Ed's Request: Consider This

[Tarun 6]

Greetings everyone, Here's a thought for all of you.

Thirty or forty years ago, rape of children by Catholic priests was a regular occurrence. It still is.

The difference between then and now is back then, none would believe it.

If a boy or a girl would claim to be molested by a priest, the kid would be punished for "telling lies."

Now, if a kid claims rape by a priest, it's taken seriously.

What is that similar to? It's similar to all the folks like me, who examine the evidence, and say that George Bush and his cohorts were responsible for the September 11 "terrorist" attacks.

Most people react with:

"Oh! You traitor! You moron! You conspiracy theorist!!!

How can you say such a horrible thing?" They then seek to punish the bringers of bad news exactly the way the adults used to punish the children for being molested by Catholic priests.

Please read the following article about how a young girl was raped by a priest and how it affected her for the rest of her life.

Then go to main site and browse dozens of articles implicating George Bush in the murders of thousands of people.

If you think George Bush is clean, you are only fooling yourselves.

If you open your minds, put aside your prejudice, put aside your fear of reality, logically examine all of the anomalies about the destruction of the World Trade Center, you will see that we are the children. George Bush, Henry Kissinger, Bill Clinton,

etc. are the priests who have been raping us. Don't be afraid to admit the truth, however unpleasant it may be.

Take courage from the example of the Catholic school girl who is finally able to get some justice now as she lays upon her death bed.

Hopefully it won't take that long for us.

Once again, please voice your support of representative McKinney in her efforts to force a thorough investigation.

Yours truly, Ed Safra.

Here are the links...

http://www.rense.com/general24/lifelonghorror.htm

>http://www.rense.com

[Tarun 6]

It is an indisputable fact that some Amerikans were involved in 9/11 attack.

Some Mossad too.

Whether Bushy himself knew?

Was it all done behind Bushel's back like Iran-Contra with Raygun?

So he'd look surprised on CNN?

Former NYC Mayor Ed Krotch certainly knew beforehand.

On a more positive note - SSS:

Bushing wants to increase # single sex schools nationwide.

I remember playing basketball against Boy's High in Brooklyn.

All Boys back then. Now even Boy's High is Co-ed. What a shame.

All in the name of Women's Lib. Nothing sacred anymore.

 

[Tarun 6]

LIBERTARIAN PACKAGE: I WAS GOING TO START A NEW THREAD..

I'd label it "Libertarian Alternative" or algo similar.

Then I recalled those famous words:

"Better to rebuild an old temple than to start a new one."

So here's some more of Ed's Advice:

Hello everyone,

This seems to me to be almost absolute proof that the media is corrupt as if I didn't already know.

Carla Howell, the Libertarian candidate for

governor of Massachusetts, has gotten an initiative on the ballot to

end personal income tax in that state. Newspapers, television and radio are not covering it at all.

As Dr. Joseph Goebbals, Nazi minister of

propaganda under Adolf Hitler said: "If you repeat a lie often enough, people will believe it."

Obviously he was the grandfather of our

modern American "news" services.

The flip side of that is

"If you want to kill something, give it no coverage whatsoever.

That is the current tactic of the establishment goons as far as ending income tax goes.

NEVER trust the media. They are lapdogs of people in power, people who wish to enslave all of us.

Newspapers, television and radio networks for the most part are owned by the same people who own most of the politicians. Thank God for the internet. While

it's true that much of the information on internet may be suspect, at least some of what's real manages to filter through. Yours truly, Ed Safra.

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Monday, May 27, 2002 23:42

Crisis for our Ballot Initiative

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Memorial Day, May 27, 2002

Circulation: 15,881

Official Newsletter of Carla Howell, Libertarian for Governor;

Michael Cloud, Libertarian for U.S. Senate; and the Ballot Initiative to End the Income Tax

"We in the vast media conspiracy to control the political process are running out of reasons to ignore Libertarians."

-- Joe Sciacca, The Boston Herald, 4/8/02

+++ URGENT MESSAGE FROM CARLA HOWELL AND MICHAEL CLOUD +++

Dear Friends,

We face a crisis.

The Major Boston News Media is blacking out news coverage on our Ballot Initiative to End the Income Tax in Massachusetts.

The Big Boston Media is censoring us. Silencing us.

Boston CBS and ABC News have refused to cover us for 8 solid

months.

Boston NBC News has done only one story on us in the same 8 months.

Blacked out for 8 months in a row by Fox News, PBS News, WB-56

News, and one measly minute on New England Cable News.

