Guest guest Posted April 16, 2004 Report Share Posted April 16, 2004 Christian Pamphlet Irritates South Indian Hindus, Another Targets Kumbha Mela http://www.kentaxrecords.com/iaca/feature_hijack.htm INDIA, April 9, 2004: Recently Christian zealots have begun claiming that various Vedic Sanskrit slogans were in praise of Jesus and not Hindu Gods. Christian propaganda pamphlets and booklets in circulation especially in and around Madurai district in Tamil Nadu also make the suggestion that the revered Swami Vivekananda had asked the people to worship Jesus. The pamphlets, which have been put in circulation by the Madurai-based Infant Jesus Hospital also fraudulently invoke verses from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad Gita, saying that they preach against "idol worship." The highly inflammatory pamphlets, delivered by Christian converts, have been appearing in southern districts of Tamil Nadu in the hopes of misleading a few gullible souls. HPI adds: There's nothing new about the approach, as early Christian missionaries made the same claims. For the upcoming Kumbh Mela, 2004, where an estimated 15-25 million Hindu pilgrims descend on the city of Ujjain in April, a Christian group known as "Gateway" has released a handout to its members instructing them to "mobilize a intercessory team to pray on the venue and during the Mela." The other side gives an elaborate "prayer" calendar with derogatory marks about Hinduism. "Pray for the spiritually blind people that they may see for themselves that Jesus is the Way, the Truth, and the Life," says one of the calendar entries. The pamphlet gives important dates of Religious Bathing with instructions to "Pray with special fervor on these dates" because more pilgrims will be in attendance at the Mela. The group is relying on direct access to the millions of devotees to disrupt the sacred festival with prayers and miracle shows in strategic locations to gain converts, says this article. Other excerpts of daily "prayer" from this pamphlet read: "It is estimated that some 15 million Hindu pilgrims will be attending this mega event. Pray for the power of 'river worship' and its spiritual attraction may be broken." "Pray that the pilgrims may realize the futility of worshipping the dirty and polluted river and stop regarding this river as their 'mother.' " "Pray that the pilgrims may see behind the facade of Hindu hermits and sages and coming to know their hypocrisy may search for the true and living God." "Pray for the veil of the futile idolatry be lifted from before the eyes of the pilgrims." And on a practical note, "Pray that during the Mela, People of God (that is, the Christians themselves) may be united with the bond of single mindedness of mission and that there may be no divisions among them." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranjanbhandari Posted April 16, 2004 Report Share Posted April 16, 2004 If Christians tries to convert hindus to christianity, Then WE WILL TURN EACH AND EVERY CHRISTIAN ON THIS PLANET TO A HINDU. Our Hindutva is the Mother of all Religions, Beware !!,If you try to convert us, we will convert your whole race. We are not weak....Don't dare to touch us ...even in your dreams!! "Even if a book were given by God which contained all the truth about religion, it would not serve the purpose, because nobody could understand the book. Take the Bible, for instance, and all the sects that exist among the Christians. Each one puts its own interpretation upon the same text, and each says that it alone understands that text and all the rest are wrong."-Swami vivekananda Love Ranjan Bhandari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranjanbhandari Posted April 16, 2004 Report Share Posted April 16, 2004 Swami Vivekananda was a True Humanbeing,True Hindu who always protested this kind of nonsense from christian priests. Christian convertors, How you can take this Great souls name in your ugly mouth??.Stop misusing this great persons name. Our religion has more than 5000 year old existence...your religion is just 2000 years old and already vanishing in westren countries. i am not against any religion ,But when it comes about misuse of hindus by christians, i will be the first person to throw you all in the deepest sea from which you will never return. Love Ranjan Bhandari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gokulkr Posted April 16, 2004 Report Share Posted April 16, 2004 I dont know how long "Sri Jagadguru Madhvacharya" will be serving "Sri Badrinarayana" in Badrinath ? I hope for welfare of "Sanatana Dharma" & for its people , he should return & roar against the infidels who try to vaniquish "Sanatana dharma". Only he can do that. Rayaruji u too patiently sitting. Please get up & show your power against these infidels who are trying to vaniquish "Sanatana dharma". /images/graemlins/smile.gif Jai Shri Krishna /images/graemlins/smile.gif Om Shri Duupun theerthaya Namaha /images/graemlins/smile.gif Om Sri Guru Raghavendraya Namaha /images/graemlins/smile.gif Om Namo Venkatesaya Namaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2004 Report Share Posted April 16, 2004 Raghuramji, I dont think they are any different from some members here, who claim Vaishnavism is not hinduism, so on.