Guest guest Report post Posted February 5, 1999 Hello Marcus, I'm still at work I can't wait to explore the sites you listed. I'm currently practicing kundalini yoga with chanting and meditation on mantra as my daily sadhana. I'm eager to begin incorporating meditation on the inner sound. It makes sense to me to begin this practice after my daily chanting. Marcus, Thanks again for sharing! all is god, all is sacred, peace to all Sat Nam Larry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 5, 1999 Larry, Got just one more for you...go to http://www.meditationcenter.com This site is just good plain reading allround...ran by a friend of mine, Jim Malloy, it is simple and concise...once you get there, scroll down and click on questions and answers...as you scroll down you will find some great info on this important meditation...Jim tells it better than I ever could. Light Marcus laurence beyer [larbeyer9] Friday, February 05, 1999 9:09 PM Meditation on the inner sound laurence beyer <larbeyer9 Hello Marcus, I'm still at work I can't wait to explore the sites you listed. I'm currently practicing kundalini yoga with chanting and meditation on mantra as my daily sadhana. I'm eager to begin incorporating meditation on the inner sound. It makes sense to me to begin this practice after my daily chanting. Marcus, Thanks again for sharing! all is god, all is sacred, peace to all Sat Nam Larry ------ To from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 6, 1999 Hi everybody, glad to be here! Speaking of the inner sound, can anyone tell me why the sound changes in quality and volume? I've read that there are a number of different ones and I'd guess I've noticed about 5 or 6. I've had constant inner sound for a little over a year and cannot figure out any pattern to the shifts in volume, etc. except that it is louder when I wake up from sleep. Thanks! Holly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 6, 1999 holly, The different, subtler tones that you are hearing are higher vibratory rates(not necessarily higher in tone). When we tune into the inner sound, we initially hear what may be characterized as a droning, humming, or whooshing noise...in time we begin to hear one or more subtler tones...what is happening is that when our essence becomes aquainted with a tone, we hear more refined, yet subtler tones that seem "farther away"...these tones are not new tones, as we possess the very essence of Spanda, the Divine creative pulsation...in other words, you are not hearing new tones, your essence is learning to hear the more subtle tones that have always been there...focus on these subtler tones...go deeper into them...by doing so, your essence with match the resonance of the tones, reveaing even more refined tones and providing you with much grace. Much Light Marcus Holly N. Barrett, Ph.D. [hbarrett] Saturday, February 06, 1999 8:48 AM Re: Meditation on the inner sound hbarrett (Holly N. Barrett, Ph.D.) Hi everybody, glad to be here! Speaking of the inner sound, can anyone tell me why the sound changes in quality and volume? I've read that there are a number of different ones and I'd guess I've noticed about 5 or 6. I've had constant inner sound for a little over a year and cannot figure out any pattern to the shifts in volume, etc. except that it is louder when I wake up from sleep. Thanks! Holly ------ To from this mailing list, or to change your subscription to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 7, 1999 > >"Gemini" <currwamp > >holly, > The different, subtler tones that you are hearing are higher vibratory >rates(not necessarily higher in tone). When we tune into the inner sound, we >initially hear what may be characterized as a droning, humming, or whooshing >noise...in time we begin to hear one or more subtler tones...what is >happening is that when our essence becomes aquainted with a tone, we hear >more refined, yet subtler tones that seem "farther away"...these tones are >not new tones, as we possess the very essence of Spanda, the Divine creative >pulsation...in other words, you are not hearing new tones, your essence is >learning to hear the more subtle tones that have always been there...focus >on these subtler tones...go deeper into them...by doing so, your essence >with match the resonance of the tones, reveaing even more refined tones and >providing you with much grace. >Much Light >Marcus Marcus, Thank you for mentioning this meditation and your earlier suggestion to use ear plugs. With more practice, perhaps distractions are less of a problem. Have you or Holly read anything about hearing bird's singing (like a woods full of them)? This is too loud to hear any "subtler sounds far away." It seems funny to hear sounds that are not really there...what could that be about? This happens fairly often to me. With love, Gloria Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 7, 1999 In a message dated 2/7/1999 12:16:39 PM Pacific Standard Time, glee_is writes: << Marcus, Thank you for mentioning this meditation and your earlier suggestion to use ear plugs. With more practice, perhaps distractions are less of a problem. Have you or Holly read anything about hearing bird's singing (like a woods full of them)? This is too loud to hear any "subtler sounds far away." It seems funny to hear sounds that are not really there...what could that be about? This happens fairly often to me. With love, Gloria >> Hi Gloria. Hope all is well with you. Meditation on the inner sound is a well known method of meditation and it would be useful to have a discussion on that here. It is common to many traditions. Perhaps Madhya and Marcus can tell us more of the role it plays in the Kashmir Shivaism tradition. Harsha Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 8, 1999 Hello, this was a very intresting subject, very often (almost every night) when I go to sleep I'm hearing this "wooshing" sound (it's impossible to describe), and some times I hear it more like a very high beeping sound in diffirent tones. And most of the time when I hear the "wooshing" sound I can feel my astral body rise a bit form the physical body. I have even waked up one night and been completely paralised and feeling my astral body floating over my body and heard a very high and