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dear kelly,

I thought your take on the Nandu thing was right on. I

liked the quote from your guru. Nandu is very humble

and extreeeeeeeeeeemly devoted to Shree Maa and

Swamiji. I mean that from his actions. He asks for

nothing and gives and does everything.He works so hard

that I have seen him dose off standing up on a

scaffold 20 feet off the ground leaning against a

wall!!! Talk about scary! When we build the temple in

the spring I am going to request he not be permitted

to work higher than 2 feet off the ground and only

with a buddy and he be chained to his bed for at least

4 hours a nite.

He is a great example for all.

Namaskar

sidd

 

Message: 13

Wed, 5 Nov 2003

19:25:57 -0800 (PST)

Kelly Leeper

<blissnout

Re: Re: personal

interest

 

Sidd,

 

For some reason people

avoid stating the truth. Or they come back with

a "yes, but" that negates

the Truth. I think Nandu knows this to be

true and it is evident

from his lovely poetry. Even if it wasn't

evident, it would still

be the Truth.

 

People get attacked for

having such simple self awareness by

those who get caught up

in nettlesome crows of mind. It

seems to be a method of

self preservation amongst devotee's

to avoid standing in the

absolute or what they know is Truth.

Instead it feels safer to

play another role in order to avoid ridicule

by those who would stomp

on pearls. There are many devotees

who can recognize pearls

and then there are those who enjoy

stomping on them. All

are devotee's but with different awareness.

 

My Guru says, "when we

are feeling strong, "I am That" when we

feel a little weak, "Maa,

how I need you and love you" I have to

agree I toggle between

the two. The person who has tasted a

grain of sugar has the

same awareness as the person who has

taken a spoonful. It

doesn't mean afterwards the person who has

taken the spoonful is any

more aware than the person with who

received a grain. I can

tell you when "I am That" it irks people

who need that to not be

true. For those who know it to be true

it's a relief!

 

So, being the child is

good, Being Maa is good too. Let's just hope

all bhava's are supported

instead of trampled on this time.

 

I totally appreciate your

frankness and honesty and your

willingness to state the

Truth as well as encourage a fellow

sadhaka. Thanks for

being here. I don't know you, but like

Parvati said, It's long

over due.

 

--- wrote:

> ------------------------ Sponsor

>

>

>

>

>

>

------

>

> There are 14 messages in this issue.

>

> Topics in this digest:

>

> 1. Re: the Beloved

> "nitya_ma" <nitya_ma

> 2. Re: The occasional joke or two - before we

> take ourselves too seriously

> Ardis Jackson

> <anandamama

> 3. Re: Re: Question from Shree Maa

> steven klayman

> <thedoc108

> 4. Re: Re: personal interest

> steven klayman

> <thedoc108

> 5. Compiling Mantras -- Removing Fear

> "Latha Nanda"

> <lathananda

> 6. Re: the Beloved

> "nitya_ma" <nitya_ma

> 7. Re: Shree Maa's question about puja

> "kaliananda_saraswati"

> <kaliananda_saraswati

> 8. mistakes

> "rudran2" <stechiekov

> 9. redundancy

> "rudran2" <stechiekov

> 10. Welcome Sidd!

> "parvati_saraswati"

> <parvati_saraswati

> 11. Re: personal interest

> "Gauri" <gaurima108

> 12. Re: Re: Shree Maa's question about puja

> Lall and Dolly Singh

> <dolly8655

> 13. Re: Re: personal interest

> Kelly Leeper <blissnout

> 14. Re: Compiling Mantras -- Removing Fear

> "Gauri" <gaurima108

>

>

>

______________________

>

______________________

>

> Message: 1

> Wed, 05 Nov 2003 15:42:28 -0000

> "nitya_ma" <nitya_ma

> Re: the Beloved

>

> Dear Latha

> Aren't Swamiji's stories great?

>

> I was thinking about what you said...

> I believe that when we are so full, yet in need,

> that that is what it means to

> be human--because there we are in love;

> when we are in love with the creation--with God,

> with the Goddess, then

> all we can do is to expand, and expand--infinitely--

> and in that longing for the Beloved, for the Divine,

> there we become (or we

> are always becoming) more and more our true, human

> selves--perpetually in

> love, moving towards union with our Beloved.

> There we grow, evolve, expand and come closer and

> closer to the Source,

> to God.

> There is the meaning of our lives: really, truly,

> being IN LOVE.

