Guest guest Posted March 3, 2005 Report Share Posted March 3, 2005 what is the view of hinduism on 1.Abortion 2.Divorce 3.polygyny 4.polyandry. 5.misogyny 6.cloning humans 7.research on animals 8.terrorism 9.gay marriage 10.suicide 11.torture by police and military on terrorists 12.hindi as national language 13.democracy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maadhav Posted March 3, 2005 Report Share Posted March 3, 2005 1.Abortion: is sin 2.Divorce: Be smart before you marry, but can devorce if really necessary. 3.polygyny: allowed for kshatriyas 4.polyandry: If it means more husbands, then it is not practiced in general. 5.misogyny: ? 6.cloning humans: for what purpose? 7.research on animals: if not cruel 8.terrorism: define it before an answer can be given. 9.gay marriage: sin 10.suicide: sin 11.torture by police and military on terrorists: if the terrorists are adharmi asuras, then no problem. 12.hindi as national language: it is. most indian langages have relation with sanskrit, and grammer is same. 13.democracy: it is a consequence of time - kali yuga. People however were more happy in the vedic times where kings ruled. Most kings had an assembly of representatives of the people as his advisors. so, in essence it was a democracy - rule of the people. so, how hinduism scores in your mind? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2005 Report Share Posted March 3, 2005 Why shld there a religious stand on national language, i dont understand the question here. Indian constitution doesnt term Hindi as National Language . Dravidian languages have nothing in common to hindi especially tamil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2005 Report Share Posted March 3, 2005 "Misogyny: ? " Misogyny means hatred for women, or treating them as lower-class citizens. The media and history books like to portray Hinduism as misogynistic, but it's not. It doesn't make sense for Hinduism to hate women, if it has female Goddesses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2005 Report Share Posted March 3, 2005 1.Abortion abortion is one of the greatest sins. in the mahabarata, krishna curses ashwathama (sp?) for killing an unborn child 2.Divorce hindu's dont believe in divorce. they believe a union is for good, but with western culture creeping into india, divorce rates are growing, especially with a more modernistic view about arranged marriages 3.polygyny hindu's do not believe in having more then one wife at a time. if it happened, that was the old ages. 4.polyandry forbidden 5.misogyny hindu's believe women are equal. in the household, the woman is the sustainer and nurturer, the man is the provider. not to be confused with the whole dowry money arrangement thing which is not religion related. there are no stereotypes. females are revered as much as the males in hinduism lore, with many demigods having female counterparts. 6.cloning humans ive never read anything talking about this but im sure a hindus views wont be much different to the rest of the sane world. cloning is not ethical. god chooses the wombs in which those souls are ready for birth. for men to manipulate the carrier of the soul is not right, it makes for a corrupted population. 7.research on animals do you mean experimentation on animals? this is also unethical as hindu's believe all creatures have souls. in the gita it says the wise / liberated man sees with the same eye, a saint, a dog, and a dog eater (man of lower class). 8.terrorism violence is not condoned in hinduism. simply because krishna urged arjuna to war, this isnt to be taken literally, it's more a metaphor for the battle of good against evil. hindu's are taught to perform their duty for the greater good, but it must be with purity of intent and purpose. 9.gay marriage there is no information as far as i know of homosexuality or homosexual marriages are allowed or not. hinduism is not like christianity in the sense that it tries to control and filter your life. the gita warns us against lust and desire, as well as passion and the associated ignorance that comes from all of the above. if one is in a relationship which is pure and not material, without lust or unconscionable acts of lewdness, then it is okay. 10.suicide to take ones own life in christianity is seen as a sin. in hinduism we are taught through the gita that each of us has a soul, which contains a small portion of the supreme. the christianity, they believe each soul is a part of the holy spirit also. it is said in the gita that there are 5 conditions that must be met before a person is urged to action. if all 5 conditions are met, then a person will act. i dont know all the conditions but one of them is destiny / fate. if a persons action drives them to suicide, it could possibly be their inevitable fate or karma towards a greater good. in the ancient times, it was acceptable for criminals to be killed for crimes, not as a punishment, but to purge them from collecting bad karma. the soul that is kept imprisoned for a crime is only encouraged to build up more ignorance, and his path upon death would lead him to lower births. there are however many myths in which, mainly females, have taken their own lives to 'save face'. 11.torture by police and military on terrorists not accepted. 12.hindi as national language not sure about this one, im sure it's fine! i guess hindi must be closest to sanskrit? which is the oldest language in the world. 