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Old 02-26-2006, 04:53 PM   #1

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Lingam and we were the little baby lingams waiting to hatch. He looked visibly
stressed, His head bending down touching the table and body slumping forward.
He started shaking and trembling as we sang Shiva bhajans with all our Heart
and Soul. Right before the Lingam emerged I positioned my eyeglasses, extending
them out a bit like binoculars, which magnified Him even further. Then Like the
Cosmos giving birth the lingam sky rocketed out of His Divine mouth. I could
clearly see a stream of golden Light as it issued forth. He held up what looked
like a piece of the sun, brilliant, translucent, golden Lingam. Swami kept
showing the Lingam, going into the crowds of devotees holding the Lingam up,
for all to wonder in awe. He then returned to the veranda. Our beloved Swami
blessed a couple who have been residents of the ashram doing amazing service for
Sai Avatar. Mr. and Mrs Paramahansa. He announced that he had
deposited 1 lakh, in an account for about 60 orphans whom this blessed couple
was taking care of. Swami interacted with the boys promising to always take
care of them as their Mother and Father. The boys spoke a few words and also
sang for Bhagawan. Prasad was then distributed, spicy rice on banana leaves.
Right now I am in the highest heaven and need to get some rest. JAI SAI RAM to
all. More later. Lots of Prema sonya ki

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Lingam and we were the little baby lingams waiting to hatch. He looked visibly
stressed, His head bending down touching the table and body slumping forward.
He started shaking and trembling as we sang Shiva bhajans with all our Heart
and Soul. Right before the Lingam emerged I positioned my eyeglasses, extending
them out a bit like binoculars, which magnified Him even further. Then Like the
Cosmos giving birth the lingam sky rocketed out of His Divine mouth. I could
clearly see a stream of golden Light as it issued forth. He held up what looked
like a piece of the sun, brilliant, translucent, golden Lingam. Swami kept
showing the Lingam, going into the crowds of devotees holding the Lingam up,
for all to wonder in awe. He then returned to the veranda. Our beloved Swami
blessed a couple who have been residents of the ashram doing amazing service for
Sai Avatar. Mr. and Mrs Paramahansa. He announced that he had
deposited 1 lakh, in an account for about 60 orphans whom this blessed couple
was taking care of. Swami interacted with the boys promising to always take
care of them as their Mother and Father. The boys spoke a few words and also
sang for Bhagawan. Prasad was then distributed, spicy rice on banana leaves.
Right now I am in the highest heaven and need to get some rest. JAI SAI RAM to
all. More later. Lots of Prema sonya ki


The Lingam is symbolic of the Divine Creative manifestation. The Lingam shape is representative of the power of Shiva, the Lord of Creation, the masculine creative energy. The markings symbolize the feminine energy, the seed which is fertilized to manifest the creative power in the dance of the cosmos.

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This Shiva is God Stuff is Bogus.

Lord Shiva is the Brother of the Kumaras & Narada etc.

When Lord Brahma passes away --so will all pass away by merging back into MAhaVisnu's Breathing.

The Hiarchy of the Descendants of Lord Brahma Maha-pita-ma [Great Grand Father] of the Celestial "Demi-gods" is known.

Shiva is Brahma's Son.

Shiva & Brahma are Jiva-atmas.
Visnu is a 'plenary expansion' of God in the Material Worlds.

But don't let me dissuade you from pursuing your passion.

Your evident devotion will bring you to the service of Mahesh's other more-seasoned servants in due time.

Since Lord Shiva is a Vaishnava without equal then we must invoke his protection from maya & her illusory spells and her servants too.


PS: This is impersonal: "The Lingam is symbolic of the Divine Creative manifestation. The Lingam shape is representative of the power of Shiva, the Lord of Creation, the masculine creative energy. The markings symbolize the feminine energy, the seed which is fertilized to manifest the creative power in the dance of the cosmos."

2) I do not have any faith in YOU. Let me be specific. I do not think you are sincere in your propaganda! That is why I do not have any faith in YOU.
I feel that you are seeking fame, adoration and distinction in a field that you have just recently become acquinted with. Lord Shiva is a Hare Krishna--did you know that?