> Coming ever deeper into our hearts, resting there as

> well.

>

> I believe She shines through us as we love.

> Please, forgive me if I share another Rumi poem,

> this could get

> redundant but oh well, I love Rumi:

>

> Lovers of God, sometimes a door opens.

> and a human being becomes a way

> for grace to come through.......

>

> if you would rise from sleep, leave

> the market arguing, and learn that

> your own essence is your wealth.

>

>

>

>

, "Latha Nanda"

> <lathananda>

> wrote:

> > Dear Nitya,

> >

> > I enjoyed reading the story from Swamiji and your

> own insight.

> >

> > I am so full, yet in need - something to meditate

> on.

> >

> > Purnamadaha Purnamidam ....

> > Everything is complete , if you take a part of the

> fullness, still it

> > continues to stay complete. The part is complete

> as well as the whole

> > is complete.

> >

> > I am a part of the whole and I am

> full/complete/perfect. Now if I

> > only I could totally experience that ....

> > Back to Sadhana ...

> >

> > Thanks again Nitya.

> >

> > Love

> > Latha

> >

> >

> >

> > , "nitya_ma"

> <nitya_ma> wrote:

> > > Dear Fellow Lovers,

> > > I just finished reading the excerpt from Swamiji

> that Sarada posted

> > on

> > > Sanskrit and love.

> > > Swamiji told us another story, this one from

> Socrates (The

> > Symposium):

> > >

> > > Penury (Want) was always destitute, always in

> need. One day she

> > went to a

> > > big party given by Zeus, and there she saw

> Poros--the god of great

> > excess

> > > and plenty, getting quite drunk and enjoying

> himself enormously,

> > and she,

> > > being ever in want, wanted some of that. So she

> became lovers with

> > Poros

> > > for that night, and from their union a son was

> born, whose name was

> > Eros.

> > >

> > > Eros was not a god and he was not a man; he was

> the energy born

> > between

> > > the coming together of Too LIttle and Too Much

> (Penury and Poros)--

> > he was

> > > always in want, and he was always so full. He

> was that energy that

> > moved

> > > between humans and gods. Eros, moving

> constantly between the

> > mundane

> > > and the Divine, always desires everlasting,

> uninterrupted

> > possession of his

> > > Beloved. This Eros, this love, is always

> yearning for that

> > ultimate fulfillment

> > > that comes from union with the Beloved--with Our

> Divine, with God.

> > >

> > > This love is all that gives life meaning--and

> here it is that which

> > is born from

> > > the union of Want and Excess--Need and

> Fulfillment. This eros,

> > this power,

> > > that is born within us, when directed toward

> Divine, transforms

> > everything!

> > > Especially us. Love takes us toward the truth

> of ourselves, so

> > very beautiful.

>

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Dear Sidd,

What a wonderful tribute to your brother at the Devi Mandir. I'd love to meet him.

Ardis

steven klayman <thedoc108 >

Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:15:19 -0800 (PST)

Re: Digest Number 62

dear kelly,

I thought your take on the Nandu thing was right on. I

liked the quote from your guru. Nandu is very humble

and extreeeeeeeeeeemly devoted to Shree Maa and

Swamiji. I mean that from his actions. He asks for

nothing and gives and does everything.He works so hard

that I have seen him dose off standing up on a

scaffold 20 feet off the ground leaning against a

wall!!! Talk about scary! When we build the temple in

the spring I am going to request he not be permitted

to work higher than 2 feet off the ground and only

with a buddy and he be chained to his bed for at least

4 hours a nite.

He is a great example for all.

Namaskar

sidd

Message: 13

Wed, 5 Nov 2003

19:25:57 -0800 (PST)

Kelly Leeper

<blissnout >

Re: Re: personal

interest

Sidd,

For some reason people

avoid stating the truth. Or they come back with

a "yes, but" that negates

the Truth. I think Nandu knows this to be

true and it is evident

from his lovely poetry. Even if it wasn't

evident, it would still

be the Truth.

People get attacked for

having such simple self awareness by

those who get caught up

in nettlesome crows of mind. It

seems to be a method of

self preservation amongst devotee's

to avoid standing in the

absolute or what they know is Truth.

Instead it feels safer to

play another role in order to avoid ridicule

by those who would stomp

on pearls. There are many devotees

who can recognize pearls

and then there are those who enjoy

stomping on them. All

are devotee's but with different awareness.