Not one single article this year covering our Ballot Initiative to

End the Income Tax in the Boston Globe.

No articles in the Boston Herald. Only one opinion column by Joe Sciacca.

Virtually no articles in 98% of Massachusetts' newspapers. The lion's share of which are owned by either the Boston Globe or Boston Herald.

Capitalism got better press in Pravda than our Ballot Initiative to End the Income Tax gets from the Big Boston Media.

Our End the Income Tax Ballot Initiative gives back $3,000 each to

3,000,000 Massachusetts workers every year.

The Big Boston Media refuses to report it.

Our End the Income Tax Ballot Initiative will take $9 Billion out of the hands of the state government and put it back in the hands of those who earned it. The biggest government spending cut since the end of World War II.

The Big Boston Media refuses to report it.

Our Initiative will create 300,000 to 500,000 news jobs in

Media refuses to report it.

Our Tax Cut Initiative is the Biggest Tax Revolt since the Boston Tea Party.

But that's not newsworthy in Boston.

We've repeatedly faxed News Releases to 587 different Massachusetts

News Reporters and Editors. TV. Radio. Newspaper.

We've telephoned Boston ABC, NBC, and CBS News Rooms. Fox. PBS.

WB-56 TV. New England Cable News. More than 100 telephone calls.

They refuse to report on our events and our successes. Refuse to interview us. Refuse to cover our Ballot Initiative to End the

Income Tax.

Or, adding insult to injury, they interview us for 2 hours for a major column in the Boston Herald, and interview us for articlesin the Boston Globe - and never print a word.

If we leave our fate in the Boston Media's hands, our End the

Income Tax Ballot Initiative is dead.

 

We could whine and complain. We could beg for coverage. We could even appeal to their sense of fair play.

No dice. It doesn't work. The Big Boston Media is trying to censor and silence us.

**The Challenge**

How do we get our message out in the face of a hostile Boston Media?

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**The Answer**

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Once the public knew that Carla Howell was in the race for U.S. Senate, the Big Boston Media couldn't get away with censoring and

ignoring her.

Once the Big Boston Media started covering Carla Howell in 2000, they couldn't stop.

**The Plan**

We have a plan to reach 2,000,000 registered voters in Massachusetts.

> >

> > 9 times each.

> >

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> >

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> >

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> >

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> >

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> >

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> >

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> > **The Price**

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> > Here's what we need now.

> > $8,000 to produce the Ads.

> > $180,000 to broadcast the Ads on Boston CBS, NBC, and ABC TV.

$10,500 to send 3 fact-filled, persuasive letters to people who respond to our Ads.

Total Amount we need now: $198,500.

The Ads are written. Ready for taping and editing.

We've charted and selected Ad purchases with Boston CBS, NBC, ABC TV Stations. We have 14 days to lock-in and pay for the Ads.

**Great News**

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On one condition.

This is matching money. They will match every dollar you donate out of their $55,500.

Every $100 you donate will be matched with a $100 of theirs.

If you've been waiting to give until your donation could make a

> > huge difference, this is the time to make that vital donation.

If you've been waiting for the right time to give again, THIS IS THE TIME TO GIVE.

> > If you've been waiting to see whether we would make the November

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Perhaps you've recently come into some extra money. A bonus. An inheritance. A settlement. A gift. Or maybe a refund.

If that kind of good fortune has come your way, will you donate a generous portion of it to advance liberty? For the chance of Ending the Income Tax?

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[Tarun 6]

Hello Everyone, Why is Mayor Bloomberg refusing to release the transcripts of the

emergency radio transmissions from the destruction of the World Trade Center?

http://www.salon.com/news/wire/2002/07/23/mayor_records/index.html

The mayor's office says it plans to keep secret hundreds of written and audio records related to the fire department's response to the Sept.11 attack on the World Trade Center.

The treasonous Mayor says it is to guarantee a fair trial to the terrorist who is going on trial. (While they keep American citizens imprisoned in FEMA camps with no habeas corpus, no charges and no

right to an attorney.)

The real reason records are being kept secret is because they would reveal numerous reports of multiple bombs going off in the World Trade Center. There is no way those buildings could have collapsed from burning jet fuel as is the bogus cover story being given. Don't believe it? Do you think the jet fuel also caused building number seven, a 47 story building to collapse in a symmetrical fashion? No aircraft hit number seven. No friends, those buildings were destroyed and the people were murdered by our own government. Firefighters and emergency workers inside the buildings reported multiple bombs going off around them.

