Glory of Veda Vyasa

[gokulkr]

Tomorrow is 19-2-2004 is vyasa jayanthi.

 

so lets talk about glory of Lord Veda Vyasa.

 

Veda Vyasa is incarnation of Lord Vishnu.

 

Veday Vyasa compiled all the puranas and quoted it as :

 

Vaishnavam Naaradeeyam Cha thatha Bhagavatham Shubham Garudam Cha thatha Paadmam Varaaham Shubha Darshane ShaDeThani Puranaani Saathvikaani Mathaani why Bramhaandam BrahmaVaivartham Maarkaandaiyam thathaiva cha BhavidhshyadhVaamanam Braamham Raajasaani Nibhodhamae Maathsyam Kourmam thatha Laingam Shaivam Skaandam Thathaiva cha AagnaeYam cha ShaDethani Thaamasa NirayaPradaha

 

which means that there are six puranas that are Saathvik. These puranas are Vishnu, Naarada, Bhaagavatha, Garuda, Padma and Varaaha. The Raajasik puranas are Bramhaanda, BramhaVaivartha, Maarkaandaeya, Bhavishyothara, Vaamana and Bramha. The six thamasik puranas are Maathsya, Kourma, Lainga, Skaanda, Shaiva and Aagnaeya.

 

Lord Veda Vyasa also mentioned that the Smruthi Shaastras are of three kinds Saathvika, Raajasa and Thamasa

 

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[Guest guest]

is this true of tommorow? i hadnt heard it anywhere. Anyone else have confirmation?

[Guest guest]

I see you still have your superiority complex over Shivites, by calling their scriptures tamasic. That's typical from a sectarian source!

 

Sage Vyasa started the school of Vedanta. I seriously doubt he was the incarnation of Visnu, when Krishna was. Sage Vyasa was not just a great sage of history, but possibly the greatest ever!

[Guest guest]

You just read the sathvic puranas & try to follow it. You will see good qualities growing in ur mind. you will respect all Gods.

 

You just read tamasic puranas & try to follow it. You will see tamasic qualities & will not respect any other god except Shiva.

 

Rather than doubting Veda Vyasa you try the above. Who knows you people will one day tell even Lord krishna is not incarnation. You people only believe whatever shaivatees say. Whatever we say you take as secretarial or superiority. We are least bothered about your comments.

 

Anyway today is "Vyasa Jayanthi" so dont pollute this thread by posting your comments against Lord Veda Vyasa.

 

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[Guest guest]

Please "non-vaishnavas" dont post your comments on this thread. this thread is started to glorify Lord Veda Vyasa , not to debate.

 

Only Vaishnavas are welcome to post their views in this thread.

 

[Guest guest]

Lord Veda Vyasa is incarnation of Lord Vishnu.

 

Lord Veda Vyasa clearly specified that "Lord Vishnu as Supreme" many times in his works.

 

Lord Veda Vyasa first compiled all the vedas & puranas. But still he didnt had sense of satisfaction & peace of mind.

So Veda Vyasa meditated on God Narayana. Lord Narada realised the state of Lord Veda Vyasa and appeared before him.

 

Lord Narada advised Veda Vyasa to compile the divine leelas performed by the Lord Krishna. Narada also explained the divine leelas perfomed by Lord Krishna to Veda Vyasa. Then Veda Vyasa wrote "Bagavatham" & had peace of mind. Also Lord Veda Vyasa declared that "Srimadh Bagavatham" is the supreme Purana and is equal to the Vedas and added that only by reciting & following "Srimadh Bagavatham" one can attain salvation. Thus we can see the glory of Veda Vyasa by presenting Srimadh Bagavatham to this world & declaring that "Lord Vishnu" is Supreme.

 

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[Guest guest]

http://www.dvaita.org/stotra/template.html#vyasastuti1.gif

 

Heres a wonderful stuti stotra dedicated to Lord Veda Vyasa.

 

Can someone good in sanskrit put it in english (with sanskrit pronounciation) so that those who dunno sanskrit can read it.

