Repeat but don't repent later.

[Pankaja_Dasa 1]

 

 

Hare Krishna,

 

 

I just came to the realization, that when we repeat the words of Guru, it is Not for Ourself, or our own benefit for sense gratification, BUT for the betterment of others. For example telling somebody to give up meat-eating and getting angry is NOT for our own sense gratification.

 

 

GGGGGGGGgaura-nitai Haribol!!!

[AncientMariner 0]

I found an interesting passage from Srimad Bhagavatam regarding meat-eating.

 

Canto 9, Ch.6 text 7

 

"Thereafter, Iksvaku's son Vikuksi went to the forest and killed many animals suitable for being offered as oblations. But when fatigued and hungry he became forgetful and ate a rabbit he had killed."

 

Purport

 

"It is evident that ksatriyas killed animals in the forest because the flesh of animals was suitable to be offered at a particular type of yajna. Offering oblations to the forefathers in the ceremony known as sraddha is also a kind of yajna. In this yajna, flesh obtained from the forest by hunting could be offered. However, in the present age, Kali-yuga, this kind of offering is forbidden. Quoting for the Brahma-vaivarta Purana, Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu said:

 

"In this age of Kali, five acts are forbidden: the offering of a horse in sacrifice, the offering of a cow in sacrifice, the acceptance of the order of sannyasa, the offering of flesh to the forefathers, and a man's begetting children in his brother's wife." The word pala-paitrkam refers to an offering of flesh in oblations to forefathers. Foremerly, such an offering was allowed, but in this age it is forbidden. In this age, Kali-yuga, everyone is expert in hunting animals, but most of the people are sudras, not ksatriyas. According to Vedic injunctions, however, only ksatriyas are allowed to hunt, whereas sudras are allowed to eat flesh after offering goats or other insignificant animals before the deity of goddess Kali or similar demigods. On the whole, meat-eating is not completely forbidden; a particular class of men is allowed to eat meat according to various circumstances and injunctions. As far as eating beef is concerned, however, it is strictly prohibited to everyone. Thus in Bhagavad-Gita Krsna personally speaks of go-raksyam, cow protection. Meat-eaters, according to their different positions and the directions of the sastra, are allowed to eat flesh, but never the flesh of cows. Cows must be given all protection."

[Guest guest]

"the acceptance of the order of sannyasa"

 

really??

[AncientMariner 0]

I was just directly quoting the edition of Srimad Bhagavatam that I have word for word.

[Kulapavana 0]

the above quoted passage refers to the common karma-sannyasa being forbidden in the age of Kali (sannyasa as part of the varnashrama system). sannyasa as accepted within Vaishnava sampradayas is generally seen as an exception to this rule. still, taking sannyasa whimsically - as in "for fame and social elevation" certainly is forbidden and even offensive.