clear "woow" sound repetedly above my head. Could this sound be the inner sound that you talk about? Best Regards Robert gloria lee wrote: > "gloria lee" <glee_is > > > > >"Gemini" <currwamp > > > >holly, > > The different, subtler tones that you are hearing are higher > vibratory > >rates(not necessarily higher in tone). When we tune into the inner > sound, we > >initially hear what may be characterized as a droning, humming, or > whooshing > >noise...in time we begin to hear one or more subtler tones...what is > >happening is that when our essence becomes aquainted with a tone, we > hear > >more refined, yet subtler tones that seem "farther away"...these tones > are > >not new tones, as we possess the very essence of Spanda, the Divine > creative > >pulsation...in other words, you are not hearing new tones, your essence > is > >learning to hear the more subtle tones that have always been > there...focus > >on these subtler tones...go deeper into them...by doing so, your > essence > >with match the resonance of the tones, reveaing even more refined tones > and > >providing you with much grace. > >Much Light > >Marcus > > Marcus, > > Thank you for mentioning this meditation and your earlier suggestion to > use ear plugs. With more practice, perhaps distractions are less of a > problem. Have you or Holly read anything about hearing bird's singing > (like a woods full of them)? This is too loud to hear any "subtler > sounds far away." It seems funny to hear sounds that are not really > there...what could that be about? This happens fairly often to me. > > With love, > Gloria > > ------ > To from this mailing list, or to change your subscription > to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at and > select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 8, 1999 Goria, The sounds that you are hearing are not externally sounds i.e.,, the fact that they are internal does not exclude the fact that they are not real...Grace bestowed upon us by ParamaShiva(the highest reality) occurs both on a grand scale, suffusing the entire universe--and on a personal scale...these sounds that you are hearing sound beautiful...the point is not to question it, but rather to go with it...while we can't know what the purpose is just yet, rest assured that the purpose in and of itself is there...remain ever vigilant in this meditation to observe new, subtler tones or vibrations...the important point to remember is to always go deep into whatever you are experiencing, and the result, whatever that may be, will become manifest...I want to express that it is not important that any new tones be higher in pitch...in fact, a new tone may be any pitch on the entire sound scale--what must be remembered is that higher vibrational frequencies are what we are tuning into...if you hear a new, subtle tone or noise, go into it, bring to the forefront--by doing this you are opening up to the unceasing, endless, infinate primordial sound of the universe--this is the spanda principle--Shiva in action, which is none other than his divine creative will in action-Shakti. In Truth Marcus gloria lee <glee_is < > Sunday, February 07, 1999 8:33 PM Re: Meditation on the inner sound >"gloria lee" <glee_is > > > >> >>"Gemini" <currwamp >> >>holly, >> The different, subtler tones that you are hearing are higher >vibratory >>rates(not necessarily higher in tone). When we tune into the inner >sound, we >>initially hear what may be characterized as a droning, humming, or >whooshing >>noise...in time we begin to hear one or more subtler tones...what is >>happening is that when our essence becomes aquainted with a tone, we >hear >>more refined, yet subtler tones that seem "farther away"...these tones >are >>not new tones, as we possess the very essence of Spanda, the Divine >creative >>pulsation...in other words, you are not hearing new tones, your essence >is >>learning to hear the more subtle tones that have always been >there...focus >>on these subtler tones...go deeper into them...by doing so, your >essence >>with match the resonance of the tones, reveaing even more refined tones >and >>providing you with much grace. >>Much Light >>Marcus > >Marcus, > >Thank you for mentioning this meditation and your earlier suggestion to >use ear plugs. With more practice, perhaps distractions are less of a >problem. Have you or Holly read anything about hearing bird's singing >(like a woods full of them)? This is too loud to hear any "subtler >sounds far away." It seems funny to hear sounds that are not really >there...what could that be about? This happens fairly often to me. > >With love, >Gloria > >------ >To from this mailing list, or to change your subscription >to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at and >select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 8, 1999 Deamond, Yessirree, that is precisely what you are hearing...the inner sound, when we put our attention on it, draws us deeply within when this is our intent...intent is a subtler energy of the will or iccha shakti...the sound can be a vehicle that "carries" us into that state which opens up the potential to recieve grace...what you are discribing is one of many experiences that are too numerous to mention hear; experiences that can be profound...the profoundness of these experiences are directly proportional to our intent on experiencing them...ShivaShakti does not drag us into realization, but rather, brings grace into our lives when we make clear our will through intent...I hope you have continued growth along this path. Much Light, Marcus Deamond <deamond < > Monday, February 08, 1999 9:02 AM Re: Meditation on the inner sound >Deamond <deamond > >Hello, >this was a very intresting subject, >very often (almost every night) when I go to sleep I'm hearing this >"wooshing" sound (it's impossible to describe), and some times I hear >it more like a very high beeping sound in diffirent tones. > >And most of the time when I hear the "wooshing" sound I can feel my >astral body rise a bit form the physical body. >I have even waked up one night and been completely paralised and feeling >my astral body floating over my body and heard a very high and clear "woow" >sound repetedly above my head. > >Could this sound be the inner sound that