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This Shiva is God Stuff is Bogus.

Lord Shiva is the Brother of the Kumaras & Narada etc.

When Lord Brahma passes away --so will all pass away by merging back into MAhaVisnu's Breathing.

The Hiarchy of the Descendants of Lord Brahma Maha-pita-ma [Great Grand Father] of the Celestial "Demi-gods" is known.

Shiva is Brahma's Son.

Shiva & Brahma are Jiva-atmas.
Visnu is a 'plenary expansion' of God in the Material Worlds.

But don't let me dissuade you from pursuing your passion.

Your evident devotion will bring you to the service of Mahesh's other more-seasoned servants in due time.

Since Lord Shiva is a Vaishnava without equal then we must invoke his protection from maya & her illusory spells and her servants too.


PS: This is impersonal: "The Lingam is symbolic of the Divine Creative manifestation. The Lingam shape is representative of the power of Shiva, the Lord of Creation, the masculine creative energy. The markings symbolize the feminine energy, the seed which is fertilized to manifest the creative power in the dance of the cosmos."

2) I do not have any faith in YOU. Let me be specific. I do not think you are sincere in your propaganda! That is why I do not have any faith in YOU.
I feel that you are seeking fame, adoration and distinction in a field that you have just recently become acquinted with. Lord Shiva is a Hare Krishna--did you know that?


Bhaktajan I feel you are a Confused Misguided child without a Universal consciousness

How many time you fool ask the same question in every thread ok where is your back up no is willing to fight on your behalf

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This Shiva is God Stuff is Bogus.

Lord Shiva is the Brother of the Kumaras & Narada etc.

When Lord Brahma passes away --so will all pass away by merging back into MAhaVisnu's Breathing.

The Hiarchy of the Descendants of Lord Brahma Maha-pita-ma [Great Grand Father] of the Celestial "Demi-gods" is known.

Shiva is Brahma's Son.

Shiva & Brahma are Jiva-atmas.
Visnu is a 'plenary expansion' of God in the Material Worlds.

But don't let me dissuade you from pursuing your passion.

Your evident devotion will bring you to the service of Mahesh's other more-seasoned servants in due time.

Since Lord Shiva is a Vaishnava without equal then we must invoke his protection from maya & her illusory spells and her servants too.


PS: This is impersonal: "The Lingam is symbolic of the Divine Creative manifestation. The Lingam shape is representative of the power of Shiva, the Lord of Creation, the masculine creative energy. The markings symbolize the feminine energy, the seed which is fertilized to manifest the creative power in the dance of the cosmos."

2) I do not have any faith in YOU. Let me be specific. I do not think you are sincere in your propaganda! That is why I do not have any faith in YOU.
I feel that you are seeking fame, adoration and distinction in a field that you have just recently become acquinted with. Lord Shiva is a Hare Krishna--did you know that?


I really feel pity for your state. Indeed you have been brainwashed perfectly by your peers. Fool, where are you looking for god and what are you trying to prove? Have you tried to know yourself first or wasting your time in brandishing others to be a perfect Missionary. That pure conciousness is within you, your Pundarika, his Shiva, our Brahman, everything. Go into yourself. Realise now. Find the truth for yourself. Not in the Books.

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......Hereafter the gunavatars are being introduced.

By the action of the mode of goodness, the Master of the milk ocean, Shri Vishnu, maintains the universe. By the action of the mode of passion, the universe is created by Lord Brahma, who is generated from the lotus flower arisen from Garbhodasayi Vishnu's navel. In some kalpas, a jiva (living entity) who has amassed profuse piety takes the position of Lord Brahma and creates the universe. In this instance, due to the infusion of the Lord's potency in that jiva, he is referred to as an avesavatar. Because in that Brahma there is a connection with the mode of passion, he cannot be compared on a equal footing with Lord Vishnu. In those kalpas when there is an absence of any qualified jiva to take up the position of Lord Brahma, then Lord Vishnu Himself becomes Lord Brahma. Similarly, during some manvantaras, the incarnation of the Lord as Yagya has to take up the position of Lord Indra. During that manvantara when Yagya becomes Indra and during that kalpa when Vishnu becomes Brahma, then it can be said that they (Brahma and Indra) attain equality with Lord Vishnu.