 

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[Guest guest]

Jai Ganesh

 

All glories to Veday Vyas

 

 

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(Veday Vyasa compiled all the puranas and quoted it as :

 

Vaishnavam Naaradeeyam Cha thatha Bhagavatham Shubham Garudam Cha thatha Paadmam Varaaham Shubha Darshane ShaDeThani Puranaani Saathvikaani Mathaani why Bramhaandam BrahmaVaivartham Maarkaandaiyam thathaiva cha BhavidhshyadhVaamanam Braamham Raajasaani Nibhodhamae Maathsyam Kourmam thatha Laingam Shaivam Skaandam Thathaiva cha AagnaeYam cha ShaDethani Thaamasa NirayaPradaha

 

which means that there are six puranas that are Saathvik. These puranas are Vishnu, Naarada, Bhaagavatha, Garuda, Padma and Varaaha. The Raajasik puranas are Bramhaanda, BramhaVaivartha, Maarkaandaeya, Bhavishyothara, Vaamana and Bramha. The six thamasik puranas are Maathsya, Kourma, Lainga, Skaanda, Shaiva and Aagnaeya.

Lord Veda Vyasa also mentioned that the Smruthi Shaastras are of three kinds Saathvika, Raajasa and

Thamasa )

 

 

Lord Vishnu, Lord Bramha and Lord Shiva are associated with these three Gunas.

Lord Vyasa has recorded history of these personalities which we know them as puranas.

 

I ask sincerely has he said anywhere that ,we should reject some off them?

 

Jai Shree Krishna

 

[Guest guest]

Sri Sri Vijayîndra Tîrtha has clarified & explained the quote of "Veda Vyasa".

 

For your clarification, hers a description of a debate that occured between Sri Vijayîndra Tîrtha & Lingaraja. it will clarify your doubt.

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The argument between Sri Vijayîndra Tîrtha and Lingaraja.

 

The citizens of Kumbakonam were delighted to learn about the presence of Sri Vijayîndra Tîrtha in Madurai. There were strong reasons to get delighted. For the past fifteen to twenty years, there had lived a Shaiva scholar named Lingaraja in Kumbakonam who not only captured the management of all the temples in the city but also was converting all the Brahmins into Saivites. The Saiva saint was very skilled and was also the possessor of occult powers. The Brahmin pundits were unable to compete with Lingaraja and were extremely dissappointed for not able to stand in front of this Saiva saint. The Bramhin community became extremely happy at the arrival of Sri Vijayîndra Tîrtha to Madurai and they requested Sri Vijayîndra Tîrtha to come to Kumbakonam and establish the Veda-mata-siddhânta in their city. Sri Surendra Tîrtha after hearing the incidents from the citizens of Kumbakonam, gave permission to Sri Vijayîndra Tîrtha to reside in Kumbakonam and stop the disaster of forceful Saiva conversion by Lingaraja. Sri Surendra Tîrtha blessed Sri Vijayîndra Tîrtha with best wishes and said that Sri Moola Raama would be pleased by the establishment of Srimad Acharya's siddanta in Kumbakonam.

Then one day, Sri Vijayîndra Tîrtha was in deep meditation. Suddenly, he saw Lord Vishnu and Srimad Acharya in his heart. At the same time, Sri Vyaasa Tîrtha appeared in front of Sri Vijayîndra Tîrtha and blessed him. Moments later, Sri Vijayîndra Tîrtha saw the divine mother sitting on a lion, having many weapons in her hand and having a pleasing face. It was the divine mother Sri Mangalambike in front of Sri Vijayîndra Tîrtha came to bless him. The divine mother blessed the saint, prophesizing that he would be victorious in the debate with Lingaraja. Sri Vijayîndra Tîrtha came to Kumbakonam and Sri Lingaraja came to know about it. Sri Vijayîndra Tîrtha and Lingaraja agree that the arguement be in the temple of Sri Kumbeswara. It was decided that if Lingaraja is defeated he has to stop forceful conversion of people into saivism and surrender all the property and management of the temples to Sri Vijayîndra Tîrtha. If Sri Vijayîndra Tîrtha is defeated, he would convert into a saivite and become a follower of Lingaraja. Lingaraja started the arguement by stateing that the Vedas have weakness and vedas were human composed . Sri Vijayîndra Tîrtha very easily criticised Lingaraja by giving many proofs which showed that Vedas are true and that vedas are not composed by any one(ApouruSheyaa). Vedas are known by three words namely 'Veda', 'Shruthi' and 'Drushthi'. Sri Vijayîndra Tîrtha explained the meaning of these words as follows: Veda meaning 'Vedyatha ithe vedaha' which means Vedas are the ones that are understood, Shruthi meaning 'Shrooyatha ithe Shruthihi' which means that Vedas are the ones that are being heard and Drushthi meaning 'Drushyatha ithe Drushtihi' which means that vedas are the ones that are seen. So, Vedas are the ones that are understood, heard and seen and it is not composed by any one. This way, Sri Vijayîndra Tîrtha proved his point that Vedas are 'ApouruSheyaa'.

