Guest guest Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 can anyone explain how the universe come into exixtence and why and when ? when did first living organism appeared on earth? when it came and why ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samkhya Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 Why do you suppose that the universe has to come into existence? Can't it exist from all eternity? As to the appearance of living organisms, ask scientists. Do a google search and choose scientific websites. But the most questionable part of your message is the "why". Why must there be a why? Why do you assume that there is a cosmic purpose? In my opinion, matter (prakriti) was not created by God (Ishwara). Prakriti does not exist for a purpose. Ishwara is the Lord, but she has limited powers. The goal is to get free from the bondage of matter and to unite with Ishwara. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 hi all, please note : if anyone do not know the answer to my question , please keep their mouth shut and do not diver the topic. why we ask WHO and why can't we just happy with answers from HOW to explain anything in this universe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narayanadasa Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 Jai Sriman Narayana: The universe has no known beginning.. only Lord Narayana knows if there indeed is a beginning. But, it is created, maintained and destroyed regularly and this cycle continues eternally too. Note that this is not the only universe according to Sastra...there are millions of universes. For creation, according to Srimad Bhagavatam Bhagavan Sri Krishna first manifests the aakasha (sky, ether) from which comes vayu (air), after which comes Agni (fire), after that Jala (water), then Prakriti (earth), then plants, animals etc. So, as we can see God provided what living beings needs before he manifested them. More info in Srimad Bhagvatam 2nd cantos 5th and 6th chapters. Aakasha = Sound = False ego Vayu = Aakasha + sense of touch Agni = Vayu + sense of form Jala = Agni + sense of taste Prithvi = Jala + sense of smell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurukul Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 Namaste guest God is uncaused cause since all the things created in the world needs a cause.? To understand it we dont start from God to world but from the seen reality of the world we go back looking for a cause.finally ending up positing that there need to be something very powerful that must have cause all these things which must be uncaused. because if we ask the question who created God then we look back infinitely asking what caused each thing.which is an impossibilty. secondly scientifically the universe has a beginning-it started at a point of time and that which started at a point of time will also have an end since again scientifically the universe is expanding to an end. if the universe would have been for eternity with infinite number of years then we would not have arrive at this point because as per the law of entropy the energy in the universe is decreasing.scientifically infinite energy does not exisit in the universe. So everything that has beginning and end is always created. I am always attracted towards the answer given in the holy bible of God making the universe and all living beings at a point of time and will end one day so as to have a new beginning with the creator.hence the purpose is enjoying God and his creation though distorted by sin and human negligence.For surely one day all these will come to an end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barney Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 hi all, please note : if anyone do not know the answer to my question , please keep their mouth shut and do not diver the topic. why we ask WHO and why can't we just happy with answers from HOW to explain anything in this universe. ------------------------------ From the relative point of view, creation is without beginning. The human mind cannot think of the beginning of time or space. If a limit is arbitrarily set, one can conceive of time or space beyond that as well. Likewise, there is no such thing as absolute destruction. Vedanta speaks of the manifestation and the non-manifestation of the universe. In the former state things are seen in their tangible form, and in the latter they remain as seeds. These two states are called the "day of Brahma" and the "night of Brahma." The period of manifestation is called a kalpa, or cycle (One kalpa consists of 4,320,000,000 years. Two kalpas make a day and night of Brahma of 8,640,00,000 years.360 such days make one year of Brahma. 100 such years constitute Brahma’s lifetime of 311,040, 000,000,000 years. Whenever the creation of the world is spoken of, what is really meant is the beginning of a cycle. A new cycle begins by the will of Isvara (Saguna Brahman,), and its character is determined by the accumulated actions of the living beings of the previous cycle. (For explanations on ‘Isvara’ see page ‘Nature of Reality’; refer to the column on the left). Mere matter, without the help of consciousness or intelligence, cannot precipitate creation. Whether the created beings in a particular cycle will be happy or unhappy, wise or ignorant, is determined by the law of karma. In discussing creation or evolution, it should be remembered that according to Vedanta it is the illusory superimposition upon Brahman of names and forms. That is to say, owing to maya Pure Intelligence, or Brahman, appears as Brahman with attributes, further appears through maya as the undifferentiated prakriti. This process of illusory superimposition is to be applied to all stages of evolution.] t is well known that any creative work is preceded by deep thinking. The object is at first conceived in the mind of the creator; then it is given a tangible form. The universe is the outcome of the thought of the Creator. In describing the act of creation, the Upanishad says: "He thought." The difference, however, between a human creation and the divine creation is that the former is the result of much effort and labour, whereas, the latter is the spontaneous manifestation of Brahman. "Devasya esha svabhavah-" All this is the very nature of Brahman. The Upanishad gives a spiritual interpretation of the creation as opposed to a mechanistic one.] The Blessed Lord said: Those people who know the day of Brahma which is of a duration of a thousand yugas (ages) and the night which is also of a thousand yugas’ duration, they know day and night. (Gita, Ch. 8, Verse 17) [Note: Day means evolution or projection or manifestation of the universe. Night means involution of the universe known as pralaya. The worlds are limited or conditioned in time. Therefore they return again. The world of Brahma (Brahmaloka or Satyaloka) is also transient, although it lasts for a thousand ages. When the four great yugas have gone round a thousand times, it makes a day time of Brahma and when an equal number of yugas pass again it makes a night. Those who can see and live through the day and night of Brahma can really know what is a day and what is a night.] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 "From the relative point of view, creation is without beginning.The human mind cannot think of the beginning of time or space" CYCLIC EVOLUTION/CREATION IS AN SPECULATION AND NOT SCIENTIFIC FACT.THERE ARE NO EVIDENCES OR TRACES OF CYCLIC CREATION.REALITY AND SCIENCE TELLS OF A BEGINNING AND THE WORLD MOVING TOWARDS AN END. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 Creation we live will remain for 311 trillion 40 billion year. Brahma is around 50 therefore we have reached half of the age expectance. The other half still to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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