That is what the government is concealing by refusing to release those tapes.

Those building were destroyed to justify the rapidly developing implementation of martial law which is now taking place in this

country.

They were also destroyed to give carte blanche to the imperial warmongering of the United Nations in Asia and elsewhere.

Once again please go to www.infowars.com and order Alex Jones' video:

911 The Road To Tyranny.

George Bush is a traitor and is guilty of conspiracy to commit mass murder!

Wake up friends! George Bush, John Ashcroft, and Gauleiter Tom Ridge are actively creating a fascist dictatorship here in America.

Yours truly, Ed Safra

[Tarun 6]

Hello folks, As indicated here, gun control causes a drastic increase in violent crime. Freedom to own and carry guns causes a corresponding decrease in violent crimes. Please tune in to Alex Jones show tomorrow and hear Professor Joyce Malcolm talk about her pro-gun freedom book: Guns and Violence -The English Experience. Yours truly, Edward Safranski.

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Monday, August 19, 2002 16:38

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Tomorrow on Alex Jones Show:

Professor Joyce Malcolm

Author of Guns and Violence: The English Experience

From Her Book: The peacefulness England used to enjoy was not the result of strict

gun laws. When it had no firearms restrictions England had little violent

crime, while the present extraordinarily stringent gun controls have not stopped the increase in violence or even the increase in armed violence. By opting to deprive law-abiding citizens the right to keep guns or to carry any article for defence, English government policy may actually be

contributing to the lawlessness and violence afflicting its people.

Related Article:

Lessons From History

(Malcolm) has demonstrated that the history of English gun control does not support the commonly made claim that English crime rates were (formerly) lower in England because of stricter gun controls. The rise in English crime has coincided with the growth of governmental intrusiveness where firearms are concerned.

>http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,59866,00.html

From Wall Street Journal's Review:

Today Americans own some 200 million guns and have seen eight consecutive years of declining violence, while the English--prohibited from carrying weapons and limited in their right to self-defense have suffered a dramatic increase in rates of violent crime. This timely and thought-provoking

book takes a crucial step in illuminating the actual relationship between

guns and violence in modern society.

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Hello everyone,

The new American Fuhrer, George Bush is now attacking Iraq. That is after Saddam Hussein was put into power and given most of his weapons by the good old U.S.A.

 

The next step is that the CIA is going to destroy an American city with a suitcase nuclear weapon and blame it on the Iraqis. The plan is to turn the United States into something similar to Nazi Germany. I strongly suggest you listen at least a few times to the Alex Jones radio show.

Access it at www.infowars.com

If you have any problems listening, here is a back-up link to the broadcast.

 

Dear Listeners,

Please note that due to a shake-up in the Internet world, today's show's

Internet feed will stream on a backup stream, which is located at:

http://sce3.m2ktalk.com:8010/listen.pls

Yours truly, Edward.

[Streetstraw 0]

Greetings everyone, Make no mistake about it. This recent spate of sniper shootings in the Maryland area are the work our very own federal government. How can I be so sure? Let me put it this way; If someone is found with their hands tied behind their back and a single gunshot wound to the head, the press immediately dubs it a "mob style execution." It has those characteristics. Similarly there are standard trademarks of a government operation written all over the recent sniper killings.

One. The marksman (or woman) is exceedingly accurate. One shot, one kill. These are no amateurs.

Two. Now they are starting to leave their calling card. I think it was some type of death's head tarot card. That's what special forces like to do.

Three. There never seems to be any witnesses. A lunatic would get careless. These folks are extremely professional.

Four. It just happens to fit in with the gun-grabbing purposes of disarming America. While these may seem like trivial, contrived clues, to a person who has any awareness whatsoever of what is happening in these times, it is very obvious. Now the phony conservatives, and there are far too many of them, along with the knee-jerk gun-grabbing liberals, are screaming for gun control.

They're saying a .22 caliber is "semi-silent" and should be banned.

Any deer rifle is a "sniper's gun" and should be banned. Any handgun at all is a "Saturday night special" and should of course be banned. Do you find it hard to believe that our government would kill American citizens? Come on!!! Wake up!! Open your eyes!!! Look at history!!!! There are literally hundreds of examples in which our government has orchestrated the murder of American citizens. Here are just a few.