My Guru says, "when we

are feeling strong, "I am That" when we

feel a little weak, "Maa,

how I need you and love you" I have to

agree I toggle between

the two. The person who has tasted a

grain of sugar has the

same awareness as the person who has

taken a spoonful. It

doesn't mean afterwards the person who has

taken the spoonful is any

more aware than the person with who

received a grain. I can

tell you when "I am That" it irks people

who need that to not be

true. For those who know it to be true

it's a relief!

So, being the child is

good, Being Maa is good too. Let's just hope

all bhava's are supported

instead of trampled on this time.

I totally appreciate your

frankness and honesty and your

willingness to state the

Truth as well as encourage a fellow

sadhaka. Thanks for

being here. I don't know you, but like

Parvati said, It's long

over due.

--- wrote:

> ------------------------ Sponsor

>

>

>

>

>

>

------

>

> There are 14 messages in this issue.

>

> Topics in this digest:

>

> 1. Re: the Beloved

> "nitya_ma" <nitya_ma >

> 2. Re: The occasional joke or two - before we

> take ourselves too seriously

> Ardis Jackson

> <anandamama (AT) earthlink (DOT) net>

> 3. Re: Re: Question from Shree Maa

> steven klayman

> <thedoc108 >

> 4. Re: Re: personal interest

> steven klayman

> <thedoc108 >

> 5. Compiling Mantras -- Removing Fear

> "Latha Nanda"

> <lathananda >

> 6. Re: the Beloved

> "nitya_ma" <nitya_ma >

> 7. Re: Shree Maa's question about puja

> "kaliananda_saraswati"

> <kaliananda_saraswati >

> 8. mistakes

> "rudran2" <stechiekov >

> 9. redundancy

> "rudran2" <stechiekov >

> 10. Welcome Sidd!

> "parvati_saraswati"

> <parvati_saraswati >

> 11. Re: personal interest

> "Gauri" <gaurima108 >

> 12. Re: Re: Shree Maa's question about puja

> Lall and Dolly Singh

> <dolly8655 >

> 13. Re: Re: personal interest

> Kelly Leeper <blissnout >

> 14. Re: Compiling Mantras -- Removing Fear

> "Gauri" <gaurima108 >

>

>

>

______________________

>

______________________

>

> Message: 1

> Wed, 05 Nov 2003 15:42:28 -0000

> "nitya_ma" <nitya_ma >

> Re: the Beloved

>

> Dear Latha

> Aren't Swamiji's stories great?

>

> I was thinking about what you said...

> I believe that when we are so full, yet in need,

> that that is what it means to

> be human--because there we are in love;

> when we are in love with the creation--with God,

> with the Goddess, then

> all we can do is to expand, and expand--infinitely--

> and in that longing for the Beloved, for the Divine,

> there we become (or we

> are always becoming) more and more our true, human

> selves--perpetually in

> love, moving towards union with our Beloved.

> There we grow, evolve, expand and come closer and

> closer to the Source,

> to God.

> There is the meaning of our lives: really, truly,

> being IN LOVE.

> Coming ever deeper into our hearts, resting there as

> well.

>

> I believe She shines through us as we love.

> Please, forgive me if I share another Rumi poem,

> this could get

> redundant but oh well, I love Rumi:

>

> Lovers of God, sometimes a door opens.

> and a human being becomes a way

> for grace to come through.......

>

> if you would rise from sleep, leave

> the market arguing, and learn that

> your own essence is your wealth.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> , "Latha Nanda"

> <lathananda>

> wrote:

> > Dear Nitya,

> >

> > I enjoyed reading the story from Swamiji and your

> own insight.

> >

> > I am so full, yet in need - something to meditate

> on.

> >

> > Purnamadaha Purnamidam ....

> > Everything is complete , if you take a part of the

> fullness, still it

> > continues to stay complete. The part is complete

> as well as the whole

> > is complete.

> >

> > I am a part of the whole and I am

> full/complete/perfect. Now if I

> > only I could totally experience that ....

> > Back to Sadhana ...

> >

> > Thanks again Nitya.

> >

> > Love

> > Latha

> >

> >

> >

> > , "nitya_ma"

> <nitya_ma> wrote:

> > > Dear Fellow Lovers,

> > > I just finished reading the excerpt from Swamiji

> that Sarada posted

> > on

> > > Sanskrit and love.

