Guest guest Posted June 12, 2004 Report Share Posted June 12, 2004 My spiritual master , Srila Prabhupada, said that if there is a World War III, it will begin between Pakistan and India, however, he stated that the way to avoid the war, is to spread the purifying Sankirtana Mission of Peace, to all peoples.This means three things: prasadam distribution, street processions of chanting Hare Krsna, and distribution of Bhagavad gita, Srimad Bhagavatam, and other Vaisnava literature. The formula is very simple, but we dont take it , because we are very complicated. When the devotees go out into the streets to chant the Hare Krsna mantra, this pleases the Lord and the devatas very much to give the rains for the grains. Everything becomes all auspicious by this glorification, yet very few do this. Those that do, maybe do it in the comfort of their homes, but do not understand the necessity to bring the chanting of the Lords Holy Names into the streets of every city. Secondly, there should be massive prasadam distribution for all people. The devotees at Hare krsna temples already do this, but they need your help to expand the distribution of prasadam. When people consume prasadam, their lust and anger becomes more controlled, and their minds become purified. We require donations of tons of bhoga , in the form of rice and dhal, vegetables and spices , so that we can go on increasing prasadam distribution in a big way. Sirla Prabhupada also suggested that to expand Harinama and prasadam distribution, is a big part of the solution of crime, the problem is, the politicians themselves are usually criminals, and do not understand the value of this purifying program for peace. Thridly, we can extend this kindness, especially the prasadam distirbution to the Muslim peoples, and win their firendship. SHow them that they are also Krishna's (Allah's) family, and that we honor them and respect them. Invite them to the temple functions. Those who are more philosophical can also learn how to explain the parallels existing between the Qu'uran and the Bhagavad gita. We are all Abdullah, we are all servants of Krsna. I preach to them like that, and they like it. I say Salam alekem to them, Allah akbar, and their face lights up with a smile. We have to learn to realte to them on their level, and show that we accept them, ( although of course we don't accept that they kill cows, etc....) We hate the sin and not the sinner. Better to focus on the commanalities. Prabhupada explained that millions of Muslims used to be devotees of Lord Krsna, although they may have been from the sudra varna, but because of the caste brahmans treating them cruelly, and the British imposing taxes on them, they thought it better to become Muslim. So those who are brahmans in name only , because of being born in that family, but who lack the qualifications, they helped to create Islamic Terrorism. Our own people helped to create it because of their arrogance. SO let us become humble devotees of the Lord, and learn to see all beings as part of the Lord. Even up to 50 years ago muslims would come to the temple for Janmastami, and Hinduis would come to the mosque for Ramadan, and people respected each other more. It is only the politicians that get the people stirred up and create unrest. Let us preach for unity by these peaceful methods. At the same time, some ksatriyas must be there, for those who are too hateful to respond to love. Lord Krsna gives the peace formula in the Gita in Chapter 5 verse 29. Those who acknowledge Him asthe SUpre Enjoyer, the Supreme COntoller of all planets and devas, and the best friend of all living entities, attain peace from the pangs of material nature.If some Muslims cannot hear that Krsna is Allah, and just think he is an ordinary man, then just talk about Krsna with the name of Allah instead, and keep showing love and kindness to them. Most of all, we have to learn to love oursleves first, by daily chanting the Hare Krsna mantra, avoiding tamsic foods by eating only Krsna prasadam, and taking shelter of the sadhu sanga of pure Vaisnava devotees. We can't help others if we remain in a diseased state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maadhav Posted June 12, 2004 Report Share Posted June 12, 2004 << My spiritual master , Srila Prabhupada, said that if there is a World War III, it will begin between Pakistan and India, however, he stated that the way to avoid the war, is to spread the purifying Sankirtana Mission of Peace, to all peoples. >> There were brute muslims in the time of chaitnya, and they remained brute and hindu killers. Sure, a couple of muslims became followers of chaitanya, but not all. so i see no hope for success in this solution. if chaitanya could not kick out islam from the vedic land, then how could HKs could? << This means three things: prasadam distribution, street processions of chanting Hare Krsna, and distribution of Bhagavad gita, Srimad Bhagavatam, and other Vaisnava literature. >> this formula is good for uniting the hindus. but the muslims follow koran and their mullas, not anything or any one else. << Secondly, there should be massive prasadam distribution for all people. >> Again, it is very good way for uniting the hindus. << When people consume prasadam, their lust and anger becomes more controlled, and their minds become purified. >> sure, but the muslims will remain cow and meat eaters. << Thridly, we can extend this kindness, especially the prasadam distirbution to the Muslim peoples, and win their firendship. >> we the hindus tried everything, even gave a large piece of land for them, and nothing has worked. when we go to seek their friendship, they see it as proof of their might and