The siddhanta of the acarya of suddhadvaita-vada

gokulkr · March 23, 2004

(Visnuswami, represented by Sridhara Swami)

10. 36

hladinya samvidaslistham sac-cidnananda isvaram

sva-vidya-samvrto jivam samklesani-karakam

The nature of the Supreme Lord is sat-citnananda: He is the ultimate embodiment of eternity, knowledge and bliss, and is richly endowed with the hladini and samvit saktis. But the jivas, the souls of this world are covered by ignorance, which is the cause of their suffering the threefold miseries. (Bhagavat-Sandarbha, Sarvajna-sukta-vakya commentary of Sridhara Swami on Srimad-Bhagavatam 1.7.5-6)

10. 37

vastuno'mso jivam vastunam saktirmaya ca vastunam karyam jagac-ca tat sarvam vastveva

The Supreme Lord alone is the Substance of all reality; a particle of his substance is the jiva; the energy of that substance is maya and the effect of that substance is this material world. Therefore everything having emanated from that supreme substance, all things may be said to be "nondifferent" from it. In this way the conclusion of nonduality may be applied to the Absolute Substance. (Bhavartha-dipika 1.1.1)

A liberated soul attains a spiritually perfect body in the service of Krsna

10. 38

mukta api lilaya vigraham krtva bhagavantam bhajante

The liberated souls have divine forms with which they worship the Supreme Lord by taking part in his transcendental pastimes. (Sridhara Swami's sarvajna-bhasya commentary on Srimad-Bhagavatam 10.87.21)

The opinion of suddhadvaita-vada on the distinct position

of the eternally liberated souls.

10. 39

parsada-tanu-nama-karmarabdam nityatvam suddhatvams ca

The eternal associates of the Lord are free from the cycle of karma. They are eternally pure, transcendental, and free from all material qualities. They never suffer birth and death within this material world. (Bhavartha-Dipika 1.6.21)

One who equates the individual soul with the Supreme Lord is an infidel, an atheist.

10. 40

aparimita dhruvas-tanu-bhrto yadi sarvagata-

starhina sasyateti niyamo dhruva netaratha

ajani ca yan mayam tada vimucya niyastr-bhavet

sama-manujanatam yadamatam mata-dusthataya

O Lord, although the living entities who have accepted material bodies are spiritual and unlimited in number, if they were all-pervading there would be no question of their being under your control. If they are accepted, however, as particles of the eternally existing spiritual entity - as part of You, who are the Supreme Spirit Whole - we must conclude that they are always under Your control. If the living entities are simply satisfied with being identified with You as spiritual particles, then they will be happy being controllers of so many things. The conclusion that the living entities and the Supreme Personality of Godhead are one and the same is a faulty conclusion. It is not a fact.(Srimad-Bhagavatam 10.87.30)

10. 41

yei mudha kahe - "jivaisvara" haya sama

sei ta' "pasandi" haya, dande tare yama

A foolish person who says that the Supreme Lord and the individual soul or jiva are the same is an infidel, an offender, and an atheist; after death he is punished by the Lord of death, Yamaraja. (Caitanya-Caritamrta Madhya 18.115)

This post is submitted with thanks from "Dhaa ji".

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barney · March 23, 2004

I have been bombarded by some of you but that does not deter me from throwing light on this issue of “we are Gods”.

Have any of you heard of Astral Projection? A condition in which there is separation between the physical and enteric body. Astral projection often occurs during sleep. Some have learned to consciously do astral projection and there are instances where information has been brought back and then verified. A cord connects the physical body to the enteric or astral body. This cord is often referred to as the “Silver Cord.”

In Mahabarath Arjuna requested the help of his istadeva who is Krisha and his desire transformed into astral projection of his athman into Krishna whom he believed in as his istadeva. But to explain such to ordinary human being would not be an easy task and so he related the whole eposide as in Mahabaratha. It may sound strange but that is how I see it. We do not have any historical facts to back up the Mahabarata and so it is stamped as mythological story. A hindu way of life is riddled with mysteries such as rituals of consecrations and other duties in order to appease the Creator. But all these are not done out of ignorance but according to sastras. What the priest or gurukal fail to do is explain the purpose of such rituals. The secret of this act is to appease our selves so that our atman or the dweller would be pleased and physiologically that would generate positive energy to give positive result. Now this is what we call occult science on positive thinking. It is all there in our scriptures but for reasons only known to the guardians of the Vedas it was kept as secret documents. May be they felt they are the intelligent people well versed in Sanskrit and that translating such documents would result in lost of their livelihood.

