Guest guest Report post Posted May 5, 2004 i am in love with a devotee is there any thing wrong in it? i am also a devotee Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 5, 2004 Don't worry about this. Too many devotees have an immature, reductionist view of the world. They think it is logical but it is simply folly. What it does is create an inherent self-loathing and hatred of the world. There is an old example of the scientist trying to describe a flower. The scientist describes the flower as "Being made of 50 mg of carbon, 10 grams of phosphate, 10% chlorophyl. It has a subcutaneous layer of tissues that enable cellular transmissions of a liquid type substance. Its shape is a circular type object based on fibonacci numbering systems and is non-abrasive to the touch." Okay. Nice description of the flower there isn't it. It really is logical but misses the point. Others do the same with humanity (look, they are just made up of bones, blood, urine and muscles). It is illogical reductionism. It assumes that we are simply the sum of our parts. Don't have this self-loathing that you can't love someone. Try to center your relationship around God but don't feel conflicted. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sudhaya 0 Report post Posted May 5, 2004 Loving devotees is best service. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kulapavana 0 Report post Posted May 5, 2004 it is much better to be in love with a devotee than to be in love with some karmi /images/graemlins/wink.gif but it is still better to be in love with Krishna! /images/graemlins/smile.gif Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theist 1 Report post Posted May 5, 2004 Its natural to be in love. But Krsna should be the center of the relationship. As you both grow in Krsna consciousness you will see those warm feelings directed to the real object of your love,the real person, the soul, rather than the body. That is if you keep Krsna in the center. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 7, 2004 Is that devotee you are in love with, married? If that's the case its absolutely wrong. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 16, 2004 no he is not married he is a brahmachari Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gHari 0 Report post Posted May 16, 2004 What is the catch to the question? What do you want from him? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 16, 2004 Seems like both of them are of the same Sex /images/graemlins/smile.gif Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Avinash 0 Report post Posted May 16, 2004 I can claim that the person who started this thread is a female. She is a devotee and is in love with another devotee who is a male. Both of them are unmarried. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 16, 2004 i am in love with a devotee is there any thing wrong in it? i am also a devotee 2 years down the line u will realize u made a bad bargain. Then u will find things u never thought would happen in a relationship. Better Love Krishna. He is a safe choice. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theist 1 Report post Posted May 17, 2004 I have seen many people get married in ISKCON and then try to act like they are renounced or something by ignoring and being rather cold to their spouse. Public displays aside, doesn't not having feelings of affection towards each other seem kinda odd? Get married and have some Krsna conscious kids if you want to. Artifical renuciation sucks just like being overly attached. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 22, 2004 krishna is the best choice there is no doubt about it but whilen i am here in this material world and being a girl i have to get married no other option,so is it wrong if i choose the person to whom i would like to get married to? i am a devotee and i have chosen to marry a devotee whom i like so am i wrong in thinking like this? am i going against lord krishna's will? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theist 1 Report post Posted May 22, 2004 The mistake would be to marry someone who is not a devotee. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
i_luv_krishna 0 Report post Posted May 22, 2004 ---> krishna is the best choice there is no doubt about it but whilen i am here in this material world and being a girl i have to get married no other option,so is it wrong if i choose the person to whom i would like to get married to? i am a devotee and i have chosen to marry a devotee whom i like so am i wrong in thinking like this? am i going against lord krishna's will? No you are not wrong. However this was just an advice from my own experience. When I was in your position, I was also thinking like you.... But your case may not turn up like mine, but it generally does so because it is the material world.... You better marry this person you like because choosing Krishna needs a fairly intense desire from the heart otherwise your won't be able to follow through Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 23, 2004 how do i approach him? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 23, 2004 First find out if he is interested in marriage or married life ? Many devotees are NOT interested in marriage, married life and having children etc. So first casually try to get his views on marriage and if he is interested in marriage. If he is not interested in marriage itself (not u) , then stop it that. I don't think you should go any further with your thoughts or any action. If he is interested in married life ask him if he is looking or what would he seek in his partner. This will give him enough hints that you are interested. If you feel shy/ odd approaching try finding these out from somebody around him or somebody who knows him well. Hope things work out nicely for you. Hare Krsna !!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 4, 2004 thanks a lot for ur reply but i am really feeling very guilty about this what will the lord think about me?am i falling? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 4, 2004 i am really feeling very guilty about this what will the lord think about me? ---the lord will think that you are not accepting the advice of devotees that say that you have not to feel guilty am i falling? ––everyone's falling.. otherwise we were in vaikunta Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vanamali 1 Report post Posted June 4, 2004 It's okay, don't worry. If you get married, just try to see Krishna in your husband whenever possible, and try to worship Krishna in this respect. If you find that your attachment for your husband is becoming very strong, this is a great opportunity for you to transfer that passion to Krishna. There is nothing wrong with being a householder. The world revolves because of householders- they support the other sectors and the temple with much-need financial support. Nothing wrong with being a householder whatsoever. Krishna consciousness is what Pujya Prema Pandurang calls "the progress of the pronoun" from I to Him, mine to His. That's all. When you get married, realize that, okay, this person is my husband, and this is an important relationship, but the relationship with Krishna is the permanent relation. Relationships with people in the world come and go; and not just with death. People fight over stupid things in the world, make relations and break relations very easily. But you are Krishna's and Krishna is yours from birth to birth, for eternity. So if he is agreeable, you can do it. Just keep your mind and heart under your (really Krishna's) control and you will be just fine devi. ~Vanamali Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
i_luv_krishna 0 Report post Posted June 4, 2004 ---> what will the lord think about me?am i falling? The Lord is a carefree guy who likes to rest beside a pond and waste His time by throwing stones in it.... He has no trip to lay onto anyone else.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vanamali 1 Report post Posted June 4, 2004 ---> i am really feeling very guilty about this what will the lord think about me?am i falling? Does this look like a guy who would think badly of such a sweet girl as you who obviously cares about Him so much? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 5, 2004 thank you so much dear vanamali,just pray for me that krishna shows me the right way and i make the correct deccision.hare krishna Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stonehearted 0 Report post Posted June 5, 2004 Be thoughtful of the other party. And, as I've suggested before, why not ask such things of those who you know and trust, and who may know something of this brahmacari? Proceed carefully. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
i_luv_krishna 0 Report post Posted June 5, 2004 Gee, this is my desktop......... ayi nanda-tanuja kinkaram patitam mam visame bhavambudhau krpaya tava paada-pankaja sthita-dhuli-sadrsam vicintaya "Oh, My Lord, O Krsna, son of Maharaja Nanda, I am Your eternal servant, but because of My own fruitive acts, I have fallen in this horrible ocean of nescience. Now please be causelessly merciful to Me. Consider Me a particle of dust at Your lotus feet." Caitanya Shikshashtakam 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