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2004 Report Share Posted April 16, 2004 why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2004 Report Share Posted April 16, 2004 ISKON Claims they are not Hindus. Vaishnavas Claim they are not hindus. But still they claim that Vedas hail Vishnu and Krishna. Substitue ISKON with Chirstians in the previous passage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2004 Report Share Posted April 16, 2004 1 vedas are not hindu's property 2 separation does not mean hostility Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2004 Report Share Posted April 16, 2004 Sir, do you mean to say Vedas are christian property then? For your infirmation, the cunning christians in tamilnadu call Bible as veda, to pull gullible hindus to their fold. Nowadays they sing Asatoma Satgamaya, Tamsoma Jyothigamaya in the church. I have first hand experience of the cunningness of Christians. They start like this first, and hijack the entire concept. WHo knows they may call Krishna as one of the christian saints and call him Saint Krishna. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2004 Report Share Posted April 16, 2004 if you had problems with christians, why you hate also vaishnavas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2004 Report Share Posted April 16, 2004 I only hate the bunch of them whose attitude is same as the christians described above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maadhav Posted April 17, 2004 Report Share Posted April 17, 2004 dear ranjan bhandari ji, i welcome you here very much. please keep up that kshatriya spirit, and invoke that spirit into other hindus. to frustrate xians converting hindus, we need a copple of hindu preachers or poojaris in each village who would keep the hindu sunited and defiant against xian missionary activities. all the vilage people have to asnwer to the converters is to say, "if yoru poojari or gur tells us to become xian, then we all will become xian. so, go to him/them first." and no poojari or guru will convert to xianity or become a xian. then we need to unite all the hindu gurus of different sects under the banner of sanatana dharma ( hinduism) and speak with one voice agaisnt anti hindus. teh one voice is this: we are hindus, gita is our BOOK, bharat is our land, vedic is our culture, we cannot allow any ideology in india that is anti hindu, we will not tolerate any conversion attempt by any one in india, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranjanbhandari Posted April 17, 2004 Report Share Posted April 17, 2004 I Proud to be an INDIAN and I Proud to be a HINDU. The same applies to all the hindus on this planet. We have a religion "Hindutva",which is the supreme way to realize the GOD.We have such a religion which gives us a infinite power throughout life.We have our holy book "Bhagavadgita" preached by supreme GOD himself.We have the vedas,upanishidas which teahes the word 'abhI' which means "Be Fearless" . This is what our religion is..This is what our religion teaches to us from our childhood.It teaches to be brave...it teaches to be a moral...It teaches the various way to realize the GOD through advaita or dvaita and so many ways..so many varities..still only one strong foundation...That is FAITH ..Faith in our own soul and the Faith in that supreme GOD. We never tries to convert the people from other religion, our religion is the that kind of power it attracts millions people from other religions ...to attain the right path...right way to discover GOD.We never take the advantage of poor and helpless people..Our Religion sees GOD in every humanbeing...We believe in our soul...which is thousandfold stronger than your machinepower.We have a GOD who teaches strength.He is the ocean of power,ocean of knowledge..ocean of mercy to frogive people like you.He is so great!!!!...He assure us to be with us in the diffcult time...we love him..we admire him...We love our religion...it is in our every nerves of the body and in every drop of the blood. If some one tries to do something bad to our country,our religion we will be like thunderbolts and will wipe out everything with our lightining power of our religion! So, Christian converters,Beware....We are like Fire..we gives light and we will burn too...choice is yours ...be a hindu...and take light from this great religion or Burn yourself in your misdeeds. Love Ranjan Bhandari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maadhav Posted April 18, 2004 Report Share Posted April 18, 2004 the anti hindus are united and organized. so, in india, we hindus need to unite and organize to remove these two anti hindu ideologies from india. gurus, sampradayas, politicians, educators, neighborhoods, merchants, etc, need to unite against the enemies. just a link connected with another link makes a strong chain, and a chain connected with another chain makes a strong net, we all the hindus need to unite to serve our interests. i pray for this unity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2004 Report Share Posted April 18, 2004 if one gets converted by other religion, he's not a hindu even if he calls himself with this name conversion is there when the converted had no real religious idea so what's the use to keep it in the number? