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GREAT there you go. Hold on to this. Something we both agree on. Take it this way, YOU YOURSELF ARE NOT SURE IF THEY ARE ALIENS OR PARANOIA. How does this thread bother you and make you post a reply saying the aliens are not true? Do you like the aliens? I know you will say no. THEN HOW IS THIS THREAD AFFECTING YOU and MADE YOU REPLY? I am posting this thread, for many reasons. One is for research. Other is if someone else like me encountered the same, they can follow these tactics. They can get my idea and try them if they dont know what to do. To beleive in Sanathana Dharma, practice it and see the results. By experience i know it is the perfect solution. Whatever force it is, it is evil, it fears Sanathana Dharma, it wants to wipe it out. I do not do the research for money. Why are you interested in telling the aliens are fake. IF THE ALIENS ARE FAKE NOBODY IS GOING TO BE MISLEAD OR MISGUIDED BY READING MY POSTS. But if the aliens are real, THEN YOU ARE CERTAINLY DOING AN ADHARMIC ACT OF MISGUIDING. I am sure you being a mortal also do not know whether they are true or not if you have not yet encountered them.

According to Dr. Karla Turner,who worked with over 400 alien abduction cases, the phenomenon includes some of the following details: - Aliens can alter our perceptions of our surroundings. - Aliens can control what we think we see. They can appear to us in any number of guises and shapes. - Aliens can take us--our consciousness- -out of our physical bodies, disable our control of our bodies, install one of their own entities, and use our bodies as vehicles for their own activities before returning our consciousness to our bodies. - Aliens can be present with us in an invisible state and can make themselves only partially visible. - Female abductees often suffer serious gynaecological problems after alien encounters, and sometimes these problems lead to cysts, tumours, cancer of the breast and uterus, and to hysterectomies. - A surprising number of abductees suffer from serious illnesses they didn’t have before their encounters. These have led to surgery, debilitation, and even death from causes doctors cannot identify. - Aliens ‘perform’ extremely painful experiments or procedures on abductees, saying that these acts are necessary but give no explanation why. Painful genital and anal probes are performed, on children as well as adults. Dr. Turner says that: In every instance from this [abridged] list, there are multiple reports from unrelated cases, confirming that such bizarre details are not the product of a single deranged mind. These details are convincing evidence that, contrary to the claims of many UFO researchers, the abduction experience isn’t limited to uniform pattern of events. This phenomenon simply can’t be explained in terms of cross-breeding experiments or scientific research into the human physiology... Before we allow ourselves to believe in the benevolence of the alien interaction, we should ask, do enlightened beings need to use the cover of night to perform good deeds? Do they need to paralyse us and render us helpless to resist? Do angels need to steal our fetuses? Do they need to manipulate our children’s genitals and probe our rectums? Are fear, pain, and deception consistent with high spiritual motives?

I call it Hindustan. You call it Bharat or India. Its an individual's wish. I dont beleive it has anything to do with the mughals. This is not a relevant subject in this topic. Perhaps you can create a different thread. But then also i dont have to give a logical explanation for this small issue. Its an individual's wish. Dont worry about bowing down to the mughals. It was the past. Please read: Whatever happened, happened for the good; whatever is happening, is happening for the good; whatever will happen, will also happen for the good only. You need not have any regrets for the past. You need not worry for the future. The present is happening...

England is also called Great Britain, Britain(The British can call it Britain and someone questions them?), United Kingdom, etc. It is quite puzzling me since your profile says you are in UK and you call it England and you bring up this issue of different names. Is this important? I like to call my land Hindustan. You can call it India. You can call it Bharat. What you are posting here in this thread is not relevant. Authority? Logic? Its an individual's wish. You dont have to mention this, i already gave a logical explanation for that. Here it is:

I explained this before and i am explaining it again. I also explained this clearly in the beginning of this thread. UFO research isnt something new. I have provided links to information about a host of UFO researchers with Ph.D, doing the same research with similar claims. CAN ALL OF THE UFO RESEARCHERS BE PARANOID AND MENTALLY SICK? With this fact provided, posters attempting to criticize even after reading the information is a clear proof of brainwashing attempt.

The greatness of Sanathana Dharma Tell me what Sanathana Dharma lacks in? It has everything. Vedas, Astrology, puranas, everything. The realisation of eternal soul. I realised it, i learnt the concept of Sanathana Dharma. I am greatly satisfied with this. I dont expect more or ask for more in this material world.

