Guest guest Report post Posted May 12, 2003 dear gtest, thank you for giving 8 questions to the christisn 'saved' one. this is the kind of debate we want to do with them. then they will learn something (i.e. never bother ot think of converting the vedic people.) jai sri prabhupada! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 12, 2003 where is he who ridiculed and questioned. I dont find any response from him. shyam Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enlightened 0 Report post Posted May 12, 2003 Anyway, i am a hindu, and why would i reply the first post if I wrote it?? However, even if that guy is trying to ridicule, why do we have to drop to such a level where we have to be mean to him. It is easy to be mean, and it is very hard to be compassionate to the most tamasic of people. Oh yeah, but i am the guest who posted, "Is it ok to see krishna in everything... even in inappropriate ones?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 12, 2003 Some Christians, to be not mayavadis, accepted Jesus as God. But this understanding has no spiritual background. Most people in this world accept the shelter of Mäyäväda philosophy (the body of the Lord is made of material elements, because the Lord must be formless and as such impersonal) and follow that inauspicious path which is devoid of bhakti. Consequently, if there were no separate sampradAya for those who practice Suddha-bhakti that is untainted by the faults of Mäyäväda, it would be very difficult to attain genuine .-saNga. Therefore, it is stated in the Padma PurANa, sampradAya-vihinA ye mantrAs te viphalA matäH Sri brahma rudra-sanakA vaiSNavah kSiti-pAvanAH Vaishnava acaryas (spiritual teachers) in the four sampradäyas (disciplic schools)—namely Rämänujäcärya in the Sri-sampradäya, Madhväcärya in the Brahma-sampradäya, Vsnuusvämi in the Rudra-sampradäya, Nimbäditya in the CatuHsana-sampradäya—purify the whole universe. DiksA mantras not received from the AcAryas in one of these four sampradäyas will be fruitless. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 12, 2003 Of these four, the Brahma-sampradAya is the most ancient and has continued through the disciplic succession until the present day. These sampradAyas adhere to the system of guru-paramparA (disciplic succession) and they have brought the Vedänta and other supremely auspicious literatures unchanged from the most ancient times, and by the potency of the system of paramparA, there is not the slightest chance that they have made any change or eliminated any portion. There is, therefore, no reason to doubt the literature that the sampradäya has authorized. Sampradäya is an effective and indispensible arrangement, and for this reason, the .-sampradAya system is continuing amongst saints and sädhus from the most ancient times. Only the names of the most prominent äcäryas who have appeared from time to time are mentioned. para-vyomeçvarasyäséc chiñyo brahmä jagat-patiù tasya çiñyo närado ‘bhüd vyäsas tasyäpa çiñyatäm BrahmA, the master of the universe, is the disciple of ParameSvara Sri NäräyaNa, and Näradaji became the disciple of Brahmä. Vyäsadeva became the disciple of Näradajé. çuko vyäsasya çisyatvaà präpto jïänävarodhanät vyäsäl labdho kåñëa-dékño madhväcäryo mahäyaçaù Sri Sukadevaji became the disciple of Sri Vyäsadeva in order to check the spread of impersonal jïäna. The celebrated Madhväcärya also received krishna-diksä from Sri Vyäsadeva, Narahari became the twice-born shisya of Madhväcärya. tasya çiñyo naraharis tac-chiñyo mädhavo dvijaù akñobhyas tasya çiñyo ‘bhüt tac-chiñyo jayatérthakaù Mädhva-dvija became the disciple of Narahari. AkSobhya was Mädhva-dvija’s disciple and accepted Jayatirtha as his disciple. tasya çiñyo jïänasindhus tasya çiñyo mahänidhiù vidyänidhis tasya çiñyo räjendras tasya sevakaù Jïänasindhu became the disciple of Jayatirtha, Mahänidhi became Jïänasindhu’s disciple and accepted Vidyänidhi as his disciple, and Rajendra became the disciple of Vidyänidhi. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 13, 2003 is different. are kshatriyas out cast here? jai sri prabhupada! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enlightened 0 Report post Posted May 16, 2003 aw come on already... Kshatriya are supposed to be military people and people who protect others or the government agencies... Well, I am sorry to say but, If you want to be a kshatriya... go into the army and protect your country from various types of "muslim invasions" that you despise. Or try to be compassionate like a brahmin, live a good life and gain wisdom and bhakthi and finally go back to my krishna. I say this not to offend you, but I have read that hinduism , which is supposedly my religion does not teach intolerance and rudeness toward other religions , but teaches compassion and understanding.. thank you! case closed /images/graemlins/smile.gif Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stonehearted 0 Report post Posted May 16, 2003 kshatriyas are always guided by brahmanas. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 17, 2003 <<go into the army and protect your country from various types of "muslim invasions" that you despise.>> so this says you consider india not your country. assuming you are a hare krishna, you love krishna follow viashnavism that is a branch of hinduism, go to pilgrimage to india, but do not care for india. when kshatriyas worry about your freedom to worship krishna, you tell them to get away and join army. need to remember that the time now is dirrerent when no gov. can protect every one from terrorists, it is the duty of each person to adopt to kshatriya dharma. jai sri prabhupada! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enlightened 0 Report post Posted May 17, 2003 But, what ever happens now, happens due to the very will of krishna... And i am sure that he will protect the people even if they don't surrender to him. look at buddhism... Even though muslims and other atheists like from china tried to kill the religion all together... what is happening now?- the same religion that was almost extinct is now spreading fast into the western hemisphere and western countries. /images/graemlins/smile.gif I don't know where this discussion is going so i will stop now... you are right in your own way and i am right in mine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 25, 2004 hello i am a hindu and believe very strongly in the religion, however i am just learning. i have many muslim friends and we have friendly debates on religion. from what i know i back up why i think hinduism is the one true religion anf from many personal experiences. however it seems i cannot find much scientific proof, can you halp me? i do believe as hinduism is the oldest, reincarnation has been proven and many places around india have shown to have the presence of god, as i have seen myself. i have read the gita but not any of the oldest books,please could you expand on this topic, i would love to learn more. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 5, 2004 can you put things like where does the name hinduism come from? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