The CIA put Ho Chi Minh in power in Vietnam. Then Lyndon Johnson fabricated the Gulf of Tonkin incident to get us involved in an illegal, undeclared war costing the lives of over a quarter of a million American soldiers and two million Vietnamese. (American deaths were 58,000 combat fatalities plus two or three hundred thousand dead from Agent Orange induced cancer or committed suicide from emotional problems. The loving feds still refuse to admit the Agent Orange-cancer connection.)

The military has done numerous biological weapons experiments on American civilians and soldiers without their permission or knowledge.

Do the research. Stop being lazy! The military used American soldiers as guinea pigs in their nuclear weapons testing. Why? Because soldiers are cheaper than laboratory animals. (Just like the scene in the movie Braveheart, with Mel Gibson. The English king orders the Irish soldiers to attack the Scots, while having his archers hold their fire. He says to his advisor; "Arrows are expensive. The Irish are cheap.") And of course there is the murder of many Americans at Waco, Ruby Ridge, Oklahoma City and the Pentagon and World Trade Center. ALL of them carried out by U.S. government agencies. Here is a prediction. Sometime soon the "Authorities" will announce that they have captured the sniper conspiracy participants. (It has to be at least two people, one shooter, one driver.) They will be either a couple of Arab men with supposed ties to Iraq or they will be a couple of white guys with a so-called history of white supremecism. There will be much media hoopla and fanfare and calls for stricter gun control. In reality MORE guns are what we need in the hands of American citizens, not the police or military. There is a systematic disinformation and terror system to disarm Americans. This is turning the once great United States into a slave state dictatorship just like so many other countries around the world.

Once again, the sniper attacks are 100% certain being carried out by the CIA, Mossad, or a Delta Force type special forces unit. It doesn't matter, they all serve the same masters, viz. The New World Order, the Illuminati. (If it is the Mossad in action, the sniper is most likely a woman, as Israel has hundreds of trained female killers in this country) One more thing to all you NRA members. There are millions of good patriots who are members of the National Rifle Association. However, in spite of Charleton Heston, the other leaders of the NRA are totally co-opted corrupt individuals who are cooperating 100% with the criminal traitors in our gun-grabbing government. Charleton Heston is the stereotypical figurehead surrounded by evil advisors. He once gave a now famous inspiring speech, which I read, extolling the virtues of gun ownership. Charleton Heston is the band-aid over the cancer. His image is being used to fool good Americans into thinking that the NRA is their friend. Actually the NRA is just another arm of the secret police, intent upon disarming all civilians. And what better way to succeed than in having a trusted organization be an enemy at heart? Remember a traitorous friend is much more dangerous than a lethal adversary who is openly hostile. Also remember, EVERY dictator is in favor of overbearing gun control laws. Once again I advise everyone to listen to Alex Jones radio show available online at www.infowars.com If there is any difficulty listening here is the link to a back-up feed...

http://sce3.m2ktalk.com:8010/listen.pls

Yours truly, Ed

[Guest guest]

 

so much speculation accepted as fact.

 

interesting to note,the gun industry is one of the

most powerfull lobbying groups in America,the banning

of guns would damage their profits,why would they support your speculations ?

 

Also the sniper shootings maybe anyone with military training,police training,or anyone who practices alot.

It wouldn't take an expert to not be spotted,

you would just have to find a hidden spot then wait for the right time.

 

While it may be what you think,don't be so emphatic

without actual facts to back it up.

 

Maybe there is something going on that is not being reported,maybe someone is blackmailing someone and trying to

force their will by killing people,there are many possible

scenarios,maybe there is an actual muslim connection,is that soooo far fetched ?

 

Always blaming 'the government' as if the government

is some one eyed monster is not very appropriate.

 

There are many different cliques and factions

and secretive goings on that you are unaware of

and therfore unable to appreciate their influence.

 

The disarming of America seems to be a delusion

by paranoid people.

America is becoming more armed not less,guns are readily available to anyone legally unless you are a felon.

Illegally guns are available also.

 

The government people are not all part of one giant conspiracy,those who are corrupted,are corrupted by many different sources,criminal organizations,corporations,

church's,blackmailers,the list go's on and on.

[ethos 0]

Shive, do you live in America? I'm just curious? ...No hidden meanings.

[Guest guest]

 

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[Streetstraw 0]

I took a day off from work today and drove to Connecticut to hear a lecture given by David Icke (pronounced Ike). It was without a doubt the absolute best lecture I have ever heard, and I've heard lots of 'em from lotsa different people. He is a former British television newscaster and he has achieved a certain amount of notoriety by his books, meant to expose the workings of the Illuminati. His website is at www.davidicke.com

>

> The lecture was from 9:00 am till 5:45 pm and was in three parts.