We possess the Chakras also known as energy centers or spiritual centers. According to Hindu and occult concepts these are centers of psychic power situated in the subtle body that penetrates the physical body. There are said to be six main chakras that ascend from the base of the spine. Various authorities actually differ on the number of chakras, some citing seven. Much like the aura, some psychics and mediums say that they can see these centers, which are a mixture of color of varying brightness. The various centers usually are described red at the base; orange at the spleen; yellow at the solar plexus; green at the heart; blue at the throat; Indigo at the brow; and violet at the crown chakra. Some authorities differ on these colors. Certain spiritual healers say that they work on the chakras to stimulate a healing of the physical body. When this chakra is energized one can do wonders. Does any one know why only man has such qualities and not any other species in the planet? That is because man is God the creator we all are searching for, but he had not discovered the real self and so he indulges in petty things in life. In Spiritualism, the Prime Creator, First Cause, God, whatever you think of when you think of the force that started reality in the first place, is known as Infinite Intelligence. Yes, it is correct to say that Infinite Intelligence is God. Spiritualists do believe in God. But there are a few important differences in the way Spiritualists understand God. Infinite Intelligence is not a father figure that offers rewards and punishment to his children.

Infinite Intelligence influences our world and our lives through the Principles of Natural Law. Natural Law, spiritual energy and purpose are thought to emanate from Infinite Intelligence. The more a person can learn to live in accordance with Natural Law the more that person will find life to be agreeable--or at least understandable. Put another way, living in a way that violates Natural Law is certain to create difficulties in a person's life.

Living in accordance with Natural Law is not a matter of doing "good" or "bad." Yes, living in a way that is consistent with Natural Law would seem to have good results for a person, but this goodness would be in the same context as the goodness one derives from not violating a traffic law, and thereby, not being given a traffic ticket.

Spiritualists seek to understand Natural Law as a way of life. Spiritual Maturity can be defined as the understanding of Natural Law and living in accordance with those Principles. A spiritually mature person can be defined as a person who has learned to live in accordance with Natural Law, rather than in conflict with it.

Spiritualist will say that understanding and living in accordance with Natural Law is an equivalent with the idea of "obeying the will of God." May be it would be difficult for some of you to swallow the real truth but as I have said earlier do not look for God elsewhere, coz he is in you and in me but due to our ignorance and misguided teachings we have been take for a tour. Yes, it is knowledgeable to learn from all angles and understand its concept but eventually if you are gifted you will realize the real truth behind all this phenomena. I know it would be difficult for most of us to practice or bring out the energy of Infinite Intelligence in us as this would take many years of vigorous exercises and meditation but ultimately we would arrive there after numerous re-birth because that is the karma of our action.

Please do not take me wrong by thinking that I am here to introduce a new religion. It is nothing new as it has been there for thousand of years. Our elders had introduced it in a different format that is all. No one is stopping you from praying to Krishna, Vishnu, Rama, Shiva, Sakthi, Ganesha or Murugan. They are all in one deep inside you and you can bring any of them out when you have achieved the level of controlling the five senses and energized the chakra.

Barney.

March 23, 2004

I have been bombarded by some of you but that does not deter me from throwing light on this issue of “we are Gods”.

--throwing light means to give logical demonstrations

In Mahabarath Arjuna requested the help of his istadeva who is Krisha and his desire transformed into astral projection of his athman into Krishna whom he believed in as his istadeva.

--where's written?

It may sound strange but that is how I see it.

--very honest... you see it

It is all there in our scriptures but for reasons only known to the guardians of the Vedas it was kept as secret documents.

--not true, your theory is well known from centuries... and now it is maybe the prevalent in india and translated in the "new age" phenomenon all over the world... but it is a faith phenomenon, not a spiritual science phenomenon

Spiritualist will say that understanding and living in accordance with Natural Law is an equivalent with the idea of "obeying the will of God."

--and it is right

May be it would be difficult for some of you to swallow the real truth

--give some explanations, othewise how can you pretend that people will follow blindly? you are surely taking it as sarcasm, but it is not true... explain, demonstrate.. the advaita way is traditionally full of skilled retoricians and philosophers. proposing everything as a blind faith ("believe me!!") yu are not doing a great service to your path

I know it would be difficult for most of us to practice or bring out the energy of Infinite Intelligence in us as this would take many years of vigorous exercises and meditation

--and first of all a logical legitimation to practice it with full consciousness and enthusiasm... so please explain

No one is stopping you from praying to Krishna, Vishnu, Rama, Shiva, Sakthi, Ganesha or Murugan.

--if you say that they are illusory projections of our superego you are actually stopping people to praying them and blaspheming them saying that they are fantasies that one will forget when he will be advanced... it is your freedom, but be conscious and honest

They are all in one deep inside you and you can bring any of them out

--other example

you can bring any of them out when you have achieved the level of controlling the five senses and energized the chakra.

--so they are dependent to some phisical/mental abilities, not god or devatas.... you have to explain it, what you are saying is not a little detail