our cowardice. << SHow them that they are also Krishna's (Allah's) family, >> they never have and will acept krishna as god. when you say them that krishna and allah are same, then they will say, so now you become a muslims and give up krishna. << and that we honor them and respect them. >> respect those who follow the asuric ideology of koran? respect hiranyakashipus and kamsas? respect those who did hindu genocide for 1000 years? respect those who destroyed bamian buddha statue? are you out of your mind? << Invite them to the temple functions. >> why, when they hate moorti pooja? besides, they come there any way to spy on us in the guise of friends or hindus. koran or hadith directs them to spy on the non muslims. << Those who are more philosophical can also learn how to explain the parallels existing between the Qu'uran and the Bhagavad gita. We are all Abdullah, we are all servants of Krsna. >> and they will tell you to become a muslims and give up KC. << I preach to them like that, and they like it. I say Salam alekem to them, Allah akbar, and their face lights up with a smile. >> it is because they think you are a muslim or accept muslims' (islam's) authority and fear them. << We have to learn to realte to them on their level, >> the only thing they respect is force, brute force. << and show that we accept them, ( although of course we don't accept that they kill cows, etc....) We hate the sin and not the sinner. Better to focus on the commanalities. >> and pull the painful differences under the rug? why? the right way is to expose the differences and tell the world how barbaric islam is, so that no sane person would think of becoming a muslim. because only islam is legal in most muslim countries, make only islam illegal in the mon muslim countries. that is the way. << Prabhupada explained that millions of Muslims used to be devotees of Lord Krsna, >> no. their ancestors were krishna devotees who were forcibly converted. << although they may have been from the sudra varna, but because of the caste brahmans treating them cruelly, >> shudras are easy target for conversion by muslims and xians. but such converts are not very many. in 1947 when pakistan was made, the suhdras (bhangis who are janotors) all decided to migrate from pakistan to india. this shows these shudras like hinduism and hindus. pakistan did not allow them to migrate to india because they wanted to show that hindus are their janotors. they call all the hindus of the world bhangis. bhangis in paksitan are discriminated from jobs, politics, etc. and are kept bhangis for ever. in contrast, india has prodced many suhdra saints whom all hindus respect. << and the British imposing taxes on them (shudras), they thought it better to become Muslim. >> this is a lie, and prabhupada has not said it to my knowledge. it seems you are a muslim lover and hindu hater. << So those who are brahmans in name only , because of being born in that family, but who lack the qualifications, they helped to create Islamic Terrorism. >> why the brahmins would do it when the brahmins were the first ones to be slaughtered when the muslims invaded in india each time? man, you have grand skills in distorting facts. i agree that hindus did malpractice hinduism for a long time, but it is the past now. things are changing, and will change. however this malpractice was an internal affair. islam has invaded india, and has no right to expect any respect in india. islam needs to get out of the vedic land. << Even up to 50 years ago muslims would come to the temple for Janmastami, >> i do not think so. i have not seen it. muslim musical instrument players some times are invited to play, and they would come. << and Hinduis would come to the mosque for Ramadan, >> this is grand lie. << and people respected each other more. >> sure the hindus respect some peaceful muslims. but islam has not changed, and is anti hindu and hindu killer. << It is only the politicians that get the people stirred up and create unrest. >> there are serious issues in relation to islam invasion and hindu genocide by islam. these issues need to be respovled. the attitude: "invaders, you are welcome here and can kill us hindus" is not right, but is totally foolish. and you a non hindu telling the hindus to hold this coward's attitude is also not right. << Let us preach for unity by these peaceful methods. >> you HK have difficulty uniting with the hindus who gave you KC, and you are talking uniting with the muslims? << At the same time, some ksatriyas must be there, for those who are too hateful to respond to love. >> yes, you know some truth. factually all the hindus in india need to invoke kshatriya spirit to get islam out from there. << Lord Krsna gives the peace formula in the Gita in Chapter 5 verse 29. Those who acknowledge Him asthe SUpre Enjoyer, the Supreme COntoller of all planets and devas, and the best friend of all living entities, attain peace from the pangs of material nature.If some Muslims cannot hear that Krsna is Allah, and just think he is an ordinary man, then just talk about Krsna with the name of Allah instead, and keep showing love and kindness to them. >> this they will not like. you are not a mulla, their islam authority. please do not talk of showing kindness to killers invaders and looters rapers. islam's sword has not come to your neck yet. (or has it already come, and so you are talking in favor of them?) << Most of all, we have to learn to love oursleves first, >> yes, love dharma and rashtra, and follow dharma as is given in gita. learn to love and understand the hindus who gave you KC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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