> > > Swamiji told us another story, this one from

> Socrates (The

> > Symposium):

> > >

> > > Penury (Want) was always destitute, always in

> need. One day she

> > went to a

> > > big party given by Zeus, and there she saw

> Poros--the god of great

> > excess

> > > and plenty, getting quite drunk and enjoying

> himself enormously,

> > and she,

> > > being ever in want, wanted some of that. So she

> became lovers with

> > Poros

> > > for that night, and from their union a son was

> born, whose name was

> > Eros.

> > >

> > > Eros was not a god and he was not a man; he was

> the energy born

> > between

> > > the coming together of Too LIttle and Too Much

> (Penury and Poros)--

> > he was

> > > always in want, and he was always so full. He

> was that energy that

> > moved

> > > between humans and gods. Eros, moving

> constantly between the

> > mundane

> > > and the Divine, always desires everlasting,

> uninterrupted

> > possession of his

> > > Beloved. This Eros, this love, is always

> yearning for that

> > ultimate fulfillment

> > > that comes from union with the Beloved--with Our

> Divine, with God.

> > >

> > > This love is all that gives life meaning--and

> here it is that which

> > is born from

> > > the union of Want and Excess--Need and

> Fulfillment. This eros,

> > this power,

> > > that is born within us, when directed toward

> Divine, transforms

> > everything!

> > > Especially us. Love takes us toward the truth

> of ourselves, so

> > very beautiful.

>

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Yes, Nandu is very sweet and teaches much from his simplicity. If Maa

could only endow me with poetic grace like He. It's very apparent to

me that He is very close to the Divine Mother on all levels. That He

Is, is True:)

Thanks for responding. Sometimes I speak with loads of passion but my

heart is sweet, what happens after it leaves my lips I sometimes don't

get:) Another lesson from Nandu and hopefully one day I will have

learned by his example. It takes repetition, so keep those lovely

poems coming Nandu. Pranams,

Namaste,Kellysteven klayman <thedoc108 > wrote:

dear kelly,I thought your take on the Nandu thing was right on. Iliked

the quote from your guru. Nandu is very humbleand extreeeeeeeeeeemly

devoted to Shree Maa andSwamiji. I mean that from his actions. He

asks fornothing and gives and does everything.He works so hardthat I

have seen him dose off standing up on ascaffold 20 feet off the

ground leaning against awall!!! Talk about scary! When we build the

temple inthe spring I am going to request he not be permittedto work

higher than 2 feet off the ground and onlywith a buddy and he be

chained to his bed for at least4 hours a nite.He is a great example

for all.Namaskarsidd Message:

13 Wed, 5 Nov 200319:25:57 -0800

(PST) Kelly

Leeper<blissnout > Re:

Re: personalinterest

Sidd, For

some reason peopleavoid stating the truth. Or they come back with

a "yes, but" that negatesthe Truth. I think

Nandu knows this to be true and it is

evidentfrom his lovely poetry. Even if it wasn't

evident, it would stillbe the Truth.

People get

attacked forhaving such simple self awareness by

those who get caught upin nettlesome crows of mind. It

seems to be a method ofself preservation

amongst devotee's to avoid standing in

theabsolute or what they know is Truth.

Instead it feels safer toplay another role in order to avoid ridicule

by those who would stompon pearls. There

are many

devotees who can recognize pearlsand then

there are those who enjoy stomping on

them. Allare devotee's but with different awareness.

My Guru says, "when weare

feeling strong, "I am That" when we

feel a little weak, "Maa,how I need you

and love you" I have to agree I toggle

betweenthe two. The person who has tasted a

grain of sugar has thesame awareness as the person who has

taken a spoonful. Itdoesn't mean afterwards the

person who

has taken the spoonful is anymore aware

than the person with who received a

grain. I cantell you when "I am That" it irks people

who need that to not betrue. For those who know it to be

true it's a

relief! So,

being the child isgood, Being Maa is good too. Let's just hope

all bhava's are supportedinstead of trampled on

this time.