So you mean Sanathana Dharma is NOT a cure for this? Sorry i dont agree with you, neither heed to your words. If i have a problem i am tackling it my own way, by the way i DONT EVEN CONSIDER IT AS A PROBLEM ANYMORE. I learnt the truth. The truth about Sanathana Dharma. Its greatness. Its power. The concept of PARAMATHMA. I dont worry about anything. Hope you also dont worry.

By analysing the replies to my posts in this thread it is clearly EVIDENT that their posts are CLEARLY intended to damage my personhood, and make anyone who is READING this information BELEIVE i am a PSYCHO and nobody should consider this information factual. That is why i planned and made their information and tactics go public and created this thread in a very tactical manner. This thread is a clear PROOF of what is happening. The grey aliens exist, and they operate in the cover of dark. When anyone finds the truth about them, they make them walk the adharmic path, murder those who refuse their path or make them a "PSYCHO" to make others beleive that they do not exist. By this way we do not know how many are actually abducted. Each one thinks to be "normal" they should not disclose their experiences. Everyone is afraid of criticisms. I know about the Grey Aliens, i know they are true, i know they are planning to wipe out Sanathana Dharma, because they FEAR Sanathana Dharma. Brahma is the Creator, Vishnu is the Protector and Shiva the Destroyer. All the puranas, vedas and everything tell the truth, NOTHING but the truth. It has been true all along. The rise of Christianity and other relegions greatly suppressed these truths. When i try to bring this out, the aliens desperetely want to sabotage my reputation, so whatever i tell is discredited. When the aliens threatened to kill me, i USED astrology to tackle them. I was guided by a skillful relegious astrologer, who told me my life depends on the position of celestial bodies and my karma. By following his guidance i was able to effectively tackle these grey aliens. Now the grey aliens cannot kill me like they killed the other UFO researchers. http://www.indiadivine.org/audarya/hinduism/451591-takeover-mind-psychic-biological-warfare.html

Gokulkr, I would like to know about the historical origin of Pancha Mugha Anjaneyar. Thanks.

I see this topic was discussed before http://www.indiadivine.org/audarya/spiritual-discussions/36692-hanuman-incarnation-shiva-vayu.html The answer is unknown, nor it is clearly mentioned in the scriptures. I read all the possibilities and i beleive Hanuman to be an incarnation of Lord Shiva. I dont know about north, but here in the South India people dont worship Hanuman in their houses. But here also beleifs may differ. Also Lord Shiva is Worshipped only by going to Temples, not at home.

The best way of Worshipping Hanuman is worshipping him in a Temple. Hanuman being an avatar of the Great Lord Shiva, should be worshipped by going to a temple like how Lord Shiva is worshipped. I am not sure of how pancha mugha anjaneyar should be worshipped.

The grey aliens are desperetely involved in wiping out Sanathana Dharma. Sanathana Dharma is the only one standing between them and their complete takeover of humanity. It does not matter to them whether you are a Hindu or you are a Christian. They look at you just like how a butcherer looks at his animals. Grey Aliens have no values, they do not understand human values. The Stampede at the Durga Temple in Rajastan was done by the grey aliens. The attacks against the Christians in Orissa was done by the orchestration of grey aliens. They used psychic, biological warfare, massive mind control etc to accomplish it. The primary reason of these two events is to create "Hatred" against sanathana dharma. Many such events are planned for the future by the grey aliens to wipe out Sanathana Dharma.

This thread is a very good example of what i actually meant. There is a lot of information on the internet about Aliens, UFO research and so on. Here is an article about the mysterious deaths of UFO researchers. http://www.philschn eider.org/ articles/ is_someone_ killing.html http://www.aliencro ssing.com/ the-mysterious- deaths-of- ufo-researchers/ Whether they are killed by aliens or not is not evident but the fact that UFO researchers have a shorter life span is no co incidence. The aliens are desperetely trying to cover their truth. My point was very clear. I, having encountered these aliens, know they are true. Others who encounter fear criticism or they are threatened by the aliens and does not disclose it. Others opt the adharmic way of life and do what they say. I found this information by doing research. There are other points i CLEARLY provided like Gary Mc Kinnon, Astrology, Laghima, etc. HAS ANYONE OF THE POSTERS ADDRESSED THESE ISSUES? All i see is trolling and MAKING PERSONAL INSULTS. Aslo the last post was completely irrelevent to this thread. The way how my posts were addressed, and how i addressed others posts can be seen. I provided information. Others provided nothing but trolling and personal insults. All these indicate deceit, evasion, misdirection, manipulation, exploitation and total disregard for human values,etc. So the TRUE SEEKER can see what i am trying to publicize here. I am not afraid of criticisms. If everybody fears and does what the aliens say then they gain complete control over humanity.