The first part detailed the amazing amount of holes in the official

version of

>the September 11 terrorist attacks. It was extremely similar to the

video by Alex Jones entitled, 911- The Road To Tyranny, which is available from the www.infowars.com website. The government did the terrorist attacks,

>there cannot be even the slightest doubt of that for anyone who

examines

>the evidence with an open mind. If anyone is offended by that

statement,

>I'm sorry. Not sorry because you are offended, but sorry because you

are so blind to reality that you cannot see the light of day. The government

>did it, the evidence is conclusive and overwhelming. If anyone wants

to

>pretend otherwise, that is their prerogative, and they have my deepest

>sympathy for their pathetic cowardice. The government denials and

>fabrications are ludicrous to the point of being hilarious if it wasn't for

>the extremely serious nature of their crimes. After all, they murdered over 3,000 Americans and at least twice that many Afghan civilians,

just in

>this one drama of the World Trade Center attack and the so-called

>retaliation. Of course in the last hundred years or so the various

>governments around the world, including our own, have murdered several

>hundred million of their own citizens, so why would they care if they

>murder a few thousand more?

>

He also explained how the Illuminati control all aspects of our

>society from the top down and that they take great pains to elevate

>children of their bloodline into positions of power. They are fanatically

>obsessed with lineage to the point of much inbreeding and I will

explain the reasons for that in a bit. There are an extremely small number of

them

>compared to the six billion of us, so they control mostly by

ownership.

>That is they are at the topmost decision making levels of every realm

of society. In that way their executive orders trickle down to exert

control

>in areas which would otherwise be independent. For example the

mainstream

>media is nothing more than a public relations tool for their purposes.

As always, the vast majority of the people in the media have little or no idea

>of the big picture. They think they are covering the news, but the

owners

>make the decisions as to what is considered news to get covered.

Anything they want to stress gets major coverage. Anything they want ignored

gets

>little or no coverage. In that way they exert a type of mind control

upon the entire population of the world. If people think about what they

see and hear in the media that is most definitely a type of control that

the

>media has over the minds of the population. Out of sight, out of

mind. In

>sight, in mind. They also control by ownership and topmost

influence;

>banking, politics, religion, science, medicine, technology and the

various

>militaries of the world.

> He gave a quote from George Orwell which I have to paraphrase since I

>lost the paper upon which I wrote it down...In a society built upon

>countless lies, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. By the way,

>George Orwell's real name was Eric Blair, as in Tony Blair, current

>criminal prime minister of England. His book, 1984, was based upon knowledge he gained by being in contact with the evil creatures who are intent upon bringing that world into reality. It was not idle

speculation

>which fueled his writing, but solid information obtained from inside

>sources.

>

> The second part of the lecture dealt with the nature and the

motives

>of the Illuminati. First of all, they call themselves that because

they consider themselves to be the illumined ones and the rest of us to be deliberately kept in the dark. There are many organizations under the

>aegis of that name. Some famous ones are the Masons, the

Bilderburgs, Knights Templar, and many, many others. They are illumined in the knowledge of the workings of the universe, and they strive with fanatical diligence to keep that knowledge from the rest of us. That knowledge is that our thoughts create our reality and experience. This world we

>experience with our five senses is only a tiny portion of the infinite

>vibrational spectrum. Ralph Kramden, living in The Honeymooners on

channel

>eleven has no perception whatsoever of the characters living in

Gunsmoke on

>channel nine. Similarly we live in the frequency which we call

"Reality,"

>but it is only one slice of an infinite pie. The Illuminati have the

>ability to switch between frequencies and it is their raison d'etre to

keep

>us imprisoned in this one world. In they way we can be manipulated

for

>their pleasure and servitude.

The Illuminati are mainly reptilian in nature and conceal that from us by mostly staying in what we would call the fourth dimension or the astral plane. Just as I gave the example of the different television

channels above, there are an infinite number of dimensions which we can inhabit

>according to our consciousness. In between dimensions there are "crevasses" or "netherworlds" and that is where the demons and devils of mythology reside. The Illuminati are those demons and devils. Every

>dimension of existence has an energy source. But the crevasses

between

>them don't. That is where we come in. We are the energy source for

the

>pleasures of the Illuminati. Just like the character in the movie,

Matrix,

>said to the protagonist, "This is what you are," as he held up a

battery.