I totally appreciate yourfrankness and

honesty and your willingness to state

theTruth as well as encourage a fellow

sadhaka. Thanks forbeing here. I don't know you, but like

Parvati said, It's longover

due. ---

wrote:> ------------------------ Sponsor> > To

from this group, send an email to:>

> >

>------>

> There are 14 messages in this issue.> > Topics in this digest:> >

1. Re: the Beloved> "nitya_ma"

<nitya_ma >> 2. Re: The occasional joke or two -

before we> take ourselves too seriously>

Ardis Jackson> <anandamama (AT) earthlink (DOT) net>> 3. Re: Re: Question

from Shree Maa> steven klayman>

<thedoc108 >> 4. Re: Re: personal interest>

steven klayman> <thedoc108 >> 5. Compiling

Mantras -- Removing Fear> "Latha Nanda">

<lathananda >> 6. Re: the Beloved>

"nitya_ma" <nitya_ma >> 7. Re: Shree Maa's question

about

puja> "kaliananda_saraswati">

<kaliananda_saraswati >> 8. mistakes>

"rudran2" <stechiekov >> 9. redundancy>

"rudran2" <stechiekov >> 10. Welcome Sidd!>

"parvati_saraswati"> <parvati_saraswati >>

11. Re: personal interest> "Gauri"

<gaurima108 >> 12. Re: Re: Shree Maa's question about

puja> Lall and Dolly Singh> <dolly8655 >>

13. Re: Re: personal interest> Kelly Leeper

<blissnout >> 14. Re: Compiling Mantras -- Removing

Fear> "Gauri" <gaurima108 >> >

>______________________>______________________>

> Message: 1> Wed, 05 Nov 2003 15:42:28 -0000>

"nitya_ma" <nitya_ma >> Re: the Beloved> > Dear

Latha> Aren't Swamiji's stories great?> > I

was thinking about what you said...> I believe that when we are so

full, yet in need,> that that is what it means to> be human--because

there we are in love;> when we are in love with the creation--with

God,> with the Goddess, then> all we can do is to expand, and

expand--infinitely--> and in that longing for the Beloved, for the

Divine,> there we become (or we> are always becoming) more and more

our true, human> selves--perpetually in > love, moving towards union

with our Beloved.> There we grow, evolve, expand and come closer and>

closer to the Source,> to God.> There is the meaning of our lives:

really, truly,> being IN LOVE.> Coming ever deeper into our hearts,

resting there as> well.> > I believe She shines through us as we

love.> Please, forgive me if I share another Rumi poem,> this could

get> redundant but oh

well, I love Rumi:> > Lovers of God, sometimes a door opens.> and a

human being becomes a way> for grace to come through.......> > if you

would rise from sleep, leave> the market arguing, and learn that> your

own essence is your wealth.> > > > > > > > > > > --- In

, "Latha Nanda"> <lathananda> >

wrote:> > Dear Nitya,> > > > I enjoyed reading the story from Swamiji

and your> own insight. > > > > I am so full, yet in need - something

to meditate> on. > > > > Purnamadaha Purnamidam ....> > Everything is

complete , if you take a part of the> fullness, still it > > continues

to stay complete. The part is complete> as well as the whole > > is

complete.> > >

> I am a part of the whole and I am> full/complete/perfect. Now if I >

> only I could totally experience that ....> > Back to Sadhana ...> >

> > Thanks again Nitya.> > > > Love> > Latha> > > > > > > > --- In

, "nitya_ma"> <nitya_ma> wrote:> > >

Dear Fellow Lovers,> > > I just finished reading the excerpt from

Swamiji> that Sarada posted > > on > > > Sanskrit and love.> > >

Swamiji told us another story, this one from> Socrates (The > >

Symposium):> > > > > > Penury (Want) was always destitute, always in>

need. One day she > > went to a > > > big party given by Zeus, and

there she saw> Poros--the god of great > > excess > > > and plenty,

getting

quite drunk and enjoying> himself enormously, > > and she, > > > being

ever in want, wanted some of that. So she> became lovers with > >

Poros > > > for that night, and from their union a son was> born,

whose name was > > Eros.> > > > > > Eros was not a god and he was not

a man; he was> the energy born > > between > > > the coming together

of Too LIttle and Too Much> (Penury and Poros)--> > he was > > >

always in want, and he was always so full. He> was that energy that

> > moved > > > between humans and gods. Eros, moving> constantly

between the > > mundane > > > and the Divine, always desires

everlasting,> uninterrupted > > possession of his > > > Beloved.

This Eros, this love, is always>

yearning for that > > ultimate fulfillment > > > that comes from union

with the Beloved--with Our> Divine, with God.> > > > > > This love is

all that gives life meaning--and> here it is that which > > is born

from > > > the union of Want and Excess--Need and> Fulfillment. This

eros, > > this power, > > > that is born within us, when directed

toward> Divine, transforms > > everything!> > > Especially us. Love

takes us toward the truth> of ourselves, so > > very beautiful.> ===

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