I call my land Hindustan. I am aware of other names. There is nothing to sort out here.

Ok if so then let it be.

Christianity is a religion spread very rapidly to different parts of the world. But i see nothing about their teachings except deceit, evasion, misdirection, manipulation, exploitation etc. Humans simply find it easy and attractive to follow. If someone hears that their sins will simply be forgiven, they want to commit sins and ask for forgiveness. If this concept is taught to the young kids in Christian schools etc, their idea of Sanathana Dharma is totally erased. I see that this is exactly the root cause of why people are reluctant and find sanathana dharma difficult to follow. However i can also say that it is the attitude of the people itself getting attracted towards the adharmic way of life that tends to strip off their attitude of abiding by sanathana dharma inspite of the Christian influence.

Nope the concept of "sin forgiveness" was introduced by Christians. People involve in adharmic acts and go to temples to pray to Gods to forgive their sins and give offerings. This is not the way of Sanathana Dharma. Sins will never be forgived for the soul is eternal. There is no concept of Sanathana Dharma that sins will simply be forgiven by just going to temple and praying to God. The Sanathana dharma way of life was greatly influenced and still being influenced by other relegions. Mingling the preachings of different relegions does nothing more than erasing the true concept of our own and permanently changing the attitude of Hindus towards their own way of life. How i view the situation, as humans if we really beleive in Sanathana Dharma, then never involve in adharmic activities. Also do what we can to prevent others from involving in such activities. Then if we go to temple, our eternal soul will be greatly identified by our Gods than those going to wash their sins. That much we can do in Kaeli Yuga. We can do more if the opportunity arises.

I asked this question to my astrologer: What if a baby can be taken out with syserian delivery at a particular time and date which is very favourable for the life of that person pre determined using astrology. For this he told that already a few people have come to him regarding this, and he did mark the best time for the baby to be taken out to see the world. But everytime that was attempted, there has been some difficulty like the power goes off, or the doctors get some other important work and so on. So the time of birth and the fate of the child could not be manipulated. Just felt interesting. Any views on this subject?

Many UFO researchers have the following common information regarding the aliens:

This is correct, at least in my case. The internet has both false information and the truth, just like this thread. There are sites explaining the puranas, from which i learnt them, out of my own interest. The TRUE SEEKER will perceive the truth when he sees it. Also transcending the negativity is a challenge. Perfect. Thats the way exaclty how i view the situation.

Lord Vishnu also resides on Sesha. The greatness of Lord Vishnu, the protector of the universe, cannot be explained in words. Thanks for the explanation in the puranas.

The laws should me made more stringent against ANY act that tries to wipe out Hinduism. For example if westeners come here to "convert" Hindus, then a bill must be passed that such people who opt for conversion must leave the country and go along with them. Action must be taken by the government about those spreading false information and doing illegal conversions. This will never pave the way for any scandal like the one occured in Orissa.

First of all commercialising Hinduism is not at all fair. I see people try to spread Hinduism all for one purpose - commercial. To make money. I see an ad on the television which sells the pancha mugha anjeneyar to the public. This is absolutely wrong. Sanaathana Dharma should not be "spread" or forced on anyone. Then it becomes a "Relegion"(like other relegions) and its greatness cannot be realised. Those who follow Sanaathana Dharma do it for the goodness of their eternal soul. Hinduism is not a relegion, those who follow Sanathana Dharma do it for their own eternal peaceful way of life. 1. Astrology practiced correctly helps to avoid the miseries in life. Also one can analyse their problems and worship the respective God who can help save them from the evil wrath of fate. This will surely help in one leading a selfless life full of confidence. 2. Yoga when practiced correctly, helps to lead a healthy and peaceful life. How i perceive the situation today in Kaeli Yuga, people of Hindustan do not realise the concept of eternal soul. The attitude of people is such that they only have one life, all they have to do is enjoy it by any means necessary. With this attitude hardly anyone has even the time to think about God, Paramathma or anything. Hindustan has been the greatest land in the past and the truth has been greatly suppressed by evil forces of Kaeli Yuga. Simple example is ancient Hindus did know about the planets and the sun. The westeners found it out and established it only in Kaeli Yuga. And they criticize us and called us "barbarians".