Then came the topic who is supreme. Lingaraja with the help of Kourma, Lainga puranas started to state that Lord Shiva is the supreme and challenged Sri Vijayîndra Tîrtha how he can prove that Sri Naaraayana is supreme. Sri Vijayîndra Tîrtha said although it is mentioned that Lord Shiva is supreme in puranas like Lainga, Kourma etc., this point is against the Shrutis and Saathvika puranas and so it is not true. Also, puranas like Lainga,Shaiva etc., are thamasik. Lingaraja became furious and demanded how Sri Vijayîndra Tîrtha can prove that Lainga, Kourma puranas are Thamasik. Sri Vijayîndra Tîrtha gave proof by stateing that this division (Saathvik, Raajasik and Thaamasik) is done by Sri Veda Vyaasa himself who is the authority said as follows.

 

Vaishnavam Naaradeeyam Cha thatha Bhagavatham Shubham Garudam Cha thatha Paadmam Varaaham Shubha Darshane ShaDeThani Puranaani Saathvikaani Mathaani why Bramhaandam BrahmaVaivartham Maarkaandaiyam thathaiva cha BhavidhshyadhVaamanam Braamham Raajasaani Nibhodhamae Maathsyam Kourmam thatha Laingam Shaivam Skaandam Thathaiva cha AagnaeYam cha ShaDethani Thaamasa NirayaPradaha

 

which means that there are six puranas that are Saathvik. These puranas are Vishnu, Naarada, Bhaagavatha, Garuda, Padma and Varaaha. The Raajasik puranas are Bramhaanda, BramhaVaivartha, Maarkaandaeya, Bhavishyothara, Vaamana and Bramha. The six thamasik puranas are Maathsya, Kourma, Lainga, Skaanda, Shaiva and Aagnaeya.

Sri Vijayîndra Tîrtha also mentioned that the Smruthi Shaastras are of three kinds Saathvika, Raajasa and Thamasa. The judges got convinced about the proof given by Sri Vijayîndra Tîrtha and told Lingaraja that the proof has been given. The judges continued to state that since the debate was based on Shastras and only texts that can be believed are the Saatvika ones, so, as per the Shrutis and Saatvika Puranas, Sri Naaraayana is the Supreme (Sri Hari Sarvothamma) and Sri Vijayîndra Tîrtha is correct in this arguement.