>The greatest source of energy which they can draw from us is generated

by

>the emotion of fear. Which is why they keep us as subdued, dependent

and

>fearful as possible. Another good illustration was provided by the

just released children's movie, Monsters Inc. In it, the factory in the next dimension which produces the monster consumer goods needs a constant

supply of energy. That is obtained by the monsters who enter dimensional

doorways into children's bedrooms. They frighten the children and bottle their screams of terror which they then take back to the factory to keep the

>engines running. Just a silly children's tale? It is far closer to

>portraying this reality than anything else which has ever come out of

>Hollywood!

One of the reasons the Illuminati are so obsessed with

maintaining the purity of their bloodlines is because their DNA is slightly corrupted.

I think some of them are pure reptilian and some are reptilian-human

hybrids.

> Human beings with the Illuminati-corrupted DNA are more capable of

>interacting with the devils and demons who reside in the netherworlds

>between realities. Thus there is the fanatic attention given to

keeping

>the marriages within their own families. It is essential to their

>otherworldly preoccupations. That is why they are so obsessed with

>occultism, Satanism, symbols and ritual. Even modern science

recognizes

>that there are two levels to the human brain, the mammalian and the

>reptilian. The reptilian brain is most at home in the world of

ritual,

>symbolism and cold-blooded, emotionless activity. Since the

Illuminati are

>reptilian by nature, that is what they are most attracted to.

>

> In the third part of the lecture, David Icke, told us how to

escape

>from prison and how to deal with reality and the Illuminati. He said

that

>"David Icke does not exist. David Icke is just the experience that

the

>infinity which I am is having." Each of us is an expression of the

>infinite God of the universe. And each of us is having an experience

which

>we call Edward Safranski or John Smith or Sally Jones. The same is

true of

>George Bush, Tony Blair and the rest of the Illuminati. But they have

>chosen to use their power to enslave us. One reason they are so

fanatical

>about keeping us ignorant is because of the extreme difficulty of

>imprisoning an infinite being. It is like keeping a basketball on the

>bottom of the pool. You have to hold it there twenty-four hours a

day,

>seven days a week. As soon as you let go, it rockets to the top of

the

>pool and floats on the water, which is its' natural state. Similarly

it is

>our natural state to be absolutely free and living in Paradise. To

keep us

>in prison takes a lot of effort on the part of our jailers. The only

>reason they can succeed at all is because we have totally thrown away

our

>power. That power is to cultivate within ourselves unconditional

love.

>Not the love that I may feel for the tits and ass of a girl at

Hooters, but

>the love that is based upon non-judgmental perception of reality. We

can

>totally love George Bush, and Dick Cheney and all the ruthless,

>bloodthirsty sadists, criminals and murderers who are the leaders of

this

>world. We do not love their crimes, but we can love them as beings because they are also infinite expressions of the Divine Infinity that is reality.

There are four steps to that level of expressing infinite love.

One. Cease to fear what other people think of us. "What you think of me is none of my business."

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Two. Cease to be a sheep, following the will of the masses. Also cease to obey and fear the attack dogs and sheepdogs who have been

trained

>to herd us.

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Three. Respect the will of others to live their lives the way they see fit. Everyone is unique. Everyone is an infinite, divine, free

being who all have the right to express their divinity in any way they choose. In other words, refuse to be a sheepdog or an attack dog carrying out the will of the Illuminati by enforcing conformity.

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Four. Make decisions based upon what you think is absolutely right,

>not based upon what you think is right for you at the moment. As an

>example, I've been doing that myself without even being aware of it.

I've

>been distributing copies of the Alex Jones video, 911 - The Road To Tyranny, because I feel it is the right thing to do. In fact I was so

>compelled to do it that I could not stop. That is true even though I

feel there is a small chance that I may be executed or imprisoned for doing so. It is a video which exposes the Illuminati. They are absolutely ruthless in their suppression of the truth. So I gave out, and still give out, copies of that video whenever and where ever I can. That is an example of what David Icke describes as the fourth step to attaining the ability to unconditional love.

When we do all that, we free ourselves. That is my perception of the lecture I attended today. What do you think? Yours truly, Ed

[Streetstraw 0]

>Hello everyone, Is this the future of crowd control in the United States? Yours truly, Ed.

>-

>Violet Jones

>infowarsnews@

>Monday, October 28, 2002 11:59

>[infowarsnews] So-Called Non-Lethal Weapons

>www.infowars.com

So-Called Non-Lethal Weapons

Reports All State That the Majority of Hostages Were Killed by the Gas Weapon Used By Russian Special Forces. CNN Reported on Sunday That It Was Still Uncertain Which Type of "Non-Lethal" Gas Had Been Used -- a Hallucinogenic Gas or an Aerosolized Form of Valium. Remember -- These Are The Same "Non-Lethal" Weapons Being Proposed for Use in the US for "Crowd Control" and Other Police State Purposes.