13.democracy dunno bout politics, sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maadhav Posted March 4, 2005 Report Share Posted March 4, 2005 << Misogyny means hatred for women, or treating them as lower-class citizens. >> then it is not in hinduism. vedic word is: yatra nryastu pujyante ramant tatra devatAh vedic people respect women very much, and care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maadhav Posted March 4, 2005 Report Share Posted March 4, 2005 to learn a language is to learn a culture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2005 Report Share Posted March 4, 2005 I hope what you said applies to hindi speakers learning other indian languages not like one way traffic . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2005 Report Share Posted March 4, 2005 "hindu's dont believe in divorce. " I thought that was just more of a cultural thing? Can you show me a verse where it explicitly says not to do it? This Hindu girl's website says that there are 8 types of marriages described in the Manusamhita and Arthashastra. According to the laws prescribed, a woman can divorce her husband and remarry if he's an evil-liver. In other circumstances, the Arthashastra says that divorce can take place only within mutual consent. I haven't read the hard copies of the scriptures, so feel free to clarify if this Hindu woman's claims are wrong. http://www.hinduweb.org/home/general_sites/hinduwoman/hinduWomenVsMuslimWomen.htm Personally, I think that it would be a cruel violation of human rights to forbid a woman to divorce her abusive husband, and have to stay with him for the rest of her life. If divorce is absolutely necessary and is intefering with one to live a peaceful life/attain spiritual enlightenment, then do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2005 Report Share Posted March 4, 2005 Back to the topic of women, Jumping Jupiter-you should also know that there are verses that say that men have to keep their women happy, so that the "gods" will be happy in return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2005 Report Share Posted March 4, 2005 I concur with your points, hinduism say A man shld perform his duties towards his wife and the wife get her rights automatically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2005 Report Share Posted March 5, 2005 "1.Abortion abortion is one of the greatest sins. in the mahabarata, krishna curses ashwathama (sp?) for killing an unborn child" Wrong. That's not abortion as Ashwattama wasn't pregnant with the child. He was guilty of MURDER, not abortion. And the Mahabharata does not present a case of abortion, at least that I can see. Ganga kills her own children upon birth, but she gave birth to them before killing them. In that respect, it's murder, not abortion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maadhav Posted March 7, 2005 Report Share Posted March 7, 2005 just recently i read in atharva veda a couple of verses. they indicate that a vedic woman was free to separate from her husband if he would not treat her well, and she was free to choose another man as husband. this new couple then could go to a brahmana for some rite for happy married life. the husband also could undergo a rite by which he would make her wife love him more than her former husband. a vedic person does not marry just for sex, or does not divorce just for sex enjoyment. i have seen one case of a merchant (in our time) whose first wife had some physical problem and would not conceive. so, she allowed her husband to marry another woman, and he agreed to let her first wife live with him and care her, but would not sleep with her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2005 Report Share Posted March 7, 2005 Madhav If in the same case , if the problem lies with the man, can the wife marry another man and live with him in the same house with her former husband and not have sex with him. If this not allowed then its pure male chauvanistic laws. Now a woman have to divorce her current husband to get married again, not the same case with men Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2005 Report Share Posted March 7, 2005 I don't see why not a man can't do the same. I think the reason why a woman's case was addressed is because traditional Indian culture From what I see, it's culturally acceptable for a Hindu man to divorce his wife and remarry. My friend's mom divorced her physically abusive husbands, and her family was very angry. What's ironic is that her ex-husband was already divorced, before he married my friend's mom. Her family didn't care that he was divorced. They ordered my friend's mom to marry the man anyway. The problem is too many people confuse Hindu culture with religion. Anti-Hindus assume that Hinduism forbids women to divorce/remarry, and think that the scriptures say it's okay for a Hindu man to do anything he wants. Remember, people think that widows have to jump in the fire, but they know that men didn't commit such an act. This is why I specifically stated the divorce guidelines for women. Only if my auntie's family was aware of this. Please tell me that a lot of Indians are aware of this, or do they seriously think that it's a horrible sin for Hindu women to get divorced? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2005 Report Share Posted March 7, 2005 "I think the reason why a woman's case was addressed is because traditional Indian culture " What I meant to say in the first sentence is that traditional Indian culture frowns on women getting divorced/remarried, but it's more tolerable for the men. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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