Tarun 6 Report post Posted January 30, 2004 AnumAnikam apy ekeSAm iti cen, na, zarIra rUpaka vinyasta-gRhIter darzayati ca ||1|4|1|| what rests on reference, pradhAna; also, of some (kAThAka-sUtras); thus if not; body simile contained; from reference; shows too 109) If it b said that KaTha UpaniSad mentions pradhAna, disagree. Avyakta appears in passage containing 'body' simile & ergo avyakta means "body;" text shows this too. ENTITY ==> ==> ===> SIMILE zarIra - body ====> chariot buddhi - reason ==> charioteer mAnasa - impulse ==> reins arthas - objects ==> roads indriyas - senses => horses Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tarun 6 Report post Posted January 31, 2004 suxman tu tad-arhatvAt ||1|4|2|| subtle, permanent atoms, causal body; but, that its; arthatvAt - capability 110) But by word body, subtle body is meant. Term avyakta - unmanifest is capable of being applied to it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tarun 6 Report post Posted February 1, 2004 1.4.3.Tad adhInatvAd arthavat - - - its, his; from dependence; sense of sub-serving purpose 111) PradhAna is capable, not independently as Sankhyas hold, due to backing from Brahman, Supreme Cause. SwAmI PrabhupAd stated: “When we speak of Nature we must ask the question, ‘Whose Nature?’ Nature is not acting alone.” ======== 1.4.4 jneyatvAvacanAc ca - - - being known; avacanAt = from non-mention, omitted; too 112) Nothing in this KaThopaniSad passage claims avyakta to be knowledge’s object, ergo, avyakta does NOT mean Sankhya’s pradhAna. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tarun 6 Report post Posted February 2, 2004 "vadati" iti cen, na; prajno hi prakaraNAt text states thus if, not; Intelligent Self = AntaryAmi; because, from subject 113) If it b said text does teach avyakta is to b known, no, for declaration about knowing refers to Supreme Self & context shows it to b so. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tarun 6 Report post Posted February 4, 2004 trayANAm eva caivam upanyAsaH praznaz ca ||1|4|6|| of 3, namely 3 boons asked by Nachiketas; only and thus; mention, question also 114) Moreover, this UpaniSad mentions only 3 things, 3 benedictions; and question relates to only 3 things too. 1) his father will b well disposed toward him 2) he b taught celestial fire secret 3) he b initiated into Self-Realization mystery ====== 1) means of knowledge 2) person knowing 3) end to b realised - VedAnta Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tarun 6 Report post Posted February 5, 2004 mahadvac ca = like Mahat, too 115) And as Mahat occurring in this passage is NOT taken to refer to SAnkhya's mahat, so too avyakta here does NOT denote SAnkhya's pradhAna. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tarun 6 Report post Posted February 6, 2004 camasavad avizeSAt ||1.4.8|| as cup; from no special feature 116) Word ajA does not denote sAnkhya’s PrakRti, for none of Her distinct characteristic r mentioned, unlike camasa in Brhad-aranyakopaniSad, literally ‘cup’, actually ‘headskull’. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tarun 6 Report post Posted February 10, 2004 jyotir upakramA tu tathA hy adhIyate eke light, Brahman; commencing with, whose source is; but, thus, for this reason; some read some recensions (critical text revisions) have reading, another zAkhins read - reference to AtharvaNas; eke 117) But this ajA is described as originating in Light, as found in some recensions, ergo it cannot mean PrakRti. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tarun 6 Report post Posted February 12, 2004 kalpanopadezAt ca, madhvAdivad avirodhaH kalpanA = creative power: formation, thought; from teaching too; like honey & rest; no conflict exists 118) Because it's taught that Lord's creation is PradhAna, there's no contradiction in calling her both created & uncreated, as in honey's case.. (Sun rises & sets from earthling's viewpoint. Sun does not rise or set as seen from Sun's center.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tarun 6 Report post Posted February 15, 2004 Was Saint Valentine in santa-rasa or simply just another rajasikacarya? ============ na sankhyopasangrahAd api nAnA bhAvAd atirekAc ca not number; from enumeration; even many beings; from excess too Even multiplication peculiar to Sankhya doesn't prove this passage refers to PrakRti, for Sankhya's tattvas r both diversity & excessive. SaptarSis = 7 stars or sages, not 7x7 panca-panca-janAH = 5 people each called a panca-janAh Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tarun 6 Report post Posted February 22, 2004 prANAdayo vAkya zeSAt prAnA +, sentence, because of complement: next passage completes verse 120) 5 beings referred to in above Br Upan. passage r prANA & the rest, as appears from next verse of same UpaniSad. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tarun 6 Report post Posted May 10, 2004 jyotiSAkeSAm asaty anne by counting radiance; of some texts, (KANva) recensions; in absence/place of; grain 121) Some KANva texts mention light not food, still equaling 5. