aryan invasion

[Guest guest]

in short, can someone sum up the basis of the aryan invasion theory and why so many peoplethink its not true....i get confused thinking about it sometimes. im not exactly sure what people think of it.

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Written in blood New Scientist vol 170 issue 2291 - 19 May 2001, page 17

 

The origins of India's rigid caste system are confirmed by DNA tests

 

UPPER-CASTE Indians are genetically more like Europeans, while members of India's lower castes are more like other Asians, says an international team of researchers.

 

"It seems to confirm much of the research that basically has drawn from linguistic analysis and theories about the movements of people into South Asia," says Robert Hardgrave of the University of Texas, Austin, who has written extensively on India and its caste system. Based on such evidence, most historians believe that waves of Indo-European-speaking people from eastern Europe and the Caucasus set up the caste system as they moved into the Indian subcontinent about 5000 years ago.

 

"When the Aryans came in, they brought with them a social hierarchy," says Hardgrave. "We have some historical and archaeological evidence which suggests that as the Aryans came in, they intermarried with indigenous people and also absorbed many of them into their system of ranking."

 

Some people dismiss this theory as a myth, claiming it "devalues" India's history. Now, however, genetic studies have produced strong evidence supporting the theory. A team led by Michael Bamshad of the University of Utah in Salt Lake City compared the DNA of 265 Indian men from different castes with DNA from nearly 750 African, European, Asian and other Indian men.

 

First, they analysed mitochondrial DNA, which people only inherit from their mothers. When the researchers looked at specific sets of genes that tend to be inherited as a unit, they found about 20 to 30 per cent of the Indian sets resembled those in Europeans. The percentage was highest in upper caste males. Overall, though, each caste resembled other Asians most.

 

Next, the team studied genetic variations in the Y chromosome, which is inherited from the father. "We saw a strikingly different pattern," says Bamshad. In this case, most castes resembled Europeans more closely than Asians. "The upper castes were more similar to Europeans, the middle castes were genetically equidistant from Europeans and Asians, and the lower castes were more similar to Asians," he says.

 

The researchers got similar results when they examined 40 sets of genes on other chromosomes. The findings support the theory that the Indo-European immigrants appointed themselves to the higher castes, Bamshad says. The Y chromosome evidence also supports the idea that the original immigrants were mostly male.

 

The caste system was based on occupation and socioeconomic status. The upper castes were the Brahmans (priests), the Kshatriyas (warriors) and the Vaisyas (traders). The Sudras, who were the farmers and artisans, comprised the lower caste. Later, a fifth caste—"the untouchables"—was established for those who did menial tasks.

 

In modern India, the caste system is breaking down in some parts of society but still going strong in others, as a look at matrimonial ads in Indian newspapers reveals. While some expressly say that "caste is no bar", others ask for brides or bridegrooms not just of the same caste, but of the precise sub-caste.

 

 

Anil Ananthaswamy

 

[maadhav]

<< in short, can someone sum up the basis of the aryan invasion theory and why so many peoplethink its not true....>>

 

do a google search for it or Vamadeva shastri or David Frawley. he has written a booklet on AIT scientifically refuting it.

 

as i have said many times, aryan is not a race.

any one who accepts the authority of hte vedas and lives by it is an aryan or a hindu.

 

sure many have invaded or come into india from outside,

but the cast system is not based on blood per gita.

 

aryan live by the vedas. they live per vedic culture.

this culture has never come from outside into india.

in contrast, india is the cradle of the vedic culture, and some 2-5 thousand years ago, it was spread almost all over the world.

 

we shoud give up reading books written about hindus and hinduism or india's history and vedic culture by non hindus who actually hate hinduism and are up to kill it if they can.

 

<< i get confused thinking about it sometimes. im not exactly sure what people think of it. >>

 

dont care about people. care about what the scriputres say, and our gurus say, and live by it.

 

[Guest guest]

that can put forth valid arguments to refute it. I don't believe in the Aryan Invasion, I don't believe it was an invasion. But there is no denying many Indians are of mixed heritage.

 

Genetics doesn't confirm any Aryan invasion theory, and anyone who says it does is a fool, IMHO. Everything else is conjecture. What it does confirm is that we are not "pure" blood. That's essentially it.

[Guest guest]

Now genes come into play,isnt it?

 

There are only 4 races in world.Caucasian,mongoloid,negroid and australiod.Australian aboriginees are australiod.All chinese and east asians are mongoloids including northeast indians.All africans are negroids and all indians,arabs,iranians,europeans,russians,central asians all are caucasians.There dies the gene theory.

[maadhav]

<< I don't believe it was an invasion. But there is no denying many Indians are of mixed heritage. >>

 

islam/arabas have invaded india and raped hindus in millions. even when pakis invaded kashmir in 1947, the army raped thousands of kashmiri women for a few days. (that is what islam army has done all the times of their invasions.)

 

so, other raced do have come in india by force of by accepted by good will, like parsis, and jews, etc.

 

but sanatand dharma (hinduism) or the vedic culture has grown in idnia only, and then it was spread almost all over the world. it was so even some 5000 years ago.

 

all who came in india eventually accepted the vedic culture

or chose to live in harmoney with it, except islam.

 

just by the study of koran, hadith and gita, any one can understand that islam and hinduism are not compatible, and they cannot co-exist. still gandhians tried foolishly to accept/assimilate islam on the vedic land. after some 55 hears it is clear the experiment has failed utterly. it will never succeed, and therefore, islam needs to go out of bharat. sorry i went to a side point.

 

aryan has nothing to do with blood relation.

HK's are aryan too.

and KKK's or gernams are not.