can see lot of difference like some are soft, some are sensitive, some are more active etc. This is due to their mental "sadhana". Also in kids who are not having any thinking power, we are seeing lot of differences. We have seen a kid, in Bombay, around 2 years old. It loves Krishna like anything. While sleeping, it tightly hugs Krishna idol; does not drink milk without offering to Krishna; always want to listen to Krishna's story; always wants to witness Krishna Pooja. It is really surprising. It is all due to previous "samskara". Like that animals also will have previous samskara and "sadhana". Q. 3) Is it true that in olden days, sages used to eat meat? There is an incident of 'Agasthya' eating meat in " Vathapi - Ilvala" story. SWAMIJI: Yes, we can see some mention about such things in very old stories. We need to understand clearly why and under what circumstances they used to consume meat. Firstly they used to take meat, not as their regular food. The animal would be offered to 'yajna', the sacred fire and then the sages, having high yogic power would consume the meat as prasad of the yajna. Due to this auspicious activity, the animal would go to heaven. In the story of 'Augusthya', when he said ' Vathapi jirno bhava', he got digested immediately. Such was the power in those days. But now meat is not approved to Brahmins. First we need to understand why we consume food. It is to have good health. Health means not only the physical health. The mental health plays a very important role. That's why in Sanskrit it is known as "swasthya" means mental peace, purity and health. Meat or non-vegetarian food improves body and but not the mind. So for those people, who need to have physical strength, like solders, meat is not prohibited. Solders need not have any thinking power. They have to fight like machines. But for Brahmins, mental power is more important. We need to have peace and purity of mind, stability and concentration of mind. So for us meat is prohibited. Since ages our ancestors were having vegetarian food and so Brahmins are generally considered as soft, kind hearted, stable and intelligent people. If we start consuming meat, slowly we will loose all these good qualities. We will not see the changes overnight. It takes time and we will see the changes in the later generations. Q. 4) There are many noble laureates who are meat eaters. What we can say for that? SWAMIJI: Getting a noble prize is not at all a yardstick to measure the peace and purity, stability and concentration of mind. It is known that suicide rate is high in scientists too. Actually scientists are more disturbed in their mind. Due to this, they get activated and get involved deeply in something and come out with some new things. For their success, the basic reason is not the peaceful mind, but disturbed mind. Generally Brahmins who is suppose to have the mental capacity to understand ' Brahma', need to have very good concentration power for 'japa' and 'tapa'. and they are supposed to be mentally not disturbed people. In olden days even if they consume meat, they used to keep up their mental stability and peace of mind, due to their yogic power or 'thapas'. But now in 'Kaliyuga', as such our mental powers and concentration powers are getting reduced. We are loosing our purity and peace of mind due to various reasons. As such the 'satvic' atmosphere and 'satvic' qualities are reducing because we are not doing enough 'japa', 'tapa' etc. So if we start consuming meat we will loose all our good mental qualities soon. So in 'kaliyuga', meat is strictly prohibited for Brahmins. It is also sinful as said in previous answers. Q. 5) Is it not sin to kill silkworms for silk and deer's for 'krishnaa-jina'? SWAMIJI : Short answer is it is sin if we do for trading purpose. For detailed answer, first we need to understand what sin is. It is not a substance associated with a particular activity. The same activity can be resulted in sin or not depending upon the purpose, intention and circumstance. For e.g. killing in general is sin, but killing a demon or man hunter is not sin. Similarly in olden days kings used to go for hunting. It was not sin because they used to kill only those wild animals, which are troublesome to the sages and the nearby villagers. Similarly if we kill animal to avoid being killed, it is not sin. As said earlier, every creature in this world is for doing "sadhana". Here the priority is for those doing greater "sadhana". To accomplish that, if others have to sacrifice their "sadhana", there is no harm in that. For e.g.: Assume that there are two students in a house, One if preparing for second grade and other one preparing for Medical exam. Though both are preparing for their exams, we consider that medical exam is more important and give preference to him. If needed, we may ask the other to sacrifice his preparation, because he doesn't lose much. Similarly in this world, "jivi" doing higher order of "sadhana", gets preference. So for the benefit of that, others with little "sadhana" may be sacrificed without any sin. So if we are preparing silk for God's pooja, then it is not sin. But if we are preparing silk for decorating ourselves, it is sin. So we need to understand what is the purpose of the act and what we are going achieve finally. http://www.salagram.net/PSM-veg.htm