I am a Hindu by birth living in Hindustan. I used to attend training in my training academy for becoming a seaman. That time while travelling by bus, i saw a girl, STARING at me. Its eyes were large and unusual. I never knew her before, and i turned aside and looked at her again, with her eyes staring at me again. It was unusual for me, and i found her trying to make me love her. She was strange, her body was very weird, her face was large, her hair was long, her body was unusually very thin and child like. Her back side, was very weird in a non human shape. Her face looks like this: http://img153.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hybridgrayalienfn4.jpg But she dressed as a normal human being and she was living as a normal human. She was doing her dentistry and she is a Christian, i know nothing more about her that time. Also i had no knowledge about aliens at that time. I started to have a feeling of pity on her after seeing her trying to impress me. But she never gave away her dignity. After i showed interest in her, she insulted me several times and it was really IRRITATING and mind itching. Then i found all my friends sending sms to me in a strange way. I first thought this girl was sending sms to me through my friends. It should be noted that the friends who I know in college sent the same sms as the friends whom I know from my training academy. This was a little bit strange, but I thought she had contacted all of my friends to know about me. It was totally misleading and untrustworthy. Being an egoistic personality i am, i could not take it anymore. I threw that girl, i told all the friends who sent sms to keep away. But they were intent in seducing me again. My friends ditching me for something i do not know and want to act in such a way that is treacherous and demonic to make me fall for the seduction again. I even manhandled one of my friends and told him not to do that. he was talking he had no idea about what i am talking about and he does not know any girl that was trying to contact me through him. I and he were working on a ship and once a manhole was unusually left open after our work there. Nobody knows who left it open. Several such incidents happened hoping to threaten me. I even sustained a minor finger injury intended to scare me. Also once on land i was driving a motorcyle, and i had a skid on the road even though i was driving very slowly. All these strange events, and still i dont intend to fall for this abduction. I am brave and every night i get paralysis of my hands and neck. But i did find a way to counteract this. I put my paralysed hand on my mid section and the paralysis would decrease which otherwise would take a long time after regaining conciousness. Sometimes i have had some very painful times after when i am awake, that i have lost all my memory. I wouldnt call it an out of body experience though. It was something intended to manipulate my memory or to create an illusion that i will die and they can take my mind out if i dont do what they say. But still i never intend to fall for their seduction. Scary and deadly dreams and many more. Clearly the abducting aliens want to abduct my friends and send messages to me and irritate me like before. But since i dont give in to it, they are adopting these tactics to make me fall again. Eveything is done in a COVERT way and there is no physical evidence of these crimes. If I ask the people involved who is this girl, they would turn very angry and ask “ARE YOU A PSYCHO?”. This is a method of suppressing the truth about the aliens. Then I started researching the internet to learn and find out what is happening to me. I found this: Also the following explains the girl I encountered. She was a Human-Grey hybrid created by the grey aliens to infiltrate human society to easily achieve their goals. But now I tackle the victims in a different way. I sent mails to all of my friends involved about the grey aliens and quoted the above sites to them. Then I told them they are taken by aliens and that is why they have sent such sms and behaved crazy. I also quoted all the crazy sms sent by them. Then guess what is their take? None of them replied after that. Even if I meet them, they will clearly avoid the topic on aliens. By experience i have found that people having a kind heart and a high ego and truthful can never be abducted. But whereas people with cunning attitude fall an easy prey. Sure i see it as a GOOD Vs EVIL, and i chose Good. There are issues about Hindu to Christian conversions in India, and I see these grey aliens are directly involved. I do not offend the Christians in India, but their “mission” of converting Hindus. Please be advised I am after the cause and not the victims. I learnt that these Grey aliens are DESPERETELY trying to SUPPRESS FREE WILL, wipe out Hinduism and Sanathana Dharma, because the Hindu way of life does not aid in their activities. The Westeners do not understand the true motive of the Grey aliens. Some give into alien abductions and their biological experiments willingly. The aliens are surviving under the illusion of criticism. This thread can be followed by criticisms to SUPPRESS the truth. This is exactly how they cover up their activities. Many people claim to be abducted in the west, just like me BUT THEY HAVE NO PROOF and nobody considers it factual. I have been tortured both mentally and physically by these aliens. But all I believe is in Sanathana Dharma. I will not take the path of adharma, that attitude of mine makes me live peacefully inspite of their irritations. So let this thread be an act of awareness for those of you Hindus who may encounter something similar to mine. <o:p></o:p>