Guest guest Report post Posted February 13, 1999 Friends; Recently, there has occurred some discussion about Shaivite non-dualism and Vedantin non-dualism. Eastern spiritual traditions and mystical traditions generally, cultivate 'unity' experiences of one form or another. How does the path that one seeks influence the possible experiences one may have in the course of seeking? If one follows a Buddhist path, will one's experiences confirm the mystical beliefs of that system? For example, some Zen masters may teach a student that if they experience certain unusual sensations that they should observe these experiences, but not engage them. This will ultimately lead to success in attaining Nirvana. I don't want to go too broad with this question. I am really looking for discussion about how listmembers believe that the form of their approach to spiritual fulfillment influences the nature of how the path of experiencing God/Self unfolds. One more thing. I am interested in how we feel about this question, our own thoughts and ideas. I am not very interested in the kinds of answers than any of us can find in books. We can assume that how any of us feels and believes will have been formed by what we have read, practiced and heard from living authorities. So, if anyone does answer, no academic stuff, foreign terms and so forth. Just heart to heart. Know what I mean? In devotion, Madhya Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 13, 1999 Very nice poem. With your permission, I would like to share this with friends. As for this line below....very true...the enlightened guru tells us that they are but a rudder--the voyage is ultimately ours alone. Love Marcus >Seeking Divine*... is like climbing a hill. >'Tis a 'trek' we make of our own free will. >No one can teach us the 'right' way to go. >Only 'pointing' guidance can they bestow. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 13, 1999 At 09:55 AM 2/13/99 -0800, you wrote: >Madhya Nandi <madhya (AT) mail (DOT) aracnet.com> > >Friends; >How does the path that one seeks influence the possible experiences >one may have in the course of seeking? >I am really looking >for discussion about how listmembers believe that the form of their >approach to spiritual fulfillment influences the nature of how the >path of experiencing God/Self unfolds. Divine* - whatever word 'fits'. Seeking Divine*... is like climbing a hill. 'Tis a 'trek' we make of our own free will. No one can teach us the 'right' way to go. Only 'pointing' guidance can they bestow. Each seeker 'treks'... at our own pace and time. Each decides... what's trivial or sublime. Each chooses... which 'path' she/he will explore. Each chooses... what to heed... what to ignore. Each 'sees'... different 'fauna', 'insects', 'trees'. Each finds... a different sequence of 'keys'. If we 'climb' this 'Hill' on a warm Spring day, we'll 'see' myriad wonders on the way. Climb this 'Mountain' in Summer, Winter, Fall... the wonders 'seen'... won't be like Spring's at all. Some... will 'see truth trees' in full Spring flower. Others note 'trees' with fruit, green and sour. Some... will espy 'trees' laden with ripe fruit. Others... observe 'trees'... after winds uproot. Some... will 'see' 'Caterpillars', 'Slugs' and 'Snails'. Others... observe 'Butterflies', 'Moths' and 'Quails'. Some 'see'... Granite, Porphyry, Limestone, Shale, a few... just Lava... as they quest...'The Grail'. Some... choose the Eastern slope, others the West. Some... believe the North or the South is best. Some... amble along... noting each nuance. A few... 'gain the top'... with a 'conveyance'. But every 'seeker'... who reaches the 'top', will now stand upon... *the exact same spot*. samuel --------------- http://www.users.uniserve.com/~samuel/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