Lingaraja now turned the point towards Lord Narasimha. He started telling that Lord Narasimha was defeated by Sri Veera Bhadra. Sri Vijayîndra Tîrtha criticized this by stateing that the information about Lord Narasimha being defeated by Lord Veera Bhadra is in Skaanda Puraana. Skaanda puraana is Thamasik and hence cannot be taken as a proof. Sri Vijayîndra Tîrtha very cleverly solved this point by quoteing that in Shaiva puraana, it is mentioned that Lord Rudra in the form of Sharabha defeats Lord Narasimha. But, in Skaanda puraana, it is mentioned that Lord Veera Bhadra defeats Lord Narasimha. So, who defeated Lord Narasimha? Is it Lord Rudra or Lord Veera Bhadra? If you say it is Lord Rudra then, it is against Shaiva puraana. If you say it is Lord Rudra then it is against Skaanda Puraana. Lingaraja's argument was based on the Thamasa puranas and Sri Vijayîndra Tîrtha created a suspision in Lingaraja's argument. Lingaraja became so confused and all the people who were watching the argument were amazed at the way Sri Vijayîndra Tiirtha disproved Lingaraja's point by creating this suspision. Sri Vijayîndra Tîrtha continued further and said that the authentic information is only in Saatvika puranas and since Lingaraja's point is based on Thamasik puranaas which is against various Shrutis, Smrutis and Saatvika puranas, it is a bluder to tell that Lord Narasimha was defeated by Lord Rudra or Lord Veera Bhadra. Sri Vijayîndra Tîrtha described Lord Narasimha as 'Narasimhasya KaeValam Jyothireka ManaaDyantam' which means that Lord Narasimha is Infinite and who has no destruction. For the one who is infinite and who is undestructable, how can it have an end? So, as mentioned in the Saatvika puranas, Lord Narasimha destroyed Sharabha. Sri Vijayîndra Tîrtha gave one more proof from a Shruthi as 'Harim Harantha Manuyanthi VishVasyeeShaanam VrushaBham Matheenaam' which means that Lord Rudra who is praised by 'Eeshaana' word was destroyed by Lord Hari(i.e. Lord Narasimha). Also, the Smruthi states that

BramhaanaMindram RudramCha Yamam Varunamaevacha| Nihasya Harathe YasmaaThasMyaaDharereHoochayathe||

Which means that Lord Bramha, Lord Indra, Lord Rudra, Lord Yama, Lord Varuna get destroyed by Lord Hari (i.e. Lord Narasimha) during the Pralaya period. This means that Lord Hari is the supreme(Sarvothamma), Lord Hari is the creator, Protector and destroyer of these worlds, Lord Hari is the ParaBramha as mentioned in the Vedas, Shrutis, Smrutis and Puraanas.

This way the argument went for many days, and everyday, Sri Vijayîndra Tîrtha turned out to be the winner and all the points that Lingaraja upheld were very easily turn down by Sri Vijayîndra Tîrtha. At last, Lingaraja became speechless and accepted the defeat by bowing his head.

Needless to say, the judges concluded that Sri Vijayîndra Tîrtha was won the argument. Sri Vijayîndra Tîrtha praised Lingaraja that he was a great scholar and could not establish the Shaiva matha because all your arguments were based on thamasik puranas which are not correct. Sri Vijayîndra Tîrtha commended Lingaraja that it was a great pleasure to argue with a scholar like him, wished him best wishes and gave lot of gifts to him. Lingaraja then came forward, bowed at Sri Vijayîndra Tîrtha and surrendered the keys of all the temples and the Shaiva mutt. Lingaraja then decided to leave the town of Kumbakonam.

 

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i think Sri Vijayindra Thirtha has clarified your doubts.Still any clarification ?

 

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[Guest guest]

Jai Ganesh

 

No disrespect to Sri Vijayîndra Tîrtha.

I come from different tradition than yours.

 

My question was Has Lord Veda Vyasa said anywhere to reject any puranas?

 

Jai Shree Krishna

[Guest guest]

NOT AT ALL.. he wrote the puranas to bring vedic literature at the perfection

[Guest guest]

I Believe the great scholars like "Sri Madhvacharya" & "Sri Vijayindra thirtha". If you cant believe their words, i cant help it. It seems that to answer your question, i have to goto time machine & bring veda vyasa back.

 

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[maadhav]

 

namaste vyAsa vishAla buddhe..

 

 

[Guest guest]

Om Shree Ganeshayanama

 

I read the conversation between Sri Vijayendra Tirtha and Linga Raja. I would like to mention that to measure the Gods and quote miniority than other is foolishness. Who is grater than who is not the subject of spiritualism but the major part is to know that all of them are equal, one and supreme. So instead of fulfill one's ego we have to realize to truth and the absolute truth is Lord Sriman Narayan and Lord SadaShiva both are one and we have to follow them like pure devotee.

 

Hare Krishna