anyone to disprove this?

[thiruvengadam]

RIGVEDA http://www.shaivam.org/shpvediy.htm

 

"God, verily, is one, though variously described since the functions are manifold and His divine attributes many. Compareed to Him, we, the tiny little selves, are infinitesimals whilst He is Infinity in all positive parameters. To this divine one, ....., in the words of the Vedic texts, offers invocations in various adjectivals and adveribials, according to His attributes and functions. So often, we prefer to call Him agni, the foremost adorable, sometimes indra, the most resplendent, sometimes varuNa, or the most venerable, sometimes as aryaman, the supreme law-giver; He alone is the divine virility and vitality in us, and is therefore known as rudra; He verily, is the savitR, since everything is born of Him; He is divya, or effulgent; He is the law-abider, and hence is known as yama; He alone is the measure and a benevolent friend to us, and hence, His name is mitra; He is the supreme Lord and therefore bRihaspati and brahman; He pervades the entire universe and hence He is viShNu; He is blissful and hence known as soma and on account of His benevolence and kindness, He is called, shiva, shankara and mayaskara. The Veda stands for the purest type of monotheism. Here er have a few texts to corroborate this concept.

1. tvamagne rAja varuNo dhRitavratastvam mitro bhavasi dasma IdyaH |

tvamaryamA satpatiryasya sambhujam tvamamsho vidathe deva bhAjayuH ||

God alone is one, though known as agni, king varuNa, mitra, aryaman or amsa.

 

2. tvamagne rudro asuro mahodivastvam shardho mArutam pRiksha IshiShe |

tvam vAtairaruNairyAsi shamgayastvam pUShA vidhataH pAsi nu tmanA ||

God is also known as agni, rudra, mahah asura, (ahur mazda) and pusan.

 

3. tvamagne draviNodA aramkRite tvam devaH savitA ratnadhA asi |

tvam bhago nRipate vasva IshiShe tvam pAyurdame yasteavidhat ||

God is agni, dravinoda (the giver of wealth), deva, savitR, ratnadha (the store of gems), bhaga (effulgent), and nRpati (lord of men).

 

4. indram mitram varuNamagnimAhuratho divyaH sa suparNo gurutmAn |

ekam sad viprAH bahudhA vadantyagnim yamam mAtarishvAnamAhuH ||

He is one, though seers call Him with various names, such as indra, mitra, varuNa, agni, divya, suparNa, garutmAn, yama and mAtarishvan.

 

5. tadevAgnistadAdityastdvAyustadu candramA |

tadeva shukram tad brahma tA ApaH sa prajApatiH ||

He alone is agni, the same He is aditya, the same one is known as vayu and candrama. He again is the same one known as sukra, brahman, Apar, or prajApati.

 

 

It is very clear from the above that Vedas priase only the Supreme reality. The various names used in the vedas like agni, indra are all the powers and perspectives of the same Supreme Lord shiva.

 

If we look at who these devas are, it is not hard to find that they are the (masters of the) elements which are essential for the life to go on. For example agni is heat, vayu is air, varuNa is water etc. These are nothing but the authorities provided by the Supreme for the smooth running of this Universe system, It has devised. These glorious God given powers are told and hailed in the vedas. "

 

[Guest guest]

i read the verses you have posted and i do not see in them the conclusion that Sri Shiva is supreme

[Ganeshprasad]

Jai Ganesh

 

(i read the verses you have posted and i do not see in them the conclusion that Sri Shiva is supreme)

 

I read the verses and see that the one supreme goes by those names.

If you can conclude the supreme, then he can not be the supreme.

Are you envious of Lord Shiva?

 

Jai Shree Krishna

[Guest guest]

Are you envious of Lord Shiva?

 

of course if i am in the material world i am envious and fallen...

 

but again this verses do not demonstrate the supremacy of lord shiva... it is not my fault

[Guest guest]

I pity u......why confuse by all this? neither u support Shiva or Vishnu but simply equate them even to Indra,bundra and agni.

 

U first read differences in constitutional positions of Shiva,Vishnu as compared to Brahma,Agni,Indra etc.

 

And u bet to disprove ur stupid discussion also

[thiruvengadam]

the above quote is not mine....if u open ur eyes wide and see then u can find something written on the top.....the quote is from Rigveda......

 

O great of the Greatest i bow my head to u for u have great courage in calling what the Rigveda has said to be "stupid discussion".....i have great admirations for ur intellect....

 

just to help u read the quote....

 

if u properly read the quote then u will understand that shiva and vishnu are not compared to brahma or agini....infact there is no comparision.....it only implies that God is one....his power to create is called brahma, his power of burning is called agni.....

 

good that u can read lines but pity that u cant read inbetween lines.....now dont ask me what is reading inbetween lines is....

 

"neither u support shiva or vishnu"

 

what can i do but to laugh at ur ignorance....dont u see the pure advaita concept in it? God is one but the wise see him in many forms.....

the problem is u want to confine God within few sketches....He is infinite.....He is above all religions (showing equal grace to all) and is above all aspects....He is the concept of all concepts....do u know the truth? this is what is hinduism's main essence is......believ it or not that is up to u....but truth is truth