150 of the Hostages Died from the Gas and 1 from a Gunshot. Still, the Government Used the Gas Because It Was Safer for Its Pampered Special Forces Thugs.

 

The US Is Silent on Russia's Use of Gas, Because the Police State Arsenals of Both Countries Contain the Same Garbage The White House refused to criticize Russian special forces for pumping a mysterious sleeping gas into a theater to end a hostage siege, killing 116 hostages.

 

>Manufactured Crisis?

>Now Putin Vows to Crush the Rebels, the Police State Intensifies in Russia,

>and the Russian Military Gets More Power-- Don't Forget, Putin Security Forces Were Caught Bombing 3 Apartment Buildings in '99. Now We Find

Out, FSB Knew about the Terrorist Acts Beforehand. Did They Know about Them, or Were They Complicit in Them?

Alex Says He Wouldn't Put It Past Putin to Have Dressed Up FSB in Black Ski Masks That Posed as Chechnyans to Create This Crisis. At Zero Hour, the Russian Security Service, Posing as Chechynans Would Have Donned Gas Masks, Then Activating the Gas Bombs So They Could Properly Stage the Crime Scene and Set a Precedent That It's Alright to Kill 150 Innocent People "As Long As You're Fighting the Rebels."

>

>infowarsnews-@

[ethos 0]

Streetstraw, I don't know why you replied to me. I'm trying to stay out of things. Remember?

 

I think you didn't understand my intention above.

 

Just for the record, I think everything is a conspiracy, especially where government and business is concerned.

 

Hare Krsna!

[Streetstraw 0]

Here is a link to an article from Slate, the Microsoft Network news opinion column. They are about as mainstream as you can get. Even they admit that Henry Kissinger is a murderer and liar. To appoint him as head of the September 11 investigation is a further obvious attempt to

>cover up who the real criminals and terrorists are. Having Kissinger head

>up the terrorist investigation is like appointing John Gotti to investigate alleged Mafia activities in Brooklyn. It's like appointing Ted Bundy to investigate the serial murders of young ladies across the country.

It's like having the fox investigate the missing chickens in the hen house.

>You get the idea. George Bush is a traitor and a mass murderer and he has "appointed" one of his criminal superiors to investigate the crime.

Yours truly, Edward.

>P.S. I advise everyone to get and read: Alice In Wonderland And The World

>Trade Center Disaster - Why The Official Story Of 9/11 Is A Monumental Lie,

>by David Icke. It is available at www.davidicke.com for $30.00 plus shipping. Also get and watch the video 911 - The Road To Tyranny by Alex Jones, available at www.infowars.com There is not the slightest doubt

>that the federal government, carrying out their orders from the world bankers, carried out the September 11 terrorist attacks.

>http://slate.msn.com/?id=2074678

[Guest guest]

Slate is one of the most extreme left wing rags published. But now that it is bankrupt, and shares sell for less than a penny, no one expect fools and losers read it.

 

Try reading something really maintstream, like the AP:

 

Saddam Hussein almost certainly has a nuclear weapons capability, in addition to extensive chemical and biological arsenals, say former intelligence experts familiar with Iraqi weapons programs. The question, they say, is whether that capability is limited to small ``dirty bombs,'' in which conventional explosives are packed into something compact like a suitcase and detonated to spread toxic radioactive debris over a relatively small area, or whether Iraq has a full-fledged atomic bomb.

 

The experts were interviewed by The Tampa Tribune as U.N. weapons inspectors returned to Iraq in a new effort to root out weapons of mass destruction.

 

Among them was Bill Tierney, a member of the last U.N. weapons inspection team in Iraq. He was there in 1997 and 1998 and said Saddam probably has a small atomic bomb.

 

``The Iraqis still have weapons of mass destruction,'' said Tierney, who lives in the Tampa Bay area. ``They have tons of chemical weapons. I'm not sure how much biological weapons are there, but I think he has nukes that can go.''

 

Tierney also said he believes Saddam is close to having a missile delivery system for a nuclear warhead. He says the U.N. inspectors in Iraq four years ago found designs for missiles similar to those other countries use for nuclear warheads.

