Lord Ram and dalits-murder of sambuk

[Guest guest]

How do you people justify Lord Ram killing sambuk, a dalit who did no sin, but except to sit in a forest and chant vedas?

 

Ramayan says that a bhramin's son died in a young age.That bhramin went and complained to ram.Ram thought that in a vedic ruled country every body has 100 year life. So some unvedic thing has happened.And he found out that sambuk, a dalit was chanting vedas. So he killed sambuk and the bhramin kid came alive.

 

Isnt this bhramin dominance?Is this story real?

 

Also how do you justify Lord Ram asking sitha to jump into fire and purify herself?

[gokulkr]

In Valmiki Ramayana, it is clearly mentioned :

 

Ramayan says that a bhramin's son died in a young age.That bhramin went and complained to ram.Ram thought that in a vedic ruled country every body has 100 year life. So some unvedic thing has happened.And he found out that sambuk doing some penance.

 

Lord Rama approached him and asked why are u doing penance ? He replied that he had commiteed the great "seven" sins (such as murder, robbery, raping ...) and he didnt want to be punsished by God for the sins he comitted. so in order to escape the punishment, hes doing penance to purify his sons.

 

According to vedic dharma, if a person committes "grave" sins, then he should either repent for it by pure heart before God or he should approach a guru for advise. Hes not permitted to do penance to purify the sins. this rule applies to all varnas.

 

So since as a God & a king, its duty of Lord Rama to punish him acoordingly. His appropriate punishment is death. So Rama killed him. (NOTE : the sambhu was given moksha just because he died in hands of God. isnt it merciful. suppose ih he wasnt killed by Rama, then he would have born again & lead a drastic life due to his karma. So Actually Rama saved him from that. I WISH THAT I WERE A SAMBHU AT THAT TIME, SO THAT I WOULD HAVE GOT MOKSHA THRU RAMA. )

 

Moreover, both Ram & Krsna lilas are complex to understand. if we cant we should approach a guru for explanation. but most people dont do that & they cook their own views committing blasphemy against God.

 

<-- Also how do you justify Lord Ram asking sitha to jump into fire and purify herself? -->

 

Lord Rama wanted to show greatness of Goddess Sita to all three worlds. Only Goddess Sita have calibre to merge & emerge from Panch buthas since Goddess Sita is Creative Energy of Lord Rama.

 

Lord Narayana always wanted his devotees to be praised & respected much rather than him. So he always commits many lilas making his devotees to be praised & respected than him. How Merciful Lord Narayana is.

 

By comitting above two lilas, Lord Rama had made Sita devi & Sambhuk to be praised/respected & allowing (ignorant)people even to make negative comments on him. Lord Rama is Nirguna & rama doesnt like meaningless respect/fame. Rama just needed his devotees to respected more than him. No other God do like this. I Salute the MERCY OF NARAYANA.

 

NOTE : lord rama also wanted hanuman to be loved/respected more than him. so lord rama allowed hanuman to perform more heroic feats rather than himself. So We salute Greatness & Mercy of Lord Rama.

 

JAI SHRI RAM

 

 

[maadhav]

you have no interest to become a hindu.

so why worry about hindu things?

no hindu is after you to convert.

 

 

[Gandhi Pragash]

one thing.. maadhav... hinduism is not a religion. its an advice, feel the word by human (karma will follow you, hind means dharma.. meaning of hindu = do help others you will agained(also said by jesus), its not changing the religion or convertion... its all understanding and respecting .. ).. every holy scripts are given to human that how he has to live ... ans: for ram and shambuk question, for every punishment, sin was there, every punishment without sin, is a biggest sin, search about varnas and jaathi....then you will understand about all