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tarun 6 Report post Posted May 11, 2004 kAraNatvena cAkAzAdisu yathA vyapadiSTokteH as/by being cause; and with reference to (w.r.t.) sky, air etc; as described; due to being declared 122) From Brahman all material energies emanate. Such Brahman outsources all material universes, not sky nor any other created by Brahman. ========== 2nd Canto does describe subtler giving rise to grosser, id est, sky produces air produces fire produces water produces earth produces uranium which we in turn deplete, recycle into tank penetrable shells (in our feebly grotesque attempt to attract, draw out ahead of schedule Kalky avatAr). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tarun 6 Report post Posted May 11, 2004 tack this on to last word of last post. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tarun 6 Report post Posted May 26, 2004 samAkarzAt = from relevancy, connection; by drawing in ("Brahman" from contiguous sentence) 123) Words asat & avyakRta denote Brahman due to relevancy - context - passage position wherein they appear. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tarun 6 Report post Posted June 2, 2004 jagad-vAcitvAt = world, from denotation 124) Word karman in Kaus.Up. denotes world or creation, not just work. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tarun 6 Report post Posted June 9, 2004 jIva-mukhya-prANa-lingAn, neti cet , tad vyAkhyAtam particular soul, chief vital air, from inferential marks; not thus; if that; has been delineated 125) If one objects that in above Kaus Up characteristic r given showing showing jIva or prANa and not Brahman r taught, then reply: Not so!! Not so!! Reasons already given in SUtra 1.1.31 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tarun 6 Report post Posted June 11, 2004 anyArthan tu jaiminiH prazna vyAkhyAnAbhyAm api caivam eke ||1.4.18|| other purpose but; Sage Jaimini question; from answer also; and thus; some (texts) 126) Sage Jaimini thinks JIva's mention made in above UpaniSad's meaning differs. It conveys idea JIva differs from Brahman for question & answer show it, plus some recensions clearly show it too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tarun 6 Report post Posted June 17, 2004 vAkyAnvayAt phrase, sentence; from connection, meaning janmAdyasya yato'nvayAd itaratas cArtheSu abhijna-svarAt yato - anvayAd 127) Entire Br. Up. text above refers to Original Supreme Person only; thus only can satifactory sentence connections b made. Who can know VedAnta better than VedavyAs Himself? Ergo ZrImad BhAgavatam is VedAnta's original tika. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tarun 6 Report post Posted June 18, 2004 pratijnA siddher lingam azmarathyaH 128) promise, vow; in/of fulfullment; mark sage Azmarathya In phrase "Atman must b seen" Atman must mean Supreme Self, for thus alone any promise made (by brahma-jnAna) can b fulfilled. PratijnA's fulfillment is tell/sign/clue Atman refers to Paramezvar = Supreme Self. Thus opines Azmarathya. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tarun 6 Report post Posted June 22, 2004 utkramiSyat evaM bhAvAdityauDulomiH person's about to depart to Supreme, pass away, mukti time; thus, due to condition (becoming dear to all); thus (spoke) sage AuDulomi 129) AuDulomi opines human soul, upon Divine Release, acquires all PuruSa's symptoms. ZrIla BhaktisiddhAnta Sarasvati ThAkur titled Kezava Mhrj's older brother, one of 20, Bhaktikevala AuDulomi Mhrj. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 4, 2004 The whole thing is so weird I am wondering where they found it. What's vedantra sutras about? Is it about ethics and proper living kinda stuff? Can you explain a bit more, I am lost? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tarun 6 Report post Posted July 7, 2004 Sgt Pepper Album's most transcendetal song ========== avasthiter iti kAza-kRtsnaH due to abiding, because Brahman abides in jIva; thus; sage KAzakRtsna KAzakRtsna opines that departing from body in above passage, though primarily applicable to jIva, applies to Brahman too, for It abides within individual soul. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tarun 6 Report post Posted July 14, 2004 prakRtiz ca pratijnA dRSTAntAnuparodhAt Matters source too; enunciation, promise, proposition to be proven; illustrative instances, visual conclusions; from no conflict 131) Brahman is material cause too, for this view is not opposed to elucidations & truths sought to be established in UpaniSads under consideration. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tarun 6 Report post Posted July 15, 2004 abhidhyopadezAc ca abhidhya = will, reflection; upadezAt = from instruction; ca = due to innumerable bygone creations 132) Brahman is universe's operative & material cause/drive, because of statement "Creation is His Will" + "Former Creations were also from His Will" ============ Seldom do we c contiguous aspirant stops/consonants (bh/dh). Any other example come to mind? Hint: Means to attain end = prayojan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