The gross body of Brahma, consisting of the total material substance (the aggregate of the universal form of material nature, extending from Patala up to Satyaloka), is also known as Brahma. Hiranyagarbha, Who is manifested within that gross body as subtle living entities, is also known as Brahma. The indwelling soul therein, the second purusha, Garbhodasayi, is Iswar, the Supreme Controller. He Who is the destroyer, by the action of the mode of ignorance is Lord Siva. The indwelling purusha within the Universal Form as well as the subtle form of the Creator, Hiranyagarbha, Who is the super excellent controller born of the lotus flower, have both been referred to as Brahma. This Brahma also accepts the form of Siva for the purpose of destruction. During some kalpas very pious jivas attain this position whereas in others, Lord Vishnu Himself accepts the position of Lord Siva. However, the personality of Sadasiva, is a plenary portion (vilas-vigraha: as distinct from svamsa expansions which are endowed with a smaller degree of potency from the original Godhead) of the self-same form of the Supreme Lord, Shri Krishna, and He is transcendental to the three modes of material nature. It is from Him that the gunavatar of Siva is expanded. Therefore He should be understood to be superior to Brahma, equal to Lord Vishnu, and entirely separate from jivas, who are influenced by the material modes of nature.......

Dear devotees of Amma, please accept my simple obiesances and well wishes. I met you dear one (Amma) in Australia this year...I received her loving embrace and kindly kiss on my forehead...I was truly blessed by her loving presence and received loving healing and deeper vision. Thank you Maa for your loving kindness!

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This Shiva is God Stuff is Bogus.

Lord Shiva is the Brother of the Kumaras & Narada etc.

When Lord Brahma passes away --so will all pass away by merging back into MAhaVisnu's Breathing.

The Hiarchy of the Descendants of Lord Brahma Maha-pita-ma [Great Grand Father] of the Celestial "Demi-gods" is known.

Shiva is Brahma's Son.

Shiva & Brahma are Jiva-atmas.
Visnu is a 'plenary expansion' of God in the Material Worlds.

But don't let me dissuade you from pursuing your passion.

Your evident devotion will bring you to the service of Mahesh's other more-seasoned servants in due time.

Since Lord Shiva is a Vaishnava without equal then we must invoke his protection from maya & her illusory spells and her servants too.


PS: This is impersonal: "The Lingam is symbolic of the Divine Creative manifestation. The Lingam shape is representative of the power of Shiva, the Lord of Creation, the masculine creative energy. The markings symbolize the feminine energy, the seed which is fertilized to manifest the creative power in the dance of the cosmos."

2) I do not have any faith in YOU. Let me be specific. I do not think you are sincere in your propaganda! That is why I do not have any faith in YOU.
I feel that you are seeking fame, adoration and distinction in a field that you have just recently become acquinted with. Lord Shiva is a Hare Krishna--did you know that?

The stuff you say doesn't apply to Sri Sadashiva residing above the division of the Viraja river. I hope you know this.

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Lord Shiva is a Hare Krishna--did you know that?
And Radharani (Shiva Bhakta, Shiva Bhakti Daa) and Rama are Shaivas. Get over yourself.

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To each his own slice of fruit cake:
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Bhaktajan
you are without a Universal consciousness
no is willing to fight on your behalf --Yes, Sensei.

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Brainwashed Institutional Child, you have been brainwashed,
where are you looking for god, Find the truth for yourself.
Not in the Books --So bogus; DON"T SHOW ME THE SASTRA.

Go get married in a California Forest while is still in vogue, flake;
Oh, is that someone else's argument?

Institutional Child? You got that right Oh Simple one!

Find the truth for yourself?
I am your Guru and here's my edict to you:
You're a punk without a compass and you know it.
But at least you will be very good at it --I can sense these things from your insipid propaganda.
Go look up insipid--it may lead you to self-realization.
Hint: Leave a trail of crumbs on the way there.


