Guest guest Posted December 4, 2003 Report Posted December 4, 2003 This is an article from Bhagavat dasa(ACBSP): Here is a pastime of Srila Gour Govinda Maharaja that emphasizes a disciples pure devotion to his Guru and the order of the Guru. It also demonstrates to what lengths the purely devoted disciple is willing to go to defend the order and the honor of his Guru Maharaja. Srila Gour Govinda Maharaja was a perfect example of how to live the order of the Guru and this pastime illustrates it beautifully. It was first published on Adi-Vani.com. Now to Let us see how a purely devoted disciple of His Divine Grace approached the translating and editing process. After Srila Prabhupada's departure there is a little known pastime, that will not remain so after this letter goes on your website, where Srila Gour Govinda Maharaj helped to reveal the unrivalled perfection of Srila Prabhupada's masterful translation of Bhagavad Gita. Srila Gour Govinda Maharaj was given the service by Srila Prabhupada of translating all of His books into the Orissan language. Srila Gour Govinda Maharaj was a great scholar who could write and speak in five languages, Orissan, Hindi, Bengali, English, and Sanskrit. He got his degree in English from the University with a minor in Sanskrit. I lived with Srila Gour Govinda Maharaj in the same room for nearly 3 years. He translated Srila Prabhupadas Bhagavad Gita with the greatest love and devotion and attention for detail. Because of His vast command of languages He was able to notice little details that others may have overlooked. One thing that was a cause of great transcendental concern for Him was the fact that when Srila Prabhupada translated a word from Sanskrit to English it would not be the same if Srila Gour Govinda Maharaj translated the Sanskrit word directly to Oriya. In other words the English word that Srila Prbhupada used to explain the Sanskrit word had an entirely different meaning than the Oriya word that would normally be used as a translation of this same Sanskrit word. Srila Gour Govinda Maharaj was concerned that in translating the literal English into Oriya that many Pandits and Scholars would complain that this was not an accurate translation. Since Srila Gour Govinda Maharaj did not want to change one single word of His beloved Spiritual Masters books but at the same time be able to defend the scholarships of His Guru Maharaj beyond the shadow of a doubt, He devised a plan for writing down all of the so called contradictions in a list until he completed the entire work. Srila Gour Govinda Maharaj then went to a little village to see the now retired Sanskrit professor who had taught Him Sanskrit in college. This man was considered one of the foremost authorities on the Sanskrit Language in India having one of the largest personal libraries on the subject, including one of the best collections of Sanskrit to English Dictionaries. Srila Gour Govinda Maharaj knew that this scholars grasp of Sanskrit to English translation would provide him with the evidence he needed to prove the authority of Srila Prabhupada's work. After about ten days Srila Gour Govinda Maharaj returned to the little mud hut that we lived in with the Sanskrit professor in tow. The Sanskrit professor introduced himself (I apologize but unfortunately I cannot remember his name) and began glorifying His Divine Grace Srila Prabhupada's masterful translation work. The Professor told me that he started studying Sanskrit when he was five years old, now in his late 70's he had been studying the language for over 70 years. He told me how on the first review of his dictionaries he could not find the translations that Srila Prbhupada had made from Sanskrit to English, but he said that Srila Gour Govinda Maharaj kept encouraging him to keep looking, assuring him that he would find the translation if he looked long and hard enough. The professor said he would have given up if it were not for Srila Gour Govinda Maharajs insistence that His Guru Maharaj had been accurate and that if he looked hard enough he would find it. Then the professor told me that he found each and every translation that Srila Prbhupada had made. The professor told me that these translations that your Guru has made are the most obscure and brilliant explanations of these words from Sanskrit to English that he had ever seen. The professor admitted that with all of his education and training he could not have thought of these obscure and brilliant meanings that so perfectly expressed the inner truths of the mysteries of the Bhagavad Gita. The professor then said having seen this translation work of His Divine Grace Srila Prabhupada he was convinced that Srila Prabhupada was the greatest Sanskrit scholar in the history of civilization and must have been directly enlightened by the Supreme Lord Krishna to accomplish this work. Now some may say how do we know he is not and the answer to that is the second important lesson that we learn from this pastime. Unlike some devotees who like to change the words in their Spiritual masters books in order to meet with the approval of scholars and professors. The pure devotional attitude of Srila Gour Govinda Maharaj was to elevate the professor by engaging him in devotional service and then bring him up to a spiritual platform so that he could get the mercy of Srila Prabhupada. Instead of acting like and editor and scholar Srila Gour Govinda Maharaj teaches us how to protect and defend the honor of the Spiritual Master through His Pure Devotional mood.
anadi Posted December 4, 2003 Report Posted December 4, 2003 To blaspheme Sri Gurudeva, Sri Bhagavan or the devotees is an offence. Similarly to hear blasphemy of them is also a great offence. If one is capable he should give suitable punishment to such offenders. If one is unable, he should cover his ears, leave that place and take bath with his clothes on. By hearing blasphemy the active principle ( vRtti) of bhakti becomes withered. Those who blaspheme KRSNa or the VaiSNavas are offenders who are averse to Sri KRSNa. Your are not a vaiSnava just because you post here and there some articles, and than you say these lies: Some time ago I happened upon the Gaudiya Samiti website. Thinking it would be full of stunning philosophical realizations, I very naively opened that webpage. Instead, the entire front page was full of articles by people and their problems with ISKCON. There was not even one percent Krishna-conscious philosophy on that page. Not surprisingly, I never visited it again. No, you are not a VaiSnava! Be afraid for your nose Here is the proof that you are a liar http://www.purebhakti.com/lectures/index.shtml Audarya I beg you don’t delete the proof oh his cheating people.
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2003 Report Posted December 4, 2003 there was a negative response to your above post, the first time you put it up, so we felt it best to remove it as well as yours, so as not to let things get out of hand. Plus it was a guest, not gopaldas (he never posts as a guest) that made the statement you quote: "Some time ago I happened upon the Gaudiya Samiti website. Thinking it would be full of stunning philosophical realizations, I very naively opened that webpage. Instead, the entire front page was full of articles by people and their problems with ISKCON. There was not even one percent Krishna-conscious philosophy on that page. Not surprisingly, I never visited it again." So better not to put this as a reply to him. Better to make a seperate thread of your statement with link to Pure Bhakti if you want to prove your point.
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2003 Report Posted December 4, 2003 Thank you, whatever comes is not worse than no proof for his cheating the people against the samiti and Sri Gurudeva.
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2003 Report Posted December 4, 2003 please read my edited post, i included more. refresh if it does not show
anadi Posted December 4, 2003 Report Posted December 4, 2003 My answer was false linked, but addressed to the right person. http://www.audarya-fellowship.com/showflat/cat/hinduism/66515/0/collapsed/5/o/3
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2003 Report Posted December 4, 2003 better if you make a new seperate thread and i will remove these. it was not gopaldas who made that statement originally, but a guest.
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