 

``I am solidly convinced, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that Saddam Hussein has a weapons of mass destruction program,'' says Dave Suban, who also lives in the area. ``We've seen him use these weapons on his own people. Does he have a nuclear, biological and chemical program? I'm absolutely certain he does.''

 

Suban, however, believes Saddam's nuclear ability is limited to dirty bombs.

 

Suban retired in 1997 after a career in Air Force intelligence and civilian employment as an expert on terrorism and weapons of mass destruction with the U.S. Special Operations Command at MacDill Air Force Base in Tampa.

 

Wil Charette, who helped establish the CIA's Counterterrorist Center in 1987 and led its Terrorist Incident Response Team for seven years, agrees with Suban.

 

``I would think by now he has enough components for a dirty bomb,'' Charette said. ``For something like that, he probably has more expertise available than material, because Saddam has surrounded himself with very intelligent people. Whether it's assembled and ready to go, my feeling is yes.''

 

What The CIA Says

 

The Bush administration has not commented publicly on Iraq's supposed nuclear capability.

 

The CIA's latest publicly released evaluation of Iraqi weapons capabilities is from Oct. 11.

 

Iraq continues to move ahead with various chemical weapons programs, is investing more heavily in biological weapons and has energized its missile program, the report said.

 

Analysts also say that while Iraq is pushing ahead to develop nuclear weapons, that country still lacks the required weapons grade raw material. Once Saddam gets that, the report said, Iraq probably could make a bomb in about a year.

 

Tierney said he believes Saddam ``has nukes he has bought on the black market, the man-packs or `suitcase nukes.' Organized crime is very active in Russia, and Saddam is a buyer. That makes me lean toward the fact that he does have them.''

 

It is rumored that as many as 165 such small nuclear bombs disappeared as the Soviet Union broke up, and that organized crime elements might have spirited them to foreign buyers.

 

It is no secret Iraq has tried to develop a nuclear arsenal. After the Persian Gulf War in 1991, U.S. intelligence officials thought Iraq was still at least 10 years from one. But in 1994, Khidhir Abdul Abas Hamza, an Iraqi nuclear scientist, fled the country and reported Iraq had been on the brink of building a bomb when the Gulf War started. The war delayed it, he said.

 

Even if Iraq has nothing more sophisticated than dirty bombs, one question is whether Saddam would use them against invading allied troops.

 

Charette doesn't think so. He said the terror value of the weapon is so great, Iraq probably would try to plant one inside the United States or Europe instead.

 

``Its real value is the psychological effect,'' Charette says. ``Whether there's a lot of damage or not, it creates fear.''

 

Terrorists tried using a dirty bomb once before. In 1996, a 30-pound bomb made of a blend of dynamite and radioactive cesium 137 was found before it went off in a park in Moscow. It had been planted by rebels from Chechnya.

 

The Other Weapons

 

Whatever Iraq's nuclear capability, to experts there is no question it has pressed ahead with chemical and biological weapons.

 

The CIA report said Iraq's chemical arsenal probably includes mustard gas, sarin, cyclosarin and VX nerve agents.

 

Meanwhile, its biological program is larger and more advanced than before the Gulf War, and includes such agents as anthrax. After the head of Iraq's military industries defected in 1995, Iraq admitted it had produced more than 30,000 liters of anthrax and other deadly biological agents. Iraqi officials admitted to U.N. inspectors the program involved finding ways to launch these agents by missile.

 

The inspectors concluded Iraq was trying to minimize its efforts and likely had produced two to four times what it was acknowledging.

 

Finding The Truth

 

Iraq is believed to have buried weapons facilities underground. Others are in mobile labs or packed into civilian areas to discourage attacks out of fear of making a targeting mistake. Saddam began pursuing that tactic in the 1990s, apparently after noting a U.S. reluctance to attack civilian areas in Bosnia and Kosovo.

 

``I don't think we're going to be able to come up with enough to say, `Ah ha, we got you.' '' Charette said. ``I'm losing my faith in our ability to find what he has.

 

``I don't believe we'll be able to dig holes deep enough to find this stuff. And, of course, some of this is mobile, so he can just keep moving it around.''

 

Suban said that when U.N. inspectors were expelled from Iraq in 1998, they were close to finding a ``smoking gun'' that would prove Saddam's arsenal.

 

Former inspector Tierney said every chemical and biological weapon Iraq has or makes is a direct violation of the agreement that ended the Gulf War in 1991, ample reason for the United States to move against Iraq now.

 

``It's time to go to war,'' he said. ``It's time to solve this issue.''