Q.1) Plants are also having life and killing plants is also sin. So in what sense vegetarian food is better than non-vegetarian food, in terms of killing or 'sin'? SWAMIJI: This is a very good question. It is true that plants also have "life" and killing plants is also sin. So the best way to observe total non-violence is to follow "Shiloncha Vraththi". That is to take only those fruit fallen from the trees, plants. In this way we are doing harm to none. But everyone can not follow that. We have to take food to survive and sustain this body and it the question of survival. So we need to take that path which is less sinful and less harm to other "jivi". Now there are two reasons to say that vegetarian food is having insignificant sin. Many of the plants like rice, wheat etc. are having life only for one crop time. Once their yield is over, they die, even if we don't cut them. So by cutting those plants we are doing we less sin or no sin at all. In many other plants, like mango, coconut etc, by plucking the fruit, we are not killing the plants and so we are doing very minimal sin or no sin at all. So vegetarian food is less sinful. More over it is inevitable for our survival, but non-vegetarian food is a luxury to us and we can afford to avoid that. It is more sinful since we are killing animals all the time. Next we need to know why certain acts are sinful. Each and every life (plants, animals etc) has come to this world, to do "sadhana"(efforts), to get better life and finally get "moksha". Whenever such "sadhana" opportunity is cut short, it becomes sin. For plants there is no much "sadhana". They can not do any kind of physical or mental activities, in terms of "sadhana". So by cutting them, we are not doing many harms to their "sadhana" or reducing their opportunity for "sadhana". So it is not sinful. But animals can do a good amount of "sadhana" by means of physical and / or mental activities. By killing them, we are cutting short their opportunities to do "sadhana" towards moksha. So it is more sinful. To support this aspect further, "suicide" is considered as biggest sin, even though no one else is troubled other than the self, because God has given us this wonderful body and mind to do "sadhana" towards moksha and by rejecting this offer or by cutting short this "sadhana", we are insulting God and betraying him. So it is highly sinful. There is another example in "Sasthra". Suppose there is a very very old man, incapable of doing any physical and mental activities. Then he can enter to fire to end his life. That is not sin because he can not do any more "sadhana" by himself or through others. So in general any act which is cutting short others or self "sadhana", it is considered as sin. and vegetarians are doing less sin. Q.2) We were thinking that only human beings, having 'thinking power' can only do "sadhana" and other animals can not. Is it not true? How animals can do "sadhana"? SWAMIJI: It is not true. All animals can also do "sadhana". Otherwise there is a fundamental problem in the system. If animals can not do "sadhana", they can not get better life, namely human life. If they can not get human life, then they can not get "moksha" at all at any time. This is not true and so it is proved that animals also do "sadhana" and get better life. They do 'sadhana' by their mental activities. We can see lot of difference in the behavior of animals. In the same category say cat, dog or cow, we can see lot of difference like some are soft, some are sensitive, some are more active etc. This is due to their mental "sadhana". Also in kids who are not having any thinking power, we are seeing lot of differences. We have seen a kid, in Bombay, around 2 years old. It loves Krishna like anything. While sleeping, it tightly hugs Krishna idol; does not drink milk without offering to Krishna; always want to listen to Krishna's story; always wants to witness Krishna Pooja. It is really surprising. It is all due to previous "samskara". Like that animals also will have previous samskara and "sadhana". Q. 3) Is it true that in olden days, sages used to eat meat? There is an incident of 'Agasthya' eating meat in " Vathapi - Ilvala" story. SWAMIJI: Yes, we can see some mention about such things in very old stories. We need to understand clearly why and under what circumstances they used to consume meat. Firstly they used to take meat, not as their regular food. The animal would be offered to 'yajna', the sacred fire and then the sages, having high yogic power would consume the meat as prasad of the yajna. Due to this auspicious activity, the animal would go to heaven. In the story of 'Augusthya', when he said ' Vathapi jirno bhava', he got digested immediately. Such was the power in those days. But now meat is not approved to Brahmins. First we need to understand why we consume food. It is to have good health. Health means not only the physical health. The mental health plays a very important role. That's why in Sanskrit it is known as "swasthya" means