Guest guest Report post Posted January 13, 2005 patram puspam phalam toyam yo me bhaktya prayacchati tad aham bhakty-upahrtam asnami prayatatmanah It is right. So, you should also consider other shastric forms of sacrifice wherein flesh is involved. The truth is Brahman is food and Brahman eats food. Plants also are living. Whatever you eat, if you offer it to Vaisnavara, it is purified. You understand. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 14, 2005 thats the whole point. swamiji extols us to attain to atleast the fifth level first before trying to be hypocritical and think that we are at higher levels. many of us dont even come into any levels...we might be in the sixth or seventh level. any being endowed with severe tamas may hypocritically think its the calmness of sattva. loose ur false understanding and try to understand the great man's ideas. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 15, 2005 even vegetarians kill and eat --if you feel the difference between killing a baby or a cow, you feel also the difference between killing a cow or an eggplant. no action in this world is pure... --but making our best to be pure, god will give to us purity, freedom, illumination, bliss and so on what matters is whether WE are demons...or can be gods. --so let us stop to be demons and behave like god suggests... "patram puspam phalam toyam" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 15, 2005 "In areas with no vegetation, what will a man do? In times of scarcity what a man will do? " when we'll be in emergency it will be obvious what to do.. but let us speak of everyday's life Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 15, 2005 patram puspam phalam toyam yo me bhaktya prayacchati tad aham bhakty-upahrtam asnami prayatatmanah It is right. So, you should also consider other shastric forms of sacrifice wherein flesh is involved. ••if you can be initiated to these practices by a true saint of a valid parampara or directly by the lord with the guarantee that you will attain liberation by these jagnas,if you will really kill these animals with the real desire do act for their advantage, if that animals will have material or spiritual advantage by this.. you have my approvation. If you are seeking justifications to go to macdonald i do not agree.. The truth is Brahman is food and Brahman eats food. Plants also are living. ••be coherent with your everyday life.. your arm is brahman but you do not eat it and you do not eat your wife and sons ..and they are surely brahman.. Whatever you eat, if you offer it ••the offering is pure if it is desired by the deity.. krsna says what he wants, if i want really to serve and be purified (sarva dharma... surrender, i will free you..) i have to offer what he asks..not what i like to eat for my gratification krsna says "bhaktya.." = with love, devotion, wanting to satisfy the beloved (krsna)... not ourselves Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 15, 2005 any being endowed with severe tamas may hypocritically think its the calmness of sattva. so let us start to behave in a satvik way so we will not be hypochrit anymore Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 16, 2005 behaving itself is hypocritical. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 17, 2005 it is applying rationality to our actions.. that's essential for material and spiritual life and advancement Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 17, 2005 here behaving is in the sense of being something or projecting ourselves something as...what we truly dont believe in or what we truly are not. its like a mask. thats hypocritical. applying rationality to further advancement is different thing altogether. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 17, 2005 and spiritual advancement depends from ideas, culture and behaviour a spiritual master in vedic tradition is called "acharya" ... "the one who teachs the right behaviour" or "who teachs with right behaviour" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 18, 2005 what defines acharya is fine...that behaviour is different. the behaviour of hypocrisy is different. the former is a genuine effort...the latter is a shallow mask. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 18, 2005 "the behaviour of hypocrisy is different." so do not behave with hypochrisy, where's the problem? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