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maadhav Posted April 19, 2004 Report Share Posted April 19, 2004 << if one gets converted by other religion, he's not a hindu even if he calls himself with this name >> just becaue a child does not like school, it is not right to say, well he was not a good student anyway, so let him quit the school. there are other reasons as well, but i would not go furher. the point to undderstand is that any ideology that says, all others must be converted to theirs, is basically anti-peace and violent. we do not want such anti hindu ideologies to exist in india, just as you do not want a cobra as a resident in your family, or some cancer cells in your body. it is our country - bharat, and it is our decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2004 Report Share Posted April 19, 2004 just becaue a child does not like school, it is not right to say, well he was not a good student anyway, so let him quit the school. ---there's a moment for a student to choose from different kinds of schools, literature, religion, medicine, engineering, music and so on..... and a child is not hindu or christian or vaishnava.. a child is a child, when he grows adult he really chooses what to follow the point to undderstand is that any ideology that says, all others must be converted to theirs, is basically anti-peace and violent. --everyone has preferences... if me and you say something on spirituality and someone, hearing us, changes his idea and starts to follow the path that me and you are following are we violent and not peaceful? we do not want such anti hindu ideologies to exist in india, just as you do not want a cobra as a resident in your family, or some cancer cells in your body. --ignorance is the real cobra and cancer and the procedure to ruine religion for some political purpose.. exacly the thing that you are doing it is our country - bharat, and it is our decision. --so let's decide individually what we want to follow, not by your imposition..... you are simpli fighting fanaticism with other fanaticism.. your one is not better of the other's one even if you call it hindu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranjanbhandari Posted April 19, 2004 Report Share Posted April 19, 2004 q:"there's a moment for a student to choose from different kinds of schools, literature, religion, medicine, engineering, music and so on..... and a child is not hindu or christian or vaishnava.. a child is a child, when he grows adult he really chooses what to follow". a:True,But Thanks no Thanks for your offer.Hindutva is a religion which is like kohinoor diamond for all other religions.And Genaraly as a child it is very diificult to chose what we have have to follow,we do need some sugestions from our parents who have lot of experience and have seen lot of life.In the same way our religion Hindutva has more than 5000 years old existence with amazing spiritual truths..If a person is Hindu and he realy understand his religion he never get converted by christian priests for the sake of money .You can force a child to pursue a child to take some career,but he will not excell in that just because he is not intrested and he just forced in to that field,same hold true for a religious person , you can convert a hindu who is poor to christianity by showing money, but the inner truth is that he will never like forced religion christianity. Q:everyone has preferences... if me and you say something on spirituality and someone, hearing us, changes his idea and starts to follow the path that me and you are following are we violent and not peaceful A:No problem,let him take what he likes..but i never teach any thing bad about other religion as christians do.I know i cann't purchase a persons spiritual beliefs or religion just by MONEY As christians are doing, A true hindu never thinks of changing his religion NO not even in his dreams!! Q:ignorance is the real cobra and cancer and the procedure to ruine religion for some political purpose.. exacly the thing that you are doing A:Well you all christans are ignorant about Hindus true power,We have Thousandfold better religion than christians.Sorry we dont need you. Q:so let's decide individually what we want to follow, not by your imposition..... you are simpli fighting fanaticism with other fanaticism.. your one is not better of the other's one even if you call it hindu A:God is one...true, But if we have such a greatest way to reach GOD, Hindutva...why do you need others??.Enough is enough, History is evidence is that others religions tried to rule us but never get success in last 5000 years.Our religion is blessed by god himself. If again same attempt will be made by anyother people we will teach that kind of lesson , they will remember it for next 1000 years!! Zip Zap Zop !!! Love Ranjan Bhandari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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