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The stuff you say doesn't apply to Sri Sadashiva
residing above the division of the Viraja river --
SHOW ME THE SASTRA KID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SHOW ME THE SASTRA KID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SHOW ME THE SASTRA KID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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the personality of Sadasiva, is a plenary portion of Shri Krishna,
It is from Him that the gunavatar of Siva is expanded.
--I have shortened this sentence--it proves what I have been saying:
Sadasiva, is a plenary portion of Shri Krishna.
Any one who accepts a Demigod as equal to Krishna is
simply, simply, simply a covered Atheist.

Since you won't accept 'who your daddy is' --My advise is
you better worship any Deva you can think of to heal that
wounded child in side of you.

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And Radharani and Rama are Shaivas --So bogus. Stop being shameless!
Shamelessness means offending authorities, decorum, propriety.

I accept the Devas as is explained in the Srimad-bhagavatam.

I don't require non-Vaishnavas to crash the party to announce that a new Host has re-defined who is being celebrated.

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Radha Rani worshipped Ganesh and Durga in her home. So she is a Shakta and a Ganapatya. Rama worshipped Surya, so he is a Saurya.

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You are trying to challenge me, Bhaktajan prabhuji? You think I can't come up with the sastric evidence. Not so! It is in Brhad Bhagavatamrita volume 2. Check it out. Mahesh dhama is above the Viraja river and is therefore above the world of birth and death.
Note- this is again refering to Lord Sadashiva, not Rudra (the expansion of Lord Sadashiva).
Yes, I know I am only 14 so you think I am making things up but I am simply repeating what Srila Sanatana Goswami has taught me. I hope you don't kill me for that.

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So you are both 14 bhaktajan and indulekhadasi. Let a priest check your horoscope, maybe there's potential for a marriage.

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Yeah! THE SASTRA KID !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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You are trying to challenge me, Bhaktajan prabhuji? You think I can't come up with the sastric evidence. Not so! It is in Brhad Bhagavatamrita volume 2. Check it out. Mahesh dhama is above the Viraja river and is therefore above the world of birth and death.
Note- this is again refering to Lord Sadashiva, not Rudra (the expansion of Lord Sadashiva).
Yes, I know I am only 14 so you think I am making things up but I am simply repeating what Srila Sanatana Goswami has taught me. I hope you don't kill me for that.

Your chastisements are the best of my happiness.

"refering to Lord Sadashiva, not Rudra"

Think I know what you're referring to.

Und, I'll be back.

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Is this verse in relation to what you are referencing?

SB 11.27.29:
"With offerings such as prokñaëa one should worship Durgä, Vinäyaka, Vyäsa, Viñvaksena, the spiritual masters and the various demigods. All these personalities should be in their proper places facing the Deity of the Lord."


PURPORT

According to Çréla Jéva Gosvämé, the Gaëeça and Durgä mentioned in this verse are not the same personalities present within the material world; rather, they are eternal associates of the Lord in Vaikuëöha.

In this world Gaëeça, the son of Lord Çiva, is famous for awarding financial success, and the goddess Durgä, the wife of Lord Çiva, is famous as the external, illusory potency of the Supreme Lord.

The personalities mentioned here, however, are eternally liberated associates of the Lord who reside in the spiritual sky, beyond the material manifestation.

Çréla Jéva Gosvämé quotes from various Vedic literatures to prove that the name Durgä may also indicate the internal potency of the Lord, who is nondifferent from Him.

The external, or covering, potency of the Lord expands from this original Durgä. The Durgä of the material world, called Mahä-mäyä, assumes the function of bewildering the living entities.

Thus a devotee should not fear becoming polluted by worshiping the Durgä mentioned here, who has the same name as illusion, but rather the devotee must show respect to these eternal servitors of the Supreme Lord in Vaikuëöha.


PS: Volume 2 is a large book--with not too many pictures. You do know that?



Double PS: The name Virajä indicates a marginal position between the spiritual and material worlds, but the Virajä River is not under the control of the material energy. Consequently it is devoid of the three guëas. (CC Madhya 15.172 P)

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