Jahnava Nitai Das Posted June 21, 2000 Report Share Posted June 21, 2000 > I have heard that there will be a Rama, in every Tretha Yuga, > with the same events and incidents in Life. Is this true? The incarnations of the Lord are categorical and cyclical. They appear in particular periods for particular purposes. This is why Lord Krishna says in the Bhagavad Gita "sambhavami yuge yuge", in each yuga the Lord comes. There are generally 24 categories of incarnations that appear in every day of Brahma (1,000 divya yugas). Some of these incarnations appear in every yuga, some others are very special incarnations that appear only once in the day of Brahma. The Rama incarnation occurs in every Treta Yuga. The lila is basically the same in every Treta Yuga with minor differences (yuga-bheda). This is one reason why the descriptions of the same story will differ in various Puranas. One Purana will be describing an incarnation that took place in one yuga, while another Purana will be describing the same incarnation that took place in another yuga. In the Rama lila, Jambavan plays a very special role. He is a son of Brahma, and he is existing in the same body from the beginning of the universe until the end. He takes part in every Rama incarnation in the same body. Thus he knows ahead of time exactly what will happen. He knows Ravana will kidnap Sita, Hanuman will burn Lanka, and the Vanara army will fight with Ravana. Everything he has done many, many times. But he pretends not to know to keep the mood fit for the pastimes. In other yugas there are also similar recuring incarnations. The Buddha avatara appears in most Kali yugas to bewilder the atheists. In the Srimad Bhagavatam there are two different Buddha incarnations described. Some incarnations, like the Varaha incarnation are more rare. In Srimad Bhagavatam we have reference to two Varaha incarnations, one in the Padma Kalpa (first day in the life of Brahma), and one in the present Kalpa. In one incarnation Varaha is white, in another He is red color. In one of the incarnations he came for lifting the earthly planet out of the universal waters, in the other incarnation he came for fighting with Hiranyaksha. These incarnations took place with a huge interval of time between them (aproximately 155 trillion years), yet the Srimad Bhagavatam described them as one incarnation. This is because they were of the same category. > Does this mean that all the Tretha Yugas are exactly identical ? > Also the Kaliyugas ? The various yugas are basically the same, just as the seasons are the same each year. The histories will differ from age to age, but the overall qualities of nature will remain the same. J.N.Das Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animesh Posted April 14, 2001 Report Share Posted April 14, 2001 Bhagwatam mentions that Matsya avatar took place near the end of sixth Manavantara. It also mentions that there was dissolution of the lower three lokas at that time. In one day of Brahma there are 14 Manus. Also the dissolution takes place when Brahma's day is over and night starts. Since there are 14 Manus in a day of Brahma, it must have been a little before Brahma's afternoon during the time of Matsya incarnation. So, how come there was a universal dissolution? In one place, Bhagwatam mentions that Matsya incarnation took place during the time of sixth (Chakshush) Manu and somewhere else it mentions that it took place in previous kalpa. Are these two different incarnations? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animesh Posted April 14, 2001 Report Share Posted April 14, 2001 [by jndas ji] In Srimad Bhagavatam we have reference to two Varaha incarnations, one in the Padma Kalpa (first day in the life of Brahma), and one in the present Kalpa. [/by jndas ji] According to Bhagwatam, first day in the life of Brahma is called as Brahma kalpa and not Padma kalpa. Padma kalpa refers to the last day of the first Parardha of Brahma's life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jahnava Nitai Das Posted April 14, 2001 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2001 <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>In one place, Bhagwatam mentions that Matsya incarnation took place during the time of sixth (Chakshush) Manu and somewhere else it mentions that it took place in previous kalpa. Are these two different incarnations?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Yes. These are two different matsya avataras. <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>...it must have been a little before Brahma's afternoon during the time of Matsya incarnation. So, how come there was a universal dissolution?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> There are different categories of pralaya. At the end of every manvantara there is a minor pralaya, at the end of every kalpa (day of Brahma) there is a greater pralaya, and at the end of the life of Brahma there is the maha-pralaya. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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