you talk about? > >Best Regards >Robert > >gloria lee wrote: > >> "gloria lee" <glee_is >> >> > >> >"Gemini" <currwamp >> > >> >holly, >> > The different, subtler tones that you are hearing are higher >> vibratory >> >rates(not necessarily higher in tone). When we tune into the inner >> sound, we >> >initially hear what may be characterized as a droning, humming, or >> whooshing >> >noise...in time we begin to hear one or more subtler tones...what is >> >happening is that when our essence becomes aquainted with a tone, we >> hear >> >more refined, yet subtler tones that seem "farther away"...these tones >> are >> >not new tones, as we possess the very essence of Spanda, the Divine >> creative >> >pulsation...in other words, you are not hearing new tones, your essence >> is >> >learning to hear the more subtle tones that have always been >> there...focus >> >on these subtler tones...go deeper into them...by doing so, your >> essence >> >with match the resonance of the tones, reveaing even more refined tones >> and >> >providing you with much grace. >> >Much Light >> >Marcus >> >> Marcus, >> >> Thank you for mentioning this meditation and your earlier suggestion to >> use ear plugs. With more practice, perhaps distractions are less of a >> problem. Have you or Holly read anything about hearing bird's singing >> (like a woods full of them)? This is too loud to hear any "subtler >> sounds far away." It seems funny to hear sounds that are not really >> there...what could that be about? This happens fairly often to me. >> >> With love, >> Gloria >> >> ------ >> To from this mailing list, or to change your subscription >> to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at and >> select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. > > >------ >To from this mailing list, or to change your subscription >to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at and >select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 8, 1999 Flute, Great to hear from a fellow empath...I responded to an earlier post with a similar question...Grace works on both a large scale as well as an individual one...the sound or tone you hear will not be the same as the next person...we are all at differant level of realization; hence the different tones...you see, the shabda with its endless sound(s) is allready within--it is no different than Shiva--it is the sound of the creative pulsation of Shiva...i.e. when we hear a new tone or tones it is because we are allowing ourselves to hear them through intent...they were never not there--they are only waiting to be heard...perhaps a few definitions from the Spanda Karikas will help: Spanda--Throb in the motionless Siva which brings about the manifestation, maintenance, and withdrawal of the universe: Svatantrya Sakti, creative pulsation. Sabda-brama--Ultimate reality in the form of cit-vibration (counciousness-vibration) in which thought and word are identical. Sabda--Sound, word. Sabda is the primordial sound of creation--it is the first manifestation of Shiva in the creation of the matrix of this universe...this is verfied by virtually every holy text on the planet...even the Bible, which I quote with some trepidation, says on page one: "In the beginning God said 'Let there Be Light'"--from previous definitions we see that thought, word, and sound are of identical energy...consider this; everything is vibration. quantum particles vibrate, or oscillate at an incredible rate--the is the basis of quantum mechanics that says subatomic particles take on a distinct location when observed, this location of which is random to the objective world. Basically this means they are moving REALLY FAST. Electrons both spin around the nucleus, and spin on it's axis, another form of wave or vibration...energy is measured by its wavelength--in part of the spectrum we have infra-red, the visible color spectrum ( red through violet), then microwave, x-ray, and gamma ray--all vibratory rates...in fact, matter is not solid at all( close analysis reveals that there is indeed much space between the nucleus and electron, as well as between the relative orbit of the immediately surounding electrons...it is only solid because it(matter) is of a very low energy, or vibratory rate. Matter is said to have potential energy..i.e. wood is solid--burn it and you ecite the electrons, which speed up, resulting in immense heat from friction and BOOM! The wood goes up into flames as it releases its potential energy. This has been a very windy way to describe to you the basic construct of the universe...everything from a gross level down to a sub-atomic level is moving, pulsing, throbbing, contracting, expanding, speeding up, slowing down,--vibrating. Sound is of the essence of this reality..show me a place in this universe that has no vibration movement, or some other aspect related to sound...there is no such place...if there is a place with no sound, it only because none is being made...besides this fact, there is vibration going on, if only on the subatomic level everywhere, at all times. This is Spanda, the divine creative pulsation. Much Light Marcus Carolyn Maloney <reiki < > Monday, February 08, 1999 3:29 PM Re: Meditation on the inner sound >Carolyn Maloney <reiki > >> << Marcus, > It seems funny to hear sounds that are not really >> there...what could that be about? This happens fairly often to me. >Each of us tune into the subtle differences within and >without by using a different sense. Yours appears to be >hearing- Clairaudient, Mine is touch - empathic.. many >others are visual - clairvoyant.. taste and smell are in >there too. >Love, >flute > >------ >To from this mailing list, or to change your subscription >to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at and >select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 8, 1999 > << Marcus, It seems funny to hear sounds that are not really > there...what could that be about? This happens fairly often to me. Each of us tune into the subtle differences within and without by using a different sense. Yours appears to be hearing- Clairaudient, Mine is touch - empathic.. many others are visual - clairvoyant.. taste and smell are in there too. Love, flute Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
