sefroth77 Posted May 31, 2004 Report Share Posted May 31, 2004 i was just wondering if Hollywood can make a movie about the Mahabratha Epic and the Supreme Life of Lord Krishna base on The Gita and the Epic. With Hollywood's Money power and great Special Effects everyone will wonder if Such a Great Man lived on this earth? Just imagine when Arjuna asked Krishna to show his universal form, The Special Effects will be Brillant. The Movie Should be acted by both Indian and Hollywood stars, the hollywood stars should have indian kind of looks with a bit of make-up. The Movie should be English-Speaking and the Actor in Krishna's role must be Handsome enough to gurantee that role. Sky-Blue the colour. I bet this movie will take Hollywood by storm and Oscars will be smashed. More like Ben-hur This is the only great way to spread Krishna's message. I hope this movie if ever made will come in my life-time. I pray to Lord Krishna for this to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kandukondein Posted May 31, 2004 Report Share Posted May 31, 2004 Well i do think that wud smash all oscars. After all Lord of the Rings made a huge success. But i do think Bollywood can make that film. We do have credibility in directors and actors. Just like Ramanand Sagars Ramayan or BR chopras mahabaratha was a huge success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2004 Report Share Posted May 31, 2004 At first it sounds like a good idea, but I think Hollywood would make a mess of it! They'd probably make it anti-hindu and bring in all sorts of western misinterpretations, etc. They like to look down on other non-abrahamic religions, especially Hinduism - remember the Temple of Doom? However Hollywood was 'inspired' by the Gita in "The Legend of Bagger Vance". And through the Star Wars films, you can see the Vedanta influence, with concept of 'the force'. I think if you get the right Indian director it could be done right if made by Indian film industry - though there should be no songs and dances (it should not be a bollywood film). Special effects of some modern Indian films with a 'Hindu' influence are not all that bad, they're actually quite good. For those interested check out Ammorou and Agni Varsha (based on a part of the Mahabharata). In Agni Varsha, there is a scene at the end where the god 'Indra' appears and the background became transparent and lights up. This looked quite impressive considering the mediocre special effects that was used for TV serials and low-budget films of Mahabharata - Indian films had improved alot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pankaja_Dasa Posted May 31, 2004 Report Share Posted May 31, 2004 Score rules, till this days I think its unbeaten. Why not just dub the Mahabharata, that would work, its the story that counts, special effects later. I love the scene when Arjuna thinks he will have to enter the fire, and Krsna with slight hand movement covers the sun with a cloud, beat that for special effect!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2004 Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 the mahabharata by peter brook was quite good and it had world wide success . an great idea to introduce krsna consciousness could be to have a story similar to the film about buddha of bertolucci connectimg the buddha's byography and some sparks on buddhist philosophy with the story of a simple american child, bertolucci made a great mix, with no semplification or concoctions on the doctrine, but very nice, not so strange for westerners and surely full of spiritual values let us make krsna more famous preaching krsna consciousness all over the world, then, one day, some director enlightned by krsna will want to render service Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2004 Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 was inspired by Vedanta. While most choose to look at it through the Christian allegory, they completely ignore the roots of the trilogy which are definitely Hindu. The Wachowski Bros themselves are admirers of the Bhagavad-Gita, and have said that it played a huge influence in the trilogy as well as the Ramayana. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2004 Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 Hollywood wasn't "inspired" by the Gita. Legend of Bagger Vance was based on the book itself, which Hollywood was inspired by. In any case, I don't think the traditional approach to telling Krishna's story would go over well in the United States. It's too fantastic to be considered true, especially with most Americans thinking that only Christ was able to do this kind of stuff, and nobody else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2004 Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 what were the allegories of the matrix? christian or hindu? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2004 Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 references to represent Hindu beliefs. There's a LOT in the Matrix trilogy that is Hindu/Buddhist, and while people maintain that Neo is Christ, the truth is, he isn't. Not necessarily. Mythologically, he follows Christ's footsteps in the last movie, Revolutions, but he also follows the footsteps of Rama and Parashurama. In fact, Neo is implied to be an incarnation of VISHNU himself. Smith is implied to be Shiva, and the Architect is implied to be Brahma. The Oracle is implied to be Kali. In Revolutions, Rama Kandra (or Ramchandra) meets Neo in limbo, which is the space between the Matrix and the real world. If you think of the Matrix as heaven (which it's supposed to be) then you should understand this parallels Tulsi's Ramayana, where Parashurama meets Rama and Parashurama gives Rama his potency realizing his purpose as an incarnation of Vishnu has come to an end and he goes to the mountains which are between earth and heaven to meditate to the end of his life. In the same way, in Limbo or Mobil avenue, Neo's SIXTH incarnation which is Parashurama really, comes to an end, and Sati, the child of Rama Kandra and Kamala, bids him "Good morning" in other words saying today is a new incarnation. He's entered the 7th incarnation, which is divinity itself. He becomes divine by understanding what Rama has to tell him. Also, Neo tells Rama that he "knows" him. Not just literally but metaphysically as they are the same "soul" like Parashurama and Rama both come from Vishnu. Throughout the trilogy, Neo acts just like a yogi. In Gnostic Christianity, it is believed Christ was indeed a teacher of Indian metaphysics, and may have studied in India. He tought such things as karma and reincarnation. Christ was regarded as the son of God, which yogis are considered themselves to be. Neo displays various siddhis in Reloaded and Revolutions as well. The path of Neo begins as thus: in the original, he is merely a man in the Matrix, but ends with him becoming a god in the Matrix. Reloaded shows him as a god in the Matrix but an ordinary man in the real world. In Revolutions is where he truly transcends this and becomes divine in both real world and Matrix. However, just like it is said that siddhis can sidetrack a yogi from spiritual enlightenment, the same thing happens with Neo in Reloaded. Remember, he thinks he's all powerful now because of his siddhis, and he falls into maya once again, just a different kind though. This time, he fails to realize the REAL world is also maya, and that the machines' influence lies there too. He was sidetracked by his siddhis and became arrogant until finally he falls into a coma and is enlightened once again. Then he transcends the real world and can stop sentinels there too. In each movie, he takes steps to transcend maya and ultimately attain moksha where he reunites with Brahman (not explicitly but it is implicit in the trilogy). Also, while Neo forms a cross at the end of the trilogy he ALSO forms a Lotus which is the flower of Vishnu representing the return of truth (satya) and eternal life or something like that. It's no coincidence that as Neo and Smith merge and "cancel" each other out, a new age is born, marked with the rising of the sun. It is the Golden Age or in Hindu terms Satya Yuga where man and God walk together. At the end of Reloaded, it shows that the Architect is isolated in a white chamber. He's completely cut off from others, but in the end of the Matrix Revolutions, he's seen walking in the fields of the Matrix. IN reality though, the Matrix trilogy is concerned with the relationship between the Ego and the Self. It is made clear that Smith and Neo are the same. Mythologically this would fit in with Vishnu and Shiva being the same, but also in literal terms, Neo and Smith are part of the same personality, they are just divided. Neo is the Self, and Smith is the Ego, hence the references to the AntiChrist because Ego destroys and infects everyone around him. The Matrix takes place at the near end of Kali Yuga and then ends with the beginning of Satya Yuga. Also when Neo and Smith fight at the end of Revolutions, the Sanskrit chants are heard right out of the upanishads themselves. And there is the song that plays at the end credits of Revolutions as well, called Navras, which is most definitely Hindu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2004 Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 the Upanishads, the Bhagavad-Gita and the Ramayana are the foundations of the Matrix trilogy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subroto Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 First of all...hollywood is not going ot make a movie on krishna...secondly if it does it is going to distort the facts for the sake of entertainment as usual. Hollywood has always shown western culture to be superior than eastern...either directly or in subtle ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2004 Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 Of course they're gonna distort the facts for the sake of entertainment. That's what Hollywood's good for! They may even take out all 'mythological' elements. For example in the latest 'myth to film' adaptation namely Troy, the director made the film without the 'mythology'as he thought it was too unrealistic for a modern audience! He wanted to make it look like just like an historical event so in essence extracted the myth elements and as a result the film as lost the appeal and 'spirit' of the original story. Also one of the main characters is a god who dies by being shot in the heal...but the reason why his heal is the weak spot was not even shown...as the story of him becoming a god is too 'mythological' for a modern audience it was completly left out. How imagine if they were to make Mahabharata and they show Bhishma geting shot by 100 arrows and still living?...to show the reason how he got the boon of choosing his moment to die is too much of a myth to be included in the film. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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