mental peace, purity and health. Meat or non-vegetarian food improves body and but not the mind. So for those people, who need to have physical strength, like solders, meat is not prohibited. Solders need not have any thinking power. They have to fight like machines. But for Brahmins, mental power is more important. We need to have peace and purity of mind, stability and concentration of mind. So for us meat is prohibited. Since ages our ancestors were having vegetarian food and so Brahmins are generally considered as soft, kind hearted, stable and intelligent people. If we start consuming meat, slowly we will loose all these good qualities. We will not see the changes overnight. It takes time and we will see the changes in the later generations. Q. 4) There are many noble laureates who are meat eaters. What we can say for that? SWAMIJI: Getting a noble prize is not at all a yardstick to measure the peace and purity, stability and concentration of mind. It is known that suicide rate is high in scientists too. Actually scientists are more disturbed in their mind. Due to this, they get activated and get involved deeply in something and come out with some new things. For their success, the basic reason is not the peaceful mind, but disturbed mind. Generally Brahmins who is suppose to have the mental capacity to understand ' Brahma', need to have very good concentration power for 'japa' and 'tapa'. and they are supposed to be mentally not disturbed people. In olden days even if they consume meat, they used to keep up their mental stability and peace of mind, due to their yogic power or 'thapas'. But now in 'Kaliyuga', as such our mental powers and concentration powers are getting reduced. We are loosing our purity and peace of mind due to various reasons. As such the 'satvic' atmosphere and 'satvic' qualities are reducing because we are not doing enough 'japa', 'tapa' etc. So if we start consuming meat we will loose all our good mental qualities soon. So in 'kaliyuga', meat is strictly prohibited for Brahmins. It is also sinful as said in previous answers. Q. 5) Is it not sin to kill silkworms for silk and deer's for 'krishnaa-jina'? SWAMIJI : Short answer is it is sin if we do for trading purpose. For detailed answer, first we need to understand what sin is. It is not a substance associated with a particular activity. The same activity can be resulted in sin or not depending upon the purpose, intention and circumstance. For e.g. killing in general is sin, but killing a demon or man hunter is not sin. Similarly in olden days kings used to go for hunting. It was not sin because they used to kill only those wild animals, which are troublesome to the sages and the nearby villagers. Similarly if we kill animal to avoid being killed, it is not sin. As said earlier, every creature in this world is for doing "sadhana". Here the priority is for those doing greater "sadhana". To accomplish that, if others have to sacrifice their "sadhana", there is no harm in that. For e.g.: Assume that there are two students in a house, One if preparing for second grade and other one preparing for Medical exam. Though both are preparing for their exams, we consider that medical exam is more important and give preference to him. If needed, we may ask the other to sacrifice his preparation, because he doesn't lose much. Similarly in this world, "jivi" doing higher order of "sadhana", gets preference. So for the benefit of that, others with little "sadhana" may be sacrificed without any sin. So if we are preparing silk for God's pooja, then it is not sin. But if we are preparing silk for decorating ourselves, it is sin. So we need to understand what is the purpose of the act and what we are going achieve finally. http://www.salagram.net/PSM-veg.htm

Everything God does is divya/divine. Maya does not affect Him. He is the master of Maya. Those who find faults in God are Nastik and not worthy of worshipping any deity whatsoever. Such a persons mind becomes cursed and all bad comes their way. God bless the intellingence of such aasuri souls.

The body is not always satvik like the temple. So to rely on the body is not always the best. Thats why we have temples.

Jai Shri krishna. Thanks for the Tulsi seeds yajnavalkya dasa. i got them in the post and have planted them. Soon they will grow. God bless. Jai Shri Krishna Jai Shri Swaminarayan

Jai Shri Krishna You are more than welcome to come pray at pur mandir. Are you in Uk?

Then one of the devotees asked : What is Maya? Shriji Maharaj said, ‘‘One which obstructs the mind in the meditational worship of God is called ‘Maya’.

Akshar cannot be worshipped alongside Purshottam. Also Sadguru Gunatitanand Swami was not Akshar. He was Sanat incarnate. Mul Akshar was Sadguru Gopalanand Swami.This is clearly within the scriptures.

Like i said it wasnt always unethical.But in this day and age it is adharm as well as illegal.

Shri Swaminarayan also stated that the sun illuminates the stars and the rest of the Brahmaand.